User talk:Crash Underride/Archive/July 2008



All I ask is the following:
 * No Irish jokes please. [[Image:Flag of Ireland.svg|30px]]
 * No redneck/southern jokes. [[Image:Battle flag of the Confederate States of America.svg|30px]]

Every few months I will archive my talk page and you can go here to see what has bee talked about, etc.

RE: Wdefcon trek style.
All you need to do is create the template with all the variables in a userpage subpage, for you, it would be User:Crash Underride/Wdefcon. You can follow my example here. When you are done, just add it to the gallery page. Feel free to contact me if you need any more help! -- FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 02:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. What my idea is, is to make it shorter, remove the image on the side. Make the whole thing change color. And to also make it longer with rounded corners. Kinda like a section of the alert lights on Voyager. I don't know if that will help any. lol.  Cra sh U  nderride  02:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I could do it, but I don't really have the time. However, my template does change color, and the image can be removed quickly enough.  However, you will have to actually make it.  -- FastLizard4  (Talk•Index•Sign) 05:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I figured as much. Let's see if I can give you a better visual. About as long as your's, however with rounded corners, and the whole thing will change colors, with the text over top of the color, with it just sayin' the condition or alert next too it. Does that help with a better visual? lol The only reason that I'm tryin' to give you a visual is because I'm not that good with syntax.  Cra sh U  nderride  14:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Like I said, I simply do not have the time to really create a new one now. I am learning three different programming languages, I admin for four wikis, and I admin/develop the ACC tool.  I might be able to find some time in a few weeks or so, if you are willing to wait.  -- FastLizard4  (Talk•Index•Sign) 02:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I can. I can peddle around and see what, what all I do does. Until then.  Cra sh U  nderride  03:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Arena Football
Hi, I could help you with adding all of the categories and such to the players page, but I'm not too fluent in all the wikipedia things regarding assessing articles and such, and mainly the only thing I've done for the AFL pages in the last few months is update all of the season articles for each team with results from each week. That's pretty much all I'm good for on wikipedia, just adding facts, lol. Unfortunately though, for the next few days I'm working from afternoons until 9pm EST, and my one day off from now until Thursday I'm attending a Tampa Bay Rays game, so I'm not sure I can be of much help for the next few days since I'll have only a few hours of time on a computer during the night... Tampabay721 (talk) 05:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey there. I just wanted to take a bit of time to welcome you to the Arena Football Wikiproject. There hasn't been much activity there recently, and as much as I'd like to help, I don't have the time to do everything. While the whole of arena football needs work, I particularly concern myself with af2, since those articles tend to get badly neglected. I have at least gotten the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pioneers article into better shape than it had been and added pages for each of the team's seasons (the Pioneers are, of course, my favorite af2 team, hence the special attention from me). I look forward to your future help and input with the project. Feel free to leave me a message on my userpage if you need help, advice, or opinions on anything. WeatherManNX01 (talk) 23:22, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I'm the only one I know with any form of interest in the AFL. I'd love to see all of the articles expanded and fixed up, but I only have limited time and interest. I like watching the AFL on TV and stuff, but until they expand into Boston, I have no vested interest in anything in particular. I'm more into the af2 and the Pioneers, so I keep up more with the happenings in that league. That and the fact that I absolutely hate doing research and writing stuff - it's all college's fault. ;) Anyway, yeah, it seems it's pretty much you and I on the AFL. Let's knock their socks off. WeatherManNX01 (talk) 19:47, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

AFL infobox
I was checking it out today (the John Syptak article had a stray character because of it, BTW), and I just was wondering what exactly is different about it. Currently, Template:Infobox gridiron football player can handle both NFL and CFL players; I'm sure if you asked User:Chrisjnelson or someone else who knows it well to implement the AFL parts into it, they'd be glad to. Also, I noticed that you were adding Category:National Football League players onto players' articles; generally, the team player category suffices. The articles you cat'd with that are the only player articles in that cat, in fact. Thanks!  Pats 1  T / C  23:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, when adding cats, you usually don't add a space after the Category: .  Pats 1  T / C  00:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Pats1 is right, I don't have any problem adding anything to the NFLactive infobox to make it completely AFL compatible. While it may have NFL in the name, I always intended it to be usable for players in any league. If you think there is something it's needing to make it this way, let me know and we'll add it. We can definitely work on having the NFL debut thing replaced with an AFL debut one for current AFL players. That way we don't have to have two infoboxes.► Chris Nelson Holla! 05:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * First of all, Crash, take a deep breath. You sounded pretty damn angry in your response. Secondly, yes, there was a stray character (a "<" that was underneath the template and would show up above the rest of the article's text; I've taken care of that. Thirdly, the gridiron football person (read: not NFL-only; there is no such template) infobox can be modified very easily for it says AFL debut when it's an AFL player, CFL when it's a CFL, etc. Just ask Chris. So finally, I suggest that you do talk with Chris, because holding some grudge (unbeknown to me) is just silly. Also, the reason I changed it from Defensive Linemen to Defensive end is because when you put a position into this infobox, you put it as the article is links to. The correct article title is Defensive lineman (since "lineman" isn't a proper noun).  Pats 1  T / C  13:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Why have two? Because it's unnecessary if one can house all the info...► Chris Nelson Holla! 15:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well it's not something I'm going to fight anyone on. It's just not something that ever occurred to me or seemed necessary, and when I thought up the infobox (Jmfangio created but it was my idea) I always intended it to work for every league. So, when it comes to a player like Harrell, you shouldn't think of him having an "NFL infobox" because it's not supposed to be that. However, I will admit that it does have some aspects that hinder its use for other leagues currently. Though I would be willing to work on that, since like I said I always wanted it to work for any league. But like I said, it really doesn't matter to me all that much.► Chris Nelson Holla! 16:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

