User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 3

Feedback for 'List of people who have walked across Australia'
Crisco,

I have actioned the recommendations you made for the List of people who have walked across Australia. I would appreciate it if you could have another look when you get a chance. Cheers! Bezza84 (talk) 17:33, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Re:Agus Salim
Baik, akan saya coba. αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  12:49, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Sepertinya akan saya kembangkan besok saja setelah pulang sekolah, karena saya baru menemukan 3 sumber. Dan 2 di antaranya berbahasa Inggris, jadi agak lama untuk memahami isinya. αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  13:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

May 1998 riots
Just wanted to let know that I've made much progress on the Indonesian riots of May 1998 article. You might be interested in it since the Trisakti article you worked on is directly related. At the moment I'm using only one main source, but you're welcome to make additions if you have further information. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 09:00, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Your expansion looks very good so far (and I have the same book... took forever to arrive after I ordered it from Amazon) . I will try and add some information from my copy of Reka Ulang Kerusuhan Mei 1998 published by Tim Solidaritas Kasus Kerusuhan Mei 1998 (shame it's not available online) as well as some popular culture references (Putri Cina by Sindhunata, Clara and Jakarta 2039 by Seno Gumira Ajidarma, and a trilogy by Marga T at the very least). Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I have added some more information. I will try and add more later. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Three thousand characters. Not bad. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * We have reached five-fold expansion. Do you plan on adding this to DYK once we have it in reasonable shape? Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I will make the DYK nomination at some point, but first I'm going to clean up some of your additions. There are some references that need to go per the reliable sources guideline. I'd rather we be meticulous about this now than later because I also plan on taking this to the Good Article nomination process when we are done. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 19:22, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Really? Which ones? Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I must say your clean-up looks very nice. I didn't even know Setiono's monster of a book had been translated. This is quite an enjoyable collaboration. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I must say you seem to have an impressive collection of books on the subject. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:20, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The sources I'm looking to replace are:
 * Sekuntum Nozomi 3 oleh Marga T, Memperingati Sewindu Tragedi Mei 1998 and
 * Jakarta 2039: A Dark Comic's Reflections on May 1998.
 * They are personal websites with no editorial oversight. I've read Jakarta 2039, and I'm pretty sure I've seen more reliable references on it. I actually don't have that many books. I usually verify every source metadata with WorldCat, which is why I was able to tweak your reference metadata. If I were still on the Cornell University campus, I would have access to the actual Fact Finding Team report and a billion more things (literally maybe). Cornell Southeast Asia Program has the largest collection of materials on Indonesia in North America. (They pretty much buy everything.) That's how I was able to rewrite the Chinese Indonesians article. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 01:12, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, those. If you have any sources that are more reliable, I'd be much obliged. I haven't had a chance to go to Kompas' office to check their archives recently, so I don't have anything like the Hartiningsih article for them. Must be nice to have access to a library like that (I'm going on what I own personally, which coincidentally I bought for my final project), and thanks for the hint about WorldCat. I'll try using it next time. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:27, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I assume these events were your final project? I sent a reply to your e-mail, by the way. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 05:32, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * These events provide the historical background for my project (my project [skripsi] is about how different plot points and characterizations in Putri Cina reflect the riots and the major players). I have replied to your email with both files. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Would you like me to send you the Kompas articles I have? There may be more we can use, and I think it would be allowed under Article 14 letter c of the 2002 Indonesian copyright law. There are 88 articles in total, although I cannot guarantee that they will all be useful. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:52, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * If you find any that are interesting, I'll take a look at them, but 88 is just excessive. We don't want too much detail in an article. Between what we have now and the Tempo article, it's pretty good. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 07:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll screen them and then send the ones that look promising to you via e-mail (zipped, naturally). Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I have sent you 17 Kompas articles via e-mail. The Tempo article is apparently online, but I don't have the volume number. Sorry! Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:45, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The map is done. I wasn't able to reproduce the large map exactly. Instead, I used Google Maps to get the coordinates of all the locations described between pages 164 and 166 and placed them on the map. It's crude, and there may be some mistakes because even I haven't been to every corner of Jakarta, but I think it's a reasonable effort. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 09:31, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good. However, I'm worried that the map may be too big to be transcluded properly on some monitors (like mine, 1024x600px) . Thanks for doing that! Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, netbook resolution... Trimmed it down to 400px, like the Indonesia map. Unfortunately, it won't let me do percentage width. P.S.: I think I don't need talkbacks anymore. Your user page is on my watchlist. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 09:44, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I kinda had to replace the one I brought from Canada and didn't have much pocket change. I will see if I can find a width percentage parameter or something. K, feel free to erase the talkbacks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I've listed you as a co-author in the DYK nomination. By the time the article goes up on the main page, the content should be done. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 22:31, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. Shame I probably won't see it on the main page (I'll be in Lampung, and I don't know if I'll have a chance to go online). BTW: I've added a bit more about the riots in other cities. Cheers! Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:04, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, have fun there! I've been meaning to ask you. Where did you get all these sources? Did you just ask the newsdesks for their stories? If you're experienced in this area, it would be very helpful if you could request copyright(left) permissions for some photos. Many articles are in need of graphics. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 08:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I got the articles and reports straight from the publishers. I ordered the Tempo articles (in PDF form) from their offices in Jakarta, the two reports from Solidaritas Nusa Bangsa's offices in Jakarta, and I got the Kompas articles from their office in Yogya. I do not know if they would be willing to release images under a copyleft license, but I could try to have a look and see what I can do. Any subjects in particular? Shame I didn't go on the class trip to Tempo office in Jakarta last December! Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:44, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've sent an e-mail to Tempo. I will try Bernas or Kompas offices next week. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Vinea summer camp
Hi Crisco--do you mind having another look at the article? I added all the references I could find. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:59, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Crisco. Might I say, you seem like a knowledgeable editor, and pleasant to work with. Keep hanging with the Lady and you won't go wrong. Drmies (talk) 03:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Drmies. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:44, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Re:Adoptasi
Boleh lah, lagi pula saya belum mengerti sepenuhnya tentang wikipedia, apa lagi yang bahasa Inggris. αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  07:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, kalau musik saya tertarik dengan perkembangan musik Indonesia dan ingin dimasukkan di Wikipedia bahasa Inggris. Saya juga biasanya menerjemahkan artikel film dari Wikipedia bahasa Inggris ke Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia. Saya 'kan lebih muda dari Anda, panggil saja Dik, atau langsung nama saja. αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  07:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Saya kaku soalnya Anda kan orang asing, apa lagi tinggalnya bukan di Jakarta, saya takut jika saya menggunakan bahasa yang biasa digunakan untuk percakapan Anda bingung. Bingung ga? hehehe αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  07:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Oiya, kalo thesis bisa jadi sumber ga? Link downloadnya dari sini αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  07:47, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Wah, udah dibuat tugasnya :). Kayaknya saya selesaikan artikel Agus Salim dulu deh. Tanggung soalnya. αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  08:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Mas Crisco (wah, orang bule dipanggil mas :-p), bisa ga melanjutkan artikel Agus Salim dari sumber yang thesis tadi? Saya jenuh soalnya, pakai bahasa Inggris sih, hehehe αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  11:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * DYK buat artikel apa? αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  13:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh, bisa ya? Kirain cuma buat artikel baru. Mas Chrisye saja deh. αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  13:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yang menyebut Agus Salim ulama intelek Suharto atau Sukarno? (soalnya di artikel Suharto, tapi di DYK Sukarno). αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  14:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Keep up the good work!
Terima kasih banyak, thank you for classifying Indonesian-related articles (I'm too lazy to do that... hehe..) and your significant contributions on Indonesia-related articles.

