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Again, welcome! - Shudda   talk  11:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to BCproject
Glad to see another member of this project. I note your mention of Australian language. I was there over Christmas and several times thought I needed a translator, I think if I had stayed longer I might have picked it up. .. Cheers, KenWalker | Talk 19:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

League
Hello Cricketgirl; welcome to the League of Copyeditors. Youse think Strayan English is better than the overseas ones? Bonza! Do you prefer the Hogan variety or the Kath-and-Kim one? Rintrah 17:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Though I might be a traitor, I prefer Shakespeare's English to Hogan's. Oxford English is good, too. Rintrah 17:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Your VandalProof Application
Dear Cricketgirl,

Thank you for applying for VandalProof! (VP). As you may know, VP is a very powerful program, and in fact the just released 1.3 version has even more power. Because of this we must uphold strict protocols before approving a new applicant. Regretfully, I have chosen to decline your application at this time. The reason for this is that 47 mainspace edits. Please note it is nothing personal by any means, and we certainly welcome you to apply again soon. Thank you for your interest in VandalProof. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 18:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

League of Copyeditors participation drive!
Dear League member,

We've started a participation drive for the remainder of February. If you can, please help clear the backlog by adopting the following goals each week:
 * Select an article to copy-edit from the backlog. After your copy-edit, list the article in the articles ready for final proofread section.
 * Select a different article to proofread from the articles ready for final proofread section.

Thanks for your help! Budding Journalist 01:54, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

World Cup articles drive
Hi. I wondered if you might like to help our drive to improve articles before the World Cup begins. We're finishing Paul Collingwood (just need domestic cricket details) and are about to begin work on Adam Gilchrist. --Dweller 19:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Gilly
Okay, despite your affiliation to the wrong colour blue, I'd love for you to help out with the Gilchrist article. Perhaps to help you see what we're up to, have a look at the last hundred or so edits on Paul Collingwood, that's what we're trying to do. But all help is 100% encouraged! Let me know if you'd like to discuss it further.. The Rambling Man 20:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * "Shoe, shoe, shoe the Tab!, so they say! Physics sucks, I did four years of Engineering, that sucked too.  Well, cricket rules both of those subjects.  Let me know if I can help with anything WP in your life, and good luck with the Gilly article.  I'll be there!  The Rambling Man 21:17, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Footnotes from citations
Hi, thanks for your question. I use the following format:

This should make good citations! Any more questions, let me know. The Rambling Man 17:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies
Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of unassessed articles tagged with. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 20:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Persian literature
Dear Cricketgirl!

Persian literature was previously a GA. However it was silent about contemporary literature. I added information about "contemporary persian literature". The section needs copyeditting and also shortening. In case you are interested in the subject, I would like to ask you to help me in copy editting the article. I also posted a request in the "League of copyeditors page". Thanks alot.Sangak 16:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter
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Kirribilli House photo
Hi Cricketgirl,

First you click "* Upload file" from the "toolbox" menu on the left hand side of the screen, it is part of the permanent template of the whole Wikipedia site.

Scroll down until you see "source filename" and click browse, then you can upload the file. Choose a descriptive filename for it like "Kirribilli House", then the rest should be self explanatory. To make sure that it isn't deleted within 7 days, select an acceptable licence from the drop-down menu.

After that the hard part is putting it onto the page, check out the code for this for images from other articles by clicking the edit button, copy and paste the code and muck around with size and stuff. Remember the "destination filename" url because you basically link to the image from the article, rather than the other way round. Grumpyyoungman01 02:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Whoopsies, that is a pic of admiralty house, Kirribili is the smaller joint tucked in behind it. Grumpyyoungman01 22:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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Irrigation in Australia
I have reverted your requests for citations. The number was inappropriate - try the end of the paragraph not each sentence. In a t least one instance probably more, the facts were supported by cites already provided eg for your request did you check the reference note 3 which covered all the Chaffey assertions or note 7 which covered ythe Harvey irrigation scheme. If so please clarify what it was you found asserted and bnot covered by those cites - what words did you have difficulty with specifically? It was not clear from your edit which I see as merely disruptive given the lack of comment.--Golden Wattle talk 09:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I would suggest requesting a citation only at the end of a paragraph in the first instance, unless there is already a citation there which does not cover off the issue you feel requires verification. If you want to clarify what is needed in a citation, ie what you are requesting sources for, I recommend using comments ie tag with    to make it quite clear.  I prefer the use of cite but that's just me - I think it is less cryptic than cn. I don't think excessive citation is a good model but of course assertions should be covered by sources, particularly where it may be open to doubt.
 * For grapes, I suggest if you look at note 14 which is at the end of the section that covers the whole of the section.
 * The section on watersources could be referenced. It is mainly derived from other articles - eg Murray-Darling Basin which does not have inline cites but does have external links.
 * Perhaps instead of calling for cites though, it might be more constructive to help provide them? The relevant formats are:

