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Pitt national championships
The line removed that stated that it should be noted that the champions were named retroscpectively or claimed by other schools is true to some extent, but not all non-AP titles and this line served to do nothing more than demean Pitt's exisiting 9 titles. It is not really noteworthy due to the fact there are many shared titles and none of them, even today's, are official because the NCAA does not recognize or reward national titles in Division 1A football. In fact, internet research of football from those years, including the Pitt digital archive, shows that Pitt was recognized as the best in the nation during many of those years despite there not being a yearly National Championship awarding body (such as the AP and UPI became). So, Pitt's claim may come from retrospective sources compiled by a 1970 Sports Illustrated study, but it was considered the best team in the nation during those years (with the exception of 1934 which could easily be swapped for the non-Pitt-claimed but generally recognized title of 1910 to maintain a total of 9 championship seasons.). See this page and the discussion behind it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitt_Panthers

The other line removed, that Pitt claims titles from other sources like the 80 and 81 computer polls, is simply not true. Pitt makes no claims to those titles.

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Thanks for the pictures
Thanks for the good work on behalf of Pitt and and Oakland and Pittsburgh taking pictures of campus buildings and uploading chancellor portraits, etc. They help the articles immensely.Rudowsky 01:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:University of Pittsburgh
Hi. I've responded on the Talk page. --Dynaflow  babble  05:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Hail to Pitt
Thanks for educating me about school fight songs. I wasn't aware that there were so many articles about them. In my several months of patrolling, this is the first time I have seen a fight song article. You are correct. There is sufficient precedent and my tagging it for delete was in error. I apologize. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 03:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Pitt
For some reason I thought they rid themselves of "Pitt" a few years ago. I was wrong, sorry about the edits to those pages. -UWMSports (talk) 04:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Barco Law Building
I guess I always assumed it was concrete, but come to think of it I guess I'm not entirely sure. I've removed the offending clause from the article, keeping only the part about it being an example of Brutalist architecture, which it certainly is. Thanks for keeping me on my toes!MarritzN (talk) 17:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Pitt football seasons
I'm currently working on redoing the season by season results from the Pitt football article. I'm working on it in my sandbox, hoping to move it into the mainspace after completion. Perhaps you could check it out here and let me know what you think. P.S. - Big East champs feels soooo good! Thanks!  Grsz  ' 11 ' 03:26, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If the highest ranks were reliable, I would have no problem putting them in. There just seemed so little that I wasn't sure if it was accurate. As for the titles, as you can see, I just went with the one's that the other guy had there, I think they were just the one's Pitt claims. I initially thought I would differentiate between different sources that gave Pitt the championship, but realized I had no clue what some of them were (Montgomery, Libby, etc.) I made sure to note which were consensus, but other than that, I really didn't know what to use.  Grsz  ' 11 ' 17:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Let me know what you think now that I've incorporated more championships, as well as both ranks.  Grsz  ' 11 ' 01:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Pitt basketball
Now I'm working on the basketball seasons, and it's actually pretty difficult. I'm linking to the tournaments each year, as well as the other teams. I'll keep working on it, but won't put it up until after the end of the tournament, with hopefully a National Championship (Bob Knight thinks so). Check it out, here.  Grsz  ' 11 ' 00:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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 * I am glad that my views could help your College from being deleted. I firmly believe that a a double-standard is currently being applied to some select institutions on Wikipedia.  The Ivy League institutions are allowed every leeway in the book, whereas the Major Research Universities get judged far more harsly then these other highly prestigious institutions.  This is not only grossly unfair, but it is also undemocratic taboot.  I pledge to defend all Major Research Universities, and they deserve the same playing field as the Ivy League schools.

Wikiproject University of Pittsburgh

 * Ask the members on WikiProject Universities how to start a page for the University of Pittsburgh. Jccort (talk) 15:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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Pitt falcolns
Hey, I'm considering creating an article for the falcons in the Cathedral. They'll receive national recognition when the Cathedral appears on John Ratzenberger's Made in America on the Travel Channel. I'm gonna do some research when I get around to it. Here's an article I saw today that gave me the inspiration. Let me know what you think, as well as if you have any additional information. Thanks,  Grsz  11  21:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Oakland zoo
The wording may have been a joke, but the bias ends there (otherwise I'd want all Pitt and Penn State articles everywhere speedied). I will otherwise be objective about why I endorse the article the way I do. The papers may be major, but they're still Pittsburgh papers covering Pittsburgh stories, the same as any other local paper covers the local university.

