User talk:Cowdy001/Archive 2

This is an archive of my discussion page for the year 2015. Please leave new messages on the current talk page. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 09:10, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

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Rabbit Island (South Australia)
Hi Cowdy001, I wanted to congratulate you on all your work adding SOuth Australian islands to Wikipedia. I just created a stub for Rabbit Island (South Australia), which I'd like to ask for your assistance with. The reason I'm making the request is, I'm unsure as to how to address the problem of the existence of multiple islands called Rabbit Island, within SA waters. Take a look at the page- you'll see I've created a section called Disambiguation where I point to the other Rabbit island and islet occurrences. Danimations (talk) 05:05, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi again, I've done as you suggested and expanded Rabbit Island to include an Australia section. You may wish to add any other Rabbit Islands that you know of- I only found 10 in a short search. The Disambiguation section has also been removed from Rabbit Island (South Australia). Danimations (talk) 08:23, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

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Indian Ocean
You look likea recent editor when you do that for the bight. Some years ago now there were endless edit wars putting Victorian seaside places in the Indian Ocean. You will find that most Western Australain government departments have Cape Leeuwin in Western Australia at the point where the Southern Ocean starts. However there are endless circular arguments in relation to whether ratifications of IMO and others are the clearcut definitions they are made out to be - some feirce eds have even claimed the southern doesnt even exist. I would leave it to you - almost all published items I ever have come across from my regular crossings of the nullarbor some years ago say that I was looking out at the southern ocean, not the Indian. But as I say will leave it to you, but be warned. cheers User:JarrahTree 06:39, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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Point Lowly North
Hi Cowdy001, I just wanted to say thanks for your recent work on localities of Whyalla. When you come to adding Point Lowly North, I'll encourage a diver friend who has photographs of creatures in the marina there to contribute some images. --Danimations (talk) 02:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hey Cowdy, my name is am writing to you for an enquiry regarding the world firefighters games specifically 2006. I have a silver divers watch the make is Rescuer, and on the back it has the hong kong and China 2006 world firefighter games on the back. Now it's a beautiful and heavy watch but I just can't find anything about it? Just wondering if you do or point me in the right direction? Many thanks
 * Hi McAuley2010, Firstly, the username is cowdy001. Secondly, I do not know anything about "world firefighters games specifically 2006" or about divers watches. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 20:57, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

LGA question
Hey, thanks for adding to the tags to the early LGA articles I created. You seem to have a bit of a knack for making sense of South Australia's unusually complicated gazettal arrangements for places and such, and I was wondering if there's any chance you might be able to help me.

The sources I've discovered online, plus Trove, make any LGA that was out of existence before 1923 a piece of cake to cover from my computer. Given a few weeks, I'm going to hit up the State Library and look up some of the recommendations of book sources I've seen after that, but I'm not sure how much luck I'll have.

The problem I see coming up is that I can fill in all these early blanks, but when it comes to some of the big holes in the region I'm currently working on - Port Adelaide and Woodville being the two obvious ones there - these are beyond any source I can get my hands on right now. They clearly need to be broken out from their 1990s-era super-municipalities so we can tell the full history before they got merged, but I'm not sure of how to source exactly what type of LGA they were at what time - most states just had shires, towns and cities, but SA has a whole lot of them that were never terribly consistent and I'm getting a bit stuck on how to trace the histories of the longer-lasting councils. Any ideas? The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 16:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi talk, I will get back to you with some comments as soon as possible. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 22:51, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Reply placed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Drover%27s_Wife#LGA_question. 00:58, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! That is phenomenally helpful and way more than I expected! I am not in SA so don't have access to SA archival records, but most relevant books should be in the WA State Library collection, and I think with the links you gave me (especially #2 and #3) I should be able to piece together many more of the councils.


 * I think an overhaul of Local government areas of South Australia would be a great idea. It might be an idea to split it into List of local government areas in South Australia and Local government in South Australia so as to keep the current content while explaining the broader history and context. I had noticed the discussion on that talk page and intended on using it as a point of reference, but didn't chip in as it seems to have been inactive for a very long time. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 02:32, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Map images?
Cowdy001, thank you for your thank you on Wakefield Regional Council. The image (based on screenshotting maps.sa.gov.au/plb) has been and now I'm in doubt about the eligibility of such images. Do you have any additional knowledge about this? Thanks. Donama (talk) 23:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Donama, The content of the Property LocationBrowser website appears to be subject to copyright with the owner being the Government of South Australia - this is stated on the printout of the report of any record for a feature such as "bounded locality". An alternative is to source content from the NatureMaps website where the content is described in the home page as being: "With the exception of the Piping Shrike emblem, images, and other material or devices protected by a trademark and subject to review by the Government of South Australia at all times, the content of this website is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 Licence. All other rights are reserved. © Crown in right of the State of South Australia | Last updated: 16 November 2015". Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 06:03, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Re: Template:Northern Areas Council localities

