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List of plantations in West Virginia
Crisco, I see that you're an active FA contributor and I wanted to seek your guidance on whether my article List of plantations in West Virginia would be eligible for a featured list review nomination. If you could please scan the article, and let me know if there is anything I can do to improve it so that I can nominate it, I would greatly appreciate it! -- Caponer (talk) 17:26, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Only thing I can see (with a very quick scroll) is that the lede is a bit length. 3500 characters would probably be more appropriate. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:53, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Crisco! I'll see about slimming it down a bit! -- Caponer (talk) 08:48, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:55, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014
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 * * Poesaka Terpendam   (Buried Heritage; 1941)

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 * horse. The film was still incomplete when the Japanese occupation of the Dutch East Indies began in March 1942,

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 * [Brussels]] (including the Église Royale Sainte-Marie), Bruges, Amsterdam and elsewhere, and his work was commissioned also for France, Italy and England. At the [[Exposition

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 * a film company, to write a "sensational" story which could be used as the basis for a movie. efn|No film with a similar title is recorded; compare the list of films of the Dutch East Indies

piece of string
how long...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_in_Indonesia at what point is it worth protecting from the garbage... satusuro 09:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Watchlisted. Right now it's not regular enough to warrant protection. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:30, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * sheesh youre brave... [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unassessed_Indonesia_articles] it used to be huge... satusuro 15:58, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * There we go, I knew I was missing something. Yeah, I got most of those ... what, two years ago? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * the soccer enthusiast added some flagrcruft potential recently, needs a once over - will email the link or fb satusuro 10:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Shit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:37, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Poesaka Terpendam
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lafayette dollar
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I got another, three-cent nickel.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:10, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That is... awesome. How about Did you know "... that a nickel was valued at three cents before it was valued at five?" or "... that nickel has meant one, three, and five cents over the past 150 years?", or "... that the three-cent nickel was once more common than the five-cent one?" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:28, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Need to talk about a photo
This might run a bit long. Not sure if you have the time, so won't go into the details unless you do. Thanks, We hope (talk) 01:44, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've got plenty of time, so long as it doesn't have to be right now. Tonight (UTC+7) is all free time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:52, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * All-righty-about a year or more ago, we ran into a copy of this photo. It had a Metronome magazine stamp on the back and it was thought to have been taken by the magazine and run in one of their copyright renewed issues, so no-go.


 * The one at the link was received by a newspaper and published in March 1952. Getty shows 2 of these with no copyright info-1 for Metronome and 1 for Michael Ochs Archives. Both claim the photo is circa 1955; Metronome didn't take the photo and neither did Michael Ochs. What we see is his music photo collection online there.


 * I think the origin of the photo is Columbia Records, but nothing seems to be able to lead me back there; the newpaper copy has nothing but work stamps & notes from the paper's publication. The UPenn books show no copyright registrations for photos for Jo Stafford in 1952, period--nothing by either Metronome or Columbia. Bottom line is: can we use this as a PD photo to illustrate the couple working together? Thanks for even thinking about this! We hope (talk) 02:27, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it is. To check the year, we can try and track down when "Ay-Round the Corner" was released; if this is from a recording session, then it has to be before that date. That will help check for copyright registrations, in case 1952 was incorrect. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:12, 9 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Billboard page 46, February 23, 1952-"Ay -Round The Corner" She moved to Columbia in 1950.  Have checked the UPenn registrations for 1950 and 1951 now, and there's nothing there for Jo Stafford, Columbia Records or Metronome. We hope (talk) 15:06, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd say that's good enough for me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:07, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Now the problem will be Paul's--figuring out where to put it after I get it uploaded :) Thanks!!! We hope (talk) 15:09, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

FP: File:Bathyacmaea secunda-en.svg
Hey there, Crisco! This image of mine finally made it through FP candidacy on the English WP (second go). Was wondering if it would be greedy of me to ask for it to appear on the MP in the not-too-distant future. Please advise. Thank you! KDS 4444 Talk  02:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * When did your last diagram go through? I'm thinking November, but I don't quite recall. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * 'Twas the 12th of October that my diagram of a male nematode went through. Am I too soon?  KDS 4444  Talk  00:15, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That would make it four months, give or take. No, that's plenty of time. Scheduled for January 27 (you can do the blurb if you want). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Super! Glad to hear it.  How/ where can I do the blurb?  Please advise.  Thanks!  KDS 4444  Talk  17:30, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Uncle David FAC
Hey Crisco; just to let you know that Uncle David has been resubmitted to FAC, if you have the time or the inclination to take a look at any point. If not, no worries, but it would be appreciated, and I think that you'd find it an interesting article. All the best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll try to get there within 24 hours. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:37, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Pearsall (architect)
Hi. I see you recently promoted the above DYK, but it is partially inaccurate and has been superseded by events, as noted on the DYK talk page - where I have proposed a slightly amended wording. Hope this can be updated accordingly. Paul W (talk) 10:34, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks for pinging me.. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:10, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Queue 4 issues (including lead hook!)
Crisco, can you take care of the two pending issues that affect Queue 4? Sasata has posted at WT:DYK that the lead hook is problematic, and Yoninah has pointed out that the Queue 5 hook about an orthodox rabbi in LA is going to run during the Sabbath, when orthodox Jews there can't use technology (among other things) and so won't be able to see the hook on the main page. Swapping the rabbi hook to Queue 4 means it runs before local sundown on Friday (when the Sabbath starts). Thanks. (PS: Just did a little more work on the Pearsall hook, since he only designed the extension to the fire station that just closed, not the original building.) BlueMoonset (talk) 11:32, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * How's this? I don't think 6 hooks in Q 4 is an issue, as those are mostly longer hooks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:39, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I suppose you could grab one of the shorter hooks from prep 1 to make a seventh, but if you don't think it's necessary, I'm not going to sweat it. BlueMoonset (talk) 12:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * BTW, I took care of unpromoting the mushroom hook template, and added it to the Removed page. I also notified the nominator of the need to come up with a new hook for it. BlueMoonset (talk) 12:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Sorry, got distracted. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:33, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Holiday Cheer
12:34, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

National Press Monument
12:34, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey!
Hey! Happy new year :) Would you mind taking a look at my latest FAC? — ΛΧΣ 21 Call me Hahc21 16:52, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I can do anything today. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

66th Oscars ('94)
Hello there,

I've returned to improve more lists. I understand your busy schedule, but would you please take a look at the 66th Academy Awards and proofread it for errors regarding Featured list candidates/66th Academy Awards/archive1. I would appreciate the help a lot.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 23:31, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I will likely get to it as a delegate, though that would mean I could not support the nomination and still expect to close it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Koeda Sembrani
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

ITN
Hi Crisco- I submitted my first ever ITN (for 10 Jan). If you have a chance could you make sure I did it correctly. Many thanks-Godot13 (talk) 03:00, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not very active there, but my first impression is you are trying to give too much information. The blurb should be short and sweet. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:08, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I will revise...-Godot13 (talk) 03:10, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Just saw your blurb... much better, thank you.Godot13 (talk) 03:12, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Undangan diskusi id:Wikipedia:Artikel pilihan/Usulan/Angkor Wat
Mohon kiranya Anda dapat berpartisipasi lebih lanjut untuk memberikan komentar, pendapat, ataupun saran di sini.

Terima kasih dan salam sejahtera. --Erik Fastman (talk) 05:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

V quick image check?
Hi Crisco, Can I ask for a very quick image check? I think both should be OK - one is present on a recent FA, so will have been done already. They are on my new FLC Bibliography of Sax Rohmer. Sadly none of the man himself or his books (he died in '59), so I've had to be flexible when finding some forms of illustration on this one! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:39, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Fix your date parameters. That's all. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Many thanks - all now sorted. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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Asmara Moerni
Bang Woodrich, dimohon untuk memberikan suara di sini. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:28, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Maaf Bang Woodrich, kalau ingin memberikan suara seperti ini: (tag setuju) bukan tulisan setuju yang ditebalkan. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:45, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of National Press Monument
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article National Press Monument you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ТимофейЛееСуда -- 15:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Hadidjah
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:23, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Help with DYK
I wouldn't normally have jumped the queue like this, especially not since I'm the one who nominated it, but it was reviewed and approved by other people, and it is very time-sensitive, and I am nearly collapsing from how tired I am and the instructions for how to continue with the various minutiae of updating the queue and so forth are starting to blur for me so I'm going to ask you, please, if you can finish with the procedure of updating the queue so that this goes onto the main page in the update at 11 AM Eastern time on January 11 2014 please and thank you I'm also going to ask some of the other admins who work on the DYK area also and I am so tired thank you in advance. DS (talk) 06:40, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I'll take care of it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:44, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. DS (talk) 12:36, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, and here is the result of your assistance. Again, thank you. DS (talk) 21:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Roekiah
Guess I'm getting slow in my old age; I was about to hunt down the review page to see what I could add you'd only gone and gotten it promoted already! I did say I'd review it so I figure I should see if you've anything else sitting waiting on a review that I could handle for you. GRAPPLE  X  22:56, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Asmara Moerni is up, if you want to have a go. Hope my comments on the novel were useful! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, good, I'll get tackling that one then. And yes, they were, thanks! It's always good to hear from someone who's not the missus. :P GRAPPLE   X  23:06, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL! I hear ya — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of National Press Monument
The article National Press Monument you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:National Press Monument for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ТимофейЛееСуда -- 05:32, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Samsung Galaxy tab 3
Oh god. I was using my new tablet. It's so fiddly! I thought I was just looking at the history! Thanks, Crisco. Bishonen &#124; talk 12:04, 12 January 2014 (UTC).
 * No worries, Bish. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Request for input
Do you think I could borrow you to take a look here? I tend to think that when editors decline to make a Requested Edit, it is because it is a bad request to make. Editors seem very reluctant to actually decline them. However in this case the editor has specifically stated this is not the case. CorporateM (Talk) 13:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:37, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey Crisco. To the best of my knowledge, I have not seen any reviews of specific products that would help improve that section. However, user:EdJohnston has previously mentioned that the article could use some content about how SAS compares to competitors (I presume in a different section). I agree, but do not feel comfortable authoring it myself.


