User talk:CovenantD/Comics Archives 1

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Hello - can I ask what your problem is? I am a new user on Wikipedia, having only been on a handful of times. I'm sure I don't know all the rules and I'm trying to learn, but it seems like you have been extremely rude to me for no reason. How about trying to give advice rather than being rude? That would be helpful. I'm sorry if you're upset that I did several edits to the same entry rather than including them all in one - again, I am learning this process. I'm sure you weren't perfect the first few times you were on here as well.

As for your warnings - what have I truly done wrong? I've gotten into a debate with lesker at the Justice League talk pages because his/her edits are wrong. But hey - if you people want wrong information up, that's fine. I tried to clean up the dialogue between he/she and I so that it didn't bog down the talk page, and I get slapped with a "no edit talk page" warning from you. A little consideration, a little "Welcome to wikipedia, here's how you do things...." from you would have been appropriate. Not the rude treatment you are giving. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs) 

Thanks for your response.

A couple of things though: (1) I removed the reference to Lesker as an "idiot" on the Justice League talk page right after I left it because I felt like that was over the top. So, I shouldn't be penalized for editing myself when I was already trying to do the right thing. (2) I understand that your warnings aren't personal...but at the same time, before you just start slapping things around right and left, could you not inquire as to why someone made a change? Supposedly this whole wikipedia thing is supposed to be a free exchange of ideas, but you are making it seem more like a prison, slapping warnings right and left instead of saying "hey, did you know you weren't supposed to do this..."? There is no encouragement to be part of the process this way.

Anyway - I'm not trying to engage you in an argument, but perhaps get you to see another point of view and realize that, as you constantly popped up on sites I was on, it appeared to be that you were stalking me and singling me out for a few mistakes as I'm trying to learn. Encouragement and questions rather than warnings and nastiness would be welcomed, and that would make wikipedia truly fulfill it's goals. No one wants the info in the entries to be wrong, but no one wants to work with tyrannical editors either (not saying you are one, but just making a point). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs) 

oh...and thanks for referring me to the items on your talk page regarding editing. I'll take a look at them. Thanks much. -

Sentry (comics)
May I ask what your justification is for keeping an obscure Spider-Man enemy (not even an obscure enemy by himself, but part of an obscure five-man team) at the top of this article, over the Paul Jenkins character (currently featured in New Avengers, and previously featured in his own series [of sorts], having received a huge [if unsuccessful] marketing push from Marvel)? Sorry I didn't log in to make that edit, but that's no reason to revert it without comment. -leigh (&#966;&#952;&#8057;&#947;&#947;&#959;&#962;) 23:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a reasonable enough policy (if strictly adhered to), but I don't see any mention of it on that page or the rest of the WikiProject. Can you be more specific? -leigh (&#966;&#952;&#8057;&#947;&#947;&#959;&#962;) 23:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

categories
You're quite rights, i wasn't sure what the deal with ordering them was so i'll do that from now on.Palendrom 04:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Grayson
Thanks for chiming in with your comment. I know I'm not the only one who feels that Grayson is better than Nightwing. I don't know how else to say 'it's not that he's not 'Nightwing' in most people's heads, it's that he's also Robin!' -- Ipstenu 14:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Harvey Bullock
While I realize that you are probably right, I must ask - what disadvantage did the move cause? Luis Dantas 07:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Titans
I can't remember exactly where the discussion was. However, I do think that a change that big should be discussed beforehand, specially since people accepted the previous move. --Andromeda 19:33, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Wonder Woman
I reverted twice (check the edit history) the bolland pic was reverted three times, go chew out DBrat! Qilinmon 01:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

JLU
Yeah. But always consider context. I'm complaining that there has been a lot writting but no editing, and that's easy to realize. It was just bad motivational speech. Don't be so touchy.--T-man, the wise 19:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

So you know what a wikiproject is? I turned it into one, not the zetaguy. You want it to be one. It doesn't bother me that much as I thing it's going to bother the others thas like to talk about works they don't even contribute with, since they don't like it as an article, I think as a whole project it's going to be 10 times worst. If you're so confident in the merger, stop arguing and edit a little to prepare the article for it. You won't be able to just stuff all that into another article. And don't put words in my mouth I can speak for myself... Well kinda :P--T-man, the wise 22:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Dagger
Thanks for letting me know. - Rudykog 06:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Comic Categories
Sorry if I am causing you trouble, I am just attempting to create some interesting new ones. I will make any needed changes myself, what do you think should be changed? I am monitoring your contributions to try and figure it out, it seems you are busy also doing things besides me, you are an active upkeeper of comics.

