User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 51

Help
Would you mind helping with an email I got from admin folks on Commons. I asked David Hepworth if he would supply an image for his bio, telling him he would have to release all rights etc, which he agreed to. I emailed commons about this, but got back a pile of leagelese I cant understand. I might forward to you if you have time. Ceoil (talk) 21:39, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, send it over. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Pong. Ceoil (talk) 01:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, Ceoil, there are two main points. Number one is Hepworth, as the subject, may not actually be allowed to release the image under a free license. This is because the owner of the copyright (i.e. the person who can actually release the image under a free license) would generally be the photographer, and not the subject. The second concern is that "you can do whatever you want with it" is not an explicit release under a compatible license. They prefer explicit statements such as "I release this under a CC-BY-SA 3.0 license" or "I release this image into the public domain"; such statements are considerably less ambiguous, and give an actual license (rather than "do as you please, but I still hold full copyright" which could be read from Hepworth's original statement. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll ask Hepworth to get his act together. But thanks, thats clear. Ceoil (talk) 02:12, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Any chance of a DYK promotion?
We have a full prep and no full queues, and half an hour before the next promotion is scheduled. Any chance you might be able to do something? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:18, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Pride (1998 film)
The DYK project (nominate) 00:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Google Books
Bang, saya mau membaca salah satu sumber yang ada di artikel St. Joseph's Church, Semarang, dan saya mengikuti sampai pranala ini. Namun saya tidak dapat menemukan tombol yang berfungsi agar saya dapat membaca buku ini. Bagaimana caranya? Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 13:26, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Itu memang snippet-view saja, tidak bisa dibuka. Saya malah punya hard copy di rumah, dari waktu saya menulis artikel Albertus Soegijapranata dua tahun yang lalu. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh begitu. Jadi jika ingin membaca sumber berupa buku di artikel itu, maka saya harus membeli bukunya, bang? Hanamanteo (talk) 04:27, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Atau pinjam dari perpus. Kalau buku Soegijapranata yang dirujuk itu, masih dijual di Kanisius (saya barusan dari sana, dan masih ada). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:30, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Chinese war listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Chinese war. Since you had some involvement with the Chinese war redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. TheChampionMan1234 06:57, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Cremation ceremony in India
I've got a source that clarifies what Motoki saw in India. It looks like there are quite a few images with free licenses that could be used to illustrate it, but none of them look very good to me. You've got a better eye for photos, though, so maybe you could find something good in there? The Harishchandra ghat is apparently the place where they do these ceremonies, and is likely the place Motoki visited (though he doesn't get more specific than saying he was in Varanasi). Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 02:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * This turns up in your search and is quite powerful, but I don't know where I can confirm the free license. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't even find where that image is used on that website... Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:48, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hence the problem. An Indian user might better know what is representative... perhaps Titodutta or someone he knows would have an opinion. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:53, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, thought I'd found that file on Commons. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 09:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:46, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

You have a mail
J e e 09:26, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, dealt with. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:58, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Hook credits
Hi, I noticed that the credits you put in on Preps 2 and 4 were out of order in relation to the hook order. Does it matter? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 10:22, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No. It has no effect whatsoever. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:27, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Australian two-cent coin
I went and reverted your moving of Australian two-cent coin to Two-cent coin (Australian). It was a good argument that all two-cent pieces should be named similarly but I reckon that it's a better argument that all Australian coins should be named similarly. In other words, having Australian one-cent coin, Two-cent coin (Australian), Australian five-cent coin, Australian ten-cent coin, Australian twenty-cent coin, etc. is worse than having Two-cent coin (New Zealand), Australian two-cent coin, Two-cent piece (United States), etc. Of course, the best thing would be to standardise on a single style for everything (so go ahead and revert my revert, if you want, but please move the other Australian coin articles along with the 2c). Jimp 10:58, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I was going on the standards at Quarter (Canadian coin) and similar parentheticals. WP:NATURAL seems to prefer Canadian quarter or something similar, so I'm not sure where to go for universal standardization except WP:NUMISMATICS. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:07, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It's probably something we should bring up for discussion on some centralised location. Perhaps WP:NUMISMATICS, as you suggest, might be a good place to start. Just browsing in the coins category turns up plenty of articles using some variation on one style or the other. It's going to be a bit of a job getting them all standardised whichever way we end up going. (There are other issues as well such as piece vs coin and spelt-out numbers vs numerals.) I personally would prefer Canadian quarter etc. Jimp 11:27, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Time to clean up Okuribito?
I'm sure there are details that can still be squeezed from the sources, but I think we're ready to clean up Okuribito and get it ready for GA—no more s, and I've at least used in some way all the sources I've come across. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 08:09, 24 June 2014 (UTC) This is the thing: there's likely something out there, but it's almost certainly in print only, and unsearchable in Google Books or anything. This supposed Techno Fantasy Land is remarkably anti-digital. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 12:11, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of doing that after I finish the images from Semarang (which will likely be next week)... that and I wanted to do a bit on the soundtrack. At least develop the paragraph about what the film sounds like. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:12, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, well, I'm done actively hunting for stuff. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 08:46, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * So am I. Do you want me to do the cleaning up so you can focus on Ukiyo-e? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:03, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll stay out of your way, but I'm unlikely to "focus" on anything Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 12:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC).
 * Alrighty then. Well, be sure to let me know when the inevitable FAC comes up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "to another village to see the body." Curly Turkey, did you catch the name of the village? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't remember if they named any of the villages within the actual movie---they were all fake names in the book, apparently, even though the book's non-fiction. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Neither can I. Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:20, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * afterlife - Do we have a good link for this? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not having any luck here, although it looks like there are entire books (in English) on death and the afterlife in Japan. I won't be the one writing the article, though. I don't see anything on ja.wp that seems right, either. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:33, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * All I've found is Yomi, which is probably not the right target. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * According to the ja.wp article, yomi is used to translate Hades from Greek in Japanese translations of the bible. I'll admit right now that religious terminology is not my strong suit, but I'm pretty sure that's not the article we're looking for. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:45, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Now that is just f***ed up. So we have a contradiction between the two Wikipedias... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't clear---the Christian usage wasn't the main usage, but I suspect the Christian translators choose to use it for a reason. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:57, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Scratch that---I just asked my wife, and it is what we're looking for. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Or at least, she considers it a synonym for ano yo, which is the word more commonly used in conversation. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If our article is describing yomi as hell, and if that is accurate, why would people want to believe in the afterlife? Or would this be the influence of Christian teachings? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:08, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know the sorry behind why the bible uses it as Hades---the normal word for Hell is jigoku. Christianity is not a Madhur religion here, and from what my wife was saying it doesn't sound like she was even aware of the biblical sense of the word. Having said that, I really have to emphasize that this stuff is not something I'm terribly knowledgeable about---my wife was picking on me for bringing it up because she knows I'm no fan of religious stuff---she was asking if I'd suddenly had a religious awakening. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:31, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Chuckle. My wife wouldn't ask me that, because she knows every time I go to church (or the mosque, or a temple) it is either to get the history of said institution or take pictures of it. Well, I GA nommed. Having a heck of a time finding Hisaishi talking about Departures though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What would really get the ol' battle-axe guffawing is if she knew I was asking for Wikipedia. I'll just let her think I've joined a Shinto cult. I looked around, and there are a bunch of interviews with Hisaishi, but they only mention Okuribito in passing, at best. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * My wife has mixed feelings about Wikipedia. When the chapter in Indonesia pays me to do some work for them (training etc) she's happy, but when I'm volunteering (i.e. most of the time) she hates it. Blast and blast the lack of information. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Oh well. This is already GA class, for sure, and probably at FA class more or less. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:12, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * According to IMDB, Bokura wa minna ikiteiru's English title was Made in Japan. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:13, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It must have had more than one title, then, because the Wikipedia article is at We Are Not Alone (1993 film). I didn't link it at first because the Japanese article was about the manga---I didn't notice it talked about the film if you scrolled down, and there was the interwiki link. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 5:26 pm, Today (UTC+7)
 * (ec) We've got an article on the film at We Are Not Alone (1993 film). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:27, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Using the romanization Bokura wa minna ikite iru. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, the space is technically more correct in a hairsplitting way, but we should probably use the English title if that's what the article's using. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've gone with that. I'm about halfway done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you want to keep the biographical information on Takita in the article proper, or move much of it to a footnote? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:53, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, if we're going to shorten the international reviews section, now is the time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:58, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sheet music. If you can transcribe the title for me I can get a reference from Worldcat. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The title's just Okuribito. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:31, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Isn't there a subtitle just under it, in red? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It just says "Music: Joe Hisaishi". Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:51, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Blast. Alright, I'll have a dive into Worldcat. (BTW, apparently Hisaishi has played the Departures music in concerts interntaionally; I've found a couple ads while hunting for information on why he chose to score this film) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:55, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, so Cello and Piano sheet music (2008), and an acoustic trio version (2009). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:58, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * At first blush I thought "piano trio" meant it was for three pianos (!), but it's for piano, violin, and cello. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 12:03, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for St. Joseph's Church, Semarang
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

A Crisco Sandwich for you!