 * As an example, the first reliable source I found in a peer-reviewed journal said SAS is better than STATA at analysis of variance (ANOVA) techniques, however SAS and myself find it inappropriate for us to add disparaging remarks about competitors on Wikipedia.


 * From my perspective, as a COI participant I am only one part of the ecosystem and often abstaining from a specific topic is the most appropriate conduct, as it is here. If you feel uncomfortable adding the Product section without the expectation of reviews/comparisons being added as well, then I think the next step is just for me to wait (whether it be months or years) for a regular disinterested editor to take an interest in writing a review and comparison section.  CorporateM (Talk) 16:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I could write a section / paragraph, if necessary (you're obviously shooting for GA, so waiting is probably not a fun game) though a couple sources to help me write it would help greatly. SAS does, after all, have a very common name, and sources are liable to be swamped with the British Special Forces. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably the golden nugget I've noticed was this. I haven't read it, but it is from a peer-reviewed journal. (I think this source is summarizing it) While not as formal this site looks neutral and is from a university. This could be admissable as an expert source, but would probably be pushing RS. There's some detailed pricing comparisons here and here.


 * There's also stuff like this that reviews individual components. While Enterprise Miner is a key one, I think there are 200 components (or something like that). We could probably only practically cover some broad generalizations about the software suite in general as oppose to a detailed analysis of individual components.  CorporateM (Talk) 23:32, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll see if I can get a paragraph or two done after I teach. A link to Comparison of statistical packages would be invaluable, of course. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:44, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * CorporateM, I've added two paragraphs. Any thoughts? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:59, 12 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it was user:North8000 who said perfection is the enemy of progress. While I must edit cautiously, if at all, I always encourage other editors to edit the normal way and without asking me to sanction the material. But since you ask, I'll gruelingly tear it apart ;-)


 * The first sentence is a little unclear as it could be interpreted to mean that "the comparison...[is]...from SAS" as if SAS is the author of the comparison. I would suggest stating who Alan is, or if no information is available, citing the journal instead of the author. There is some condensing that I think is possible, in particular where two competitors compare to SAS in a similar way. "tout" may not be an encyclopedic word. We should almost always say "said" or "stated" rather than "admitted" or "claimed". I think by "does not charge large initial fees" what you mean is that the pricing is "weighted" lighter in that area and heavier in subscription fees. To members of the general public reading Wikipedia, the fees any F500 pays for analytics software would probably seem quite large.


 * That's all I got! I think it's best to just roll with whatever you think is best though. CorporateM (Talk) 06:47, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Perfection may be the enemy of progress, but going forward blindly only ensures you walk off a cliff . Alright, I've copyedited based on your comments here and merged into the article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:56, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much!!! CorporateM (Talk) 14:31, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't mention it. Good luck with the GAN. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:37, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Jill Kelley image
The image that was added to Jill Kelley is NOT COPYRIGHT PROTECTED. It is from her Facebook page - https://m.facebook.com/jill.kelley.1865?__user=100005023052795 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legaledits13 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Please understand that the picture IS mine. I took the original. Can you tell me how to proceed? Legaledits13 (talk) 15:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC) legaledits13

my watchlist
is positively flowing with the ethnic issue (in the form of a template) once again - suspect the ed needs watching closely... satusuro 04:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Noticed. They're going to need a bigger template for the ethnic groups in Indonesia. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:12, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Asking for a favour
Hey Crisco, I have a favour to ask. I made a DYK nomination: Template:Did you know nominations/Tianyi Film Company, which is time-sensitive as it's a tie-in with the recent death of Sir Run Run Shaw. As you're familiar with the topic, would you be willing to review the nomination? Thanks a lot! -Zanhe (talk) 00:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, I owe you one anyways. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:04, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That was fast. Thanks a lot! -Zanhe (talk) 03:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL. Woulda been faster if I were at home when you pinged me. K, looks good. (BTW, an article on the Shanghai film industry would be really useful if you have the sources... I hear some of the old studio buildings are still extant, though repurposed). Interesting how a lot of them migrated to the Indies and Malaya... the Shaws in Singapore, the Wongs in Batavia, and a few actors and actresses too (Herman Sim in Si Pitoeng and Olive Young in Resia Boroboedoer... I think I have enough for an article on the last one, too). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:51, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I'll eventually write an article for the Shanghai film industry, unless someone else does it first. The problem is not the lack of sources, but too much information. It'll be a daunting task to write a comprehensive article. For the time being I'll focus on the easier task of writing about individual actors and filmmakers. -Zanhe (talk) 04:37, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice. More or less why I have yet to write an article on the film industry of the Indies. I think I have most of what I need already here, it's just a matter of whittling everything down to 30k characters or so. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:41, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Question
Could you take a look at The Bold Bank Robbery for me? It's my next FAC after Brown hopefully passes. Do you think it has a chance?  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 03:05, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * First things first, as the film has reportedly been digitized I'd try and hunt down a copy (I actually tried, but couldn't find it). It's certainly public domain, and the simple reproduction of it on DVD is not enough for a new copyright under US law. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, I own the DVD that it's on. I'll see how to go about dumping it to Commons.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 03:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I usually rip using WinX DVD ripper platinum, then convert using Aiseesoft, if that's any help. The video can be placed like at A Free Ride (NSFW), or in the plot section. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:13, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW, Taylor, if you rip and convert at the maximum quality, you can upload it to commons using batch uploading. That could allow for the film to be nominated at WP:FPC, giving the article two opportunities to get on the MP. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Petruk
The DYK project (nominate) 09:07, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Morning.


Wikimacarena Hafspajen (talk) 21:43, 12 January 2014 (UTC) Hafspajen (talk) 09:55, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't recall English, but... oh my. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Evening for me. :p A wet evening. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:04, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * How wet and hot? Hafspajen (talk) 10:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I was soaked in 3 minutes earlier, and right now it's only warm... maybe 25-ish? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Gosh, really? That is very different from Swedish january about 30 F (-1C). Hafspajen (talk) 11:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've never felt the temps here drop below 15 C. Makes me even gladder that I haven't returned to Canada in almost 4 years. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, we are -3C here but bright and sunny., maybe Crisco can help with how to transfer the Kuvasz images you want from the Romanian and Hungarian wikipedias (this one too)? I've looked all morning again, going through the help/instructions, and still can't work out what to do.  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  11:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Foggy here. You know what, Sagaciousphil, Crisco could be our man! Hafspajen (talk) 11:26, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll try and take a look later, though to be honest I'm not that good at migrating files either. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:34, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, please try, othewise Sagaciousphil and I will soon get a nervous breakdown, thanks to some new user shouting for wavy dogs. Hafspajen (talk) 11:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, trying to upload with CommonsHelper. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:16, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I've uploaded File:Kuvasz named Kan.jpg. The sourcing on the other is too poor. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:28, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Crisco!! Hafspajen (talk) 17:59, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: Sudirman
This is a note to let the main editors of Sudirman know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on January 24, 2014. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/January 24, 2014. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Sudirman (1916–50) was a high-ranking military officer during the Indonesian National Revolution. The first commander-in-chief of the Indonesian Armed Forces, he was declared a National Hero in 1964. A teacher when the Japanese occupied the Indies in 1942, he joined the Japanese-sponsored Defenders of the Homeland and oversaw the Japanese surrender in Banyumas after Indonesia proclaimed its independence. Elected commander-in-chief in November 1945, he ordered an assault on British and Dutch forces at Ambarawa, strengthening his popular support. During the next three years negotiations with the Dutch failed and in December 1948 the Dutch tried to capture Yogyakarta. While the political leadership sheltered, Sudirman led a small group of soldiers in a seven-month guerrilla campaign. When the Dutch began withdrawing, he wanted to continue fighting them but was forbidden. Sudirman retired because of illness and died soon after the Dutch recognised Indonesia's independence. His guerrilla campaign has been credited with developing the army's esprit de corps, and the 100 km long route he took must be followed by Indonesian cadets before graduation. UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, I guess that's okay. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, er, okay? the number of monumen monumen is enough surely? satusuro 00:56, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I should hope so. Probably more monuments to Sudirman than there are students in the average school. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Tom Wills
Sigh, yes, it seems that I should not have started the Review page if I wasn't able to fully review it. Sometimes I miss the old days of Wikipedia when it was an actual human editor who did the clean up work and they could actually read the message you left stating you weren't reviewing the article... --Roisterer (talk) 05:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

The cool editor award

 * Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:50, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to add my thanks for your assistance, Crisco - it's very much appreciated!  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  15:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad to help! — Crisco 1492 (talk)

Abe Waddington
If you have the time or inclination, I'd appreciate your thoughts on Abe Waddington. It had a peer review quite a long time ago and has changed a lot since then thanks to some useful sources. I'm wondering if it is worth having a stab at FAC. Any comments on the talk page would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if you have anything coming up which I can help with. Sarastro1 (talk) 22:08, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. Do you have a PR open, or do you want me to just post on the talk page? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:51, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The talk page would be best, I think. Thanks. Sarastro1 (talk) 23:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll stop by later. As today is Mawlid, don't have any RL things to do. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:06, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments. I've got them all, I think, but I semi-reverted one of your changes to the bowling figures. I left an explanatory note on the talk page. Sarastro1 (talk) 18:41, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

File:Rouge gorge familier - crop (WB correction).jpg
The file, File:Rouge gorge familier - crop (WB correction).jpg, was involved in the trial of Bots/Requests for approval/TFA Protector Bot 2. There was an error by restoring the history of the page, and than fixed this incorrectly, but restoring the local file and now the Commons description isn't shining through. Could you delete the local file? Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 02:58, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Got it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:11, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * . Armbrust The Homunculus 11:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:43, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lief Java
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

World record price for a banknote
Hi Crisco- I know you didn't actually vote (only a comment) but I wanted to let you know that new mainstream sources have been added (including ABC News) and a correction made (record price for any banknote, not just US), just FYI. Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 05:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll drop by. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:25, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Prep to Queue in next 25 minutes?
Crisco, I see you're out of town for a seminar, but I came here because you'd been editing within the past 20 minutes. We have two preps but no queues, and the next set goes up in about 25 minutes only if a queue is filled. If you're around, any chance of doing the move? Many thanks, if so. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Done, very quickly. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:48, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and bravo! BlueMoonset (talk) 22:55, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Si Gomar
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Advice on getting a higher resolution?
Hey! Firstly, thanks for the quick response at FP, and the clear feedback about what needs to be done. This is my first time nominating an image to FP, and even though it was speedily rejected, I had a very good newbie user experience.