I'll save further debate for the AfD. Go Mountaineers! :) DarkAudit (talk) 04:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I really need to get to sleep, but I'll leave you with this. The ESPN and SI mentions will carry more weight than any blog (Even from the Washington Post. Mention the word "blog" and the AfD crew will WP:RS you to death.) or stories from the Pittsburgh papers. You're welcome to nominate other student sections for AfD, but you'd better be real sure that the articles don't pass notability or sourcing guidelines first. You don't want to be hit with accusations of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS or WP:POINT because the Zoo article is in AfD. Don't let them think you're nominating out of spite. Keep it strictly business. DarkAudit (talk) 05:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Paco, I've responded to you on my talk page.  BroadSt_Bully  [talk]  15:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, in an ongoing effort to "protect" student section pages, I proposed adding a "student section" paramater to the info box that appears on all college basketball team articles. The problem is I don't understand how the coding works for it. :-)  BroadSt_Bully  [talk]  16:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I live in northern VA and am lucky enough to have tickets to Game 2 in DC. For your sake, I hope you lose to another team before we have to set up your tee times yet again. :-)  BroadSt_Bully  [talk]  22:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I've just created a category for college basketball student sections. You can access it at the bottom of the Zoo or Nation page. Currently I've found 13 articles.  BroadSt_Bully  [talk]  20:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

my bad
I haven't actually dealt with someone trying to delete an article for poor reasons. I guess he goes to WVU ha ha Superbowlbound (talk) 02:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Nationality Rooms
I may be able to help flesh out this page... I started the Cathedral of Learning page back in 2004, and am a former guide for the Nat Rooms, plus I'll be back in Pgh for five weeks this summer. I have most of the training materials somewhere.... I'll see if I can't add some stuff during what free time I have from Grad school. Nice work on Pitt stuff! Lyellin (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How complete do you feel the Pitt infobox is? In the back of my head I'm thinking of compiling all the Pitt articles into a pdf ala Wikireaders, but have not recently checked through all the articles. Do you feel your to-do list is pretty complete? Lyellin (talk) 17:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In addition, it looks like you started work on a University of Pittsburgh Wikiproject? Is that happening? Lyellin (talk) 18:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * So let's see here. On the simple items - I wouldn't start a wikireader (a thing from years ago basically putting a bunch of articles from one topic in a pdf to be printed out in little book form - think a 90 page little thing on Pitt to hand out to people made from WP articles), until a to-do list had been made and worked on. This is why I was asking about the wikiproject - if there is one, I'd def be involved. That being said, I'm in grad school in DC (I'm from Philly as well - Bucks County, but went to undergrad at Pitt), so I can only do a bit at a time around schoolwork. I'd love to be involved if you start it. In terms of the list of what you have to do, I've already got some ideas for a couple, and will be at Pitt for 5 weeks doing a summer language institute, so I may be able to get some pictures going of things that still need them. If we can get a wikiproject going, get a to-do list going, and get a list of articles to work towards good and featured status, I'll hopefully be much more useful then. Lyellin (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Pictures
Sure, I enjoy taking pictures, and I will often just snap one whenever I happen to see something interesting. Especially all the artwork hanging around Pitt.

Are there any buildings around Pitt that still need an outside shot? Do you think that inside shots (maybe of the lobby or typical classroom) add much to an building article? I tried to take a few classrooms pics, but they looked terrible. Any Oakland or other Pittsburgh landmarks that need pictures? I'm relatively new to wikipedia, so I'm not sure where there is a lack of coverage.

On another note, what do you think of starting a Pitt wikiproject? I have no idea what that would entail, but I see lots of school have one. --Shizzy9989 (talk) 19:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I definitely agree with your thoughts on keeping the Pitt photos appealing. I have a mid-grade camera, and I'm still trying to learn the different controls, so I hope my pictures get better...Let me know if there's some that work especially well, or some that could be re-shot. I'd like to nominate some for good photo designation.