 * Thanks. I can always count on you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Hilda Rix Nicholas
First of all, thank you so much for taking this on. I guessed there would be problems (there usually are with my images, though I'm getting better as I deal with more of them). I hope I've addressed them all now. But one more thing - can you review the last image in the article (The Summer House)? I've reduced it's resolution as per the others, but could use a check. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, sorry I missed it. I've replied at the nomination page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Maximilian von Götzen-Itúrbide
Should articles which have been deleted and then recreated have their revision history from the deleted version restored? Talking about Maximilian von Götzen-Itúrbide.--The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 04:17, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If the recreation is based on the deleted content, definitely. If not, it still can be (and I can do it for you). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Dhalia
I'd be inclined to start by desaturating, which'd eliminate the chromatic fringing. There's enough blur on it that you might be able to make pretty good progress from there without too much more work. Consider a despeckle, either selective or overall? Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure I did despeckle before uploading. Right now I'm still stitching some of these images from Semarang (so many errors!) so that sadly has to be put on the back burner right now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:01, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Frozen (2013 film)
Hello, I just wonder about Template:Did you know nominations/Frozen (2013 film), has it been shown at the main page in the DYK section or not? Because I nominated the article for DYK and I wasn't informed if it was approved. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:57, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep. It's currently in Queue 2. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:59, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That's good, but someone should have informed that. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It says on the nomination page that the hook was promoted (to prep). After prep is queue, after prep is main page. Nominators/writers get two notifications: one at the nomination page once the hook has been promoted, and one on their individual talk pages after the article reaches the main page). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Got it, thanks. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:53, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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A little bit of a surprize. There is a file about a blonde woman, nice https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Suede.jpg but on wiki it gives you this... File:Suede.jpg... Hm. What's wrong? Hafspajen (talk) 16:26, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Joy. I'll request a move on Commons, since that is very poorly named. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:28, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * One can find some truly weird pictures on the File:Pris - Flickr - Peter.Samow.jpg, File:Viktorianisches Picknick @ WGT2013 - WGT - Flickr - tm-md (137).jpg, commons. Hafspajen (talk) 17:06, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

What's this???
What's up with your edit to Template:Did you know nominations/Heber Hart? I don't see any indication of its being withdrawn. --Orlady (talk) 17:47, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * : confused me too, but reading over Wt:DYK to see what I'd missed, the nominator said It will cause no more havoc. Having seen way too much dramah over it, especially the most recent underhand post-consensus changes that were made without informing any of the discussion participants, and that introduced basic errors, I have pulled the nom in its entirety. Neither it, nor I, will return to DYK. - SchroCat (talk) 15:48, 25 June 2014 (UTC). Shame to lose a good and experienced nominator, but I think Crisco was right to pull it based on that. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  18:13, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Right, Schro's comments at both WT:DYK and his own talk page are very clearly a withdrawal, even if he didn't post such to the nomination page — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Too bad. It was an interesting little hook fact, and after all the trouble that so many volunteers went to, I'm mot sure that Schrocat had sufficient WP:OWNership to withdraw it. --Orlady (talk) 02:47, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * We have historically allowed nominators to withdraw nominations, for a variety of reasons (not to be patronizing; I know you know this). I fail to see why we should stop, especially when said nominations are obviously causing the nominators considerable distress. There are a couple discussions recently (not of my nominations, thank goodness) which I'd probably simply withdraw the nomination to avoid the headache if I were the nominator... that Ukranian one last month, for instance. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Nominated and not going to be nominated

 * Go, go, go, Crisco!!Hafspajen (talk) 17:09, 16 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The only one which has been in its host article for a week is the Dam. I might try in the morning. Past midnight now. G'night. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:10, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sleep well. Hafspajen (talk) 17:14, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

OK, it was the other guy. Hafspajen (talk) 01:19, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Sad thing
The unidentified dog. Mystery that will never be solved. Hafspajen (talk) 22:52, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

See category:Unidentified dogs... on commons. But what THIS ->File:Dog (2425274171).jpg has to do there..., I don't know - this is actually not a dog. Hafspajen (talk) 23:00, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the mystery is why people actually upload these images. :-s — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:50, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * My dear Hafspajen, THAT most certainly IS a dog! Why, ask anyone!  No one will tell you it is a cat or a goat!  Maybe we need a subcategory of "Unidentified sculptures of dogs"...  Or would that be, "Sculptures of unidentified dogs"??  Or would that be considered overcategorization?  So many questions, so many dogs, so very, very little time to sort it all out before someone comes along and removes the rather silly category "Unidentified dogs"!  KDS 4444  Talk  06:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. And how about commons nude women on the rocks? Hafspajen (talk) 11:11, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Fixing Queue 4
Crisco, whoever set up Queue 4 didn't do it correctly; the line that's supposed to be removed hasn't been, and the DYKbotdo template hasn't been added. If you see this when you log on next, and Queue 4 is still there, can you please fix it? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, that explains why it wasn't updating last night my time. Looks like another admin got it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:21, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

FAC
Hi Crisco. I have a FAC up and was wondering if you would like to comment since you were a big help on my previous one. Here's the link if you're interested.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 00:27, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Be right there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:34, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Preps
Want to promote a couple? I'd do it myself but I mostly built them. Gatoclass (talk) 05:57, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Never mind, Cas got there first. Gatoclass (talk) 06:00, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, was working. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:32, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

No sculptures
I urge everybody most seriously to take some sheets with you when taking pictures of sculptures. Unbelivable how many BAD pictures are on wiki on Sculpture.




 * Well... I really don't think it was SO bad... Hafspajen (talk) 09:34, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The French one is absolutely terrible and should be burned. The others are even warmer than the edit we featured here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Exactly. Hafspajen (talk) 09:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Crisco, you said that you were good at writing articles... Do you think you could add some more to thisartice? some refs,, This tells us. ....Hafspajen (talk) 12:10, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe on the morrow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:53, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

A few words in Indonesian...
Hi Crisco- What does “tanda pembajaran jang sah” on this note mean? While it’s not my favorite design, or the best engraving, the condition is perfect and being from the first issue of Republic of Indonesia notes it does have EV… --Godot13 (talk) 07:15, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tanda pembajaran jang sah (Perfected Spelling: Tanda pembayaran yang sah) is literally "A valid/legal indication of payment", but probably better translated as "legal tender". — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW, I bought a scanner (finally, although it's nothing special... a Canon LiDE 110), so I should be able to add some banknotes from what I have at home. The Smithsonian will obviously have better specimens, but I can add what I can get (at the very least, as Eid is coming, I should be able to get uncirculated current banknotes [it's common for people to buy new money at greater than face value for giving at Eid]). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and nice to hear about the scanner. The Smithsonian collection pretty much ends in the late 1970s, so you would have better access to the newer stuff than me...--Godot13 (talk) 14:43, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll try and buy one of each denomination as Eid approaches. 2400dpi enough? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:45, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's the scanner I use: it's probably the best of the cheaper scanners; every other one I've tried has flaked out way too early. Like all scanners, artefacts can appear after a few years, but, unlike other scanners I've gotten, they don't appear after a few months. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:48, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I must have been lucky then; that's the only dedicated scanner the shop had . — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:56, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

A vegetable


Hafspajen (talk) 11:02, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That probably has a decent chance. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:26, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You can have it, Crisco, if you want it... Hafspajen (talk) 11:30, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * 3.5 is nice. A Flying gurnard. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:47, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You can have that too, Crisco, if you want it. You judge photos better. It is kind of nice with the lights and that fish's colours flying over the sand...Hafspajen (talk) 12:56, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ach, Those Hungarians... never put their images on commons ... https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:Tibeti_terrier.jpgand we need some Tibetan terriers.  Hafspajen (talk) 13:25, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't see the file. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:34, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ops., on Hu Wiki. Hafspajen (talk) 13:37, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And sigh. By the way, the only picture I dislike that Dürer ever made, it is this rino.. just personal dislike. Hafspajen (talk) 13:49, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That image? I'm not too sure it really is safe to upload to Commons. It's tiny, as if it were from a web source. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:54, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * To bad... We have only a few images on Tibetan terries. As far as my Hungarian allows me to read, it sounds like it sais Own work. Hafspajen (talk) 14:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * For a file like that, I wouldn't believe it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:07, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * But these aren't any better...

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 * You may remove them if you want... Hafspajen (talk) 14:56, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow, I see why the breed's position on Wikipedia pains you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:02, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Mmm. Hafspajen (talk) 15:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Delftsevaart in Rotterdam‎
Could you rereview this? I've made a small tweak. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Nice pictures of Semarang
Thanks for uploading beautiful pictures of churches! especially the new Gedangan Church :).--Rochelimit (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Great! I've got a history of the church on my bookshelf (published by the church itself, I believe) so I can add enough for DYK. Mind, I was planning on waiting a week or two... oh well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:50, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice! BTW I hope you can venture out again and take pictures of another historic Indonesian churches for the article List of church buildings in Indonesia (many blank spaces here). These Dutch churches are beautiful but undermined, so I hope with this article people can be more aware of these beautiful historic churches.--Rochelimit (talk) 16:12, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Certainly. Shame your list for Yogyakarta is lacking. Bintaran, for instance, is very beautiful but not nearly as busy as Kota Baru Church (AFAIK, although since most of my Catholic friends are ethnic Chinese that may be skewing my understanding). Kidul Loji is also quite nice, although I don't think the building is original anymore. There's a Protestant church, considered a Cultural Property of Indonesia, behind Mirota Batik on Malioboro Street, but I don't know its name. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:45, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes I have limited source for churches, I'm not even an expert on these. What I know is that mosques are overrated in Indonesia, and church persecutions happened a lot. The authorities didn't do anything about it either. I think it's time for Church of Indonesia to be featured. I'll add those churches you just mentioned.--Rochelimit (talk) 06:11, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Excellent article expansion for Semarang's St. Joseph's Church! clap clap--Rochelimit (talk) 06:11, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I like the architecture of some mosques; the one just south of Prambanan is pretty interesting, and the mosques in the Kudus area are quite a sight. I just don't like the joglo-style ones... very hard to differentiate them from homes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:24, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If you like mosques please check and or revise List of mosques in Indonesia :D. Joglo style are more vernacular, so older and much more historic in a way. Those mosques in Maluku are even older and harder to find info (as so Moluccan churches). Kudus' Hindu style are too Indian, and the usually modern domes are simply too Middle East. Never knew about the one south of Prambanan.--Rochelimit (talk) 09:24, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I wonder if this is the Mirota Church you meant--Rochelimit (talk) 09:30, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's the one. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:05, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Some day when we have a clear afternoon (2 p.m. ought to do for lighting) I'll try and get a shot. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:02, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikimania
I can't get to Wikimania this year (I'm singing the Judge in a rock version of Trial by Jury for a Fringe show), but if you're coming, do swing up to Edinburgh after or before, and I'll show you around. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:02, 28 June 2014 (UTC) ...Come to Sweden or Copenhagen next year with the Wikimania... Hafspajen (talk) 14:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Shame, I'm not doing Wikimedia either. I've got a conference in mid-August, and parents are coming down for my graduation on 14 Aug. No time for international travel. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:06, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, well. Next year? Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:42, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Here's hoping! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:47, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe it's scheduled to be held in Mexico City, Mexico. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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Photochroms
Mind helping me select, say, a half dozen photochroms to work on? Here's what I'm considering:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsc.03809/ (Uspenski Cathedral, Helsinki) - Advantages: Much better view than in article. Disadvantages: I'm not entirely sure the age adds anything, since there's no evidence that the surroundings have changed enough to make it unreplaceable.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsc.03803/ (Bridge to Georgia) - Advantages: Lovely, probably historic. Probably has an article. Disadvantages: Finding that article likely very hard.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2001697447/ (The Convent Solovetskii, Kola) - Advantages: Gorgeous, probably damaged during Russian Revolution. Disadvantages: Can't find an article.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.03037/ (Interior of [[Rüstem Pasha Mosque|mosque Rüstem Paşa, Constantinople, Turkey) Advantages: Gorgeous, obvious article. Disadvantages: Article well-illustrated, might be too much of a detail, not enough change since photochrom?