I knew the size would be a problem, but read that you sometimes make exceptions for "historical or otherwise unique images, if no higher resolution could realistically be acquired."

So, my first question is if you have any advice on how I could acquire a higher resolution image. One answer would be to seek one from the original office that created the image, but that may prove impossible. Another answer might be to have an expert recreate the image as an svg, although I'm not sure if that would be allowed. You do this all the time--do you have any other ideas?

Secondly, I'm a newbie to FP but an oldie to WP. I know sometimes as speedy close is merely indicative of one problem out of many. If I got my hands on a high resolution copy of the image, do you you think there's a good change it might survive FP? or are there other problems beyond just resolution, do you think?

Thanks again for you quick assessment and NotBiting the newbie :) --HectorMoffet (talk) 10:59, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Recreating the logo as an SVG would certainly be doable, though that's nowhere near my field (I don't think I've ever been able to make a good SVG). There are people at the Image Lab (this page) who do SVGs based on JPGs, so that would be workable.
 * Getting an SVG would definitely give you a fighting chance at FPC, but it should be noted that reviewers generally expect a lot from SVG versions of logos. This one might get support, but not any old SVG stands a chance. It's really hard to predict how a particular FPC will run (case in point, the space selfie at the bottom of the page; I didn't expect it to be delayed because of copyright concerns).
 * I hope that was helpful. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:18, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey! So I got on the horn and tracked down a scan of the physical patch.   It's about 900px square (so, like 12x the old version).   Because of the "pixelation" inherent in a stitched patch, increasing the scan resolution beyond 900px doesn't increase the quality of the image.
 * Do you think it would be appropriate to re-nominate this as FP? or would that be frowned upon? --HectorMoffet (talk) 14:33, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It would still be under-sized. If the design of the patch is what you are hoping to have promoted, SVG is the way to go. If the patch itself is what you're looking for, a higher quality scan / photograph would be required. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:11, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Valley View DYK
Good day Crisco, I know it would be a bit of an inconvenience, but would it be possible to pull Template:Did you know nominations/Valley View (Romney, West Virginia) from the Prep 2 queue and return it to the nominations page? I'm still working to locate an image for the hook, and forgot to note this on the article's nomination template. If this is possible, I'd greatly appreciate it, and I apologize for the trouble. I'll cross post this request with other DYK administrators. Thanks again! -- Caponer (talk) 10:57, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn to prep. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:19, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you Crisco! I owe you one! -- Caponer (talk) 21:48, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mohamad Mochtar
Orlady (talk) 00:02, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Adolf Dobrovolný
Crisco, this is a bit of an odd one: as far as I can tell—but I'm far from positive—the entire disagreement between nominator and reviewer is about the image in the nomination and whether it's public domain or not.

Since you're experienced in that area, I was hoping you'd be willing, if you have the time and access, to take a look at it. It has acquired an X icon, though so far no one's rejected it outright. Complicating matters is that virtually all the sourcing is in Czech, as is the source of the image. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:23, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Posted. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Three-cent nickel
Thanks from me and the DYK project Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sardi (musician)
Thanks from me and the DYK project Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Unprotection


My above talk page archives were fully protected, but I want to edit them now. Could you un-protect them? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * All done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Armbrust The Homunculus 01:20, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Pixie
Hey Crisco, you think we can lift this image for The Gorilla Hunters? It's remarkably low on information, though it sure looks old enough... Drmies (talk) 05:05, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That looks about right, but I'd check to see if it is in a project Gutenberg page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:45, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

cols
Ok I can accept that :) - I always have an innate suspicion of em columns - but hey np - i have a sincerely heavy issue about lead sentences and single column ref lines, but if you reckon thats the way it goes is ok, ok satusuro 06:58, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Single-column ref lines, in that article? What resolution are you using? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:05, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Not that specific article - a generic suspicion where in some arts the ref lists ar elonger than the articles satusuro 07:10, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Yeah, those are better to avoid in many cases, but when 200 something web references are used for a single fact each... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:16, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Drama dari Krakatau
Hello! Your submission of Drama dari Krakatau at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cinosaur (talk) 10:32, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

FA congratulations once more
Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of Roekiah to FA status recently. I know you know all about WP:TFAR and the "pending" list, so this is just a reminder to use them as and when suits you. Many thanks. BencherliteTalk 10:24, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, remember. Though I'm trying to avoid Indonesia on the MP all the time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:51, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Get me an Indonesian mushroom-based video game in which the main character is a bird avoiding a hurricane, and you can have the main page to yourself for ever! BencherliteTalk 10:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That would be a heck of a blast! (But, on a more serious note, there will be some more Indonesian FPs coming through as well, so people may get tired of oversaturation). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:58, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Elgin image
Do you want to weigh in here? If I recall correctly, your objection caused the deletion of the original image. I suspect that Rovelstad let the statue into the public domain at some point or other, but proving it is a pain.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:10, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and I've replied. Also, could you trim the background from the coins in Elgin, Illinois, Centennial half dollar?  Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:04, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Kenneth Horne at PR, if I can tempt you?
Hi Crisco,

I wonder if I could beg a favour from you? I have the rather wonderful Kenneth Horne at peer review, with an aim to push to FAC (unless the comments suggest otherwise!) Would you have the opportunity to review and comment? There's no rush, and certainly no pressure, if you're piled up with other commitments. Many thanks! - SchroCat (talk) 00:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I should have time after I get back from Jember. I'm hoping to see the plantations tomorrow or Monday (the regency and city grew because of its fertile land, and tobacco/coffee/cocoa are all grown here... good picture opportunities) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:45, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Have a great trip - sounds an interesting place all round! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 11:32, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's nice enough (and staying at an Aston hotel all expenses-paid is even nicer). My proposal at WT:AFC doesn't seem to be drawing much interest right now, so I'll try and see if I can move Horne up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:46, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers for the comments: much appreciated, and I'm nearly done on them. Is your AFC proposal the flow-chart? - SchroCat (talk) 12:09, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, trying to see if the community will accept it... helps to have transparency in the reviewing process (in a form which will draw attention). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:11, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Djoewariah
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks. Considering how many people think DYK is the worst spot on the MP, that one would have the gall to say something like that is just... wow. Mind you, not that I agree with people saying that it's the worst part, but it certainly isn't TFA, and OTD tends to have higher standards as well. ITN... hit and miss. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:28, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

New image at Talk:Elgin, Illinois, Centennial half dollar
Hello - Would you mind taking a look at Talk:Elgin, Illinois, Centennial half dollar at the most recent image link I placed there, and see if you have any comments on it? Thanks KConWiki (talk) 02:47, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Kenneth Horne (writer)
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

AfD decision
Hello,

I noticed that you declared "keep" for "Choose Your Battles", but am unsure of this: If only one or two voters who voted "keep" addressed the notability issue while there were four votes indicating "delete" citing WP:NSONGS policy, what exactly influenced the "keep" decision? stated that reasons/evidence outweigh number of votes, and only one or two of the voters addressed the concern about notability when voting "keep" while four "delete" votes have reasons for why it is not notable enough according to WP:NSONGS.

Just looking to know the reason(s).....

XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 03:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Snuggums, the main evidence for the "Keep" close were that the song charted and the coverage (pointed out in the !votes). Yes, it is a marginal song (nothing like some of Perry's other work), but I think discussion showed that this passed the bar for notability. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:49, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually, there isn't exactly that much coverage available on the song. Its charting is not exactly significant be ause its position is rather low and it would also need much higher positions on more charts (it only has one) to have much impact. If one were to perhaps re-nominate it for deletion, is there perhaps a required waiting time period or anything before doing so? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not formalized, but the general rule is "don't renominate until the other editors have forgotten" (or have died, are retired, etc.). Drmies (talk) 04:07, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Crisco, I have to confess that I'm puzzled by this one, having been involved in the WP:NSONG RfC last year and the resulting updates to close the charting loophole and point out that coverage only in the context of the album didn't count for individual songs. This AfD was something of a test case, with the usual characters arguing that any charting or coverage was enough (i.e., Aaron, Tomica). If they'd answered in terms of NSONG it would have made sense, but most of the Keep votes ignored it entirely or actually argued against it having validity. By their arguments, every song on that album is notable, which seems to gut the entire purpose of notability through NSONG. You're going to get half a dozen people who think that every Rihanna, or Katy, or Gaga, or Aguilera song on every album is notable, and they'll all be Keep or No consensus (which amounts to the same thing). BlueMoonset (talk) 04:08, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * My point exactly, BlueMoonset. This song isn't notable since it hasn't impacted her career or society at all. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Your side should have canvassed better, BlueMoonset. Yes, arguments should weigh more heavily, and AfD isn't a democracy, but the keepers seriously outnumbered the deleters. Rightly or wrongly, it's very difficult for an admin to go against fairly overwhelming numbers--though I agree with you on the substance of the matter. Drmies (talk) 04:47, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops--let me be more clear: I mean the substance of your argument in the AfD. How I would have decided the AfD is a different matter. Drmies (talk) 04:55, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * My understanding of the rules, Drmies, is that canvassing is not allowed. Am I wrong? Should there be posts to the appropriate notability talk page when it has been invoked? If so, is the discussion supposed to be transcluded? Now that it's over, I may point out at Wikipedia talk:Notability (music) that decisions like this badly undercut the NSONG notability rules. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:08, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, canvassing is not allowed, which is why we like to use our socks to do the canvassing. I can't answer your other question--perhaps I don't really understand it (or the antecedent of your "it"). Can you post and discuss on Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)? Sure, why not? But let's wait and see if Crisco has anything to add. BTW, I still don't know who Katy Perry is, but a breast cast, that sounds interesting. For the record, I'm getting my belly cast for all the good people at Wikipedia Review. Drmies (talk) 05:35, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I strongly recommend reassessing the decision to keep the article since there were stronger arguments made for deleting than there were keeping. Also, I must admit I find Calvin999's dismissal of WP:NSONGS and others' views concerning. The way he did so not only comes across as arrogant but also (implicitly) condescending. When he first found out about the article's nomination for deletion, he rudely stated that the Wikipedia community was "collapsing" because of editors such as myself. After I discouraged such patronizing remarks, he didn't even take it back or apologize. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 06:37, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry all, had to teach and go to talk to my thesis counselor. As Drmies said, though AFD is not a simple vote, the fact that the !votes were 3 or 4 to 1 cannot be ignored; if I'd closed as delete, my head would have been on a platter pretty quickly. The most I could have done was close as no consensus (and even then there would have been complaints). Yes, there have been changes to NSONG, but the AFD suggests that such changes may not be well received by the community at general. My suggestion is to try and BRD: Redirect to the album, if (when) someone reverts, start a discussion, then try and find consensus there; WP:NSONGS clearly states that redirects are acceptable (also an argument against up and up deletion). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:45, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The article creator is a fan, methinks, so I suppose that redirect will be reverted. This will need a bigger discussion, bigger than just one AfD and an admin's talk page. Sure, the risk is there that other editors are emboldened by this AfD (including the creator, who may take the discussion as a justification for reverting a redirect), so seeking a larger forum is a must, in my opinion. Drmies (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm aware that it will be reverted, which is why I immediately suggested BRD. The issue is that AFD is mainly for determining whether an article should be deleted or not (though other outcomes are possible); relisting so that people can choose whether it should be redirected or not does not seem to be in form. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Drama dari Krakatau
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Template:Did you know nominations/Roast Busters
Crisco, this is a tough one, and I'm hoping you can decide whether it should be rejected (it has been given an X), or if it needs further consideration. I think this one should be given final consideration by someone with mop experience, given the disagreement here, because it's a messy one. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:53, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ugh... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, my thought too. I personally think Newyorkbrad is right, and it would be a bad idea to have the article on the main page regardless of hook, but wanted someone with more DYK experience making that decision. BTW, congrats on the medal below... BlueMoonset (talk) 04:50, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Yoninah! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Stuff n things
Nice front page today! I had a look for stuff for Horne the writer, but nothing new came up, unfortunately... - SchroCat (talk) 20:00, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Rats! Thanks though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
Just in case you hadn't seen. Mat ty. 007 18:45, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Seen and ignored as unecessary drama-stirring. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * As in Jalan Slamet Riyadi? hmm keep posted on that one satusuro 03:35, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That's the guy. I've got a biography of him by Julius Pour (appears to be the only book-length bio) so I should be good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:21, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Promote prep to queue?
Looks like a set is ready, and 20 whole minutes in which to promote it. Can you take care of it? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:37, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Erm... I guess I was late. Sorry. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

WikiGrasi
Crisco, kalo boleh nanya nih, ada nggak halaman Wikipedia yang khusus untuk menghilangkan status blokir atau paling tidak peringanan masa pemblokiran ? --Erik Fastman (talk) 07:43, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Di Wikipedia mana? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:11, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia bahasa Inggris --Erik Fastman (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Paling2 pasang Unblock di halaman pembicaraan pengguna, dengan alasan mengapa mencari grasi. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:32, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Buku baru, inspirasi baru...
Bung, beberapa hri ini, skolah sy kedatangan 2 buku sejarah baru dari Perpustakaan Daerah. Ykni, Kalimantan Barat:Lintasan Sejarah dan Pembangunan dan J.C. Oevaang Oeray:Langkah dan Perjuangannya. Dlm buku ini, ad beberapa tokoh penting yg sbeanrnya juga masuk bahagian dari sejarah Kalimantan Barat. Salah satunya A.H. Bohm (mantan kontrolir Keresidenan Sambas dan sekretaris Hamid II dari Pontianak). Pd akhirnya, dia hrus pulang k Belanda stlh penyerahan kedaulatan. Wah, sy kebanjiran referensi utk menulis artikel sejarah West-Borneo, om! -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 04:56, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Syukurlah. Memang kita kurang banyak data mengenai itu. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Church Clothes 2
Crisco, can I ask you to take a look at this? The issue is an uncited tracklisting that has track times and no explicit source to support them. This has been sitting for over a month and no one seems willing to take it on. I'm honestly not sure about this one myself, which is why I'm asking you to see what's what. Thanks for considering it, even if you decide to give it a pass. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Gave my two cents. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Mockridge13 edits to Indonesian National Revolution
Mockridge13 made this edit that you reverted, he put back and you reverted. It looks like he made a comment as to why he made the change, but he put it on User talk:Mockridge13. I left him a welcome message letting him know that doesn't work, but perhaps you would like to see it since it was meant for you. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 10:20, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:29, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tjioeng Wanara
Thank you for your contribution to the wiki Victuallers (talk) 12:28, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Pengusulan AP dan AB
Bang Woodrich, Anda diundang untuk memberikan suara di sini, sini, dan sini. (Catatan:Apakah boleh saya berbicara dengan abang menggunakan bahasa Indonesia memandang pengguna lainnya seperti Adi.akbartauhidin dan Erik Fastman menggunakan bahasa Indonesia untuk berbicara dengan Anda?) Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:24, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Boleh kok. Nanti biar saya bersuara di sana. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:26, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Non free image
Hi Crisco, what, if any, action should be taken when a (that is up for deletion at the moment, maybe for the ) is used in user boxes despite the editor being told about it on a previous occasion? There have been problems with the Shiba Inu article text constantly being altered to read 'doge' instead of dog, which is the only reason I noticed this - Doge (meme)'s are certainly not something I'm interested in! SagaciousPhil  -  Chat  10:49, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Unilaterally remove it. NFCC is non-negotiable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:01, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Crisco, I've removed it and left a note on Retartist's talk page. I guess you've seen this little gem? Rules (or the law even) evidently don't apply to memes!   SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  11:23, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Funny. They've held this for vandalism and graffiti before (don't have any cases in front of me) but memes have been found to touch on copyright. Downfall, for instance. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/John Antwi
Crisco, I was wondering whether you'd be willing to take another look at this one. You had put an X on it, but Crosstemplejay has done some work addressing the referencing issues. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:40, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

The Tower House
You may recall very helpfully reviewing the images for William Burges when it was at FAR. I wonder if you'd be kind enough to have a look at two images for The Tower House, namely the elevations and the floor plans. I've taken them from The Survey of London, which is available at British History online, and is referenced both in the Notes and the References. I suspect both illustrations date from around the 1880s, and would therefore be out of copyright, but I don't know for sure. They improve the article hugely and will greatly enhance readers' understamding of the house but I've no ideally whether their use is allowed, and, if it is, how to categorise them in Wiki Commons. Any assistance you can provide would be much appreciated. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 08:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll try and drop by... after supper, maybe. I'm trying to write an article atm. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you have any more detail? I can't see keeping these without clear provenance. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:31, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

W.E.F. Britten images
Absolutely no objection to them being put up separately, well-spaced, I'd imagine. They're very good poems (mostly - Oenone is not very good, and critics agree there), and encouraging thousands of people to read poetry can't hurt. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:45, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Very much agree. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:30, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Recreation of deleted article
You deleted I Gusti Kompiang Raka as copyvio; it's been recreated, and I don't see much difference between the versions. But the editor has now translated it into English. I'm inclined to zap it as still a derivative of copyvio text, but you're in a better position to decide whether it's different enough and notable enough to be kept. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:11, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like a straight Google translate. Still a copyvio. Nuked. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, sorry to hear it but can't say I'm surprised. I see only templates about writing in English on the user's talk page, so I dropped him a note about copyright and suggested he ask you any questions. However, if you are in your usual location, I hope you are now in bed! Yngvadottir (talk) 18:38, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. We'll see if the editor tries to change his/her ways. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:44, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