Required parameters


 * url: URL of online item.
 * title: Title of online item.
 * date: Date (Month Day) when item was accessed. May be ISO 8601 YYYY-MM-DD format.
 * year: Year when item was accessed. (Optional if ISO 8601 date used)

Optional parameters


 * author: Author
 * publishyear: Date published.
 * format: Format, i.e. PDF. HTTP implied if not specified.
 * work: If this item is part of a larger work, name of that work.
 * publisher: Publisher, if any.


 * then to call on the same note later use in text:


 * and then to call them put in References section

Chana School
Thanks for taking a look at the artcle. : ) IvoShandor 18:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Most excellent, Ms. Cricket. Your help is greatly appreciated. IvoShandor 10:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, but I took the liberty of adding the LOCE banner to the talk page with your name as a copy editor. : ) IvoShandor 10:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Wondering. Would you mind doing a final proof on Rock Springs Massacre? Could you let me know what you think of the NPOV of the article? Does it look okay from that aspect? IvoShandor 10:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Josef Wallnig
Thank you for helping me with the signature. Now I know why it didn't work for me. Again, thanks! ♣ Tohru Honda13  ♣ 16:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

St Anne's College
Hi Cricketgirl - I'm curious on why you rated the St Anne's College article as Stub-class. I'd place it at start-class level myself, as it clearly contains rather more information than a "dictionary definition". Could you enlighten me? Or perhaps offer me some suggestions on things I can do to improve the article? Cheers, Stannered 22:41, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Cheers for that! Yep, I'm at St Anne's, and am in fact one of your Facebook friends (I suspected from the name, and confirmed from your user page - about a week ago when I noticed your reversion of vandalism on the War of 1812 article, which happens to be on my watchlist!) You sure you're not stalking me? ;o) Stannered 10:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Rock Springs Massacre
I'll take a look at it but probably won't be at odds with any of your changes. Thanks so much for doing this. IvoShandor 13:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I tweaked one sentence, the original was jacked up, you were right, see the intro....I figure it works now. : ) You totally rawk btw. Thanks. IvoShandor 15:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's an attempt at doing something with "rock." : ) IvoShandor 15:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I just wanted to thank you again for the truly thorough job you did with Rock Springs Massacre. You definitely earned that barnstar. I addressed your comments on the article talk page, if you had some specifics on the prior activity stuff please post those so I can alter accordingly. Thanks again. IvoShandor 07:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The article is now at GAC but it takes awhile to get reviews so any comments you have to add need not be rushed. IvoShandor 07:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for signing me up as a copyeditor -- I couldn't find the page to sign onto. Happy Holidays! Eilicea 20:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyediting
Hello. I see that you are a regular copyeditor therefore I wanted to ask if you wouldn't mind to take a look at 2012 Summer Olympics bids (52 kb). Since it is on FAC, it had two complete sweeps by a reviewer, but another one still thinks the prose is not professional enough to support it. I've also put a request on the WP:LoCE but I sense it will take a long time before it gets a writing-style review. I would appreciate all the help I can get. Cheers!  Parutakupiu  talk 02:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

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proofread, bitte
Please take a look at the University of Vienna page which I copyedited. My girlfriend translated portions of it from German. I had to restructure things, but hopefully you can spot problems in my rephrasing.

Meanwhile, I'm looking at Waite Hockin Stirling.