There's a lot of photochroms, mind ye. I'm sure there's many gems in there. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:46, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Although,, that said... is amazing... It includes a clear picture of the holiest site in Mecca. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:54, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Those are lovely. Sadly, my browser doesn't seem to be willing to cooperate right now. Perhaps because I'm stitching an image of the Great Mosque of Central Java... 16k pixels wide. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:23, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised at how many of these appear to be from Eastern Europe. I don't think I've seen anything else in the first ten pages. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:33, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd presume they scanned them in whatever order the boxes were in, and that they were organised by geography. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:26, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:54, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Deletion review for MICE industry in Thailand
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Sekotak kurma untuk abang!

 * Selamat Ramadhan juga, Hanamanteo. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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Re: PR for Skelton
That would be great! So who puts it up at PR? :) We hope (talk) 04:05, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd appreciate it if you would list Skelton at PR and this way, I'll learn "the ropes" of going about this. Re: Subway Sadie, what a shame the film may be lost as they really went all out for it. Silver Slipper Club in NY.  And now, while you might be thinking about lunch, some of us here in North America are thinking about rolling it up for the night. ;) Thanks! We hope (talk) 04:49, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for putting Skelton up at PR! Recently found an article with more detail about Carl Hopper, who was both a model for Clem Kadiddlehopper and a boyhood friend of Skelton.  Will add it to the article as a note.  We hope (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! I think those are good choices as Skelton was also an "old school" type of entertainer. We hope (talk) 01:07, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Just got here this AM. :) Will work with the PR comments and do the fixes-thanks! We hope (talk) 12:28, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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I don't know what I have done, but my antivirus program said you have some bad files on your coputer, we want to remove them, do you allow it, and now suddenly have MSN coming up everywhere, where it was Google before, such crap. Blast. What have I done wrong? How do I get rid of this stupid search engine? I want Google back.Hafspajen (talk) 12:58, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure. I'd ask at WP:Reference desk/Computing — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:19, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Mischief Makers FAC
There have been some updates at Featured article candidates/Mischief Makers/archive1, if you have a moment to take a look czar  ♔   18:56, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

,,
I just found one good sculpture ... on my own talk page, and said to myself, glory, that one is good. But it looks like it is too late... Hafspajen (talk) 14:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * LACMA may have more, y'know... if they're releasing some high resolution images in PD. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:34, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have seen that, LACMA on filenames on many god pictures. What is that? Hafspajen (talk) 14:42, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Los Angeles County Museum of Art, in the US. They put professional images in the PD sometimes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:45, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * AHa, thanks for the idea. Hafspajen (talk) 14:57, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

CRISCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Hafspajen (talk) 15:27, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * He does have a point. Do we have any good male nudes from the same period? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:35, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * NO, and this one is just bleeh. And it is taken like yesterday. (we have some bad ones, yes) Hafspajen (talk) 15:39, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd stick with it until we can find something better, at the very least just to avoid the stress. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:41, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * OH, . File:A. Male Nude photo 3.jpg, which one do you prefer? File:Male .nude by Kargaltsev-1.jpg ... Hafspajen (talk) 15:42, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Neither, to be honest. I somewhat prefer the lighting in the other one. Alright, I'm off to bed. 'night (or, 'day over there). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, that was a joke. There are no good pictures. Removed that one. Hafspajen (talk) 15:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Har har (and of course, I tried opening those with my wife in the room...) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:52, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, if I had a wife I would't show her things like this... One never knows...
 * Trust me, it wasn't deliberate. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:22, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

And this? Sculpture.. any chance? File:Château de Versailles, galerie des glaces, antique, Mercure.jpgWife safe too... Hafspajen (talk) 00:24, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * For the page? Or for FP? For FP, definitely no. For the page... I don't think it's modern enough for that section. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:26, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * OK; chuck him. Hafspajen (talk) 00:36, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Have you noticed the artist in the cristal ball? Hafspajen (talk) 09:52, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep. I do like that effect. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Now you know how hopeless it is with dog pictures. Any of these? Hafspajen (talk) 10:19, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Sadly, I don't see anything which really says "FP" to me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:39, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Shame that chameleon is in a pen! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * God, set our chameleons free... ! Hafspajen (talk) 11:08, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Re: crab: composition and lighting are very nice, but there's too much JPG artefacting (zoom in to 200px on the image). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:42, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ach, ack ah. Hafspajen (talk) 11:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe I should ask you to delete this ...Hafspajen (talk) 00:32, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:58, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Hipp hipp hurra! Konstnärsfest på Skagen - Peder Severin Krøyer.jpg
Thank you for your contribution! Hafspajen (talk) 01:06, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries Hafs. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:33, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Prep 4
... is ready for promotion, if you can spare the time. Gatoclass (talk) 16:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, was asleep. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:20, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * It's still waiting ... 3 hours overdue by now. I've already checked and verified all the hooks - I don't want to promote myself because I built the set. Gatoclass (talk) 03:23, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Still waiting? F***. Sorry, hectic morning. Done now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:26, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Commons category
Is there anyway to search commons categories or even Wikipedia categories that I have created?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:13, 29 June 2014 (UTC) Thanks. This going to help clean up most of these categories.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Search for them, or search inside them? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:57, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Finding a list of categories that I've created. I don't remember all of them but would like to.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:21, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * This is for the English Wikipedia, this is for commons. To try it for anyone else, or any other namespace, just click the "New search" button at the bottom of the page and then fill in the parameters. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * For instance, this is all the files I've been the original uploader for on Wikipedia: 1 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well actually that list also contains files you promoted to featured picture statues (like: File:Common Kingfisher Alcedo atthis.jpg or File:S.M. Küstenpanzerschiff Ägir - restoration.jpg). Armbrust The Homunculus 13:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair point. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:10, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Deletion
Can you delete File:Samuelwilderking.jpg? It is an orphan non-free media and I found a PD image to replace it. Even though the non-free version depicts the subject as governor, we can't use non-free fair use images if a PD image exist.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:32, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm supposed to wait for 7 days, so not just yet. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:27, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

To crop or not to crop (actually how much to crop)...
Hi Crisco-

I got pinged about one of my images nominated on as there is a crop request. The suggested crop seems a bit much but I'm curious what you think.--Godot13 (talk) 18:02, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

bit less Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 1 July 2014 (UTC) (that was meant to be page stalker).Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Definitely a bit looser than the suggestion. Add another... 200 or 300 px on all sides, maybe? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafspajen, LOL! I tend to agree. Cropping so that the window in the wall is cut takes away from the vibe. I'll do something, but not as aggressive as suggested. thanks!-Godot13 (talk) 00:44, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree. Sometimes suggested crops work out (File:Farmer harvesting rice, Kampung Rawa 2014-06-20.jpg, for instance), sometimes not. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:46, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, you need that void, air.. to float around... to make impression. (can anyone tell me how to print page stalker? that Portugese thing is rather silly) Hafspajen (talk) 00:46, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * *whisper*Hafs, it's tps — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:54, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Van Gogh
Just wanted to show you that van Gogh can be very different, and it doesn't show up in on our article. Hafspajen (talk) 20:28, 29 June 2014 (UTC)




 * The almond blossoms look almost Japanese in style. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:21, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, told you that they were influenced by Utamaro and other prints, those impressionists. Here you can see Monet's dining room, all yellow walls and - decorated with Japanese prints ; Mont's home and the best garden ever is his...Garden here they mention it here ->Fondation Monet in Giverny but Monet's Garden ... that is not a garden.  Hafspajen (talk) 00:24, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Have you seen the house and the garden? Hafspajen (talk) 10:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC) If, I who is a landscape architect telling you that it is one of the most beautiful gardens in the world, will you look? Hafspajen (talk) 11:16, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Haven't had the time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:58, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * They are absolutely gorgeous. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:34, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Absolutely gorgeous, that's the word for it. Hafspajen (talk) 12:29, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Just did it. Hafspajen (talk) 14:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, no worries. Lovely scan (did you see the new picture I added above? A dock). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, YES. Wonderful. I mean that boat... how old can that be? Hafspajen (talk) 15:12, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it! The boat's probably not too old, considering how rarely those things are preserved here. I'm about... 1/3 of the way through my pictures now, I think. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:15, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I am sometimes really envious when looking all those pictures you take... What wonderfull enviroments you have around you. And all the great places you have been visiting. would probably crop of that green sign with the colorful boat Hafspajen (talk) 15:22, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, just take a white paper and cover it for a second, as I did, and you will notice the difference. Hafspajen (talk) 15:37, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but I rather like the current composition. It shows how the water continues, at least a little bit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:26, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * As you wish. Noticed the man between the ladies? Hafspajen (talk) 23:34, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep. You seem to have developed quite an interest in ukiyo-e. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:38, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Not exactly developed it right now. I was interested in Japanese prints for a long time, I love Hokusai and Utamaro, always did. Hafspajen (talk) 23:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah! I agree, many of them are quite lovely. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Love the lines, the patterns, the simple and precise way of conducting the pen .. makes them unequaled among other artists. And actually the only decent erotic depictions one could show to wifes. Hafspajen (talk) 23:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Doesn't this old Japanese screen look very van Gogish? Hafspajen (talk) 13:20, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, quite. Shame the scan is so small. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes. Now you can see, that the impressionists and van Gogh were inded influenced by Japanese art. Hafspajen (talk) 13:41, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco, do you really think that the three beauties are some unsignificant work by U? I am affraid this comment will put off people when voting, if they know nothing about prints or his art... I think that it is quite well known, too. All books that I saw about him do present this work, actually. one of his finest works using a new way of composing Compare with other worksHafspajen (talk) 10:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I said "not as well known" as some others, but I may be incorrect. Curly Turkey is much better versed in ukiyo-e than I am, so he can scream at me if I was wrong. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, we can ask him,. Hafspajen (talk) 10:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW, Hafs, you might be drawing fewer reviewers because there are so many paintings up right now. Pacing is key. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:55, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, perhaps. But I think that it might be the comment that is an insignificant work combined with C.O.M.C. comment that there is already an Utamaro in the Featured pictures that it made it unpopular. But this is a different composition, three women in   a triangle by Utamaro.  And if you look at the category Featured pictures/Artwork/East Asian art, there is no such picture there, and actually Bijin-ga (worked a bit on that artice as well)  is rather poorly represented among our Featured Pictures of East Asian art-> Featured pictures/Artwork/East Asian art. And THAT is WEIRD, considering how significant part that is of Ukiyo-e.  Hafspajen (talk) 11:12, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