 * Hi Donama, I have the following comments re your edit of the above article which I recently created. The list of localities/suburbs (not called "towns" anymore) was compiled by looking at both Nature Maps and Location Browser (PLB). Both NatureMaps and PLB show Appila to be located within both the District Council of Mount Remarkable and Northern Areas Council areas.  You replicate this result by doing the following in NatureMaps - select layers for "Administrative Boundaries">"Admistrative">"LGAs" and "Suburbs" and the following in PLB - doing a search for "Appila, LOCB", then click map icon and open "suburbs and localities" sub-menu where "show on screen" needs to be clicked and then zoom out to where LGA boundaries are clearly visible.  The "Property Location Browser Report" for Appila (prepared by searching for "Appila (LOCB)" and clicking the map marker and opening the "Place Names (Gazetteer)" sub-menu and selecting/saving as a PDF) states the following:"Town surveyed in August 1872. Originally proclaimed as Yarrowie on 5/10/1872 and altered to Appila in Nomenclature Committee's Second Report dated 7/11/1916. Alteration agreed to by DC Port Germein on 28/10/1940 and formalised 20/2/1941.  Boundaries created in March 1997 for the portion within DC Mount Remarkable. Portion  added for area within Northern Areas Council in April 2001. Portions of Caltowie North, Hornsdale and Tarcowie excluded and added to Appila in November 2008. Incorporates the Government Town of Appila."  The bolded sentence above in my view supports what I found graphically on both NatureMaps and PLB.  Materials such as maps published by the Northern Areas Council do not include Appila while the Council's Development Plan shows Appila as being within its jurisdiction on pages 10,153, 154 and 244, i.e. the locality name either overlaps the LGA boundary or is within the LGA boundary.  Please reply here.  Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 01:21, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Cowdy. I happily accept your research into this. I did check in the PLB but checked the town boundary instead of the suburb boundary. My bad. Please reverse my edit if you didn't already. I think though that the use of the NAC template on the Appila article is probably unnecessary still. Donama (talk) 02:50, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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List of parks and gardens in rural South Australia
I removed this because I don't get why it's in these articles - what does this have to do with the Regional Council of Goyder? It's just like linking it in every random locality article. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 23:23, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I came to ask much the same question. There is no reason given for the inclusion of this link as a "see also" from so many LGA articles. The Parks and Gardens article uses LGA web sites as references, but the lists are not necessarily complete, and not something I can imagine wanting to read if I'm looking at a local government article. --Scott Davis Talk 03:22, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi The Drovers Wife, The article is a list of open spaces managed by local government areas located outside of Adelaide. The Wikipedia Manual of Style (MOS) states the following - “The links in the "See also" section might be only indirectly related to the topic of the article because one purpose of "See also" links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics” (please refer | "See also" section.  My reading of the above suggests to me that it is OK to a link to this article on the Regional Council of Goyder and other articles.  The MOS also suggests the provision of “a brief annotation when a link's relevance is not immediately apparent”.  I have not done this but I think this could be done as either as a note (i.e. “-contains list of parks and gardens managed by the District Council of Goyder”) or as a link via an upgrade of the existing link such as one of the following - List of parks and gardens in rural South Australia or List of parks and gardens in the regional Council of Goyder.  Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 21:19, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Scott Davis, in addition to the comments above in the response to The Drover's Wife, I have the following comment. The most of the lists are complete as per what can be found on the LGA websites that were used as sources at the time of viewing.  Incomplete content has been tagged (i.e. “expand section” and “citation needed”) of which some were added as of today to the some of content that was recycled from the List of Adelaide parks and gardens article but not unedited by me.  Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 21:19, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Wirrina Cove prospective article
Hi Cowdy001, I wanted to ask you if you'd be interested in creating an article for Wirrina Cove? If you are, I'll be happy to contribute to it, though my knowledge of the area is limited. I do have a couple of photos of the spot from a recent visit which could help illustrate such an article, mind you. Oh, and there are many articles on Trove regarding development there, starting with this one: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/190089759 --Danimations (talk) 06:24, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Danimations, Apologies for the delay in replying as I am busy with other stuff. I will have a think about your request.  At the moment, if I decide to do it, I will not be able to do it until next month.  Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

No rush, Cowdy001... the photograph is there and the article will manifest one way or the other. I may create a stub in the mean time that you may wish to expand upon. --Danimations (talk) 22:25, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Wirrina photograph
Here's the image, should you decide to create an article for Wirrina Cove. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wirrina_Cove_marina,_South_Australia_2015.jpg --Danimations (talk) 06:52, 7 December 2015 (UTC)