 * I'll try to get some better outside shots of buildings once the trees have leaves. Maybe I'll even try to replicate/replace some of the photos that are already on the pages. (Editorial comment: I think the Hillman/Barco/Posvar/Lawrence/Towers buildings are hideously designed. They look fascist to me.) I'm relatively new to the area, so if you want to keep a list of things that could use pictures, I can just hop on my bike and take a bunch at once. I'll hit up the Cathedral for the nationality rooms, too. Also, if there's a professional photo you want me to mimic, just send me a link to it, and I'll see what I can do.


 * I'll definitely help out with a Wikiproject for Pitt. I don't know enough to take the lead on it, but I'll help out.


 * I took a few pics today, and I would like your thoughts on them. They didn't turn out quite like I had hoped. Maybe there's something from them that can be salvaged through cropping or retouching? Image:BarcoEntrance.JPG Image:BarcoEntrance2.JPG Image:BarcoEntrance3.JPG Image:BarcoEntrance4.JPG Image:BarcoEntrance4.JPG. I'm not sure that there's even a good angle from which to take these. Also, is there a place for this picture? Image:BridgeOverForbesAvePitt.jpg. I was just trying to mess with my night settings. --Shizzy9989 (talk) 02:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

--Shizzy9989 (talk) 02:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I like the night shot thing. Do you know of a good website or resource that can give me the basics about photography? Either about the aesthetics (like how to compose a shot) or the mechanics (like what the heck an f-number is and how to use it).--Shizzy9989 (talk) 20:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, I have to take a semi-retirement from wikipedia for a while. You know, sometimes you just have to take a break from wikipedia or it consumes your entire being. Here's what I was working on: Wikipedia:PITT/Infobox Template:Cleanup-Pitt Template:Pitt-stub. Hope the wikiproject can use them. Will probably return by summertime.--Shizzy9989 (talk) 05:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Your question regarding the number of schools.
We do have 17 schools, and the CBA and Katz graduate school are separate. I looked into and found that Falk School was listed in the template but not on the University page. Turns out it is a k-8 school, and not part of the University of Pittsburgh. Superbowlbound (talk) 21:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, i would guess it goes under miscellanea also, I just removed it from the template because it wasn't a college within the University. If a Pitt project starts up I would like to be a part of it. Superbowlbound (talk) 22:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

College games at PNC Park
Hey, thanks for the links. I'm working on a rough draft in my sandbox. I was wondering if you knew about any other high school or college games played there. I would be suprised if there have not been, I know Heinz Field has hosted high school games, but I don't really know where to look. Any info you (or any other Pittsburgher on here) have would be helpful, because at this point four college games is interesting, but not really that note-worthy; I have a peer review set up for the article (which should happen sometime this weekend) I could ask him what he thinks after he's done his thing. Thanks! Blackngold29 (talk) 23:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Nationality rooms
I know that Quo Vadis, the tour guides, are taught that at least the French room does not fit this role - it is actually modeled after a style after the 1789 date. That being said, I'm drawing this again from materials I don't have with me, and my memory of being a tour guide (yea, still tracking those down, damnit. Guy doesn't know where they are, so I may have them hidden somewhere). Anyways, feel free to have it removed till I can confirm it with a source. Lyellin (talk) 01:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I need to check further - There may be one more, but I don't think so. Pretty sure it's just the french room that doesn't qualify. Lyellin (talk) 02:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * About that, I may have some information: Image:Cathedral Plaque.jpg and Image talk:Cathedral Plaque.jpg. Hope it helps. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 05:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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School of Medicine
Thanks for the suggestion. First time contributor – many times reader! I’m not family with adding the listing to the Univ Pitt page. I am following the Wikiproject Universities guidelines in hopes to be labeled as a “good article.” Any help is greatly appreciated. Mezzlevel (talk) 18:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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it's fine~
Dude, Chill, it's a common story told at the Cathedral, but if it's not true, it's not true, and it's good to get it out of there! I'm not insulted, hurt, upset, or anything else. I just wanted to ensure that my memory of it (and giving the story on tours), was not actually based on something. As all of my books don't mention it, it's out, and that's fine! Heh. It's completely cool. It's done, it's fixed, and Wikipedia has been copied so many times, with so many mistakes - you do what you can. We can't deal with people reporting sloppily, just make sure our own stuff is accurate. Sorry I haven't been around much to be working on things, but I'm glad to tie up this loose end. Lyellin (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We're entirely on the same page, and I completely respect you for all the work you've done - you got me lurking and editing on WP again, and that says something, so yes, everythings fine. Lyellin (talk) 03:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Pictures?
Hello. I found a few pictures from a while back that might be useful for the List of Pitt Buildings. I am not sure how you are organizing that page, so here are the photos and you can see where they best fit. (Epidemiology? and Information Technology? and "Off-campus Housing office"? and Bellefield Towers) I'm not sure of the title of the first three buildings are, so I added what I could recollect). Thanks! --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 05:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)(formerly User:Shizzy9989)