You are right about that, too many stupid nominations going nowhere and just clutter up everything. I did withdraw Madonna on rocks, removed that (hope it is what one do). Hafspajen (talk) 11:34, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Just removed it? It's enough to write "I withdraw this nomination", and it will be closed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:54, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're asking---is it if the Three Known Beauties (or whatever translation) is a well known Utamaro? I don't know how I'd rank the well-known-ness of individual Utamaros, but I'd at least say it's reprinted fairly frequently. For instance, I've got Ukiyo-e no Mikata from the library by my bed right now, and it reprints it as one of seven selections in the Utamaro section. But then, it's not in the twenty-seven selections in my copy of Ukiyo-e: 250 Years of Japanese Art. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:59, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems you got it... alright, Hafs, let's just let the nomination run. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:02, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Tried to nominate it on FP urgent, but I got only a red link, for some reason. (I think I understand your comment now... what I meant, rather unclearly - that UTAMARO was the very best ukyio-e artist on feminine beauty - but it sounded that the PRINT was the very best... Hafspajen (talk) 12:15, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Fixed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Basil
File:Sant Basil The Prayer.jpg This picture say that it has a permission to use. Why are they deleting it now? here discussion Hafspajen (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Haven't a clue. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:18, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Boenga Roos dari Tjikembang
Beautiful reading, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

What is this?
File:John Tyler.png - It looks to me like a photograph of a copperplate engraving or drawing - the eyes look a bit strange for a photo, as does the ear; the cravat looks very sketchy, and it does rather look like there's engraving-style shading on the cheeks. Your thoughts? Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:36, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I suspect you are correct. It certainly doesn't look like a photograph of a photograph. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:42, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm. But then, the direct source, http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/brh2003000209/PP/, says it's a photograph of a daguerrotype. I'm now in doubt. Do you know much about daguerrotypes? Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably not as well-versed as you are. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:30, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not particularly knowledgeable about daguerreotypes either but it's definitely got characteristics of both an engraving/drawing and photograph. The facial features are not particularly photographic looking, particularly the eyes and the hair and the way it is significantly sharper than other parts of the image, but the way the focus fades away on the right side of the frame suggests a photograph. My guess is that it was a daguerreotype that didn't really turn out as intended (perhaps the subject moved too much and became blurred) and was subsequently touched up to enhance the detail. How exactly it would be done to a daguerreotype, I couldn't say. &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  10:35, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Prep
Crisco you about? There's a prep needs promotion to the Queue. Gatoclass (talk) 11:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, caught me just as I was ducking out. Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:25, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) Gatoclass (talk) 11:56, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Buy your tickets in time
Hafspajen (talk) 11:28, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That's ***MY*** photo. ;-) &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  11:30, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Great shot. And wish we could FP-it. Yeah, shadows and all that, now who said that there are not allowed? Hafspajen (talk) 12:38, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, is that the line to buy tickets to Rock Trial at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, starring, amongst others, Adam Cuerden as the judge? Coming this August, don't miss it! ;) Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:27, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * More seriously, great image. Though I've always wondered: How come panoramas are never done as a sort of dolly shot? Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, there's a good reason why panoramas are never done with a dolly. The subject would need to be completely two dimensional. Any deviation from two dimensions would result in a stitching problem due to parallax. The animation in the article shows the problem pretty clearly! &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  13:37, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, on a semi-related note, I've considered doing a high resolution panorama by moving the camera against the glass of the Rosetta Stone at the British Museum. I've never been able to do it properly because there are just so many tourists crawling all over it every time I visit. It does work in theory, and I've almost managed to do this with another similar stone at the British Museum, but not quite perfectly enough to publish it on Wikipedia. The problem starts to come into play when you reach the edge of the flat face at the top right corner of the Rosetta Stone where it falls away to the rear of the camera. You would need to make sure that there isn't more than one image covering this section or you would encounter parallax problems. So basically it would require quite a lot of measurement and consideration of focal lengths, distances to subject, etc etc to really pull it off professionally. &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  13:47, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * [Unindent] Ah, of course. Although you might get away with it if the parallax was small enough, though that has its own issues, such as stitching dozens if not hundreds of photos... Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:31, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Unless Diliff's found a 500mm lens with a 30cm minimum focusing distance (that's, what, 5x macro?), I doubt he's going to hit 100 images with what he's proposing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Universal Triple Crown
You might want to check your FPs: after noticing a bunch had gotten promoted in, of all things (given I would have thought the subject was mainly of interest to English speakers), Persian Wikipedia, I discovered a lot more than I thought were already eligible to claim. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I'll have a look once RL calms down a bit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:42, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Heinrich
Apart from an enquiry at Milhist about his war record, it's pretty well on hold at the moment. We are moving soon, after more than 20 years where we are, so RL means that it will probably be autumn before I do anything serious on this now. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  05:23, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Re:POTD notification
Thank you! The caption seems ok to me! --Jaqen (talk) 09:05, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

FP Sets
What's the deal with en:FP and sets? I see some current "set" nominations but is this a formal thing like the one on Commons (which has got itself all confused and temporary suspended). I'm wondering about nominating the three photos at Sony Alpha 77 II as a set. -- Colin°Talk 21:00, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Since, unlike Commons, we allow as many nominations at once as is reasonable, it's a lot freer than at Commons. And Commons has always tended towards excessive bureaucracy except where it's actually needed. Anyway, long story short: Go for it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:32, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You basically just add all three and say "this is a set nomination". No special templates or anything. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, but then are all being considered as full FP nominations? Does the whole set fail if someone thinks one pic is "meh" and do they consider the aspect that they are stronger as a set, or judge completeness? It sounds more like someone is saying "here's a bunch of similar pics I took/made, and think they are all FP" (with the restriction that they must all be in the article). Do you think this set would be strong enough or better just a single nom? -- Colin°Talk 06:35, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've ever seen a set fail for a single image, and I think (though I'm not sure) that only those particular images would fail if there was much opposition (rather than the whole set). For the purposes of credit, one image = one credit, not one set = one credit. For the purposes of the main page, how sets are handled varies widely. Howcheng appears to have generally selected a representative image, or made a collage (see the Extermination of Evil set's main page appearance here for an example), whereas I've been either making collages, having images in a set run separately when each element is notable (like Adam's restorations of illustrations to the works of Tennyson) or using a more complicated system in which images are selected randomly every time the main page is purged (such as the recent Hawaii overprint notes here). In other words, historically not all images in a set have made a main page appearance, but there's a movement towards allowing sets to show in whole. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll give the set a go and see what happens. Do you think anyone would be concerned that a front-page appearance might look like an advert. Would that be a valid reason to oppose? I could play the NOT:CENSORED card here, but I'm no fan of that policy as I believe it to be widely misinterpreted. -- Colin°Talk 08:29, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * We haven't generally had an issue with images of photographic equipment so far. The recent Dustforce trailer did have some people suggest they'd rather not see it on the MP (citing advertising concerns), but very few product images seem to get that response. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:28, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Matanuska Glacier mouth.jpg
Could you deleted the local file from File:Matanuska Glacier mouth.jpg? The Commons description can't be seen because of that. Armbrust The Homunculus 12:46, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:48, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah... although I thought admins can delete the file without removing the history of the page. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:20, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I could probably have tried that... let me try again. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:24, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK nom
Hi Crisco, I'm afraid I've come to ask your advice about DYK again: at Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of the Bahamas, a few days before the expansion started an IP added some unsourced stuff regarding colours' significance, and this was removed: the nominator said to use this version to start counting characters for 5* expansion. Is this OK? Sorry to bother you, and thanks in advance, Mat  ty. 007 16:23, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe it's counted; last I checked, DYKSG only allowed former copyvios to be ignored. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey Crisco. I'm not here to argue over which version to use, but when expansion began.  DYKSG D8 says 7 days "means seven days old in article space".  The simply way to determine whether its eligible is would it still be eligible if I had kept the text added on June 25 and expanded from there.  Unless I'm mistaken it still would, since the expansion would've began on June 25 and ended on July 2 (7 days).  I don't think I should be penalize for removing the initial text added, since it was done within the allotted 7 days, when anything can be added or removed as long as the end result is 5×. —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:53, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The article as you found it was 1418 characters. That your expansion begin with removal of content is not particularly pertinent, as poorly sourced or unsourced information is not automatically excluded from the character count (otherwise I could have nominated, say, Gita Gutawa after expanding the article). The current DYK rules only exclude copyvios, as happened with The Shirelles (in my experience; there are others). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:34, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I found it that way, and it doesn't really matter. I'm not arguing over the fact that I removed content, and I don't care about whether it was unsourced.  I agree with you, it should count – as part of the 5× expansion I finished.  The original article was 598 characters; the IP expanded it to 1481 characters on June 25 and within 7 days I completed the expansion to over 5×.  The IP started the expansion, I completed it – that's why I put it under the June 25 DYK date, not July 1.  If you're insisting that I must use the 1481 character version, then I'll have to reluctantly give the IP credit as a co-expander so that it'll "count" as starting on June 25, even though I feel they don't really deserve it. —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:09, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Wait, let me make sure I've got this... you are stating that this is a 5x expansion based on a date a week before you yourself started expanding, as by using the addition as the point of reference for the addition (even though none of the IP's additions were kept) this still meets the age criteria? If that's correct, it's a very non-linear approach to the DYK ruleset, and also very allowable. As for whether the IP should get credit, I agree with you: no. Nothing was kept. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:22, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Precisely – you've got it. The only thing from the IP that I'm using is the date he started expanding, without keeping what he expanded.  My apologies for not being clear in explaining the situation (granted, it's a really complex one for me to put into words) and for using such unorthodox methods at DYK.  As a sidenote, wishing you a belated Happy Canada Day! —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:07, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much to both of you for explaining for me, I understand now. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  18:16, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Semarang pictures
This'll be a bit of a loading bay for some of my better uploads from my trip to Semarang (if any stalkers want to have a look) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:08, 20 June 2014 (UTC)