On a separate subject....
You have Photoshop proper, right? Would you mind doing some vignetting fixes on a restoration I'm finishing up? It's the Hidatsa Dog Dancer image currently on the FPC. Just couldn't let it pass without restoration. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, but wouldn't cloning the original paper texture work as well? I mean, the vignetting is almost all in areas with no detail. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:30, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Could work, but GIMP makes it a bit non-trivial, since you still have to make the brightness match everywhere, including over the text, but the only brightness changes offered are "select an area, go to levels and change the local brightness." which means dozens and dozens of tweaks. You'll see once I'm done. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:09, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I haven't worked with GIMP in that area as much (I basically restrict it to doing circle crops now, as it handles them much better than Photoshop), so that's good to know. Okay, just send it by Dropbox (if it's a TIFF or something) once you're ready (or if you can stand the lossiness, via Commons) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:58, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * See, this is why I use PNG. Lossless, but much, much smaller file sizes. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:27, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL, yeah that works too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:20, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Drama dari Krakatau
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 * Hi Crisco - I know you'll get a bot-note that this one passed, but I wanted to say congrats myself. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:55, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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Regarding Schaubia
Hey, Crisco 1492. I've opened a discussion on the talk page regarding Schaubia. Afro- Eurasian  (talk)  07:34, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Gradients ready to be fixed


I think the remaining issue is very clear. If you can get that vignetting with Photoshop, and then upload over the PNG, and upload a JPEG version (I've set up the JPEG description page), methinks we have a FP. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, ready to give it a shot. Give me a bit (and since I'm stitching a panorama right now, it may be a while) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:30, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Still a bit of a light patch on the middle-left, and a dark patch over the text. Of course, we'll probably want to curves adjust it to lighten up the paper a bit once it's smoothed out, and that might conceal what we have so far, but I suspect lightening the bottom a bit more wouldn't hurt first. Adam Cuerden (talk)
 * Which text are you looking at? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The big blocks of text at the bottom. The paper there is still a little darker than the rest of the paper. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:22, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll upload another version, but I'm not quite pleased with it... I don't think I can get the paper perfectly even. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I can never get the background completely right for anything I don't scan myself. Still, I think it's a massive improvement. I've made some final tweaks; if you're reasonably happy, let's put it up. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:14, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, let me clear the errors on the left edge of the page (looks like the patch tool went wonky) then upload a JPG and PNG. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:21, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Think between the two of us we've improved this a whole lot. I'll add it to the FPC, Featured picture candidates/Hidatsa Dog Dancer Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:27, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK John Antwi

 * Hi Crisco, thanks so much for the discussion that has gone on concerning [|DYK John Antwi], I have addressed your concerns, hope its good enough for you. Thanks once again. CrossTempleJay  →  talk 16:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, wow!! what a roller coaster ride it has been for my DYK nomination. But I have loved every bit of it. I learned some new things on the way too. Thanks a lot. I am wondering what you think about me pitching for a sysop on the english wikipedia. I have been engaged in mainly Ghanaian and African related edits, changes and articles. Just pitching the idea by you. Thanks so far for bringing the best out of me. CrossTempleJay  →  talk 16:23, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd have to go through your contribution history to be sure, but a bit of quick advice: make yourself familiar with WP:CSD, and show your understanding through proper tagging. That's derailed a few RFAs (almost derailed mine, in fact)... oh yeah, and make sure you have a reason why you need the tools (i.e. combating vandalism, NPP, etc.) rather than just want them. Content is useful, but RFA looks at quite a few areas of your on-Wiki work. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice, will do my due diligence first, then come back to you.  CrossTempleJay  →  talk 11:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Coward
I found a problem with this; could you please review and see if you A. agree there's an error, and B. if you do agree, if you find the edit sufficient to fix it? Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Have replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:47, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Mass surveillance
We have a lot of new articles about to hit mainspace, and we could really use your advice on crafting solid, neutral, interesting DYK hooks, when appropriate. --HectorMoffet (talk) 18:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

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Serundeng
Crisco, I got two options on Amazon. A jar from Conimex (that's the most sold brand in Dutchland) or this here Serundeng Kelapa. Which do I pick? Or do I pick neither and make it myself? Drmies (talk) 22:15, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Never tried either. Looks yummy though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:39, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm. That's not helpful! I see now that the Conimex product is sold by a company that ships Dutch stuff all over the US, and they charge almost $10 for shipping. I think I'm going to try and make it myself. Drmies (talk) 05:31, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Easy! Drmies (talk) 05:35, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

On Pather Panchali
If you have time, can you please have a look at the article Pather Panchali? It has undergone a productive peer review. Also, did copyedit. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:01, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * We'll see. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:43, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot :) you can leave comments on the talk page of the article.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:11, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Manuel L. Quezon 2

 * Thanks Armbrust! BTW, I think Coward has a consensus now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:44, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, just one question. Is the alternative version build up on your edit or not? Armbrust The Homunculus 23:55, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you mean did Adam use the one which was delined? I think so, but then it's a very easy fix (just pass through a dust and scratches filter) so no need to credit me... after all, I didn't credit myself in the nomination statement. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:58, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Well you will still receive the credit for the nomination. In circa 5 minutes. 718smiley.svg Armbrust The Homunculus 00:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL. Cheers. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Antemas
Allen3 talk 17:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Choose Your Battles
I only saw the Articles for deletion/Choose Your Battles discussion after it closed, from a link on DYK, actually. But it seems to me that while those favoring keep are more numerous, those favoring delete have the stronger policy-based argument. You didn't include any analysis in your close statement, may i inquire as to your reasoning on this close? DES (talk) 18:38, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, previous discussion is here, where I highlighted my main points (in short, a bit of discussion in secondary sources, charting, and a very clear sense that the community is not necessarily in support of the new version of WP:NSONGS). With the benefit of hindsight, perhaps "No consensus" would have been best, but a straight up deletion would have been on very shaky grounds. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:09, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the link. I have started a discussion at WT:Notability, with a link here and to your archive page. You may or may not wish to comment. DES (talk) 15:18, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

POTD
Hey, Chris, there's been some comments on my talk page about the Yeoman Warder POTD. You may want to read them. User_talk:Adam_Cuerden
 * Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Could you write a nice POTD blurb?
File:Nrol-39.jpg, my first and only nomination to FPC, has been dubbed a FP!! Yays all round.

Looking ahead, POTD says that "Certain images may be placed on specific days"  There has been some suggestion by others that File:Nrol-39.jpg might be perhaps scheduled on a specific day (Feb 11 or perhaps some other date).

I've never written a POTD nomination-- would you be willing to take a stab at writing a POTD nomination for File:Nrol-39.jpg? --HectorMoffet (talk) 14:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * As I generally handle POTD, that would not be a problem. Right now POTD is scheduled through February 19; the 20th is the earliest I could squeeze it in. Thoughts? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:01, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ping. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:46, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's fine by me.  There may later be talk to try to reschedule it for Feb 11, but that's   less likely with each passing day.  Regardless of run-date, it's be a huge step forward to get  a nice neutral high-EV POTD nomination.   I'd write it myself, but I know nothing about POTD, and besides, the less passion a writer has about the subject, the easier it is to hit the sweet spot that is NPOV.  --HectorMoffet (talk) 23:50, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the RFC went bottoms up. I'd rather not run on the 11th if consensus is against it, as there will likely be complaints. However, the 21st is free so I'll schedule it for that date. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:54, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * HectorMoffet, I've scheduled it for the 21st. Did you see Cracked.com's take (Number 1)? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:16, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "Yeah, the RFC went bottoms up. I'd rather not run on the 11th if consensus is against it-- I cannot express to you how much I endorse that sentiment. I was always just trying to offer options, not advocate for specific options.  I never wanted any action unless it was supported by strong consensus.  The earlier proposal of taking mainpage into full editorial mode was very controversial, as it should be.  We've gone editorial exactly once in 13+ years.  It was controversial and all such proposals should be. There is a much narrower proposal to make Feb 11 a "special day", sort of like the olympics.   has opened my eyes to some of the values inherent in promoting the Olympics (e.g. Nationalism, Ableism)-- but running this POTD on Feb 11 would require absolute total NPOV in our content-- something very different than what I had initially proposed. I babble.   Main point:  I agree with your conclusions 100%, thank you respecting NOTADVOCATE enough to avoid scheduling an out-of-order  POTD .  And just as much, I appreciate your respect for  NOTBUREAUCRACY, and how you've never claimed veto if  sufficient consensus had emerged for a Feb 11 run-date.   You're good at your job!  A+ --HectorMoffet (talk) 01:19, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Alright, gotta go. Master's theses don't write themselves (sadly!) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:21, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

FYI
A proposal has been made to  create  a Live Feed to  enhance the processing  of Articles for Creation and Drafts. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC to create a 'Special:NewDraftsFeed' system. Your comments are welcome. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/BK grilled chicken sandwiches
Crisco, here's a DYK nomination that has stalled: it's a GA that was nominated, and has a reviewer and creator in a fundamental disagreement over the article subject matter and whether it's appropriate in general and for DYK in particular. There were five posts within 17 hours, and nothing for over two weeks since. I did try Orlady first, but she has no interest whatever in the subject. Do you think you might see whether you're interested in breaking the stalemate? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:07, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied there. Off to teach now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:10, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Hendrix mugshot
What are your thoughts on ? GabeMc (talk&#124;contribs)  00:23, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Fuck suggestion
Thank you for your suggestion to change the blurb image. I modified it to File:Fuck film interview grid.tif, as you suggested. Perhaps you could revisit, at Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/requests ?