Ini oleh-oleh Asinan Betawi dari Jakarta... . Keep up the good work..! Salam kenal dan tetap semangat! Cheers! :) (Gunkarta (talk) 15:18, 10 June 2011 (UTC))

Please help
Ali beg keeps running away. Can you please help?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Not exacly, unless you want to say that Ahmad messed around with Mrs. Isakovic behind his back.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ali beg was third son of Isa Beg Isakovic.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:06, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. I will try to lear how use that template. If I don't succeed I will delete family tree. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Redirects
I just realized that you may not know about Special:ListRedirects, so I wanted to point it out. — V = IR (Talk&thinsp;&bull;&thinsp;Contribs) 16:53, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You are right; I didn't. Yet another bookmark. That folder is getting full Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Senyawa
Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jurang Pemisah
Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sabda Alam
Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Konser Tur 2001
Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Dekade
Materialscientist (talk) 18:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I understand
I understand if someone's busy. But in this specific situation, what's more likely, that he was just busy, or that he was attending to a personal matter (in this case a personal project). It took about 2 or 3 days for him to respond; and only after I complained about him. And another thing, he's not just any old person, he's an administrator that I specifically went to for advice. That article that he was spending so much time on wasn't going anywhere. He could have gotten back to it after he helped me resolve my issue. Was I supposed to wait 3 more days. I understand now that what I was wondering about was something so basic. But the problem with me is that sometimes I don't know where to find things like what he pointed out. So, do I still have a point? Was he not, not, being attentive as an administrator? That has to fall under something because the bottom line is that that was annoying, and I can see how someone else would find that annoying too if they were in that situation. Please tell me what you think. Lighthead (talk) 02:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

But I first came to him on his talk page. Unless you're referring to the Drum and Bass talk page. If that's the case how was I supposed to have him see that, miraculously? No I understand about that, but I let him know on his talk page. And as anyone on Wikipedia knows you have to step over that message at the top before doing anything else. Lighthead (talk) 02:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that's true. It makes sense, I'll take your advice. Thanks for your help. Lighthead (talk) 02:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Status
I wanted to ask you a question on another note. I put that status bot thing on my user page, and yeah there's a green light at the top of the search bar, but on my userpage it says status unknown, how do I fix that (I'm not tech savvy)?

Lighthead (talk) 02:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'm using your advice, did you see what I put? Ha ha ha! Maybe you're not online; I'll check after I'm finished. Lighthead (talk) 03:35, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

You're actually on your trip, I'll let you get to that. Sorry! Lighthead (talk) 03:40, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I think you just about got it working. I'll let you know if I run into any problems with it. And thanks again for helping me with the former, I really appreciate it. Thanks! Lighthead (talk) 04:00, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

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Adoptasi
αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  07:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC) Jadi harus dikerjakan? Okelah kalau begitu. αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  07:16, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Theleftorium (talk) 11:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Koentjaraningrat
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