 * Hey, May I have your aesthetic opinion on something? I find myself taking pictures of historical markers and plaques when I am out taking photos. They help me remember what I just took a picture of, and they often provide a good source of basic information if the article is lacking. But my question is: Do you think they are generally worthy of placement in the article itself? An example: Would these add or detract to the Roberto Clemente Bridge article: Image:RobertoClementePoem.JPG & Image:RobertoClementeHistoricalMarker.JPG.


 * I went to the Cathedral this weekend to try and get some pictures of some of the nationality rooms, and they were locked. I'm not sure what the availability during the summer is--but I'll try again during the week. I'll also try and get some shots of some more of the buildings without photos. (I replaced the RAND building photo on the list of pitt buildings.) If there are any good professional shots of the pitt buildings, maybe send me the link and I can try and reproduce them. I have some pictures in my camera that I haven't uploaded yet, so I'll try to do that in a few days.
 * Also, I went looking for 2 of the Cantini murals that were supposedly downtown. 1 (in the Oliver building) is behind the security guard's desk, and any photo will be worthless. I don't think there is one in the USX tower. The best I could find was this crummy mural in the basement: . It is definitely not cantini and not worth putting on wikipedia--no offense to the painter. I think we might have a pretty complete record of his publicly viewable works. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 12:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Check out the new photos" List of University of Pittsburgh buildings. I replaced a few photos of buildings with new ones. If you think the old ones were better, then feel free to change them back. Also, Pitt owns this building: Image:3501ForbesAvenuePitt.jpg, but I can't find it on the list. I thought this was a Pitt building, since it has a Pitt logo on the side door:Image:3500FifthAvenuePittsburgh.jpg but I'm not certain. I forget the name of this building behind the Pete: Image:UpperResidenceHallPitt.jpg.--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 15:50, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll try and fill those building requests.--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 19:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you already told me this, but I can't find it: Do you know what the official names of these buildings are? I'm trying to get them accurately named and properly categorized.Image:130BellefieldPittsburgh.JPG, Image:130BellefieldPittsburgh2.JPG, Image:PittOffCampus.JPG.--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 16:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I added some more photos to the list of Pitt buildings. I am at a loss to get a good exterior shot of Trees Hall (but I'll try to get inside some time). I have about another 15 pictures of various Pitt buildings to add later. Uploading those is a pain. Maybe it would be a good thing to get a requested photo list going for the WP:PITT. Maybe something like this:
 * Turkish Nationality Room
 * Swedish Nationality Room
 * Trees Pool
 * Ground-floor shot of the Peterson basketball court
 * Towers gyms
 * Towers dorms (showing the oddly angled walls), etc.

Feel free to photoshop any of my photos. I am not sure what is going on with some of those shots where the sky seems all white and fuzzy. Possibly a result of Pittsburgh's famous overcast weather. I don't know if there's a place for it on the main WP:PITT website, but I'll help get a picture request list going.--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 04:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)I added about 15 more photos just now. Here they are: commons:User:TheZachMorrisExperience. Still have to migrate the rest of my pictures to commons, but that is where the new ones are going.--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 06:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * How authoritative is the pitt building list? I found this, and it seems to have some buildings that don't appear of the wiki page. Maybe your list is better, but I thought I should pass this on...Also, check this out: WikiProject University of Pittsburgh/Pictures

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Trees
Great work on the Trees Hall page! I'll get you a good photo yet.

