User talk:Courcelles/Archive 50

RE: Orphaned non-free image File:Food rules book cover.jpg
is no longer orphaned, original article Food Rules changed to Food Rules: An Eater's Manual Petersam (talk) 09:28, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I've removed the tag, though a bot would have been around to do it within a few hours anyway. Courcelles 09:32, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Image deletion
Many thanks for your note. I'm not sure why User:Δ deleted File:Fangandclaw.jpg and File:Hellzapoppin movie.jpg. File:Fangandclaw.jpg is the Classics Illustrated edition of Fang and Claw (book) and File:Hellzapoppin movie.jpg is the movie poster for Hellzapoppin' (film). Could you or User:Δ restore the images? They are integral parts of the articles. Thank you. Schmausschmaus (talk) 12:15, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to re-add them to the articles in which they belong. However, I will not do so- as the person who readds them assumes personal responsibility for them meeting the WP:NFCC, a responsibility I am unwilling to assume.  Should you chose to do so, the deletion notices will be removed from the images by a bot, likely within a few hours. Courcelles 13:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Timothy Good
Say, you just deleted an article on a guy who wrote a dozen books on the topic of UFO's, including a couple that are quite well-known. Looks like two people voted in favor to delete. That's it? I must say I wonder at it, sir. I'm not saying I believe in what he writes, but I will say this act smacks of censorship, in my view. He is a noted Ufologist, no matter what a couple people on Wikipedia say. Thanks for any reconsideration you can give to this matter. Jusdafax  01:36, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * In a full fortnight, no one could be found to argue for keeping the article, while two did comment that it should go. I'll close almost any AFD as a delete under those conditions- I might have even done so without Melanie's !vote. If you want to work on it, I'd be happy to stick it in your userspace, though. Courcelles 03:33, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. With all due respect, due to current time constraints, Afd isn't something I have a ton of interest watching or dealing with at this stage of my Wiki-life.  I noticed this deletion due to having watchlisted the Ufologists list some time back when I was doing a study of them.  I noticed serveral deletions recently that seem agenda-driven, but they were people I'd not heard of.  Mr. Good however I had for quite a while, and indeed had read one of his dozen books that I had checked out of the local library.  My point is that if just any substantial author people don't agree with on an edgy topic can get deleted by two people and an admin because not enough attention is paid to Afd, then the process is broken.  This doesn't have anything to do with what one believes, it has to with what is notable... it is just common sense, as I see it.  Mr. Good as an author meets that benchmark, in my view, as the books have been on bestseller lists. One of the Afd commenters said they didn't find anything on him doing an internet search... must not have tried very hard.  Wkipedia is not improved by scrubbing this article, whatever the motivation by the original proposer, and it looks to me like someone with an agenda is taking it to ufologists. Again, thanks for any consideration you can give as an admin to looking into this a bit further. Jusdafax   11:56, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, as soon as midnight UTC gets here (so it'll go on the fresh log page), I'll undelete this and relist it. Note if there's no commentary in another week, the same exact result will happen again. Courcelles 23:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Of course, since I have raised the issue I will follow up at Afd.  I wouldn't trouble you with this one if it didn't strike me as pretty darn wrong, so I appreciate the consideration. By the way, does it seem like a long time ago that we were vandal fighters? 8D Best wishes, Jusdafax   05:13, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Vandal fighting? Now there's something that brings back memories... I haven't done anything along those lines in 7 months or so.  AIV is as busy as ever, though, and I show up ready to use my block button when I notice AIV atop my watchlist.  But for someone who passed RFA on the back of good vandal fighting, I've been remarkable deficient in doing any work in that area. Courcelles 09:36, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah and I still think of you as your old name, BJB... say, is Amazon a WP:RS? I confess mainstream sources for this guy are few and far between, and I stand corrected on how easy it would be to get decent sourcing for Mr. Good. But there is no doubt in my mind as to his notability, and I'll take another swing at it in the next day or two. Being able to use Amazon as a source would be a start. Again, he has written at least a dozen books and several of them we best sellers. Amazon says he was on their "top 100" list. Jusdafax   21:57, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Amazon? Not at the FA/FL/GA level, and I'll admit I don't pay much attention to what folks "get away with" below that seeing as how it would need to be completely redone eventually.  It really doesn't help with notability seeing as Amazon sells any old self-published crud. Courcelles 22:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. Back to google searches.  Mr. Good's best sellers appear to have been just before the computer age started, so the stuff I need isn't found online easily. If It's out there, I should get it soon. Jusdafax   22:36, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate message
Just a heads up, I think you'll find MFIreland‎ already received notice of that file due for deletion. RashersTierney (talk) 04:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, it was termporarily used, so the deletion notice was removed, and then it was removed again, s it has been freshly nominated for deletion. (Not that any of that is on my database report of unused non-free media, and there are hundreds a day, so this unfortunately is going to happen occasionally.) Courcelles 04:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It was a bit messy. Anyway, no worries. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 04:45, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Off topic, but while you're here, are you familiar with archiving Talk Pages? I tried at Talk:Sean Connery but couldn't get the 'search' to do what it was told, and had to give up for the moment. RashersTierney (talk) 04:51, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * This can be much simpler. let me delete Archive 1 and archive 2 that you created, and follow the instructions here to set this up automatically. Courcelles 05:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking the trouble. Much appreciated. RashersTierney (talk) 05:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * They're gone- archival bots work better if there aren't any manual archives to start with, and since you readded everything to the main page anyhow... if you add the template, it'll all be right when the bot runs tomorrow afternoon. Courcelles 05:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll give it a go after I've had a few hours sleep (probably half my trouble). Thanks again. RashersTierney (talk) 05:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