 * That's the last batch. All done! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:22, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Great images of the Mosque, but the nasi goreng made me hungry...-Godot13 (talk) 06:31, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafs was tempting me with about three dozen different dishes on another talk page, so I've been hungry since breakfast — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:33, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't usually do desserts as I prefer cheese and biscuits but I'll have some of the Kiwi pudding, please ... it looks scrumptious.  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  08:42, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Har har. It was scrumptious. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:49, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Yo
Hey man, I'm sorry that I wasn't available for reviewing your article. I recently got caught up in a lot of work in my job, so I haven't had time to be around the site as much as I wanted. I'll do your review right now and try to get it out in an hour. Is that ok with you? URDNEXT (talk) 12:25, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, the Skelton PR is still open. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:38, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Dog file name mess
Hafspajen (talk) 17:53, 4 July 2014 (UTC) King Charles Spaniel is not the same as Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. A Cavalier is an other breed. Hafspajen (talk) 17:56, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Commons. I can't move them on my own. I'd have to follow the same steps you would. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:23, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * EH, where on commons. Could you point me right? Hafspajen (talk) 23:27, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * On the top right of your screen, where the "move" button would be in Wikipedia. You just need to fill out a request form. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:30, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't have move rights? I do. But can you tell me exactly where to move them to and why? Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:39, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I fill in above. Hafspajen (talk) 23:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The trouble with the Pointer is the file name's in Spanish, and I don't like forcing foreign names to English if I can avoid it. Any suggestion? Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:03, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Is the last image fine being at BlenheimTn.jpg? Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:06, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, of the first two, which filename is preferable. We can easily move things from one filename to another then delete the bad named one, but I need to know which. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:09, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Can't speak Spanish, but it sounds to me like it say St Bernard.(?) But at least the file description should say the dog is a Pointer, because it is an unmistakable Pointer, alright. Second file name preferable. --Hafspajen (talk) 00:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I've already nominated "on Great South Bay Long Island" for deletion as it appears to be the later duplicate (or was uploaded under a false "own" claim). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:10, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You mean you will now delete both? Hafspajen (talk) 00:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, just the one. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:23, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * OH, SIGH. LESS NERVOUS NOW. Is the last image fine being at BlenheimTn.jpg? Yes, but the file description is wrong. It should be Cavalier. Hafspajen (talk) 00:26, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll fix that last one. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:32, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * WHAT nudes? These are naked, yes, but they are dogs. All dogs are naked. Hafspajen (talk) 13:59, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * When you had an issue with the article Nude (photography). That one. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:06, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, those... but those were ... sculptures. Hafspajen (talk) 14:08, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The ones in this thread. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:14, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Comments on Gemini
I thank you for those comments on Gemini (2002 Tamil film)'s FAC page. Just wanted to know if you have anymore. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:29, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I completed all I will be doing (the image review). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:49, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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Impressive
Nice credentials, man. You really have done it all. Erik L&#39;Ensle :) (talk) 13:00, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:13, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Umbul Temple
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DYK for Kampoeng Rawa
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Battle of Öland FAC
Since you provided helpful comments and/or reviewing in related quality assessments, I'm dropping a notice that battle of Öland is now an FAC. Please feel free to drop by with more input!

sincerely, Peter Isotalo 05:44, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I did? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Just because-

 * Awesome. So when do we have the FAC? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:34, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Give me some advice, please, as to when to do that. I guess the PR needs to be closed before that, right? We hope (talk) 13:36, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, close that (following the instructions at Peer review/guidelines then nominate following the instructions at WP:FAC. You may want to mention the peer reviewers with this ping system, or leave them personalized notes on their talk pages, to let them know that you've gone to the next step, and you may find you get more reviews if you review other nominations. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

OK-did all of that (right, I hope). We hope (talk) 14:15, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Whistling in the Dark 1941.JPG This turned up the other day--would it be overkill in the article? We hope (talk) 14:20, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I gotta say, I love how MGM didn't start copyrighting their posters and stuff until much later than other studios. You might be able to rework the filmography to include that image. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * If you read the fine print on some of the posters and cards, they say that the item is the property of X Films and must be returned after the local theater is done showing the film. Guess many believed they would get all of the PR material back longer than others. ;) We hope (talk) 14:36, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, perhaps. Although even copyright noticed posters have similar fine print. I've... kinda uploaded a lot. I recently populated this category, and I may be missing some. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:38, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

What I did notice, though, is that they seem to have left the lobby cards alone longer than the posters. While you might find the film's poster marked, the lobby cards weren't. This is why I try to put as many lobby cards into Commons as I can. We hope (talk) 15:04, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I noticed that too... perhaps they thought (correctly, by the way lobby cards are treated) that there was more value in the posters? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The posters probably cost more to produce too, so they were protecting their bigger investment. We hope (talk) 15:30, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Good point. The art is considerably more involved for the posters I've seen than the lobby cards (there are several films for which both were free in my uploads... it's really quite shocking how different they can be). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:32, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Never thought I'd see Lovelace and Laurel & Hardy in the same category.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 15:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the category's a bit ... uncertain of what genre it's in . — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:58, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Head of Nefertem
Crisco, I was wondering if you could address the image licensing issue raised here; it's outside my expertise. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:45, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied. That was simple. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:58, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

What is this article about - ?
List of animals representing first-level administrative country subdivisions... No references, no explanation. Hafspajen (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised Washington's not an FP yet! That Toraja girl is lovely; I really like their traditional clothes. As for the article, it's for cities, towns, etc. which have a "mayor" that is an animal. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:30, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * A mayor that is an ANIMAL? Like that cat in USA? Texas or where it was. (Go ahead and nominate it...) Hafspajen (talk) 23:54, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, basically. It's a list of those animals who become mayor / whatever. (FPC is still really full with paintings. I'll wait) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:57, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Its all yours. Hafspajen (talk) 00:00, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * How about the girl? Hafspajen (talk) 00:01, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * She seems to be looking past the cameraman, which is a big drawback. There are a couple of interesting images in the article, but I'm not sure any of them could pass. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, wait, those animals are like state birds or whatnot. Not mayors. Sorry. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:57, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * HM. Cairn terriers for Japan? What's the connection? Hafspajen (talk) 01:02, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Not for all of Japan, but for Ehime Prefecture. I have no idea if that's true or not, though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:05, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * .Sounds weird. The Cairn terrier is originating in the Scottish Highlands... Why not an Akita Inu, a Japanese dog? ? Hafspajen (talk) 01:08, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I know, very weird. And very unreferenced — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:11, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Very! Do you know any Japanese you can ask to check it out? Hafspajen (talk) 01:18, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * At most, Curly, but he seems quite busy right now. That list is problematic, but I'd focus on something more pressing... like the breed article, perhaps? Anywho, I need to go to work. See you! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:19, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Nothing on Google about Cairn terrier - Ehime Prefecture and this is the only thing about dogs - Ehime Prefecture - It is probably vandalism. Work on. Hafspajen (talk) 01:26, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, Deep sigh. And we get exited about Michelle while this is going to main page? Hafspajen (talk) 23:10, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe because there are no pictures? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sometimes I think modern artist ARE NOT normal. There was that Russian guy, naked too, on a leash, biting the visitors... Oleg Kulik was it. Hafspajen (talk) 00:38, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, that was a joke the greyhound. Even if it didn't went down well... Hafspajen (talk) 02:22, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Departures (film)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Departures (film) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 19:21, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Protection?
Hi Crisco - I have to ask about the protection on the article about the Isla Vista killings. By my count there have only been four edits to the page by four different editors in 24 hours. Though the edits have opposed each other, four days of full protection seems like pretty severe overkill - especially given that no single editor has made a change back or forth more than once. I honestly hadn't even noticed the previous edits in making my initial change - I was just going through a category removing inapropriately catted articles. Best, Kevin Gorman (talk) 01:40, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Three days. I went straight to that number as there is a long history of edit warring over that category (including a visit to ANI, I think), and figured it was better to nip this in the bud entirely and let everyone work things out. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:43, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Denmark Street
I notice your log of GA reviews lists Talk:Denmark Street/GA1 as "Failed : rejected by nominator". That sounds like a mistake, but I thought I'd check with you first. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:24, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:46, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Wreck of the U.S.M. steam ship "Arctic" (one-third-size).png
How would you deal with the weird sky on this? Tempted to shove it into my queue, but I'm not quite sure how to manage this one. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:32, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd try and find a better print, to be honest. That's one of the Arctic images that I thought would have little to no chance at digital restoration. Aside from the weird sky, there's so much dirt on this that people would think the LOC rescued it from a puddle. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Mengenai pengguna baru
Bang, kok saya perhatikan beberapa (atau banyak) pengguna baru sering menghapus tag hapus yang ada di artikel yang dibuat oleh mereka ya? Saya sering memasang tag hapus di artikel yang tidak memenuhi kriteria kelayakan (kebanyakan dibuat oleh pengguna baru), namun beberapa pengguna baru seringkali menghapus tag hapus yang saya pasang, oleh karena itu saya mengembalikan suntingan mereka. Saya juga sudah memberitahukan ke pengguna yang bersangkutan, namun kebanyakan pengguna baru masih saja melakukan perbuatan yang meresahkan tersebut. Bagaimana cara menghadapi pengguna-pengguna seperti itu? Terima kasih. Hanamanteo (talk) 07:36, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Tag penghapusan yang mana? Di Wikipedia yang mana? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Wusss, cepat sekali abang menjawab pertanyaan saya! Begini, di sini, saya memasang tag hapus di artikel Harmonisinkron karena belum memenuhi kriteria kelayakan, namun dihapus kembali oleh yang membuat artikel tersebut, kemudian saya kembalikan lagi suntingannya. (Mengenai alasan pengembaliannya yang aneh, itu karena ketidaksengajaan saya, saya tidak menulis alasan pengembalian, namun tiba-tiba ada alasan pengembalian yang aneh). Di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, masih di artikel yang sama, saya memasang tag hapus, namun sang pembuat artikel menghapus tag hapus yang saya pasang, karena saya kesal dengan perbuatan yang bersangkutan, jadi saya kembalikan suntingan tersebut. Hanamanteo (talk) 07:51, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, jadi templat penghapusan cepat. Memang dia tidak diperkenankan untuk menghapus tag tersebut, dan karena itu boleh dibalikkan. Ada suatu bot yang menandai apabila ada orang yang menghapus tag penghapusan ketika ia seharusnya tidak boleh. Artikelnya sudah saya hapus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Terima kasih atas perhatiannya! Hanamanteo (talk) 07:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

This?

