User talk:Creativity97/Archive 2

Archived discussions from: April 12 to July 2, 2012.

Disappointed (cont.)
About John again, I did some research and even though Billy isn't a John, John would technically be John IV, because just say hypothetically; John Sr. had Jack and Billy, Jack was named John Jr. and Billy is Billy. Jack then had a stillborn named John, so thus he would be John III. Even though Billy isn't a John, John Sr. is still is father and John Jr. his his brother, and thus Billy's newborn would be John IV. That's the way I see it. It's true because in in my best friend's family, his father named my friend's brother after himself, and my friend was named differently. My friend's son was named after his grandfather, and his name ends with "III." Anyway I believe his name is John Abbott IV. Whatever, nothing to argue about. It's fine as is for now I guess.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  22:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * John wouldn't be John IV. Unless they legally added "IV" to his name, he wouldn't be "IV". He can't be "III", stillborn is still a child. When a Jr has a son, the son, if named identically, is a III. If, upon the death of the original, the Jr. chooses to stop using the Jr, the III stays III. (If he did not, he would be confused with his father.) Furthermore, when the III dies, his son remains IV, and so on. The eldest may choose to drop the suffix, but everybody else retains their number. Billy's son cannot be "IV". Billy isn't John III, so he cannot name his child John IV. His child is John. Just like Karen Spencer and her daughter, Caroline. Caroline is just a namesake, not a "Jr." since Caroline Spencer did not give birth to her. PS: Thanks for copying my "Archive" set-up, lol. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 00:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Alright, it doesn't really matter to me what his name is, as long as he's on the children's page :) Haha sorry if I copied your archive set-up, I just put it that way cuz I thought it looked best :)  Creativity 97  (Talk)  02:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Grey's Anatomy
Hi Creativity97. It is format to include in their infoboxes the full names and specify their start to the series as well as departures. If you would like to change the format of the page, please discuss it at Talk:List of Grey's Anatomy characters, or WikiProject Grey's Anatomy. Thank you. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 15:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh okay sorry I wasn't aware :) I just figured that someone was randomly putting their full name and so I changed it but if it's supposed to be that way then my bad.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  18:15, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

No problem! Thanks for all the help with the Grey's Anatomy pages. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 18:26, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You're very welcome. If you ever need further help I'm available.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  18:27, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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You keep copy/pasting from my upload and your "source" for the images is completely false. I wouldn't upload image if you can't correctly source them Creativity. Sorry bud, but everything you've upload is 99.9% likely to be deleted due to poor sourcing/citing. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:49, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, thank you. And I really don't mean to be rude but please don't call me "bud", I don't like to be talked down to. I'm working on "correctly sourcing" the images. The Stacy Haiduk one is probably headed for deletion but I'm going to try and work on the others.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  22:58, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just call everyone "bud", it's not me talking "down" to you at all. It's usually what I call my male friends is all. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:59, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh okay then I'm sorry, I didn't realize that :S If that's just a general nickname then by all means call me that if you want :)  Creativity 97  (Talk)  00:32, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Aha, if you don't like it I won't call you it, aha. I just have a habit of calling people "bud" since majority of my [small] male friends are heterosexuals, aha. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 00:49, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Do you want to?
Hey Creativity, do you want to help me make decade pages or expand a Misc. Character page for The Bold and the Beautiful. I need a good project and it's inspiring me. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 00:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Sure I guess, you know I don't watch B&B right? I could help with just about everything but storylines and such, but old characters are fine because I didn't know have the characters on the Y&R pages I made. Let me know the details :)  Creativity 97  (Talk)  02:18, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't know much about the storylines either. I'm considering inviting Arre into this project, but don't know if she'd be up for it since she's not doing soap articles anymore. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 02:31, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay that sounds good. Have you started a sandbox page for it yet?  Creativity 97  (Talk)  21:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No. Not yet. Also, I have another Sharon Case image I feel is much superior for the Sharon article in a much better quality. Also, don't upload an image so big. They'll tell you to shrink it down. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:54, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh great :) Sorry I just found that one and thought it'd be good for Sharon's article, because the other one kinda old now, she doesn't really look like that anymore (in that photo she almost looks redhead). Have you uploaded the new one yet? I'd love to see it :)  Creativity 97  (Talk)  23:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * If we went by how someone looked Creativity, images would be changed every 2-4 months. Because SC is blonde again anyway. I haven't gotten around to uploading it yet, but will be within the next day or so. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah good point haha. Do you mean that Sharon is going to be blonde again onscreen?  Creativity 97  (Talk)  23:32, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Mhmm. The actress tweeted an image earlier this month and she's fully blonde again. I uploaded the image. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:35, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