1936 Winter Olympics medals
Hi Courcelles. Just for your information, this edit was conducted by indef blocked user Tennis expert who pops in a couple of times a day on various IPs to waste his own time undoing some of my edits. Amazing that a qualified lawyer would actually feel the need to do this, but it's easy to track his edits and even easier to revert them en masse. So don't worry about FLRC at the '36 Winter Olympics list! Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:31, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay cool. Anytime you see massive revisions of my edits by an IP from Austin (or Pflugerville or Kyle) TX, it's fair to assume it's User:Tennis expert who now has nothing better to do than be purely disruptive.  I'd appreciate you reverting his actions.  And good news about the Olympics lists, I look forward to reviewing more of them.  The Rambling Man (talk) 19:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Mick Foley
Hi, you seem quite understanding of what article would or would not benefit from pending so do you think Mick Foley would benefit? It needs something as this addition from an IP was added and not removed for three days and then it was removed by another IP, thoughs? Feel free to suggest I ask at the noticeboard if you think it would be better, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 12:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * My general preference is for semi over PC, but we absolutely need something here, so let's see how PC works. Courcelles 19:38, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, lets see how it goes, needed something like you said, I will keep an eye on it, much appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 21:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Mothers Natures Kitchen.jpg
Hi, Got your message about this orphaned image page, thanks. Problem was that the image page was not referenced from the album page Mother Natures Kitchen, at least that's what I think. I've edited the album page to reference this image. Since the image page is covered under non-free use rationale for album/cd covers I think this page is OK now. Can you remove the "Orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files as of 9 January 2011" and "All orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files templates?" I don't seem to be able to edit the image page. Much appreciated. Ian Irae4dfc (talk) 19:09, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I did it for you this time, but there is a bot that would have done it, likely within just a couple hours. (Or you could have removed it yourself, it's not like an article speedy notice, these are true maintenance tags that can be removed when they are resolved.) Courcelles 19:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Irae4dfc (talk) 21:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Chaim Joshua Halberstam
Hi, I just came across this BLP lacking references in the ongoing referencing drive, and started working on it just as you were deleting it. Just wanted to let you know that the reason you couldn't find any reliable sources and only WP mirror sites was because you were looking under the wrong spelling. On the Jewish news pages which mention this rabbi, his name is spelled Chaim Yehoshua Halberstam. I went ahead and started a new page with references under that spelling. Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I've merged the histories under the correct spelling. Courcelles 00:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Sarah Palin article
Hello. Can you remove the swastika and the whole section it's in at the bottom of the SP article? Thanks. --Kenatipo (talk) 03:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The vandalism wasn't on Sarah Palin, rather it was on Template:Fox_News_personalities. I'll semi-protect the template. Courcelles 04:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You know more about it than I do.  (I forgot SP was a Fox contributor).  --Kenatipo (talk) 04:05, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Could I have fixed this myself by clicking on the small "e" in the v·d·e area on the left? --Kenatipo (talk) 04:16, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, you could have, with the e button. Courcelles 04:18, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * D'oh!!!!  (Thanks again)   --Kenatipo (talk) 04:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank You
Thanks, Courcelles! I really hadn't seen the RD2 thing in the edit summaries when I'd seen grossly offending material deleted previously (many times on many articles), and I blindly assumed that it was the equivalent of suppressing/oversighting. See, this is why I barely made it through school: I'm bad with homework :> When you granted me my Reviewer privs, I knew you were a "good egg", and I appreciate the clarification. Thanks again :> Doc talk  05:26, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, any admin can do RD2 and the like, and we often do so when requesting oversight, so things don't hang around for hours in Oversight's OTRS queue. (Or, in this case, RD2/RD3 cover a great deal more stuff than the suppression policy.) Only problem with revision delete is how noisy it is in watchlists :| Courcelles 06:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Unnecessary tagging of an orphaned non-free image
Hi, Courcelles. I noticed you recently File:Susana Martinez KOAT debate.png as being an orphaned non-free image, and then notified the uploader about it. Normally this would be a helpful thing to do, but since this particular image has been for a couple of days already, as noted by the  tag at the top of the file description page, I don't think it was especially helpful in this case. —Bkell (talk) 05:55, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, the FFD could close any which way, whereas with the current situation, an F5 deletion will still be necessary no matter how the !votes fall at FFD. I shouldn't have bothered the uploader, true, but the F5 tag did need to be applied. Courcelles 06:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see your point. I think, though, that this FFD is pretty WP:SNOWy—I don't see how anyone can make a valid argument that we need this non-free image of a living person who is a public figure, especially when we already have a free image of her. I was hoping to knock a little bit of clue into the uploader about WP:NFCC by listing it on FFD with a paragraph of explanation rather than just tagging it with, since he had already removed a "replaceable" tag from another of his uploaded images. Unfortunately he seems to still not get the point. —Bkell (talk) 06:20, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking at this talk page, one more bad upload, and I would be ready to drop the blockhammer on this guy for a few days, as the ultimate message to "get with the program". NFCC isn't something we can joke around about- if you don't understand it, you shouldn't be uploading files you didn't make yourself, and sometimes a block is the only way to get that across. Courcelles 06:23, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree. I think it would be a good idea to keep a close eye on SteveoJ here for the next few days, especially after this FFD expires with the outcome I expect. This will be the sixth non-free photo of Ms. Martinez he has uploaded since November which has subsequently been deleted as a copyright violation (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). I've left him two rather lengthy and personally written notes on his talk page about this. If he uploads a seventh copyvio I think we need to put a stop to it. —Bkell (talk) 06:33, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi again. I have tried to replace the non-free File:Susana Martinez KOAT debate.png with the free File:Susana Martinez Alamogordo 2010.jpg in the Susana Martinez infobox. SteveoJ has reverted that three times in the last few hours, saying the last time, "Until it is deleted it is the infobox photograph." To me WP:NFCC seems to be pretty clear that we shouldn't be using the non-free image when the free image is available. Is this worth pursuing, or should I just be patient and wait for the FFD on the non-free image to conclude? —Bkell (talk) 16:39, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Clear edit warring against non-free policy. Blocked for 24 hours. Courcelles 17:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