 * Crisco, somebody said that a file I nominated should be cropped, and I don't know, what to say. Hafspajen (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Have I done something ? Hafspajen (talk) 04:54, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, nothing to offend. I'm just busy with RL right now (writing a paper for a journal at my university). I did reply to the FPC issue though (although I'm waiting for a reply there before I actually crop). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:00, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you think that line can be croped of? (We can put - cropped by Crisco on it..) Hafspajen (talk) 20:28, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Let me have a look. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

By the way...
Neat fact: Last year was my most productive year for featured picture restorations ever. I'll be tied with it once my current two close. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:13, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Very nice! Almost at a hundred now? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:54, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I haven't been doing that many sets, so 63. Probably will go up a lot faster once I start my next set. I'm doing a lot of difficult, fiddly stuff at the moment. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Very nice. By my count I'm at 22 self-nominations (by far my most productive year yet) and 28 nominations of works by others. Quite a ways behind yourself and Godot, but still quite respectable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:24, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I don't keep track of nominations of work by others, so I can't tell ye the stats for that. And it's very respectable, especially given the amount of article work you do. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:45, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've still slowed down considerably though. User:Crisco 1492/DYK1 was filled up in 13 months. User:Crisco 1492/DYK3 took 2 years and a day. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:47, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Wilbert_Robinson_1916.jpg
In this image, what would you do with the black intrusion, upper right? Also, do you think that's mud on his shirt, or photographic damage? Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Judging by how the ink has run out of the border, I suspect it's not in the original photograph. I'd remove it. As for the specks along the button line of his shirt, I'm tempted to say most of it is mud (notice how it's more faded than the obvious photographic damage). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Yelp
Hi Crisco. I just wanted to check-in to see if you would have time to review the rest of the Yelp article sometime this month(ish). I don't mind waiting until whenever you get around to it, I just never know if something is on an editor's "To Do" list or if I should try to find another editor to help that may have more availability. CorporateM (Talk) 17:23, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I should hopefully be able to make my where there today. I've got to take my motorcycle to the garage, however. Sorry, I've just been very busy with my wife's new post office. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:52, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What kind of bike? I just finally gave mine up, since I moved to a less hospitable climate for it. CorporateM (Talk) 03:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Scooter, really. A Suzuki Skywave. Getting to be older than some of my students, but it still runs pretty well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Watermark
Hi, can you delete the original upload for File:Prescription for Romance.jpg with the watermark? Cheers. Will review your film article shortly.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:57, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Departures (film)
The article Departures (film) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Departures (film) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 10:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

A Barnstar

 * Thanks Adam, although I must say I was already blushing when I saw your Merapi blurb. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:58, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Si Ronda
You're probably sick to death of hearing from me, but I've just left one final suggestion at the FAC review, after which I'm done. Eric  Corbett  12:29, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries, Eric. Be right there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:31, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Drakengard FAC
Hi Crisco, would you mind casting your eye over this one? I know video games aren't your thing as far as article development goes but OTOH you have brought an experienced and dispassionate eye to several game noms, and if you can do so here I think it would round out the review nicely. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:42, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll try and have a look on the morrow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:45, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Quick look
As if I haven't been enough of a burden on you with the Yelp page, I thought since I knew you have been online recently I would ask if you had time to take a look at this IP edit on another page where I have a COI. The user added a Controversies section for a recent event, citing a blog post, a forum post and some kind of self-published Linux enthusiast site. There are some decent, though fairly minor sources for a company this large that could be used to add a sentence under Recent History, but I think the edit is a pretty overt recentism, undue, V, NPOV, etc. etc. problem. CorporateM (Talk) 17:35, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree. Removed for now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:31, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK queue overdue
Crisco, not sure whether you have time, but Prep 3 is ready for promotion, and we're over four hours overdue for a new hook set to go to the main page. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:46, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

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Ubuntu
Greetings. One of your recent edits just popped up on STiki, presumably because you removed a lot of content. Your edit summary said you were removing the extra translation, so I'm assuming that the massive removal was a mistake. In any case, I've reinstated it for now. If that was what you intended to do, apologies, and feel free to revert me. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:45, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. It appears my connection didn't load the full article. I hate when that happens. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:48, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Nom
My experience with DYK was probably not the best(4/8 passed). Recently I created an article, Dogs in the United States, it will be good to nominate? It exceeds the limit, I still got 2-3 days, it can be largely expanded. But honestly since I am the creator and you have to be involved anyway, I can hope that things will go smoothly, but not sure what you think. Also, what you think?

Thanks  Occult Zone  (Talk • Contributions • Log) 06:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a very general article, the type I'd expect to see at 3k or more. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:54, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Surely, thanks for the input.  Occult Zone  (Talk • Contributions • Log) 06:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Yet more advice sought
User:SchroCat asks me offline if I know of any public domain images of Alastair Sim, on whom we are both separately working. If I have correctly absorbed the WP rules from you and User:Loeba (heroic in your efforts on my behalf chez Richardson and Gielgud), if one can dig up an image that was published in the United States between 1923 and 1977 and without a copyright notice, it is in the public domain in the US. I think all these can be shown to fit that description, as the uploaders have obligingly reproduced both the front and the back of these press photographs: here (1), here (2), here (3), here (4), here (5) and here (6). If you have five minutes, would you be an angel and check them out, to see if I have got the right end of the stick? Best wishes,  Tim riley  talk    23:26, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Considering the amount of the text in this one, I'd avoid it. Still possible for there to be a copyright notice in the WB's text on the front of the image (since it's so small, we can't quite confirm). Same goes for this one, just to be safe. The others are good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:36, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What would we do without your skill with images! Thank you so much,  Tim riley  talk    07:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Always glad to help! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd probably avoid this one too; I seem to remember that the Culvers notice carries a restriction. - SchroCat (talk) 09:42, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Better
This picture has an alternative upload, called better - - 2,893 × 3,949 px instead of the 750 × 1,024 pixels in the current pic, but I don't know how to use that one instead. Hafspajen (talk) 15:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What do you mean "I don't know how to use that one instead"? In the article? In the file page? Whatever the most recent upload is, that's the one that shows up on Wikipedia. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand. The almond blossom picture is not the same as it was before. I can notice that. It is darker somehow and Coat said something that s/he changed that. I don't know what or why, but it looks - darker. File:Vincent van Gogh - Almond blossom - Google Art Project.jpg. Can somebody overwrite the file? Hafspajen (talk) 19:35, 13 July 2014 (UTC) No, s/he said that, but it didn't happened. The image is different still, the FILE is not what it was - if you look and compare with the ones below, look down on the files. It is not the one you cropped - it is not the same file NOW that is  dispayed - that was displayed on the nomination.
 * Looks like Coat self reverted. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

It is NOT = 3,139 × 2,480 (4.82 MB)/ Trim black border /Crisco 1492 that is shown when file used but = /3,532 × 2,786 (2.54 MB)/ Coat of Many Colours/High resolution version from Vincent van Gogh Museum/ Correcting error in crop. LOOK down at the, and check and compare, one can notice it that that it is not the same. It is different now. It is a different color. It is a different picture than it was before. Hafspajen (talk) 04:42, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Are you sure that's not just a caching error? You might have to purge the cache. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:50, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I purged. this is what Coat say: I hope I changed it back to Crisco's trimmed file. I had problems reverting and in the end I just downloaded and re-uploaded his version. I think that one is gone. Hafspajen (talk) 04:53, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I've reverted the normal way. Okay, gotta go. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:55, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Crisco. Oh, this is to much exitment for me. I might avoid that page for a while. Hafspajen (talk) 05:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

?
How many pixels has this picture? File:Botticelli 04 Louvre.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 08:05, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That Botticelli image is 2,893 × 3,949 pixels. The first upload is essentially hidden in the history. I have no idea what Coat is doing with that comment. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:28, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Dartford Crossing
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Files PD in the US but possibly not elsewhere
My understanding was that PD-US files can be kept here but not at Commons. Because of that, I marked the ones I had with the "no Commons" template. The following files have been tagged today for PUF:


 * File:Ronnie Aldrich 1969.JPG
 * File:Val Doonican 1971.jpg
 * File:Alexandra Bastedo The Champions 1968.jpg

I've just G-7-ed the following:


 * File:Bob Hope Jo Stafford James Darren Jo Stafford Show.JPG
 * File:Dudley Moore Peter Cook Kraft Music Hall.JPG
 * File:Marty Feldman 1972.JPG

And I guess this one should be G-7-ed too-


 * File:Photo from The Great Ziegfeld 1936.jpg

Am honestly ready to say so long. We hope (talk) 01:56, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You're correct, PD-US files that are not free in their source country can be kept on Wikipedia (as I noted at the deletion thread, though under a different file): "While Wikipedia prefers content that is free anywhere in the world, it accepts content that is free in the United States even if it may be under copyright in some other countries." (emphasis mine) at Non-U.S. copyrights. I think that the deletion nominations were mostly spurious (a couple Russian POV ones were obvious keeps). I didn't jump to the defense of Aldrich as I couldn't see proof that this was published in the US (which would be required for "no notice"). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:10, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * The Aldrich file is from his record company, London, and has 1970 use stamps & a note that the photo was to be filed in the respective print medium's library. We hope (talk) 02:14, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * But is any of that clearly US? That's the question. The ABC one with Bastedo should be fine, as should the Val Doonican. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:16, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hard to say as both London and Decca labels were distributed in both countries--first thought is the Stones on London in the US in the 60s. What to do about the ones I g-7ed rather than go through the mill? We hope (talk) 02:25, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd remove the deletion tag and wait it out. I've already !voted keep on the Doonican and Bastedo images (odd how the nominator thought those were screenshots...). We might lose Aldrich owing to uncertainty over where it was published, but better to lose one than three. (Besides, Red's not done yet... he's got a week left, maybe) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:27, 15 July 2014 (UTC)