About the Dippy photos, some guy on the commons was having a fit and deleting all the Dinosaur statue photos. Technically, he may be right--statues and sculpture are not covered by the "Freedom of Panorama" that allows us to photograph buildings, trees, animals, and whatnot. The reason is that statues and sculptures are works of human creativity and just because they're outside, the author doesn't cede his right to it. So, I just emailed the press guy for the Carnegie for a GDFL release on the Dippy photo, then I sent it to OTRS. This process is kind of confusing, and if you want, I can elaborate. Now, I do believe that we'd have a good chance at protecting the Cantinis or panther statues with a well-written Fair Use Rationale. You have to figure that a 2D jpg photo of a statue is not going to harm the copyright holder's right over the 3D sculpture; and that such a photo is the subject of critical commentary. However, the guy deleting all the dinosaurs was on a rampage, so I figured he'd get fussy with any fair use rationale for the statues. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 17:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I agree that the list is thorough--I sent you that link just in case there were some on there you weren't aware of. Also, I can get a picture of the U-PARC, if you think it would be a good idea. I also agree that the maintenance buildings are of minimal interest, but I'll get them at some point--just to complete the list. TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 00:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know about the number of courts at Trees. It was all locked when i went there to take photos, but I'll try again the next time I'm up there. By the way, I did manage to sneak into Fitzgerald and take a bunch of renovation pictures, but none of them turned out good enough for the article, since there was already a picture of the bleachers all out of sorts. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 04:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Know anything about the Carrillo Street Steam Plant? I checked on Carrillo Street behind Trees, and there's nothing but an empty lot. Couldn't find anything that on google satellite either.


 * I might be able to nail the last of the photos before school starts back. I think we need to get the missing nationality rooms listed--since there will probably be some students who can do those, since I may not have time by then. Maybe 1 "detail" shot from the nationality room for the infobox and one big shot of the room? I think the Israel room is a good example of that. I have some shots of the UPMC sport center for you, once I get them processed. Great work on the Chancellor's residence article, by the way.--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 08:29, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I got you some photos of the UPMC Sports Complex. Enjoy! Image:UPMCSportsPerformanceComplex.jpg,Image:UPMCSportsPerformanceComplex2.jpg,Image:UPMCSportsPerformanceComplex3.jpg,Image:UPMCSportsPerformanceComplex4.jpg,Image:UPMCSportsPerformanceComplex5.jpg,Image:UPMCSportsPerformanceComplex6.jpg--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 02:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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Heinz Field
I was re-writing the Heinz Field article and noticed that I don't have too many sources about Pitt's involvment, especially in the funding area which I assume they contribe something to. I figured you might have a source somewhere since you seem to be a Pitt expert on WP. If not that's fine, I'll just keep looking something is sure to pop up. Also, I was uploading some pictures from Flickr to the Commons the other day and happend to upload this one, I don't know where it is but hopefully it can be put to use somewhere.  Black  ngold29   06:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That would explain a lot. I suppose I'll have to find the official announcment that Pitt was moving to Heinz, but at least I know I'm not leaving out big parts of the history. Thanks!  Black  ngold29   17:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Got a real minor question, there's still a piece of the outfield fence of Forbes Field standing. I have a book that says it's outside the U of Pitt library. Is that the "Library Resource Facility" that I see on List of University of Pittsburgh buildings, or another one? It's not a big deal, but it can't hurt to be specific. Thanks!  Black  ngold29   04:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