Thanks again,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:29, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, you've had my support for at least 14 hours so far. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:37, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Queue 4
Hi Crisco, I'm hoping you might be able to catch Queue 4 before it very shortly gets moved onto the main page - the second hook (for Hasculf de Tany) needs a tweak, I think. Either 'once' needs to be removed or shifted to "was once involved". SagaciousPhil  -  Chat  08:51, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:53, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Free?
Hi Crisco, I came across File:Raffles - The Amateur Cracksman 1917.jpg today, which is sited as a non-free image. As this was an American film and the poster was published in 1917, surely this is free and can be moved to Commons? Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 22:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Might even be able to find a higher resolution copy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:18, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Excellent: I've done the deed, with a better quality version too. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:01, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Closing an FLC
Hello Crisco. I saw on the FLC nom page that you were a delegate who can determine the outcome of an FLC. I was hoping you could determine (and hopefully promote) List of The New 52 publications. Discussion has been going for a month, and all comments have been addressed and the article has received universal support consensus. Thank you very much for helping. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:47, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do within the next few days. I think, however, that you may want to avoid so much white space (check out the TOC). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Great. Thank you for the comment/feedback. An additional user added some comments since this request. I will get to work on those and see where we stand afterwards. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:09, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Sukorambi Botanical Garden
Kindly check back at Did you know nominations/Sukorambi Botanical Garden. There are a couple of minor issues that I think ought to be addressed, and both of them should be resolvable in a few minutes. Nyttend (talk) 04:00, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied there. It's watchlisted. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Voltairine de Cleyre
Pretty easy restoration. Main problem was deciding whether the very minor chromatic fringing justified extreme measures. (it didn't, so I didn't take them in the end). Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Sorry I didn't do it myself, but as I have a houseguest until Sunday I figured disappearing for x hours was a bad idea. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:13, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries! IT was fun, and, hey, I'll gladly help out with an International Women's Day image. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Instant gratification! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Farrar
The DYK project (nominate) 20:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Bad habits
I see (and am grateful for) your addition of commas chez Ralph Richardson, closing subordinate clauses that I had negligently left open. This has been the besetting sin in my prose for fifty years. I used to be ticked off by my English masters at school, and I still keep forgetting the closing comma. Do you have a persistent bad habit in your prose I should look out for? Best wishes, Tim riley (talk) 16:06, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Those same commas, apparently. That and trying to write in British English and still using the American spelling :-s — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:06, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/London Buses route K5
Crisco, you had put an X on this one, but Launchballer has subsequently posted that he found a source. I have no idea whether one source is sufficient, but would appreciate you taking another look and adding a new reply to the review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:41, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Well? BlueMoonset (talk) 23:05, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought I'd posted. Will post. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I just noticed it in a prep area. Good to have it settled one way or the other. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
(Ps. I'll be at your PR shortly too) Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 12:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks (and thanks!). I guess that means I should actually use that biography of D. Djajakusuma I bought, soon. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:42, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sukorambi Botanical Garden
The DYK project (nominate) 12:47, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

More like 8 kilometres by road north-northwest than 11, and that's from the centre, check on google maps.. Nice work though!.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * None of the sources give their starting point, so I'm not surprised there's some variation. I left from the Aston hotel, and it was... perhaps 6 km. Not far, maybe 10 minutes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:50, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Suharto pictures

 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/849a421c-2624-dd2a-654c-711a896da762 - Queen Juliana and Suharto (?) inspecting troops in Kemayoran
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/1939683f-cbda-2c26-1d2f-5451850fe77b - Queen Juliana and Suharto in Kemayoran, 1971
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/abcbb2fa-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Prince Bernhard and Tien Suharto
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/4c5b2f22-c323-7cc3-0d7e-b4b778cb3f96 - Suharto, Tien, Juliana, and Bernhard (1971)
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/abce231e-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Suharto and Juliana
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/aba221a6-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Suharto with...?
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/aba1b43c-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Anti-Suharto demonstration
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/ad90de26-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Suharto, Tien, and the Dutch royal family
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/ad90dd68-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Suharto and Bernhard
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/aba21616-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Suharto and Juliana
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/aba20d06-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Suharto, Tien, and the Royal Family
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/aba21328-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Suharto, Tien, and the Royal Family
 * http://proxy.handle.net/10648/aba24064-d0b4-102d-bcf8-003048976d84 - Suharto upon landing

These are all CC-BY-SA, if someone wants to get them before I do. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:34, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * For FPC: File:Benjamin West, English (born America) - Benjamin Franklin Drawing Electricity from the Sky - Google Art Project.jpg — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:33, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Need some advice or help, please
James Dunn (actor) has a non-free file File:James Dunn.jpg. Recently uploaded a PD one at Commons with exactly the same file name. There's no way to distinguish that we want to now use the PD photo and when I want to change it on the article, it doesn't happen. Don't want to remove it and call for SD as it's not a copyvio and the uploader deserves to know the facts re: the uploaded photo. (Not to mention the rumors that might start re: the "disappearance" of the photo.) I can:


 * move the non free file here
 * move the PD file at Commons

Either option would solve the issue by changing one of the names; which seems the least rude and disruptive? Thanks, We hope (talk) 01:53, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe WP:F7 applies, which would avoid file moving altogether. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! We hope (talk) 04:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

File:NGC6960.jpg
This is a great image that deserves FP, but it's far, far underdocumented, and should not appear on the main page under any circumstances until it's know whether this is a visible light, radio, infrared, composite, or other type of image, and whether it's false or true colour. If false colour, at least a brief description of the colours is needed. Without that information, this image is pretty, but meaningless. Now, judging from http://www.imagingdeepsky.com/Nebulae/NGC6960/NGC6960.htm this is a true colour long-exposure image (A RGB mosaic should end up equivalent to a colour image, which, after all, is encoded in RGB), but I would like an astronomer to confirm I'm reading that correctly, and it should be added to the description page and caption. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:52, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Have you pinged User:The Herald? I think s/he was the uploader, and thus would be able to ask Crawford more easily. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:04, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Based on what I can see on the page, it's stitched from three images. Can't be sure of anything else. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:08, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Image in Joan McCracken DYK nom
I was hoping to clear some DYK reviews but I'm uncertain about the image in this one. Is it okay when it's come from youtube? It does have a US PD? Was there a full moon last night as there sure seems to have been some crazy goings on? SagaciousPhil  -  Chat  11:36, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's perfectly possible (that would be PD-US-no notice), but I'll have to watch the trailer to be sure. That being said, I would not allow the image anyways as it is terrible at 100px. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:39, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Copyvio. Copyright notice at 0:21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtPPSV3o3Zg) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:43, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that was fast! Should I stick a "DYK?" icon on the nom to at least hold the article off the main page until the image is sorted/removed?  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  12:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * If the hook runs without the image there shouldn't be a problem. I'd just suggest removing the image from the article and hook. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:06, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  14:33, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tjioeng Wanara
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Princess Ida on the main page
I'm guessing that putting it up on March 30th with a note stating that the restorer will be on-stage with it in Edinburgh from 1-5 April wouldn't fly? Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:30, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Everything up to "30th" would fly, but... Well, I don't need to tell you. Good job, though, sounds like a heck of an experience. My only stage experience was a failed amateur production of Kami, Perempuan, in 2012... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, well. March 30th would be good, anyway. Might get people to look around for productions. How about splitting it in two? 1,2,3,4 on the 30th, 5,6,7,8 on the 4th? Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I'll get back to you on that. I think there'd likely be a few complaints on the MP as it would link to the same article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:00, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Could link the first to Princess Ida. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * And the second? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:22, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * William Russell Flint. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:28, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That may be doable, actually. Just would need a bit more context; any chance you could hunt down why Flint went into illustrating? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:30, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I actually have a couple newspaper articles on him. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:25, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That would be peachy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:31, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Actinidia chinensis image
Hi. I think the potd image Actinidia deliciosa not A. chinensis. Please hold off from making it POTD until I have time to check. JJ Harrison (talk) 01:36, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Will do. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:41, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

re: February 2014
It's only libel if it isn't true.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 14:47, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You're actually defending that? (I will not copy your statements here, as those are disgusting) *sigh* Add the fact that your claim for his COD has not been confirmed... Please do not repeat this, or I will have to block. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:51, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It has been confirmed. I guess you don't keep up with the news.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 15:00, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That is a news blog. There's a reason one would not cite it in the article (which, BTW, does not have anything confirmed; it has "As of February 4, 2014, the medical examiner's office has not stated an official cause of death"). Also, the author of the BBC piece says "apparently from heroin overdose"; that's not confirmation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Streatham portrait
Hello! Your submission of Streatham portrait at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! &mdash; Rod talk 20:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't know enough about the possible copyright issue with the image on its commons page.&mdash; Rod talk 20:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Fakih Usman
I'll take a look through the article sometime tomorrow for a copyedit...I was tied up travelling this weekend and couldn't get back to you.--ColonelHenry (talk) 05:25, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. I went through it (quickly, I'll admit) earlier. I've got a translation project going on right now (RL), but I should be in front of the computer for most of the day tomorrow, my time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I gave it two read-throughs today and didn't see anything else that jumped out at me. I'll give it another look later on and likewise don't expect to see anything out of whack. So I think its in good shape. It's a great article, would have been glad to support this at FAC. --ColonelHenry (talk) 21:10, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Ida B. Wells
No, I did not use Chuck's version - I don't like working from crops, and will only use a JPEG if the original source is a JPEG. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:09, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I do wish people would upload as PNG. Mind, my crop's looser than Chuck's, so... Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Google Art Project stuff seems to have their only available source files as JPEGs. JPEGs do lose quality each save, so I'll use them, but try to avoid repeatedly-saved versions. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:23, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Why not give some apropos from your abundant ideas here Hafspajen (talk) 07:27, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Tried. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Oops!!
Hi, as I was idly scrolling, and thinking about farthingales, I did something at Streatham by mistake - like didn't pay attention - and tapped the track pad when I shouldn't have! Anyway I tried to roll myself back and it wouldn't let me. Victoria (tk) 13:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's... odd. But since it's just enabling the feedback tool, I don't think it's something to worry about. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:45, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Lady Jane Grey

 * Appropriate date for the promotion, I should think. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:54, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I fought the law and... oh, bad choice of song. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:13, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No idea what song you are singing, but that portrait in prep that is considered bad is not bad, the article I mean, and nicely b.... wrapped;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * And the law won... that would be. Hafspajen (talk) 14:38, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * And now that particular little song has been going round and round in my head for hours ...   SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  14:48, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:52, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * and the lady was promoted, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

OOps
Hafspajen (talk) 13:49, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I was right! Another doggy! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:47, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, you were right!! Hafspajen (talk) 15:46, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Czar
Just want to be clear, I meant Czar (political term) not Tsar, and I wasn't even thinking of you. I never had any dispute with how you handled anything-- there was never a consensus to run anything special on Feb 11, I never asked you to run anything special on Feb 11, and if I did ask to put anything into a queue it doesn't belong in, please pop it out.