T:TDYK
Please check. I have made the amends. Redtigerxyz Talk 15:52, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Create new music article
Bisa kasih tau situs terpercaya tentang musik ga Mas? αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  02:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Tolong nilai artikel ini untuk menyelesaikan 2a. :) αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  04:12, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Bisa bantu ga? Saya agak bingung, di sini Bowie masuk tahun 2007 bersamaan dengan perilisan album Turn It On, tapi di sini Bowie masuk tahun 2008. αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  04:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Jadi, Bowie masuk tahun berapa? αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  04:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Oke. αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  05:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Sekarang bagaimana? αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  06:07, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Bisa langsung lompat ya? αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  06:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Bagaimana pengusulannya? αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  07:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Kick Andy
Infobox yang pas untuk Kick Andy apa ya? αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  09:07, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oke, terima kasih. αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  09:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Wardah Hafidz
-- Calmer  Waters  19:09, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bambang Harymurti
Materialscientist (talk) 00:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK
Tanya masalah DYK nih. Maksudnya dari: " If it is ok with the author he can notify me for the tag.  CrossTempleJay   →  talk 16:14, 12 June 2011 (UTC) " apa ya? αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  07:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Kalau menyetujui ALT2 Mas Crisco? αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  07:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Mau tanya lagi nih (Maaf banget ya kalau terlalu banyak bertanya), wawancara kayak gini bisa buat sumber ga? Bahasanya Melayu/Malaysia, bukan Indonesia. αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  08:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Kayaknya cuma pembentukan band sama aliran musik deh. αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  08:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Kalau website kayaknya mereka belum punya. αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  09:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Saya bingung mau tambah info apa lagi di sini. Artikel kayak begitu bisa bertahan ga di Wikipedia? αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  11:21, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Ya sudah, tolong rapikan. Wah, karena kemampuan berbahasa Inggris saya kurang, saya membuat Anda bekerja lebih banyak ya. Omong-omong yang di bawah menyindir penggunaan bahasa Indonesia di talkpage ya? Ralat bila saya salah. αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  12:53, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Deceptive
Semi wiki break? nah - the going to talk pages of Indonesian subjects means youve been busy fiddling with the Indonesian project assessments - and as long as you can read this in english sense and you are not too tuned to nuances in Indonesian context - well done - thanks for helping improve the Indonesian project! SatuSuro 11:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thats ok - this place can get quite thankless at times - your effort like that of boneyard's at the death project are - for me positive signs that people can take the baton when some of us oldies get distracted by real life and other things - and so many flutter away from the big project altogether - too often - so its good to see some activity on the watchlist SatuSuro 13:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh dear - my edits are very low compared to a few years back - and hey there is so much to fixup in the Indonesian project - it needs about 4 - 5 active regular eds communicating in both languages bhs ind and inggeris with at least one admin - to ever get it a cleanup it might take it to a worthy status - but most projects have ups and downs - maybe it will come good again one day - cheers SatuSuro 13:42, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ahmad Taufik
Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Tomy Winata
Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 June 2011
Read this Signpost in full &middot; Single-page &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; EdwardsBot (talk) 00:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Sable Saanen
I have removed the prod tag from Sable Saanen, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the prod template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks! TerriersFan (talk) 21:21, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

User page layout
I adopted your user page layout on my user page. I hope you don't mind. My page was a mess, and I didn't have the skills to fix the formatting from scratch.--Bkwillwm (talk) 03:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

UNDG
Hey at least I expanded the UNDG article from nothing to some standard. Bare URLs is because it is a hardly mentioned agency. Do you know anything about it?Other dictionaries are better (talk) 08:51, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Pertemuan Jodoh
Hi! Can you expand?♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

OK! While in Lampung can you try to photograph some of the regencies and towns/village and landmarks. I can start/improve the articles then when you get back! Have a well deserved break!♦ Dr. Blofeld  23:01, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Great. I'll look into doing some work on it tomorrow. Should be interesting. Can I ask what area you are staying at?♦ Dr. Blofeld  23:20, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Pulau Legundi for starters, just off Bandar Lampung.♦ Dr. Blofeld  23:30, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you think we should use Indonesia names Pulau .. or ... Island? I've started Tabuan Island. The think is most publications call it Pulau Tabuan.♦ Dr. Blofeld  00:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Excellent work! Any chance you could visit CFC and take a few photos of it for the wikipedia article? It would be much better with a photo or two!♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:44, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Protected (Left Behind: The Kids)
Hi, I have declined the Prod on Protected (Left Behind: The Kids) and others. This has the same issues as discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taken (Left Behind: The Kids). There are many similar articles and the way forward would seem to be to merge them all into the main page, TerriersFan (talk) 22:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for May 1998 riots of Indonesia
Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Rail and Pitta
I'll try the Rail article, but getting enough for a 5x expansion might be iffy. But I'll try. Can you look at the alt proposal for my Pitta nom at DYK? Thanks.BarkingMoon (talk) 01:32, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Tks. Perhaps another approval icon would help it get selected. BarkingMoon (talk) 01:56, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Schaeffer Oil
Thank you for your feedback. I will incorporate your suggestions in the coming days. Best, Jencgaby (talk) 15:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Agus Salim
Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 17 June 2011 (UTC)