You were right, that is a nice photo (better than mine haha). By the looks of that photo it looks as if she still has a bit of brownness left in her hair. Maybe it's just the lighting. Anyway I always preferred Sharon as a blonde, I know you don't :) Maybe it's just because she was a blonde for so long and she was a brunette for a little over a year.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  23:39, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The photo I put up is here still as a brunette. And funny thing is, SC is naturally a brunette like it is right now on Y&R. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:43, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh wow I never knew that. Anyway I'm looking forward to seeing Sharon as a blonde again on Y&R! I'm logging off now.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  23:45, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

JSYK
We don't list "son-in-law", etc. on character info boxes per consensus on WP:SOAPS. It's cluttering and considering fancraft. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 04:09, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. No one ever told me.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  14:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No one's going to tell you. I suggest continue looking on WP:SOAPS from time to time. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 16:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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Your Kate Linder image was too large so I resized it per WP:FAIRUSE. Don't upload images that large, they'll ask that they be re-sized and shrunken down. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 23:46, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Oops yeah sorry I was about do that when I saw how big it was but thanks! You saved me some work :)  Creativity 97  (Talk)  00:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Aha, it's fine. Only took me a minute to resize, ahaha. Easy peasie! Thanks for helping with Y&R images. I know I've been doing some, too. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 01:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey I uploaded a new image of Katherine, not realizing you had upload one of your own. I'm putting it on Jeanne's page for right now. If it gets deleted, it gets deleted. I can reupload. Mine is a lot more recent so check in out! Music Freak 7676 TALK! 01:53, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The only thing I don't like about it is how she's like squinting and from far it makes it look like she's making a silly face, lol. You're right, it is more recent, but let's just see how it plays out on Jeanne's page for now.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  13:10, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * She's going to look squinty in anything man, she's isn't 25 anymore, aha. LOL. I don't see what you see, aha. I guess we'll have to stick with yours then.... Music Freak 7676 TALK! 16:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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User Pages
Are you developing the Genevieve page in your sandbox? Because if so, I'm not going to bother with mine. So if that's what you're going to do, let me know. I'm working on Chelsea, and will begin on Avery as well. I just want to make sure so that way there aren't two pages being expanded upon in sandboxes. I know that's what is happening in other soap operas right now, so I don't want it to happen between us. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 17:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Yep I'm doing Genevieve's page in my sandbox.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  19:45, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. I won't do mine and I'll turn it into another character. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 21:09, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, you still have my e-mail right? Can you e-mail me please? Music Freak 7676 TALK! 05:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

What for???  Creativity 97  (Talk)  13:34, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to see how you were doing, since we aren't supposed to do flat-out personal talks on Wiki. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 18:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Gwen
I had to undo your edit to Gwen. If you can't redirect the page, you have to request for it to be moved. So I had to undo what you did and I have to do it the correct way. Never physically move a page. And Gwen's commonname is Gwen Norbeck Munson, the majority of her run, that's been her name. If you can't move the page with the move tool, you have to request for the move. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 17:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, fine. Doesn't matter I guess. And also, I saw the new Michael Baldwin picture you uploaded, in all honesty the other one fits the character better, like you said with the Gloria picture.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  17:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I think the new one should stay. It's a closer shot of Michael and is clearer quality. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 17:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Is it still listed for deletion?  Creativity 97  (Talk)  17:47, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no clue. I do believe the user who nominated it just did it to nominate an image. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 18:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes and they also nominated my J.T. and Gloria images, both of which are now gone. The Gloria one doesn't matter because we weren't using it but the J.T. one was much more recent then the previous and current image.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  18:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I may upload a new JT image, I have an awesome one I'd love to use. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:18, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Great!! I'll admit that mine wasn't the best quality but it was better than the one that's there now. Let me know when you've uploaded it.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  19:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll probably do it sometime later this week. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Grey Anatomy Weekly Newsletter
WikiProject Grey Anatomy Newsletter: The Week of June 11, 2012 Hello members of WikiProject Grey Anatomy! We are sending out our weekly newsletter with updates about the project and tasks. First, we would like to take this time to introduce several new members to the project: Creativity97, who joined in May, Sofffie7, Smileyglen66 and InfamousPrince, who all joined in June. It is nice to be able to have more members, so as to better help out the project. We have some new achievements and updates to be announced. First, we've received four new good articles (Grey's Anatomy seasons 1-4), which were developed by Jonathan Harold Koszeghi. Second, there are three new good article nominees, awaiting reviews (Meredith Grey, Owen Hunt, and Arizona Robbins), which TRLIJC19 decided to develop. Finally, Grey's Anatomy has been rewritten and majorly expanded to comply with the Featured Article Criteria. There are plans for the article to be nominated after a peer review is completed.