I wish I could say your treatment was representative. I was treated very shabbily by some people. Let's remember I never nominated anything to TFA-- I was attacked for nothing more than scribblings while sandboxing. I didn't seek out an argument about TFA-- I never got consensus for anything. I was just minding my own business when someone showed up to treat me rudely and told me consensus didn't matter. And it turns out he's right!

So I quit, and it turns out I'm the not even the first user to have quit over this?

So yeah yeah, I'm leaving, and I'll leave politely, and indeed, in most ways I've already left for Scholarpedia. But on my way out the door, I do need have a minor need to pass on what I learned about the way we actually run Main, not how we pretend to run main. --HectorMoffet (talk) 16:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a very worthy effort, and I should think your contributions will be of some value there (although of course they have value here as well). Sadly, based on the article regarding Scholarpedia, I could not contribute, as my field (Indonesian literature and popular media) is well outside their scope.
 * I did not mean to seem offended by your use of the term, and I do not have any issues with the NROL patch running (I usually put requests first, especially for first-time nominators). It's just that there are a lot of hard calls that Bencherlite, who manages the most visible part of the main page, has to make, and considering the doozy he just had to make (regarding Fuck), I felt he didn't need anything directed at him (especially as it was not entirely pertinent to the OP).
 * Regarding the article nomination you brought up, it has... a long enough background, which is plastered throughout Wikipedia. Although I voted to run the article, and reviewed it at the FAC, I understand why Bencherlite needed to close the discussion as he did: long standing consensus was that articles are not run more than once, and any attempts to do so needed to get prior approval. It's rather telling that, in ten years of TFA, only two articles have run twice. If this consensus was going to be changed, it needed wider discussion than just the people who showed up to vote for the nomination... it would have been a fairly major change, of a long-established consensus, and people who may have agreed with Sherman running twice may not have agreed with this as a general principle (if, say, Lie Kim Hok were nominated to be run twice, would it get as much support?). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:26, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Sadly, that case isn't known well enough-- For example, if only I had known about it two months ago, I never would have even considered the main page project, I never would have met some people, and I wouldn't be leaving now. So, it may be old news to you insiders, but it's new news to the rest of us, and the more people who know about it upfront, the less drama there will be.


 * You compliment his work, but you miss my point-- I'm not saying he's a "bad" king.  He may well be a wise and just king solomon when it comes to making the hard calls. But we have two problems:
 * I was under the misunderstanding that we didn't have any kings around here and when I found out otherwise, I knew my time here was over.  That problem is solved by me setting sail for other projects.
 * Even if, as you claim, we have a good King, you must admit we do not have a polite king, and in my case he was an outright rude king. And I think it's up to his friends put a stop to it before his enemies do (counting myself in neither group).
 * My first experience with the man was when he freaking edit warred over a freaking sandboxy-draft!  My first knowledge that we even had a TFA coordinator was when the TFA coordinator showed up in my sandboxy-draft to tell me how he would be closing my RFC, before I had even written one or decided what I would even propose!  Said he: "It's quite simple - whatever comes out of this proposal, as the TFA coordinator I will not be running any FA for a second time".  I replied that "The community as a whole, however, may choose to display a re-run, assuming we got sufficient consensus for it." His reply: " I think you'll find that not only I do have that authority but I in fact have the final say on what appears at TFA"


 * Rudeness is not a necessary byproduct of hard work-- our board members and our arbs do hard work while holding themselves to a standard of civil behavior that is clearly lacking here.


 * I know you're here to defend your fellow editor, but can you honestly read the above and just pat him on the back and say "Good work introducing yourself to that user.  I wouldn't change a thing!"???  Can you look at the Sherwood case and honestly say "Good work closing that on-going discussion a month early because you had already made up your mind how you were going to close it, no matter what four weeks of consensus-generating might have produced!"?


 * Don't answer me-- I won't hear the answer and the answer isn't meant for me.    If I'm his only problem then he has no problems.   I'm not a reformer.  Unfortunately, I don't think I'm his only problem-- by my rough count there are  six or seven people who appear to be chomping at the bit to have ANYONE but him in the job, and he's only been doing it for a year.   If he keeps generating enemies at this rate, they will outstrip his allies, and that would be ugly.


 * I wish you luck.--HectorMoffet (talk) 17:46, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you have a diff to the "edit war" you mention? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:55, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Streatham portrait
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Not bad ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps not even write-by-numbers. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:10, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Poisoning the minds of children
It seems I'm destroying my children's language acquisition with my insistence on disputed grammar. I was just at a pharmacy with my youngest, and a car drive by and honked. She looked at me and asked, "Who's that sound?" Curly Turkey (gobble) 08:15, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Erm... and she's what, five? Four? I think that would possibly happen even back in the Frozen North. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:18, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Two. I just thought it was funny she was using "who" to refer to something inanimate right after that vicious dustup. Curly Turkey (gobble) 08:44, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Channeling you, perhaps? I dunno. Baby Geniuses may have been a documentary after all. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:47, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, Jesus! A textbook example of NPOV if I ever saw one: "Although the film was a total abomination, a sequel was made..." Curly Turkey (gobble) 09:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Abomination, catastrophe, the diarrhea of Cthulhu given material form... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Joan McCracken
I appreciate your offer to help with the fair use image. I'm afraid that free images are going to be impossible to find. She only made two movies, and their trailers both have copyright notices. However, lengthy clips are avaialble online of her dance routines in both movies, and I was thinking that I might be able to get a screenshot from either of them (actually a better quality one than the Commons image) and utilize that within the body of the article. See, both dance routines, the ones in Good News and Hollywood Canteen, were the subject of extensive critical commentary by Sagola in her book The Girl Who Fell Down. I can expand, perhaps, the discussion of the dance routines a tad, and use a screenshot (or screenshots) as fair use to illustrate one or perhaps both. How does that sound? Coretheapple (talk) 17:48, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh never mind. Turns out someone found a free image, so it seems that we won't or can't be able to use a fair use image. Coretheapple (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ooh. Do you have a link? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah. Found by We hope. I was just going to suggest you ask him/her to hunt you down a picture. We hope does fantastic work, hunting Ebay and other sources for free images. The Shirelles was made a lot better by the image he/she found. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:05, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No actually user:BettyLogan. Never thought of looking through Ebay, and the idea of finding a publicity photo (in this case an excellent one) without a copyright is a corking good idea! Coretheapple (talk) 00:16, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Betty Logan? But the uploader in the file history is We hope. Anyways, I'm trying to remove the watermark in the first image. It might take a while, but the end result will be a better infobox picture. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:25, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * What do you think, Core? Acceptable for an infobox? File:Joan McCracken 1950.jpg. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh you're right, I'm sorry. It was We Hope (I thought you were being metaphorical). I guess Betty just added it to the article. I think the photo is fine. The watermark adds class! Coretheapple (talk) 01:29, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Watermark? Or do you mean the studio tag / w.e.? I can remove it if necessary. Personally, I thought the second upload was way too harsh a crop... I much prefer the looking over the shoulders pose. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:32, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh I meant the studio tag. Yes, I think your crop is much better. Very fetching pose. Still casts a spell fifty-some years after her death, wouldn't you say? Coretheapple (talk) 01:40, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Very much so. Same reason I worked on the Roekiah article, to be honest. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Joan McCracken's number in Hollywood Canteen was high camp, but she was one hell of a dancer.See for yourself. Hard to believe she was suffering from diabetes during this number and her entire career. Coretheapple (talk) 04:18, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll have to see if I can find some of her works here. It sure isn't easy... Indonesians don't really like paying for classic movies. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way, regarding the YouTube video I just linked to, do you think that I would be justified to use a screenshot from that video to illustrate an article I just started, LeRoy Prinz? There is no free image available of that person so far as I can tell, and the illustration of the dance number could be used, perhaps, as there is critical commentary in the article on that particular dance number. What do you think? Coretheapple (talk) 05:46, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It would be workable, although I strongly suggest checking ebay (or talking to We hope) to see if there are free images available first. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:49, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, you're right. Ebay has a few, including one without a watermark. Coretheapple (talk) 05:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No, on closer examination I see a copyright notice. Here is the ebay search. Several photos, but all have watermarks. Coretheapple (talk) 06:00, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... appears most of them do have notices, on the bottom. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:05, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Not this one though, I think: Not sure how to remove the watermark, however. Coretheapple (talk) 06:10, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind - I found one without a copyright or watermark. Coretheapple (talk) 06:16, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Same image, or different? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:25, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Different. Not very good, but he's in it. Coretheapple (talk) 06:49, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Did you get a look at the back? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:55, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, no copyright notice. Coretheapple (talk) 06:58, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay. To be safe, upload the back over the front, then revert to the front. If the ebay link goes down, you'll still have proof there was no copyright notice. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:05, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. Coretheapple (talk) 07:16, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I've cropped the image so as it shows up better in the infobox. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:26, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That helps, thanks. I did a DYK nomination and was thinking of adding that as an illustration for it, but I don't know how to add that. Instead I made note of it in a comment. Coretheapple (talk) 14:27, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Dispute
Crisco, you know you are INVOLVED. If you want to intervene in my dispute with Bench, don't pretend your NOTINVOLVEd. If I'm going to be warned, it's not going to be from someone already involved in the dispute.