IGF,--Otheus 11:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Vielen dank! Otheus 12:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE! I NEED YOUR HELP!
I've created a page about Rodolfo Valentin, a celebrity hairdresser of New York, not only known by his high skills on hair, but also as a creator, inventor, good person and also as the new york hair society hairdresser since personalities of the jet-set are his following. It bothers To other hairdressers (that they don’t understand that those names are listed as a reference of “who Rodolfo Valentin is”), they are not listed for “advertisement” intentions, most of that people named has an article in wikipedia and they are linked. Also, in wikipedia it is not possible to right an article about somebody who is nobody (right?)…Rodolfo Valentin is the creator of the first hair prosthesis in the world in 1973. (The explanation about it is showing in the “discussion” page in his other article named “Sofia’s hair for health”), an organization that he creates in memory of his mother SOFIA giving free hair prosthesis for people who cannot afford to spend the $ 4,500 us dollars value. As I said above, all those good values of Rodolfo bother to the others hairdressers, and I am sure that they or their associates created most of the “spasm” in his article, and all the removals. For example, in his article was also a picture of Rodolfo with the Princess Yasmin Aga Khan, (a picture that I took myself with my camera) when I was at the Princess gala in memory of her mother the famous actress “Rita Hayward”. Somebody came and with the excuse of saying that it was copyrighted “removed” the picture completely! It is unfair; I still have the picture in my camera!! (Again: I feel that Rodolfo’s competitors removed it because it bothers them his high level reached in his career!). Now: they are questioning about the other picture that shows Rodolfo with Mrs.Catsimatidis (a New York socialite) with Ms. Milos, a famous greek actress that also has an article in wikipedia. Myself have also done this picture. I offered to them to send a signed statement by Mrs. Catsimatidis and Ms. Milos if necessary! Rodolfo Valentin is also the creator of his trademarked “Hair Infusion”, a damage free hair extensions technique that everybody is talking about. The editor of the Sunday Times of the UK, travels from London just to have it every three months! The following link is to her article where she is talking about in her page she mention Rodolfo at the beginning of the page and also scroll done because in the second page she continues talking about Rodolfo in the one named “My new best friend”… Her link is: http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:lOA6cMKWcRYJ:helenafrithpowell.com/index.php%3Fs%3Drodolfo%2Bvalentin+helena+frith+powell+rodolfo+valentin&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Also: as a proof that “The Hair Infusion” is a Rodolfo invention, please see it in the US trademark website, clearly showing that it has been invented and trademarked by RODOLFO VALENTIN and his partner. Please type in the search ‘THE HAIR INFUSION” and see by yourself. The link to the US TRADEMARK is: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=gu8kbj.1.1

Now another Wikipedian added the following to the article that was not there before:

This article or section does not adequately cite its references or sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. (help, get involved!) Any material not supported by sources may be challenged and removed at any time. This article has been tagged since April 2007.

It is really annoying, because I feel that Wekepedia is being handled by personal points of view not by reality, and it should be based in the true, and acceptance of the true. I found your name in the other article that my companion did about HAIR PROSTHESIS That article shows in the discussion page your name and that the “article or a portion of it, was copyedited by the League of Copyeditors in March 2007”.

I know that you are very busy, but PLEASE,I really need your knowledge to end this already upsetting situation that is creating a big frustration on me. Thank you very much! “Justice all the way”.

Again me, justice all the way
This is Justice all the way. Thank you very much! for your kindly response to my request. If everybody would answer or communicate like you, wikipedia will be a great place!. But no everybody is the same way. There is an administrator named GWERNOL that is constantly accusing me for everything I do!. This is the reason why I am not touching even my own articles! I am afraid to do it!. He is constantly menacing me and the way he communicates is really condemnable. You can see how he communicates and treats me with blocking me from access wikipedia! By reading his notes at the end of my discussion page. He notes are as follows: '''[edit] Sofia's Hair 4 Health Please don't add unsourced assertions to Wikipedia articles. You simply cannot just make the claim that Valentino was the first person to make prosthetic hair without also providing an independent source that readers can use to verify this information. Even if this fact is true and you can source it, what relevance does it have to the Sofia's Hair 4 Health article? Gwernol 20:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC) [edit] Final warning: Spam on Hair prosthesis''' '''This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, as you did to Hair prosthesis, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted as well, preventing anyone from linking to them from any site that uses the MediaWiki spam blacklist, which includes all of Wikimedia and Wikipedia. Gwernol 21:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)'''

As you can clearly see by reading his notes above, “how I will expand or add information or sources” if later he will came and practically abuse me! If I provide independent source for readers verify the information, he deletes it accusing me of advertisement and If I don't (because I am afraid to add things), he removes because I didn't provided independent sources? what I should do?


 * "the Hair Infusion" is simply one of scores of trademarks for hair extensions. ::It doesn't merit an article which you are construction as an advertisement.
 * Look what you did by creating a "hair prosthesis". it is an advert. Hair prosthesis is simply a health insurance or tax term for a wig. Walker42 22:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

As you said in your response, I would love to expand it and I have material to do it, but I am concern about his persecution with me, and I don’t understand the reason. Everything I add is “bad” for him!. I've a list of "independent sources", but I don't know if to add them or not!. he is menacing me with blocking me from editing wikipedia. It is normal? Thank you again! Justice all the way

Rock Springs Massacre
Thanks for all your help on Rock Springs Massacre, it got GA, some more work and onto FAC, woo hoo! IvoShandor 07:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Cricketgirl's UBX!
Hello, Cricketgirl! I'm Microchip08. As you have a lot of Userboxes on your Userpage, I thought you might like me to collapse them so they look neater, like this.

