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Query on undo on "Pentagon UFO Videos" Article
Hey there! I did a pretty substantial edit on the previously mentioned articles not too long ago and you seemed to undo it (I dont disagree per say, I just want to understand more of what you said). The edit itself had substantial references citing legitimate news sources and multiple interviews with first hand witnesses. Some of the references were made on considerable unreliable sites, that I recognise, but a huge majority of those referenced interviews are pretty well trusted, not to mention they are verified and trusted by the pentagon and DOD who have started an investigation and even opened an abnormal aerial phenomena unit because of the incident.

Also, I attempted to remain as neutral as possible and am by no means on the "fringe" nor a conspiracy theorist. I have remained un-opinionated and just stated the facts as is. One of the section's titles: "Cover Up" can be seen as inappropriate as it is not proved and disputed; I respect that this must be changed.

Otherwise, I would like some clarification if thats ok. Please use my talk page. Thanks.

CringeFringe22 (talk) 17:37, 31 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi CringeFringe22. The short answer to your question is that Wikipedia editorial policies and guidelines such as WP:RS, WP:FRINGE and WP:FRIND limit or eliminate attention we can give to minority scientific views. In this case, the minority view is that the Pentagon UFO videos are evidence of alien/otherworldly/paranormal spacecraft, or do not have conventional explanations, or that conventional explanations are deprecated. WP:RS basically requires us to summarize what the highest quality, mainstream sources say about any given subject. Examples of reliable mainstream sources include Oxford University Press, most established scientific journals, and responsible media outlets like the NY Times and Washington Post. Examples of unreliable sources include Sailors Anthology Book I|, The See'r, Open Minds Forum, reddit.com/r/ufos, tothestarsacademy.com, imdb.com, Google drive docs, explorescu.org, YouTube, Joe Rogan, punkrockand ufos.com, abovetopsecret.com, sorrel.com — and others I probably missed. Another Wikipedia policy that might be relevant here is WP:SYNTHESIS. Basically, it says we can’t “build a case” for what we want to say by combining selected bits and pieces from otherwise reliable sources to conclude something the sources never concluded on their own. One other policy I should mention is WP:COPYVIO, which basically says we can't cut and paste text into Wikipedia that was written by others (except by complex licensing agreement), and instead must summarize the material in our own words. Hope this helps. Regards, - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:09, 31 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello User:CringeFringe22. Thank you for the message on my Talk page. I agree with everything written above by User:LuckyLouie. If I can add to it in any way, it would be to emphasize the fact that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that attempts, through the application of its many policies, to present information from only the highest quality, mainstream, independent sources. Toward achieving that lofty aim all editors, including you and me, should appreciate what Wikipedia is not, the fundamental features of which can be found at WP:NOT. I know that is a large amount of material to read and absorb. But I suspect that once you have read not only the entirety of that policy, but also the ones explicitly mentioned by LuckyLouie above, you will understand why I reverted your edit to Pentagon UFO videos. Please do read all of those policies. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 02:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)