There are many things to be done for the project, in an attempt to exemplify its best work. Below is a list of tasks, and guidelines: Weekly Initiative! The weekly initiative this week, is to pick an underdeveloped character article (one that isn't GA or better), and develop it, modeling off of Owen Hunt or Meredith Grey! Search the internet for character information, and try to get the article to GA quality (using MOS and Wikipedia guidelines), then nominate it. Barnstars will be awarded to users who develop their articles to GA quality! Also, use the templates listed at the project page to recruit new members, the more the merrier! Take part in these initiatives, have fun developing an article to GA, feel proud after the article you developed reaches GA, and be rewarded with barnstars! Help make a difference and get started!
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 * Shorten character storylines, using to reference episodes, and break down season sub-section headers into just one section, "Storylines".
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 * Many users and IPs have been erasing "surgical resident" from fifth year residents characters' occupations in infoboxes and at List of Grey's Anatomy characters. This should all be held off until more info is given on their current occupation in the season premiere. Revert if you see this, and if it's persistent; warn users.

Have fun and don't forget to cite everything you write! We hope to see several new good articles, and new members, soon! --The community of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy (Written by TRLIJC19)

hey
Hey, i was looking at your userpage (hope you don't mind) and i saw your sandbox for Diane Jenkins murder storyline. I actually like making a page for that would be a good idea... do you mind if i edit in your sandbox & add some sources etc? :) Maybe we could make it a page sometime in the future... ? − Soap  Jar 10:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah sure go ahead! I was planning to work on it but I've been busy. Do what you want, I don't mind!  Creativity 97  (Talk)  14:44, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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Good job
I would like to commend you for participating in the WikiProject Grey's Anatomy weekly initiative, and I hope you can get the article to GA status! TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 19:27, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks!! I'm working on it!  Creativity 97  (Talk)  19:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

If you need any help, feel free to ask. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 19:35, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay can you expand the plot section for the article? I've seen the episode but it's been awhile so I can't remember the details.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  19:40, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I also recommend renaming it to Pilot (Grey's Anatomy), because this is how most TV pilots are names (Pilot (House), Pilot (Parks and Recreation)). TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 19:44, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I can see what you mean, but those shows are named "Pilot" because that is the actual name of the episode, Pilot is not the name of Grey's Anatomy's pilot, you see what I mean? Also I've started developing an article for Now or Never in my sandbox, and I can't seem to find any reception or reviews of just that episode online. Have you ever come across any?  Creativity 97  (Talk)  19:48, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

That's a good point. And no, but I'll look for info on it. I'll be kind of busy today, but will be available later tonight to look. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 19:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay! I was actually quite happy when I read the newsletter and saw that the weekly initiative was to create an article for an episode, I was planning on doing that long before I joined this WikiProject but never had the time! If you find any reviews/reception for Now or Never feel free to add it to my sandbox, you don't need to ask. I was also thinking of making an article for Flight, too.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  19:55, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Flight (Grey's Anatomy) is already an article. When you create new episode pages, make sure you add a link to them at their season page, so I can keep track! :)  TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 19:57, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I will! I like to keep track, too. Thanks for letting me know! I knew it wouldn't have took long to make Flight an article, with all of it's heart-clutching events and all!  Creativity 97  (Talk)  19:59, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Every month, I create a to-do list (User:TRLIJC19/TDL), and for July, I would like to add "promoting all season 1 and 2 episode articles to GA, if you could help... TRLIJC19   (  talk  ) 20:01, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll help as much as I can. Is Sadie Harris really worth being an article? She wasn't a series regular, and had a very brief storyline, though I know was supposed to be a main character until Brooke Smith was let go. There's a lot of backstage info on her, is that why she has an article?  Creativity 97  (Talk)  20:05, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I am in the midst of developing that to GA with Sofffie7. Although it is strange for a recurring character to receive an article, there is lots on info on her in the web. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 20:07, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * That's what I figured. I'm available if you need help with that.  Creativity 97  (Talk)  20:09, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

If you can find anything on reception or casting, that'd be great. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 20:23, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll let you know when/if I find some good info. Also, I saw that you gave Sofffie7 a barnstar for participating in last week's initiative, as well as developing an article to GA status. Does that mean people who participate in the weekly initiative receive barnstars or was that more for their work on the GA status?  Creativity 97  (Talk)  20:47, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Users who participate in the weekly initiative are rewarded a barnstar. But, the requirement is that the article you develop is nominated for GA. So, if A Hard Day's Night becomes a good article nomination, you will received a barnstar. But, sometimes members forget to award the barnstars. For example, I participated in the weekly initiative, promoting Callie Torres to GAN, and since I am the project maintainer, I was never awarded a barnstar, because members forgot :/ That is why I try to make sure that I award everyone who completes the initiative a barnstar. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 21:01, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay!! Thank you for the clarification. Can any user, new or experienced, award another user a barnstar?  Creativity 97  (Talk)  21:06, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, all members are encouraged to reward barnstars to other members of the project who do initiatives, by clicking the 'wikilove' button near the top of the user's talk page. TRLIJC19  (  talk  ) 21:08, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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