St.Peter's
Thank you for the Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Category. I helped get the chuch the landmark plaque, and had lots of fun discussing this with Jamie Trump. Pustelnik (talk) 23:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC) St. Peter's Episcopal Church (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) is not still standing. I left Pittsburgh after the landmark plaque. I understand that there were several fires, either in the church or in the rectory. I'm not sure if these were the reason for it being demolished, though. It was an impressive building, and the tower/spire was a superb piece of stonework. There was a local Oakland weekly newspaper, and I read several articles in its archives about the church in the 1920's. It was more active than when I knew it in the 1970's, ran a baskeball program for local kids and everything. Pustelnik (talk) 11:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Falk School Teachers' Center and other stuff...
Hey, I think the Teachers' Center at the Falk School has been demolished. I was up there recently, and didn't see anything adjacent to the building besides the playground and a bunch of dumpsters labeled "asbestos." Also, here's a news article saying that they plannedon knocking the Teachers' Center down:. Agree to take it off the list of Pitt buildings?--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 20:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait...is this the Teachers' Center at the Falk School?Image:ConstructionatFalkSchoolPittsburgh.jpg
 * Which of these are the BST South? I couldn't find it, so I took a bunch of pictures that could have been it: (Image:BSTSouth.jpg,Image:BSTSouth(2).jpg, Image:BSTSouth(3).jpg, Image:BSTSouth(4).jpg,Image:BSTSouth(5).jpg,Image:BSTSouth(6).jpg). You seem to know where this thing is, so could you look through these ans see if I got it? If not, can you give me some direction on where to get the shot?--TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 02:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll try to get the BST South one more time. Man alive, it is turning into a wild goose chase! Of the 6 "BST" photos I took today, which ones should I just have deleted? Also, the Falk School trailers in the photo are probably classrooms, since there is another set of trailers behind it that have the name of the contractor on them. If we can find any photo of the teachers center we can use it with a "fair use rationale." I can write that if you can find a photo of it.Any thought on getting thing building list Featured List status? --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 04:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Did I get the BST 2 in any of these pictures? If not, then I give up. Image:BSTSouth(7).jpg, Image:BSTSouth(8).jpg, Image:BSTSouth(9).jpg, Image:BSTSouth(10).jpg, Image:BSTSouth(11).jpg. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 20:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the star. Finding all those buildings was kinda like a scavenger hunt. Also, check these out: Featured list candidates/List of University of Pittsburgh buildings & . --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 23:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Cantini Photos
Yeah, so most of our Cantini stuff is liable to be deleted unless we get it in line with Non-free content, since they're all pictures of art. I'm in the process of doing this and it might mess up some Pitt articles for a bit. Once we get this aligned, maybe we can reorganize them. The crummiest part of this is that none of this can be used in a "gallery." This isn't being paranoid either, someone is already eyeing up those pictures. [--[[User:TheZachMorrisExperience|TheZachMorrisExperience]] (talk) 04:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We could try to get his permission--but I doubt it. He has no webpage and doesn't even sell his wares any more. I have no idea how to even contact him.


 * I can try to see if Pitt will release them as derivative works, but I'm not sure if they or VC has the copyright. I have been talking to an admin who is also a lawyer, and he has yet to get back to me on a few other questions, so I'll ask him that too. But, as of right now, we are probably safe from someone speedy deleting the VC pictures. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 01:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I just sent a release request to Pitt's media contact. We'll see if they grant the release. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 03:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know if you saw this, but someone on Commons deleted a photo of the Honus Wagner statue. You seemed annoyed that I placed all the Cantini photos under Fair Use, but now they won't be summarily deleted, like the Honus Wagner statue. I'm going to have to do the same for any pictures of statues I can find, including the Stephen Foster statue. Let me know if you know of any others that need to be likewise protected. YOu haven't been on in a while, hope things are going well. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 02:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Pitt's Office of the General Counsel responded to my request to release the license for the photos of Cantini's stuff, and even though they said no (not very surprising), they also said "The University would like to discuss ways in which we can supply your University of Pittsburgh project team with accurate information and University-owned photographs." I would like to forward this email from them to you, since are the leader of the WP:PITT. Maybe they can give us the missing information to complete the List of Pitt Buildings. I dunno, but the seem interested in helping us out in a non-POV kind of way. You have your "E-mail this user" disables, so write your email address on my wall, or send it to me with this "Email the user," so I can forward it to you.--HoboJones (talk) 21:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Forbes Field and other venues
I've completed initial work on Forbes Field. I you have anything to add please feel free to do so. I have more info to add eventually, but it reached the point where it was worthy of the mainspace. I think I have enough to make it an FA someday, along with PNC Park (I think I'm gonna nominate that one soon). If possible I would like to finish up the rest of the stadiums used by the Steelers and Pirates, and while I'm at it I might as well do Pitt football as all three have overlapped multiple times. I'll probably do Exposition Park next, but then Pitt Stadium and Mellon Arena (although those two seem to have limited sources from my small research). Actually, that should cover Pitt football right? Maybe I'll look into The Pete too.  Black  ngold29   06:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