If you mean Bat Boy, I guess not, but it's a pretty obvious reference to me, as opposed to 'Bat Mutant' or 'Boy Bat'. After all, there is already Batgirl.

If you mean Bartman, I do agree for a disambig page. I was at a loss at what to do, to tell you the truth. It just links to a subsection of Bart Simpson, and I can't class the whole character as Batman-inspired. I am thinking perhaps to link the disambig to a redirect page titled Tyciol 06:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * In the case of speedsters, you're right in that fictional isn't really necessary. I suppose' speedsters' might have sufficed. The problem is, it's also a type of car, so I'd hope this would make it more distinctive. I thought about 'speedy heroes' but that would exclude a lot of villains, and they all belong in one category. What characterizes it is a character who is capable of running at extremely large landspeeds, independant and preferably without the ability of flight. Superman and Wonderwoman do have this distinctive trait despite flight, but even then I'm having difficulty getting it there. I may just revise it to characters whose main trait is their speed. There's still a great deal of them. For the most part, their name incorporates it. Others have shown some interest too, a bunch have been added to speedsters without me, like Cheetor. Tyciol 06:41, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Your comment
Have you thought that perhaps I just happened to change my mind about the edit? Or that there are several other valid reasons for that? There's not need to be sarcastic. I'm not telling you how to edit pages, I expect the same courtesy. --Andromeda 21:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Shadowcat
hey, i tried to add a source for that info that you tagged as "citation needed". I'm not sure i did it correctly, so it'd probably be worth taking a look. Amo 17:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

May, 2006
Gidday. Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked and has been reverted. However, it was also deemed distructive and, as such, falls under the category of vandalism. Please don't remove content from Wikipedia as you did to the article Kal-L. Instead, please try in the future to make constructive edits rather than ruining the hard work of others. Regards, ACS (Wikipedian) 02:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Jim Corrigan
I noted on your user page that you want to work on the Jim Corrigan page. Considering I'm that page's creator and major contributer, I'm interested in what you were planning to contribute, and perhaps we could work together on this. Kusonaga 16:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the compliment, Covenant. You've been doing some really good work yourself. If I ever need help with anything, I won't hesitate to call. Kusonaga 18:04, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Summary Style
Check Summary style, it was also done on Superman. And it got awarded. I had this project for a while, I even tryied to discuss it early on the discussion page. Besides I'm getting rid of the tags claiming that the article lacks organization for once.--T-man, the wise 04:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right it WAS a featured article. Because I got no answer I did it. That's lack of interest, if it were a bat idea somebody would have said don't do it. Again, check the Superman article. We're trying to keep a format. The negative tag was arond the characters section. --T-man, the wise 05:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry, I't wasn't my intention to make my comment PA like. I read too many Mr. T jokes on the net.--T-man, the wise 01:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

What do you propose?
Eventually Wikipedia is going to include every single piece of information about everything. I hate when people slow the process, saying that this or that don't deserve space.--T-man, the wise 01:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Why does it pisses people of? do they want to know LESS?? And have huge trivia articles?

Thanks! And the more the merrier. My vision is still lacking of several elements, whatever you can aport will be apreciated. I'm buiding something, but many aspects can be logically out of my sight.

I'm changing artickes that I see as lacking of concept. They're becoming disambiguations. Bluring the line between directories, lists, and files or vice versa. I'm trying to find the trunk and then the branches and roots. There should be a series of articles about aspects of batman and a main one defining Batman, I think the article is trying to cover it all and comming short.--T-man, the wise 02:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Batwoman
No is problem :) -- Ipstenu 16:18, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

List of comic....
Heya, thanks for the offer. Right now I'm going through every link, making sure they all point appropriately to the final page of a true comic book hero.

One thing that's kind of a pain (but needs to be done) is fixing all the links here, below the "List of powers in superhero fiction (redirect page)" line.