crisco, you are WP:INVOLVED. We have thousands of admins-- if bench keeps going to you for every dispute, it's pretty obviously you're not a neutral fact finder. I'm willing to leave the entire fucking project in exchange for ONE paragragph. If that's too much for Bench, then send us to some sort of dispute resolution or arbcom proceeding. I was willing to leave, but not without getting a paragraph in explaining my departure. I've earned that-- I'll fight for it. --HectorMoffet (talk) 14:53, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


 * "In general, editors should not act as administrators in cases in which they have been involved." Read the policy. I have been perfectly in line with it the entire time. I have I have not acted as an admin in your dispute with Bencherlite, and if you do end up blocked for edit warring, it will not be I who pulls the trigger. You should take a break and calm down, as almost everyone has been telling you either explicitly or implicitly. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:55, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * And Bencherlite has not come to me for this dispute. I have his talk page on my watchlist. I have Jimbo's page on my watchlist. I have been attempting to do some damage control during your spurt of the WP:DIVAs, so that if you do leave here it will not be with an indefinite block preventing your return. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Raincheck
Reviews are too long for me to type right now alas so will catch your next FAC--Wehwalt (talk) 16:15, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Prep 1
Hi, I just attempted to complete a prep set. Please let me know if I did it right, and if so, could you promote it to the queue, which is going live in a few hours? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:28, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone else got it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:05, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Streatham portrait
I'm happy to take a look (I'm familiar with the portraits assumed to be Jane Grey. I might not get to it for a couple of days... or I might do it later today.) - PKM (talk) 21:02, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I made one small change; those are usually called trumpet sleeves not farthingale sleeves - "farthingale sleeve" refers to a sleeve which which is big at the top rather than the bottom and is supported with whalebone or reeds to keep it poofy. If you have a source that specifically calls this a farthingale sleeve, I'd say they are mistaken.
 * [Original research warning!] There are a couple of features about the Streatham portrait that bug me - the shape of the undersleeves is atypically narrow for c. 1555 and the oversleeves are too droopy. But that's neither here nor there for your article, which sums up the controversy around the portait quite nicely. Good luck with it! - PKM (talk) 03:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello

 * London? Should be them ashes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:17, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Though we're no longer hearts of oak
I've put up the cropped version now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:41, 14 February 2014 (UTC)¨

DYK for Rembangan
The DYK project (nominate) 10:50, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tio Tek Djien
Thanks for this one Victuallers (talk) 15:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow
Less than a minute and a half. That must have bugged you awfully hard. Curly Turkey (gobble) 07:57, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * While I was watching Danny, the Champion of the World, nonetheless. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You wicked multitasking stalker, you. Curly Turkey (gobble) 08:05, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Evil as can be. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:14, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Poor flower; newsworthy indeed. J e e  13:12, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. They're hosing down the street outside with a pressure washer or whatever it's called... getting the ash off the trees. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Tjioeng Wanara
Bang Crisco, gambar abang di atas (maksudnya pesan ini) menarik 'ya. Abang rekam gambarnya sendiri? Oh 'ya, abang diundang untuk memberikan suara di sini. Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 13:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Betul, saya yang foto. Debunya masih banyak sekali di sini. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:31, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Jadi abang masih menggunakan masker? Wah, saya juga demikian! Minggu lalu saya libur sekolah karena kabut asap. Sekarang pun masih ada kabut, namun tidak separah minggu lalu. Harap-harap hari selanjutnya tidak ada kabut lagi di daerah abang dan saya. Hanamanteo (talk) 13:56, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Masih. Hanamanteo di Jawa Timur, kah? Hati2. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Mufaddal Saifuddin
Mufaddal Saifuddin
 * Again attempts are made to revert back and conceal availaible information from reputed news sources. Please revert back to the last edit by Crisco 1492 as still the controversy going on has reached an ugly face with harassment attacks between both parties   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Summichum (talk •  —Preceding undated comment added 05:22, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * An admin who has not been involved in this article before may want to fully protect it. Any talk page stalkers up to it? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:27, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Good decision, the article should be fully protected in its current form as I dont see the issue resolving in near future , hence for NPOV both should be written as claimants only citing various issues over the succession. Moreover the matter has gone into courts as in the alleged succession video ,no one was named by Burhanuddin as he was completely disabled and could not speak, move.

edit war reported :
 * Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:26, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Again the same userid has reverted the article, This has happened at least 5 times. What can be done to fully protect the page?
 * I am involved, having reverted and attempted to clean up the article, so I cannot protect the page. I pinged a fellow admin, User:Mark Arsten, who is well-versed in dealing with edit wars and page protection, but as he is still asleep (probably) I don't think he will reply for another 2 or 3 hours. I also posted on the Edit Warring noticeboard. If, in 2 or 3 hours, nothing has been done, I think WP:ANI is our only choice. Are you autoconfirmed yet? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess you overlooked Manstha7, on Talk:Mufaddal Saifuddin' revision history. I had reported him.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 12:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't know what to do with this article. It's a complete mess. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:35, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You know better about it. Article is still not as bad as many other articles of wikipedia.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 13:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair point. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:13, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Saw that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:28, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * There was no violation of WP:BLP policy either.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 04:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That a controversy is ongoing? No, that was certainly not a BLP violation. Hence why I said "mistakenly" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It is over? Apparently I have seen nothing on talk page. For last 24 hours.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 13:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't think anyone's been trying to talk. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Streatham portrait
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Streatham portrait you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of J Milburn -- 22:52, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Gadis jang Terdjoeal
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Terang Boelan
Crisco, nih saya udah terjemahin bagian lanjutan artikel id:Terang Boelan. Silahkan tinggal diperbaiki saja tata bahasanya sementara saya membirukan pranala merahnya. --What a joke (talk) 04:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shahid Azimi Dam
Hi, Crisco 1492. I am curious how to find here that there is no consensus? Because by my understanding, if you read what different editors said, clear consensus was there as consensus does not need unanimity. Maybe you could elaborate your rationale behind of this decision? Beagel (talk) 07:26, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Who said there had to be unanimity? There is one editor arguing to keep, with the very valid point that there may be (in fact, likely are) sources in Farsi; that there are no sources in English is not evidence of a lack of notability (WP:NOENG). There is another editor, and yourself, !voting for deletion, bringing up issues of the article not being improved (not part of WP:N; that sources exist, assuming they exist, is enough) and a valid counter to the claim that all dams are notable, as they are becoming increasingly commonplace. Norty proposed a valid compromise, and personally that's what I would have !voted if I participated in the AFD, but nobody commented on his/her suggestion, and so we cannot say there is a consensus there. The AFD ran three weeks, all that is generally allocated, so I closed as no consensus. This close does not mean you can't just boldly redirect the article (feel free, if you want), just that there is no consensus at the current time for deleting. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:33, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * What NortyNort said was: "Redirect to List of power stations in Iran or just delete." And it is unlikely that there are even sources in Farsi, other than just mentioning it, to satisfy WP:GNG. 1-MW hydrodam is very small size for that kind of dams and one can't assume its notability automatically. It would also be helpful if instead of just saying "no consensus" the decision was explained. Beagel (talk) 08:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * With bold indicating his/her preference, which you seem to be leaving out. I never supported assuming automatic notability. Rather, I said "a valid counter to the claim that all dams are notable," meaning that I am working under the assumption that not all dams are notable. As this did not look to be a controversial close, nor even a close one to me, I did not include a rationale there (which is, again, common practice in AFD). You asked, you got my rationale. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:55, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Your comment on FAC page about eruption
Hope all is well! Much concerned. Tim riley (talk) 23:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Luckily we are just getting ash. A lot of ash, mind you, but nothing like what people in Kediri are getting... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * What an incredibly poignant picture. :( --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It is h*ll outside, that's for sure. Today's worse than yesterday in terms of breathability and visibility, because people are actually out and about, driving, without caring for how much dust they kick up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:20, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ugh. I wouldn't even know what to do in that situation. Is air quality reasonably safe indoors? I can't imagine how this must be irritating your lungs. I hope there is something you can do to protect yourselves. :( --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Reasonable enough. We've got surgical masks (or something similar) which filters most of it out. Merapi in 2010 was the same, although in that case I also had to worry about the pyroclastic flows. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:19, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * What happened after the 2010 eruptions, near the peak. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Missed this yesterday—I hope all is well and that you're keeping safe. – SchroCat (talk) 08:21, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I missed this too. Hope you are okay.--Godot13 (talk) 08:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Way less dust now, and the roads are almost comfortable to drive on (even if it still looks like the final act of Volcano, minus the lava and dog escaping from a burning house). I'd kill for a squeegee right now... all sold out. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:59, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
This wiki kitten is here to thank you for writing Air Mata Mengalir di Tjitarum (which I've just reviewed for DYK). It's great to see topics dealing with under-represented parts of the world treated so nicely. Keep it up!

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:31, 16 February 2014 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>
 * Thanks Piotrus! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:44, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Streatham portrait
The article Streatham portrait you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Streatham portrait for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of J Milburn -- 15:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)