OK--undid my "doings". :) Don't know where the thought they're screenshots came in as I always do front & back of the photos. No idea why the sudden zeal for the don't move to Commons files but hope poor Danny Thomas and Howdy Doody will survive. :) THANKS!!!! We hope (talk) 02:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Here's hoping! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:39, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Now we need a good laugh--yep-this is who you think it is. We hope (talk) 02:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC) John Wayne Laugh In 1972.jpg
 * Oh my. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It was too good not to upload. Some further research shows that Ronnie Aldrich was sold in US on London and on Decca in the UK--have added that to the file & PUF listing. :) We hope (talk) 03:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And I've weighed in there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

UK PD images
Hi Crisco, would the two images in John Gregorson Campbell be UK/Scottish PD? I uploaded them from archive.org books published in 1891 and 1895? A query raised in the GA review suggested it might be better to make them 'local' and mark 'do not upload to Commons' but I have no idea how to do that? SagaciousPhil  -  Chat  09:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC) PS: the red mist has cleared ...
 * When did Griset die? Who took the Campbell photograph? Do we know? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Re the photo of Gregorson Campbell - the book only indicates it is one of the few available and shows him in "middle life" and the illustration is just by E. Griset - I don't even know if this is the same guy as it isn't listed under his works there?  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  09:49, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Similar style, so you could probably argue that it's the same Griset (in which case it would be PD-100 and thus safe for Commons). For the Campbell image, I'd recommend PD-anon-1923 (it's on Commons). Also free and safe for hosting there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks you for your prompt help, much appreciated (as always!). I'll try to add those now.  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  10:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Always happy to help (especially when I'm feeling productive, like today). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Translations
You said "Curly, looks like we're missing translated titles for a couple of these" (Obviously, as a committed Buttinski I read "Curly" as "Belle" ), but I could only see one (and a "help please"). You can point me at others or ignore me and wait for Curly. And of course I won't get upset if Curly wants to re-translate anything (I'll be too busy planning my vengeance to be upset) Belle (talk) 10:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL. As Curly has been my cohort since late May (I sucked him into seeing the film *evil smile*) I had written it for him.... but now that I know you speak Japanese, next time I can write Curly/Belle . I think it's just those two... I'll double check to be sure. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:30, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Just two still missing: Eiga Ranking Dot Com "『おくりびと』の詳細情報" and "奇跡の"番狂わせ"!?　『おくりびと』はなぜ外国語映画賞に輝いたのか!" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * First one is "More details on Departures", the second one I'll have to look at the context as I don't understand the first bit. Belle (talk) 10:46, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that one's been added in. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the second one is 'Miraculous "upset"!? "Departures" is crowned the best foreign-language film of the year!' (The punctuation is still confusing me but I think that is journalistic hi-jinks.). Belle (talk) 13:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad to see journalistic standards are the same everywhere. *wink*. Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:10, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Wilbert Robinson 1916.png
Okay, what's left on this one? I'm thinking the white spots on the right hand side, but what else? And should I crop the border or change levels? Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd crop at least to the white border, but that's me. About 600px to the left of his left ear (viewer's left) is what looks suspiciously like dust or dirt from the lens. In the same general area is what I'd consider a bit of dirt or something from the lens as well. (And yes, those white spots look to not be part of the image). Can't say anything on colors as I'm not home right now. Otherwise great work as usual. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:27, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice! The belt was the most interesting bit, I mist say: Whole thing was a welter of cracks in the emulsion. Think I worked out a rather effective way to use the burn tool and clone tool to fix it, but took ages. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:14, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad to help! Congrats on FP number... what will this be? 70? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I think this one will be 66, but then, I've also been concentrating on difficult images for a while, so... Also, I'm in the odd situation of having five images that are about 75% done, which is not exactly efficient. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm just glad FPC doesn't have the queue times FAC and FLC do... I'd go crazy if I could only nominate one image a month. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's one of the reasons I don't tend to bother with Commons' FPC. Two nominations every ten days or so is a pain, and that's presuming enough people vote on it in the first place, as it's very heavily dominated by photographers, who often won't vote on historical media. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:39, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Van Gogh Almond Blossom
I really did upload your trimmed version of Almond Blossom there! Check the pixel dimensions in the File description. I'm about to upload a separate file for the tiled version and at the same time I'll write a description and copy it over to the other file. But I rather suspect Commons won't allow me to upload it, deciding that it's been uploaded already. If that's so I'll be annoying you for some advice. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 23:04, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I know, it would have been hard for you to upload a file of the exact same size if you had changed it. I told Haffy above, but... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:12, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't understand how but it is not the same as the version that down there is called trimmed by Crisco. It is a darker shade. One can see the difference. Never mind, I am tired of that project, will stay away for a while. Hafspajen (talk) 23:50, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * As I said yesterday, I'm pretty sure that it's a page cache error. It might also be from the viewing angle of your laptop (I noticed that as I scroll down, the images at the top get darker). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * When viewing the file, one can see them all toghether the big one at the top, the versions below - and it is a difference. - can't be the angle of my screen (regular-not laptop). Hafspajen (talk) 23:55, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * They look the exact same to me, though, even at full resolution. Likely a cache error. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:57, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * But then it should affect everything. the No idea little picture had the same light blue, same as the old version - but now the nomination picture is clearly richer, more saturated - if one have a trained eye, while the little picture is the same light blue. OK, I will stop arguing now. Hafspajen (talk) 00:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course the "No Idea" image looked the same... it wasn't changed. The only one that was changed was the Almond Blossom image, and I think you ended up with Coat's version in your cache. Oh well, doesn't matter too much. Better to work with articles or images than discuss this to death. I saw an absolutely terrible dog painting, BTW. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Show me that. I want to see terrible dog paintings. Hafspajen (talk) 00:50, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It's -> — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:52, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, that, man, don't tell me you intend to write an article on it... The guy is .. well you know how he did that. another desperate try to make something to impress and stick out Hafspajen (talk) 01:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I intend to go nowhere near the article. But yes, it's a terrible dog painting. Feels as if I can smell something coming from my laptop when I open that file. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:10, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Once upon a time people were easily shocked. Now it is almost nothing left, if you want to make something to upset the bourgeoisie. so you have to start biting people or do things like this. Hafspajen (talk) 01:11, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Or biting people while doing things like this. Me? I'd rather make myself happy by uploading a free image of Trisnojuwono or writing an article on an obscure film (or more photography; my friend and I went to Gebang Temple for a "photoshoot" [not paid, I just asked her to model for me] and she gave permission for me to use one to illustrate the Lamaholot people article [though I intend to go to Lembata some time and get more "traditional" images]). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:17, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Lucky you. I think you have fantastic sites around you... Hafspajen (talk) 01:23, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I think we've all got fantastic sites, if we want to look for them. The Scandinavian coast... now that's a sight to behold. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:28, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Not where I live. Looks like this, flat. Hafspajen (talk) 01:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * LOL, if you call that flat, you've never seen my hometown. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Flat to flatish ... found no pictures of the real flat parts. Nice scan.... Hafspajen (talk) 01:50, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably because nobody wants to photograph the really flat parts. Back in Windsor, our tallest "hill" probably didn't even reach 100m. Indonesians don't consider calling something that small a hill, but damn it, it was ours for tobogganing and whatnot. Thanks. I'll see what other PD images I can scan. Maybe banknotes like Godot, though I want to get some in much better condition than what's in my wallet now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:55, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

It is like the Danish highest mountain - 320m or so. Hafspajen (talk) 01:58, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Found some. Hafspajen (talk) 01:59, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... with creative composition we could still get some good photographs of people, and the landscape itself is nice on a clear day. The farms in "Akrar i Skane Sverige" are beautiful, hands down. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I got the tiled version of Almond Blossom in OK. I do actually prefer the colour of the Google Art Project version, although the VGM had better definition. I explained the 'pale' paradox on my Talk page, but Hafs will have nothing of it ... erm, do you actually know me H? I mean I may have to file a report . Coat of Many Colours (talk) 08:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Coaty behave yourself, you naughty little thing. And next time you just put on ALT on page instead, promise? and no filing around, tsshhh Hafspajen (talk) 15:49, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the supposed error in In the news
Thanks for responding quickly. In your response, you said that country names in football are treated as adjectives. Normally, and correct me if I'm wrong, it would technically be "Germany's defeating Argentina" (had there not been the rule for football that you mentioned, since "Germany" would otherwise be treated as a noun). In the realm of football, would the phrase actually be "Germany defeating," "Germany" the adjective, and also, what then would "defeating" be? A noun? If it's a verb, that would mean that "Germany" would have to be an adverb and not an adjective. "Argentina" at the end is surely a noun, but I'm interested in the rest. Thanks, WikiWinters (talk) 16:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The way I see it, if we used "Team Germany" and "Team Argentina" (instead of the current Germany and Argentina), the possible discrepancy disappears. I definitely misspoke when saying it was an adjective, though (sorry!). Thinking it over a bit more, if I had to divide the sentence (and I'm out of practice) it would be "The FIFA World Cup (subject) concludes (predicate; end of independent clause) with [Team] Germany (subject) defeating (predicate) [Team] Argentina (object) in the final (modifier)."
 * The whole construct is meant to avoid the team = singular vs team = plural issue (i.e. in one variety of English, it's "Germany defeats", while in the other it's "Germany defeat"). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:31, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes a lot more sense, as "Germany's" would mean that "Germany" is being treated as a singular (proper) noun, and hardcore football fans, I'm sure, would find fault with that. Thank you! :D WikiWinters (talk) 16:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Any interest in working on this?
File:William Crooks at station.jpg Though the LOC didn't identify it, this is William Crooks (locomotive). By looking at the other Commons photos, you can see this is the train. If you root for the underdog, you've gotta like this little train built in 1861. The president of the Great Northern Railway (US) saved it from the scrap heap by appointing it his personal train. The train was brought out by GN for world's fairs and various rail fairs. It made the trip to the 1939 NY World's Fair under its own power-pretty impressive for an old guy. :) I've sort of been keeping a "where's William" scrap book at Commons. :) We hope (talk) 01:52, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * *looms in the background, waiting for Chris' answer* Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL, Adam. There's not really all that much to do there, by the looks of it (which is good) but I just got a translating offer (which is good for my pocket but not for restorations). Adam would probably get it done faster than I would, and he seems poised to take it on (already on his user page queue).. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Honestly, with all the difficult ones in that list, I could use a fairly easy one for when I go "Augh!" and need a break with quick progress. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:31, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I know, eh? I wanted to work on this, but then I found out that apparently it's not a government photo. Damn. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