I don't have much more time to edit tonight, but I'll get what I can done :) Thanks! -- Kickstart70 - T - C 01:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * no problem, I didn't want to do those either :) -- Kickstart70 - T - C 01:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sonic scream to physical, eh?
I moved it out of there since it's really a type of energy. I won't argue about the change, but I'm curious about the rationale. :) -- Kickstart70 - T - C 05:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * How about pyrokinesis, etc. My thought is to split it between propelled energy of any type (sound, fire, electrical, etc.) in Energy, and then propelled physical (super strength, throwing ice, or anything else that's actually left behind in physical form) in Physical. -- Kickstart70 - T - C 05:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

My goodness, thank you!
I was a bit taken aback by User:71.115.236.171, and when I ventured to his Talk page, I saw your comment to him. That was wonderfully nice of you. Best regards, -- Tenebrae 23:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * And I do apologize for that, but he kept erasing my info without even talking with me about it, like I said, he could have retitled my contribution. Not to sound rude CovenantD, but did you at least consult with him about erasing that info constantly? :71.115.236.171


 * Thanks again, CD. I'm usually pretty good about talking things out on Discussion pages. I just hadn't thought this particular edit was anything controversial, but, as they say, live and learn. It was really thoughtful of you to step in and help make nice in such an easygoing and evenhanded way. -- Tenebrae 14:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

T-man
It's alright, but I do like to keep track when he make personal attacks, as it is important he abide by the terms of his mentorship and probation.-- Shanel § 05:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

My oops
Marysunshine and I were making edits simultaneously, and I inadvertently overwrote hers. When I saw she'd used a later edit than mine, I went to reinsert her edit, but you'd beaten me to it! So, my oops, and I'm glad you made the fix that I was trying to. Great minds think alike :- ) -- Tenebrae 17:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Vox
Thanks. --DrBat 02:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Amos Fortune
Thanks for your help with Amos Fortune. I didn't know if it merited a disambiguation page. Should I delete the reference to Amos Fortune of Jaffrey in the DC comics entry? Gutbloom 01:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Re Anti Heroes cat from Steve Block's page
Hiyas. In my opinion, its speedyable under G4 - recreation of deleted content. Categories are hard to quantify in this sense since we'd have to check the articles themselves to see if it was re-added to them...but considering we had a pretty definitive May 13 CFD, I'd be willing to apply it. I'm kind of busy atm, but if Steve doesn't get back to you in a day or two let me know and I'll work on emptying it again and deleting it (as the actual deleter of the previous incarnation). Syrthiss 13:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * As it goes, I speedied it myself. I'm going to work up a template for protecting such categories to prevent recreation, but I'm not sure what happens if you place an article in a protected category, someone might have to set up a bot to patrol and remove pages in such categories. Steve block Talk 20:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Re Features of the Marvel Universe
As you can see here, you corrected the spelling of a name. It was correct in the first place. If this was done by a bot, could you tweak it to recognize Mar-Vell as a proper name? CovenantD 14:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * My mistake, didn't see that it was a name Rjwilmsi 15:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Powerpuff Girls
You agree with the IP who says he is Ace Class Shadow?? This IP is also connected with changing the full name of Lisa Simpson to "Elisabeth Marie "Lisa" Simpson". And now you agree with thinking the Powerpuff Girls characters "Amoeba Boys" and "Major Man" are villains? He hasn't provided a reasonable explanation for his edits. Many sources say they are villains, but in fact they are not and do not fit the criteria to be villains, for the reasons I have said on the talk page. Please reconsider. Best. Marcus 18:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