OK to delete File:Video_Library_logo_200px.jpg
I had uploaded with the intention of using it on the new article C-SPAN Video Library—until another editor came along and added a screen shot instead. It doesn't really make any sense to have two infobox images, so I'd say delete this. In the unlikely event I would find a suitable use for it, I could always upload it again. Thanks, WWB Too (talk) 14:50, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks for letting me know, G7'ed. Courcelles 15:38, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Many of which were tasks you created! I tell you, I never, ever thought this place required so much maintenance until I get a mop; thanks for the kind words. Courcelles 21:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Archimedes
Thanks for indefinitely semi-protecting Archimedes. For some reason he has always attracted a high standard of swearing.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 22:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Canadian insignia

 * (Deletion log); 16:25 . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) deleted "File:Navy sleeve Adm Can pre2010.png" (G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page (CSDH))
 * (diff | hist) . . User talk:Pdfpdf‎; 16:22 . . (-1,544) . . Pdfpdf (Talk | contribs) (Thanks. db-g7 - A free use .svg now exists) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Navy sleeve ASlt.png‎; 16:10 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Navy sleeve Cdr.png‎; 16:10 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Navy sleeve Lt(N).png‎; 16:10 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Navy sleeve SLt.png‎; 16:10 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]

Hi. Can you delete the others too, or do I need to individually put a db-g7 on all of them? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No need for tags- I've G7'ed those four. Thanks.  Courcelles 06:05, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That's good. Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:47, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

more
Hi again. All of these non-free images are now orphans because they have been replaced by free-use .svg images. What's the best way to deal with them? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:15, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * (diff | hist) . . File:Army sleeve Col.png‎; 14:48 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Army sleeve 2Lt.png‎; 14:48 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Air Force sleeve Maj.png‎; 14:46 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Air Force sleeve Lt.png‎; 14:45 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Air Force sleeve LCol.png‎; 14:45 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Air Force sleeve Col.png‎; 14:45 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Air Force sleeve Capt.png‎; 14:45 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * (diff | hist) . . File:Air Force sleeve 2Lt.png‎; 14:45 . . (+45) . . Courcelles (Talk | contribs) (This file is up for deletion per WP:CSD. (TW)) [rollback]
 * I G7'ed those for you. Courcelles 20:40, 11 January 2011 (UTC)