The little old guy who stopped traveling in 1948 and who's now in a rest home thanks you both! :) We hope (talk) 13:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've started work on William Crooks. Barring me being too busy to finish it, I think it should be done tomorrow. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:00, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Question
Occultzone stated on their talk page, "Lets get this together. Since even Crisco 1492 had agreed that I wasn't wrong with the MOS:NUM, but he addressed that was no consensus and the page' style remained for ages. "  Is this true that you agree? I can't find it on his talk page, but there is alot on there I could have missed it. Also could have been mentioned else. Also, BrownHairedGirl just came by and told him stop changing dates. Bgwhite (talk) 20:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Occultzone has a curious affliction which leads him/her to misinterpret comments in a way positive to his/her position. No, no, and no: I never said the MOS supports him/her changing the dates unilaterally. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:29, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Images tagged Do not move to Commons

 * =1&templates_no=PD-US-1923-abroad%0D%0AOut+of+copyright+in%0D%0APD-HHOFFMANN%0D%0APD-US-1923-abroad+%0D%0APD-USonly%0D%0AFoP-USonly+%0D%0APhoto+of+art+%0D%0APD-ineligible-USonly+%0D%0AFoP-unknown%0D%0Apuf%0D%0Affd%0D%0AFrom+Commons&only_new=1&sortby=uploaddate&ext_image_data=1&file_usage_data=1 CatScan query]

Some help in brining the size of that list down to say about 100 would be appreciated.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 16:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not getting a link. However, I question the need to "get it down to ... 100", particularly by tagging everything an anything. This has already driven one editor to retire. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:32, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Imagings
Hey Crisco, you know almost everything. look at the images in Deckmyn vs Vandersteen--I assume they're legit, no? (If not, Template:Did you know nominations/Deckmyn vs Vandersteen needs your attention.) Anywayz, what was done there, can that be done for the image of Frau Antje in this article from Der Spiegel, for inclusion in an article on her and possibly in Erich Wiedemann? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:41, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Dr. Doom, looks like a valid FUR (though I'd combine them into one single collage). The image of Frau Antje is almost certainly copyrighted as the work of a living artist. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:36, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Sébah_and_Joaillier_-_Interior_of_Ayasofya_Mosque.jpg
What do you think of this so far? What still needs done? There's so much interplay of light, I'm not quite sure... Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:32, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Can't seem to make heads or tails out of the light interaction. The stuff at the top right rather looks like scratches to me, but I wouldn't hang my hat on it. There's some dust just to the right of the الله, and on the first column from the left. The floor seems to have some dust as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Right. Think I now have some idea how to continue this: there's a reason this sat in my folder for a year from this point of work. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:44, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL. Yeah, I remember seeing it on your talk page... dated 2013. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:46, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Departures (film)
Gatoclass (talk) 06:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Already understood
Nothing against but whenever you leave any messages concerning any discussion, try to be more specific to the subject you are talking about. Which '6 people' you are talking about? Interestingly you never get blocked for removing a spam link, but for repeated violation of basic guidelines. So far the only legible issue was about the datings, I did on 160 pages and about 145 were correct as they were related with American datings. I had rectified the rest and I had agreed on first sight that I won't be doing it on any non-american english pages. The issue probably resolves unless I am repeating the same thing. I agree that there was inconvenience, so apologies for that. Thanks  Occult Zone  (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Reread the AWB terms of use and the thread in which I made that comment. It appears you have not done either. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:36, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Done what? Didn't got you.  Occult Zone  (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:54, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Y-G-M
We hope (talk) 12:54, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Quick question (overlinking)
I'm currently using AWB. I should know this by now, but if a page is linked to in the infobox, does that mean that linking to it in the body would be considered overlinking? Thanks, WikiWinters (talk) 12:48, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've never counted an infobox link towards overlinking, personally. I generally go 1 in the ibox, 1 in the lead, and one in the body. Maybe in a photo caption if applicable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:03, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

POD, Euphorbia canariensis
Thank you Crisco 1492 for the note on my userpage. Cheers, Claude. — Preceding undated comment added 13:36, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Commons bit?
Do you have a Commons bit? If so, you could protect the image currently in the Queue so DYKbot will load it. Gatoclass (talk) 15:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, sadly. User:Materialscientist does, but I think s/he's usually offline at this time of day. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:31, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Uploaded and protected locally. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:33, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

File:SMS_Seeadler_cropped.jpg
By the way, that white \ is part of the stern, right? I can edit it out if it's not, but it looks like part of the photo to me. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:46, 17 July 2014 (UTC) File:SMS_Kaiserin_Augusta_SMS_Seeadler_1890s.jpg will give some idea. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:15, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Me too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Pretty sure that was the "damage" the oppose accused me of in the last nom, so... =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:08, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * To the soundtrack of Queen, dare I say. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:10, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Heh. Should actually do the image that's cropped from next. We have no other image we could even crop to a photo of Seeadler, but that photo also has another ship - I think Kaiserin Augusta - that's worth having a good photo of (and is also rather more the focus of the shot, since it's much bigger). Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:13, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... That would look nice. Though I'd opt for a more standard aspect ratio on that crop. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Kampoeng Rawa
Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 01:33, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Featured Picture Candidates
WP:FPC has presently lost its mojo. Edits not coming through. It often does that I notice. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 12:11, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably a cache purge problem. It happens often enough. I bet DYK and FAC are also affected. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That's funny. Recently the page updates for me rather quickly (even without purging the cache). Armbrust The Homunculus 12:16, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... odd. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:18, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It wasn't re-loading properly for me early on this morning and I had to keep purging the cache, something I hadn't had to do previously. I thought it might have been something to do with the funny box under the Edwin Landseer nomination (see how good I am at techical jargon "funny box"?)  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  12:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, nothing to do with the box. I expect it has something to do with a space before a comment,

like this — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:37, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Still not loading for me, my edits this morning not appearing. I've cleared my cache. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 13:21, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Still not appearing for me using a different browser and even after a computer restart (a major undertaking for me). Van you for example see this edit of mine on the nominated Raphael on WP:FPC? I can't, logged in or not. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 14:23, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I can see it (how useful, somebody not involved in the process can see it..let's have a party!) Belle (talk) 14:32, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Try to click on the "purge the page cache" link, just bellow the table of contents. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:39, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Belle, bit past partying I'm afraid. What can be the problem here? It's not the cache, not the browser, not the account ... what can it be ... ah, just back in on clearing the cache for the umpteenth time. It's a Firefox problem I expect. I swear I should change my browser, but I'm so fond of Firefox all these years. Thanks for all your time. (Armbrust - thanks: I'll try next time) Coat of Many Colours (talk) 14:42, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I used to like Firefox until it woke me up by setting light to my bins. Belle (talk) 15:00, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There's a box like Crisco 1492 mentioned between the Landseer nom and the SMS Seeadler, but I can't see where it gets put in. Maybe that is breaking it? Belle (talk) 15:06, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I made it go away (I'm like a technical savant sometimes, but most of the time I'm hitting the smoke alarm with a broom handle). Belle (talk) 15:12, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 15:24, 18 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Coat, are you still having problems? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:41, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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File protection
Any chance you could protect the file in Q3? The upload link isn't working for me. Gatoclass (talk) 05:30, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Internet's a little slow, but I'll get to it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:28, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Or not; already done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Shitty work
I need a second opinion on this. A very interesting work made by someone with one of the best usernames ever, Shitty_Watercolour. Its a bit on the small side but I could send an email to the artist to see if he has a bigger version of it. Though he himself uploaded the image on Commons but its still worth a shot. But again, I want to hear someone else's thoughts on the image. GamerPro64 15:48, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm tempted to say that there's a chance... if we can get the resolution. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:46, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * All right cool. I'll email Mr.Watercolour to see if there is a higher resolution of the image. GamerPro64  00:53, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Great. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:12, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way, how was your attempt at finding a replacement image for that "Monuments Men" image? Were you able to get in touch with them? GamerPro64  01:29, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Found out it wasn't a government work and thus possibly copyrighted :-s (and they said I should purchase from a reseller, which I'd much rather not). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well that's a disappointment. Would've been a great image for restoration. Ah well. Whatcha gonna do? GamerPro64  01:40, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It might be kept. If it is, alright, I'll go to restoration. If not... c'est la vie. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:42, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Hm
The Wings rolling Hafspajen (talk) 11:02, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This is just a little bit weird?  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  11:07, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Need article unsalted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilir_Latifi now passes WP:NMMA, could you unsalt the article please?
 * I didn't salt it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:49, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

City of Workers
How can I help you with City of Workers? Sca (talk) 01:37, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * If there are any German sources, would you be able to add to the article? I created it because otherwise that beautiful painting would have ended up at WP:POTD/Unused — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:17, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Kampoeng Rawa
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Kampoeng Rawa you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of TLSuda -- TLSuda (talk) 03:02, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Pemilih yang cerdas
Bang Woodrich, saya mau bertanya, mengapa jika memberikan suara pada FAC (APU), maka pengguna-pengguna di sini akan memberikan kajian yang mendalam pada artikel yang kita usulkan, sedangkan di WBI hampir semua pengusulan APU zaman sekarang malah tiada komentar sama sekali? Saya melihat ada artikel yang sebenarnya tidak memenuhi syarat sebagai AP, namun bisa menjadi AP. Ini disebabkan karena saat ini, di WBI, pengguna-pengguna yang memberikan suara pada APU (maaf) tidak memperhatikan apakah artikel yang diusulkan memenuhi syarat sebagai AP sehingga artikel yang sebenarnya tidak dapat menjadi AP dapat menjadi AP karena para pemilih lebih banyak memberikan suara setuju daripada suara tidak setuju. Khawatirnya, jika keadaan ini tidak dibiarkan, maka beberapa tahun ke depan AP-AP di WBI tidak lagi berkualitas seperti dahulu. Kenyataan yang sama juga terjadi pada ABU (Wikipedia:Artikel bagus/Usulan). Hanamanteo (talk) 08:16, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Barangkali karena jumlah artikel pilihan masih sangat sedikit, sehingga ada yang merasa bahwa tetap harus ada AP baru. Bisa juga mereka tidak mau menggunakan waktu mereka untuk membaca artikelnya secara mendetail, apalagi secara kritis. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:18, 22 July 2014 (UTC)