If you want this, simply type   instead of your userboxes.

Yours,

Microchip08 15:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Question about links
Hi!, you was very kind with me and I've a question. I would like to add in my article about "Rodolfo Valentin", the following:

"and performing as a hairdresser, starring in the movie “Sticky Fingers” directed by Justin Hova". the link to the New York Times is the proof of that statement:

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:ZdBn_soJPg4J:topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/b/beauty_salons/index.html%3Fquery%3DBIOGRAPHICAL%2520INFORMATION%26field%3Ddes%26match%3Dexact+sticky+fingers+rodolfo+valentin&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

but, how I do?, because then somebody will came and delete it!- I don't know where to add the link of the New York Times as a proof. Can you help me or do it for me?- ( I am also concern in to add the wrong tags)- Thank you! justice all the way 15:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC)justice all the way

re:Sofia Kovalevskaya
Hi Cricketgirl,

Thanks for your comments on my copyedit on SK. I looked over your changes and agree with all of them, they make the flow much smoother. I noticed the date linking you did, that was something I meant to do but it slipped my mind.

I did have a question about the wikilinking in the intro paragraph. I thought I read in the MoS that it was good to minimize wikilinking in the intro, was I mistaken or is that OK? I actually took out the ones that were there and put them in the terms used later in the article.


 * Actually, this is what I remembered. It's certainly not definitive, though. --killing sparrows 08:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, do you have any general advice for me as to style/copyediting that came to mind when you were proofreading the article? I always try to approach writing with a 'less is better' frame of mind, almost all your edits were of that nature, but 'encyclopedic style' is something new to me.

I'm going to do mostly bio articles for a while, they have many common features and I want to get the bio format down so that I can be faster and more efficient at this. Any constructive criticism would be much appreciated.

PS, As an American, I always thought cricket was the lamest game ever, but after spending the last 5 years living part-time in Nepal (where cricket is very popular) I have come to enjoy it!

Thanks! --killing sparrows 03:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Jeff Hanneman
Thanks for the ce :) M3tal H3ad 04:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Burghausen, Altoetting
Thanks for the memo. I left the original German in comments so it would be easier for a reviewer to check my translation. Thanks for checking it for me. Cbdorsett 11:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Redirects from misspellings
Hi! Thanks for getting involved with this page! When I noticed it a while ago it was rather neglected, so I'm glad to have some company there.--Xnuala (talk) 00:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Grammatical tiffs
Hey there! First, I'm really appreciative of your industrious efforts. I'd award you a barnstar, but I think it's a bit hokey for one copyeditor to award another. Second, you should consider a visit to Austria for your summer break, or at least a layover on your way home; Veronika and I will make you feel at home should you drop by near here.

Third I always make it a point to look over your copyedits and see what I missed or got wrong; thanks to you, I'm learning all things about that funny language of yours :) How did Eddie Izzard put it? "Two peoples separated by a common language." Anyway, here's my contention with you: "though" versus "although". I thought maybe "although" was more British; however this opinion mentions its merely more formal. Though I won't make it a hard-and-fast-rule, I'd prefer to stick to the less formal version for less formal topics of American lore, such as My Wife and Kids; Americans tend to find British grammar a bit "stuffy".

IGF, --Otheus 10:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * LOL, Editing "My Wife and Kids" over breakfast? Is that some kind of fad diet to make you anorexic? ;) "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" or something like that, so mimic away. IGF, Otheus 12:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Rock Springs Massacre
Hey there, see you're busy, exams? I was wondering if, when you have time, you could stop by Rock Springs Massacre, sign the template on the talk page and take another stab at a copy edit. The article is really quite different from the Good article version that you helped with, though most of the text from that version remains it has undergone a significant expansion as well as a structural overhaul. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time. IvoShandor 09:24, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Ananthapura Lake Temple
Hi, I saw your message at Pages needing translation into English regarding this page and went to help but I found that parts of it are copied verbatim from a website; so I added a    tag. Just thought I should let you know. - TwoOars ( T 20:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Welcome from the Opera Project
Hi, and thanks for signing on to the Opera Project - probably the most dynamic arts project on Wikipedia! Judging by your user page you could be our typo-salvation! We also have lots of German to translate if you have time to do it. Let me know if I can help at all. Best wishes. -- Kleinzach 08:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I have taken you up on your offer and left something on your desk. Good luck with your exams! Best wishes. -- Kleinzach 13:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Pasquale Anfossi
Terrific job. Thanks very much. I only had to do a little extra editing. I don't know whether you'd like to have a look at Max von Schillings next. This is actually a half-finished translation that someone abandoned. I'll add it to your list. Best. -- Kleinzach 02:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Max von Schillings
Excellent. Thanks very much. Didn't know about his politics! How about Aribert Reimann next when you have time? It's quite short. -- Kleinzach 00:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Udugov
Hi, I was so pissed off by Wikipedia because editing doesn't work well on political/historical/military issues. I'm planning to work since now on unpolitical articles, but please ask if you have any questions.