AFL player cats
Hi. It's a matter of correct filing procedures. Categorization. You place the article in the team players category which is itself in the AFL players category, which is in Players of American football category, which is in Sportspeople cat, which is in people cat. You simply put the article in the most precise cat and it naturally falls under all its parent categories as well. Cheers! Double Blue (Talk) 07:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Mandy Lion
Ok- they were just three quick suggestions, but I'll try and expand on them.
 * 1) At the moment, the only citations are to Blabbermouth- a variety of reliable sources should be cited. Has the subject ever been interviewed? Any articles discussing them in music magazines? Were they discussed in reviews? Have you checked Allmusic? Citing reliable sources is very important, but a good encyclopedia article draws from many sources.
 * 2) Citation templates format your references in a more standard way- for instance, this page (first result on Google News) is a news item, so it would use the news citation template. Other common ones are for books and general web pages. Anyway, the filled up news template looks like this-
 * 3) In the prose, when there is not an article for an album, you link to the Allmusic entry for the album. This looks rather unprofessional, and so I would remove them and just not link to anything (or perhaps write an article for the album, if it's notable). However, the pages you're linking to could be useful as sources, as Allmusic is very much a reliable source.

Hope that clarifies my advice, feel free to message me on my talk page if I can be of any help. J Milburn (talk) 16:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a quick mention of things he has spoken out about (along with citations to the YouTube videos or blog posts) may be appropriate, but I wouldn't talk about it too much unless some third party sources (such as in magazines- perhaps interviews) have mentioned it. J Milburn (talk) 16:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Soul Bomb
If you want help with the article from the wikiproject rock music or alternative music nominate it on the Collaboration of the Week! page. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 19:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes you can on the Rock music project, don't know about the alternative music project. Its so few nominations any way so, just go and nominate it okay.

AFL
I understand that, I just don't like presidents, cuz then someone has more authority than another,. What i rather would do is a few other things, see the talk page for my proposals.   Less Than  Clippers   00:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter
Frankly, the easiest way to create a newsletter is to shamelessly copy the design and structure of someone else's. That's what I did when I was creating the college football newsletter -- it's an almost direct copy of the Wikiproject Military History one, right down to the way the thing is distributed. From your Wikiproject's main page, simply set it up like I've got the college football newsletter, changing things as needed. For distribution, talk to someone who runs a bot that distributes other newsletters. I use BrownBot ... other people use other bots. Ask around. JKBrooks85 (talk) 09:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just add the subdirectory in the address bar and create a new page. If you're at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JKBrooks85, just tack on /newsletter and it will prompt you to create a new page. JKBrooks85 (talk) 19:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just copy the newsletter structure that I use, changing references to college football to whatever you need. It's okay to copy the code directly. JKBrooks85 (talk) 19:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you're talking about ... just navigate to the college football newsletter page (Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Newsletter), click on one of the archived newsletters, and copy the format from there. JKBrooks85 (talk) 19:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you don't think you'll have enough high-rank articles, you may want to take that section out and just list them in the regular portion of the newsletter. JKBrooks85 (talk) 22:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. I see you've copied the wrestling style. That works well. If you feel like you're overwhelmed, don't hesitate to drop a section or two. I'd also shy away from concrete deadlines, since life happens and you may not be able to get things done on time. It's not a time-sensitive thing, anyway. But keep up the good work! Looks great. JKBrooks85 (talk) 22:53, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe that different newsletters have different requirements based on the bot that's been set up to deliver them. What works for us may not work for you. When you arrange to have someone deliver the newsletter, ask them what they need from you. That's the best advice I can give. JKBrooks85 (talk) 21:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

newsletter
Good idea, and i love WP:PW's newsletter and project pages. We also need to start workign on what tasks are most important. I would like to copy the wrestling project's project pages.   Less Than  Clippers   21:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Madden Curse
As someone who edits Madden/NFL related articles, I thought you might have an opinion towards merging the Madden Curse article into the Madden NFL. The discussion can be found here: Thanks. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  21:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

AFL Stories
Yeah, I figured that copying and pasting was against some policy or guideline or something. Thanks for telling me though. I suppose all these new and improved AFL team articles will start next season since we only have one game left in the current one? Tampabay721 (talk) 02:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Infobox user 2
Hi,

Unfortunately I've never looked into how to make infoboxen collapsible - it's a problem I've run into myself. The best place to ask would be on template talk:infobox - the folks watching that page know the template syntax inside out and should be more useful to you. Hope that helps. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 21:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Spaces in Infoboxes
Can you please not put those spaces in the infobox, they are unnecessary and kind of confusing--Yankees10 20:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Crash Underride/Major edits
User:Crash Underride/Major edits, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Crash Underride/Major edits and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Crash Underride/Major edits during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.  Cra sh  Underride  21:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)