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any issue with me deleting it? I have replaced it with Image:Pittbanner Heinz.png in the template, and it now seems orphaned. -- lucasbfr  talk 15:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Hey, is this a photo of a painting from somewhere at Pitt? I might be able to save it via a Fair Use Rationale. Shall I try?--HoboJones (talk) 02:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's see if that works. It should, I think.--HoboJones (talk) 15:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Journal of Law and Commerce
I agree with the metric, but are you suggesting that one third of all journals are automatically notable because they fall into the top third? I strenuously disagree. Bongomatic (talk) 00:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Good work on the Journal of Law and Commerce. I looked through the issues online and couldn't find anything bongomatic would have considered "notable," and in the next few days, I'll format those articles like this one has the articles formatted:Harvard law review (ZME) --HoboJones (talk) 01:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, but I think I'll continue to expand the journal, if for no other reason than it looks better than a boring listing. Bongomatic got a bug up his butt over that article for no good reason. --HoboJones (talk) 05:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have "a bug up my butt" about about journals in general, or this one in particular. I do, however, care about notability, which is why I look at unpatrolled articles, starting from the earliest. Starting with the earliest unpatrolled articles (which are a month old using the default view) allows new articles a chance to be improved for a month before I make an attempt to asses their notability.
 * Looking back on it, I shouldn't have used the phrase "bug up his butt." Apologizes.--HoboJones (talk) 02:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * While there is an RfD active on the matter, as of now, WP:N is not superseded by any subject-specific guidelines, let alone the so-called consensus of the contributors to a particular project. Moreover, the project page WP:WikiProject Academic Journals doesn't have any comments on the applicability of WP:N, and the talk page of the project doesn't appear to come to a consensus, despite a lot of discussion on the matter.


 * It is simply false to say that all journals are notable. If the guideline is ultimately adopted that every journal gets an exemption from WP:N in order to provide color for any other articles that references that journal as a source, I'll refrain from commenting on the notability of journals. In the meantime, if my concern about notability motivates you and HoboJones to improve articles, it seems like a good result to me. Bongomatic (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That is clearly been the standing consensus of Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals whether you agree with it or not. I have not found an instance of an academic, peer-reviewed, indexed journal failing AFD. "Journals" that do not meet this criteria have failed AFD. You are 100% correct though, improvement of articles is always a good outcome regardless of any dispute. CrazyPaco (talk) 13:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Attorneys
Did you get my email? Are you willing to be the contact guy between WP:PITT and them? I figure that one person dealing with them will be the best way to go.

We should consider asking if they have access to the missing information at Pitt buildings. Also, maybe they can get us a picture of the locked "Babcock Room" at the Cathedral. Maybe some GFDL releases on some of the professional photos of the common room of the Cathedral? (I can't get any pictures to look very good). Maybe they could release photos of Category:University of Pittsburgh faculty, Category:University of Pittsburgh faculty, Category:Chancellors of the University of Pittsburgh. Also, maybe derivative work license on the O'Connor picture?--HoboJones (talk) 23:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We only need a picture of the Swedish Nationality Room to complete the set. Every time I go there, there's a class or it is locked. But, I'll get it. Also, check this out: Nationality Rooms. When you get a chance (and I know you're busy), you might want to move these images to commons:Image:UkrainRoom.jpg,Image:SyriaLebanonRoom.jpg,Image:IsraelRoomFloormosaic.jpg,Image:ArmenianRoom2.jpg so they can be added to the commons Nationality Page. You think Nationality Rooms might be ready for GA soon?--HoboJones (talk) 03:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

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History of Pittsburgh
Hey Paco, I'd welcome a look at History of Pittsburgh and it's FAC when you get some free time. Thanks,  Grsz  11   →Review!  05:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe the article could better cover the University. By all means,  Grsz  11   →Review!  05:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. I don't think it could pass FAC by Nov 25, the official 250 anniv., but it's worth a shot.  Grsz  11   →Review!  05:47, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

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Possibility of Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art at the Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh
Since you've taken many great pictures of Pitt and its surrounds, you may be interested in this. Hope to see you there! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 05:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

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The merger process is a how-to... it is not a policy that must be followed every time. For uncontroversial redirects (which I believe these are per Centralized discussion/Fight songs--which essentially is the discussion you are requesting) the "whole process" is redundant and onerous. Please also see discussion on my talk page. NJGW (talk) 20:29, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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 * Paco, thanks for the heads up to the relevant discussion. I wish the editors from "centralized discussion" had been as considerate.--Patrick «» 06:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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Tourney
Wow, seems like they're looking to disappoint yet again...  Grsz 11  21:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

A disappointing finish but a good season. Can't believe they could let him walk up the middle like that, but when you miss 8 freethrows to the other team's 1, you're in bad shape. Guess we have to wait 'til next year. Penn State still sucks.  Grsz 11  02:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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