x
Which one did you mean?--T-man, the wise 18:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Are your glasses betraying you, it did read that month ago. As I said, I know what I'm doing. Your useless observation from Wikipeda is talkin about a specific case, not any kind of removing. I sugest you practice your reading, you have troubles getting what lines imply (your undestanding of my gay comments also came very short, I never expected it to be so poor). I'm telling you, whether you go deep into Wikipedia's definition or you just use your common sense, that's not vandalism. Vandalism is mindless by definition. Any try to improve something doesn't qualify as such. Now, plase, quit wasting my time. I know you like to chat a lot but I'm trying to improve an article. Go talk with other people who like to chat and critizise instead. Sorry if I'm to hard on you, but realize that this is like the 6th time I reply to you and you keep going. Also stop reading comment's I deleted from my talk page, it's disrespectful. That page is mine to organize it, I don't need any concensus for that. Please, don't reply anymore. I'm ok if you don't agree.--T-man, the wise 19:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It's not worth fighting over. He is right in that a content dispute is not vandalism. It could also be considered poor form to use a templated warning on an established user. It is also proper form for him to remove discussion, but he allowed to.-- Shanel § 20:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you're right -- I should have just typed out the problem, instead of using the tag. I was hoping that the warning template graphic would grab his attention, since he was ignoring objections on the page itself -- but that was pointless, because this particular tag didn't use a graphic.  Ooops.  At anyrate, I'm not sure what the problem is.  I don't know what his conflict with Dyslexic agnostic is, but he seems to want to drag  CovenantD and myself into the issue simply because we agreed with DA independently. ~CS 20:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Movie Rogue's Powers
You said: Rogue's power is to absorb other mutant's powers - Colossus didn't transform her, she transformed herself. That is speculation. Rogue can't just touch and absorb without draining a person (as demonstrated very well in X2 with Iceman & Pyro). The moment she touches they immediately started going weak and were drained. That didn't happen with Colossus. He armored himself first, then armored Rogue.


 * Then we obviously have a difference of opinion. We don't know that Rogue would effect an armored-up Colossus the moment she touches him, and we've seen that it takes prolonged contact to harm another person. We're both speculating here, but the difference is that I'm not trying to include mine as fact. You'll have to provide better evidence than your own thinking on this one. CovenantD 16:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


 * After re-examining the footage (from the 7 min trailer) I'm inclined to change my opinion. It shows Colossus laying his unarmored hand on Rogue's head (something I didn't notice before) and thus we have physical contact.  So you are right.  Dstorres


 * I understand how you could think that. When I saw the movie, I had a split-second of "How did he do that?" until I realized it was Rogue that he protected. CovenantD 16:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It was more my mind playing tricks on me. I thought I saw him grab both her arms/shoulders, and it wasn't until closers observation that I saw his hand on her head.  Again, my bad. Dstorres

T-Man gone wild
CovenantD, I have left a message on Shanel's page to do something about T-Man, see here: [] Dyslexic agnostic 05:55, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Green Lantern/Sinestro
Not sure what edit I made recently to Green Lantern, but I will look at Sinestro. --Chris Griswold 07:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Invader Zim image
Hey, It's Philip. Could you check out Image: CareerDay02.jpg. Someone is challenging the fair use of the image and I'm not sure why he's chosen only this one image to do it to out of all the images I've posted. I checked out his talk page and he concedes to making "controversial" edits, so... I'm not even sure what to do to respond to this. I can't even figure out how to delete the image. I wrote the article but haven't finished picking the images and I uploaded that one prematurely. Help! Btw, sign on to Fire.

X Men Last Stand
Hi - I'm curious - why did you revert my X-Men edit? Thanks, --Oscarthecat 21:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. However, this article  indicates that dates should be linked, in order for wikipedia to present the date in the format suitable for the user's location, as it presents in the user preferred format (within user preferences). --Oscarthecat[[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|]] 22:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

LGBT
Hi Covenant, can you do me a favor and vote for this merger here --Basique 00:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Categories
Thanks for keeping up on the category proliferation. I see "Marvel Comics mutates" is back. Was that officially deleted, or did I misinterpret the Comics Project posts? Oy! Keep up the good work. -- Tenebrae 03:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sometimes fanboys can just get too enthusiastic :-) I don't remember Fictional mutates being deleted, but I'm all in favor of it going away after this latest round of additions. Everybody who's every undergone a superpowered change qualifies at this point. I do have to disagree with the LGBT comics characters though - I think there's enough entries to justify spliting them. When you add the two there's almost 200 entries, about the point I start thinking about splitting anyway. CovenantD 03:47, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

MrBigB
I'm not sure how many reverts I've done on the Thanos article, but I thought I'd let you know I'm going to leave it alone now and let an admin deal with Big, who has definitely reverted more than three times but who now seems to be doing it anonymously in order to avoid the 3RR. Consensus seems to be against his additions, but I'll leave it up to you. Biff Loman 01:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)