I was so pissed of by Russian and Polish community obnoxious editing that I managed to stay off wikipedia for entire year. Sigis

Kent‎ FAC
Hi. I'm sorry to bother you, but as a Wikiproject Grammar member, I just wondered if you would be willing to have a look through the Kent‎ article. It is currently a Featured Article Candidate and needs a copy-edit for grammar by someone who hasn't yet seen it. Any other ways to improve the article would also be welcome. Thank you very much, if you can. Epbr123 10:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You owe me a beer
Hi Cricketgirl,

You replaced Phillippines with Phillipines in Nacaduba berenice. You replaced Phillipines with Philippines in Discolampa ethion. Thanks for drawing attention to this typo. I'll take more care in future. But I do feel you owe me a beer since a typo on cp ed is not expected from a member of the League of Copy Writers. :-)

Regards, AshLin 15:22, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Urgent Help for Copy editing Kaziranga National Park in FAC
Kindly help in Copy editing Kaziranga National Park which is currently in FAC. I had put it up in WP:LOCE in April 2007, but still now no one have noticed. I need your urgent help in cpediting the article, as i am not so good in doing it. The article has no other issue but cpedit, i gurantee u that a fine refinement will help a lot. Amartyabag  TALK2ME  06:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Multiface
Thanks for the improvements! Always helpful to have another pair of eyes :)&mdash; Timotab Timothy (not Timdagnabbit!) 01:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Miranda Otto
thanks - I think that may have been one of my first copyedits :) &mdash; Timotab Timothy (not Timdagnabbit!) 03:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Impossible Princess
Thanks for looking over the Miranda Otto article. I was wondering if you could look over the article on Kylie Minogue's album Impossible Princess. I am hoping to nominate it for FAC soon and know that it could do with a good copy edit. Thanks so much! -- Underneath-it-All 03:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you!! :) - Underneath-it-All 14:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Necessity and Sufficiency
Thanks for checking out my changes and for your kind words. BTW, I've still not figured out very much about this [Wikipedia] culture... am I supposed to respond to you here or on my own page where you left your comment? — PaulTanenbaum 00:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: History of Stoke City
Hi. Thanks for your copy edit, I really appreciate the help. Dave101 →talk  16:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Henri Toivonen
Hey, great work with the copyedit. I was wondering when someone would take a look at this article, and now I even got two copyeditors. I think the death of Bettega is worthy of mention, because he was an Italian and Lancia was an Italian team, so it must have had quite an impact on the whole team. Bettega is also mentioned later in the article. Maybe the sentence needs to be phrased better, so it doesn't seem so out-of-place. Thanks, Prolog 11:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi - thanks for proofing (and for not mentioning that I had rather carelessly left the job hanging halfway through!).
 * I also have a fairly random Oz-related question. I'm working on the article Brabham BT19 at present (an old racing car, used by Australian Jack Brabham to win his third F1 world title). He used to refer to it as his 'Old Nail' - reviewers of the article have quite reasonably asked what that means, but all I have found is a fairly cryptic explanation by the designer of the car (See the article if you're interested). To me, an 'old nail' is an old-fashioned, tough, practical, but also possibly rather worn, 'thing', but I was wondering if it had any particular meaning in Australian English. 4u1e 08:20, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think you're probably right. There is in fact another race car bearing the same nickname (for similar reasons) and googling around you can find the term being applied to old, battered but still working cars, engines and motorbikes. All of which is OR, so I think I'll just have to leave it as it is. :( 4u1e 21:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Username
I love your username, it's adorable...! Dreadstar †  17:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for proofreading Asun Balzola. Have a nice wikibreak! --Lionni 09:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)