User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 55

Lovely unknown art
Why do they say unknown artist- on file description? Hafspajen (talk) 06:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC) http://artsconnected.org/resource/78510/forest - Citation: ''At the young age of twenty-seven, Katayama Bokuyo_ was awarded the grand prize at Japan's annual Imperial Juried Exhibition in 1927. The following year, he submitted this painting showing a weasel nearly hidden in a tangled bed of flowering fishmint (dokudani) deep in the forest. The judges were so impressed that he was given the status of mukansa, literally "non-vetted," meaning that henceforth any painting he submitted to the annual exhibition would be automatically included. Bokuyo_ championed a style of painting collectively known as nihon-ga (literally, Japanese style painting) to distinguish it from Western-style oil painting, which was gaining popularity in Japan. Nihon-ga artists used traditional subjects, formats and materials, but their approach often reveals some influence from the West. Here the logical recession into deep space and subtle color variations to suggest atmospheric depth are the result of Bokuyo_'s exposure to Western art. Nevertheless, the dramatically tipped ground-plain, reduction of motifs, and precisely applied mineral pigments are elements of traditional painting.''
 * Houttuynia cordata. Can't find anything on him, except dates (1900-1937) and a scroll of a fox. Checking out an Ohara Koson woodcut tomorrow. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 06:59, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, our art collector! Hunting for Japanese woodcuts nowadays? Hafspajen (talk) 07:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Katayama Bokuyo (1900-1937) was born in Onomichi, Hiroshima Prefecture, his real name was Kenzo. On the invitation of Nanga he moved to Osaka in 1915, and then to Kyoto in 1917, where he studied with Shoda Tsuru Tomo. In 1921 Katayama moved to Tokyo, to learn Japanese painting under Tsutaya Ryumisakijuku. He exhibited in the 8th Emperor’s Exhibition in 1927 and won first prize. Katayama exhibited his ‘’Forest’’ the following year, being passed automatically for exhibition. In 1929 Katayama’s work ‘’Monou fishing village Spring’’ won the first prize in the 10th Emperor’s Exhibition. After exhibiting in the 1931 exhibition Katayama fell ill, and was unable to exhibit again. source (in Japanese). Machine translation- not 100% reliable! Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 07:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This one is being offered with an English watercolour of flowers- the auctioneer hasn't identified it (and I only could because of a blog post by an expert on woodcuts). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 07:28, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * So, we need a Xanty to find out that - his real name was Kenzo. Hafspajen (talk) 07:31, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know- the Japanese artists and craftsmen change their names through their careers, but I don't know about him. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 07:34, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Curly Turkey usually knows a bit more than I do about this field. Shame we can't cite that blog. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:46, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That blog just quotes from the Minneapolis Institute of Arts. You can cite that. That translation above--what service did that? That couldn't possibly have been Google Translate. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:38, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, it was- with added wild-ass guesses Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 12:16, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

''In 2007 the dealer Jeffrey Cline sold a screen by Katayama Bokuyo (1900-37) to a major US museum for around $90,000 at the Haughton International Asian Art Fair in New York. Explaining that almost no us museums have 20th-century works of the pre-war period, Cline said, 'This is the first year we have seen significant interest for this material from US curators and we are now talking to five American institutions.' '' Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 12:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Hm, interesting. Houttuynia cordata is a monotypic taxon, very interesting to have a painting with a plant that only grows in Japan., you Japanese-Canadian, you help? Hafspajen (talk) 14:57, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, Xanthomelanoussprog, the guesswork of your wild ass deserves commending. The translation still needs work, though—some of the names were wrong (translation software will never be very helpful with Japanese names):


 * Bokuyō Katayama (片山牧羊; 1900–1937) was born in Onomichi, Hiroshima Prefecture. His real name was Kenzō (健三).  He moved to Osaka in 1915, began learning Nanga, then moved to Kyoto in 1917, where he studied with Kakuyū Shoda (庄田鶴友; 1879–1948).  In 1921 Katayama moved to Tokyo, where he enrolled in Suzuyasha, the private painting school of Tustaya Ryūkō's (蔦谷龍岬; 1886–1933).  He exhibited in the 8th  in 1927 where Oboro (おぼろ　"Haze") won a special honour.  Katayama exhibited his Mori (森 "Forest") the following year, being passed automatically for exhibition.  In 1931
 * This work (indicating Gyoson Shunrai 漁村春懶 "Lazy Spring in a Fishing Village" (?) to the right) was exhibited at the 10th Emperor's Exhibition in 1929 when Bokuyō was 29. It is a lyrical painting of a fishing village on the southern tip of Chiba Prefecture where peach and rapeseed blossoms bloom.  One can feel the tranquility in the expressions of the children and women cuddling infants.


 * It appears there were three "Emperor Prizes" given out at the time: one for "Nanga", one for Western-style painting, and one for sculpture. I assume he won for Nanga.
 * This source gives the title of Kagerō in hiragana, but other sources give it in kanji: 陽炎. Good thing it does, because kagerō can also translate as "mayflies" (with different kanji)—and the image of the painting isn't displaying, so I'd hate to have just guessed.
 * Here's a timeline of Bokuyō. It uses old-form spellings (pre-1946), so "かげろう" is "かげろふ".
 * Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 08:05, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Nashville
Could I ask you to save December 15 or 16 in the POTD queue for one of the last big battles of the ACW? Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:37, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't think I have anything else scheduled. Sure. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:39, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Twinkle
Hi,

I am stuck up with my Twinkle. Its just showing up the options, but I am not getting the task windows. Can you please see my documentations and check them and mend them if needed. Its not as a gadget for me (unchecked in preferences). Twinkle preferences shows- Before modifying your preferences here, make sure you have removed any old TwinkleConfig and FriendlyConfig settings from your user JavaScript file...Please help me..-- The herald  15:03, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't know about that. Have you tried Wikipedia talk:Twinkle? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:21, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Nom
have nominated a pic,  - but the original file is only ‎596 × 768 pixels,  replaced with google file - this needs to be deleted and an other one too - this - Featured picture candidates/Rubens Peale with a Geranium - an other try. Hafspajen (talk) 22:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * And this is also wrong - was a bit of a mess here for a while - - Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Brooklyn Museum - The Sisters (Eleanor and Rosalba Peale) - Rembrandt Peale - overall.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 01:00, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, gone. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:02, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Love Beneath an Umbrella in the Snow
We have lots of files on this but all pretty weird - not so nice ones - not even the big ones  - all with frames and stuff. Hafspajen (talk) 15:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC) http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/8913 Oh, finally! That's the way it should look like. This is one of my favourites. THANKS! Hafspajen (talk) 01:02, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Got it, Hafspajen. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:57, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:05, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

World Fantasy Award for Best Collection FLC
Hi, you previously supported the FLC candidacy of World Fantasy Award for Best Collection, before it was archived due to lack of comments. I've now renominated it here; would you consider swinging by and supporting it again? Thanks! -- Pres N  16:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! -- Pres N  01:57, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Good luck this time round, u|PresN, although you should be aware that FLC is very slow and quiet at the moment, with just not enough active reviewers to guarantee good lists have enough of a consensus to pass. Hopefully when I close your Nom this time round, it will be to promote! – SchroCat (talk) 09:23, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination review
This is my first DYK review. Please let me know if I did this right: Template:Did you know nominations/Kawasaki Ninja H2. Thanks, --Pine✉ 21:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Pine, a couple things: first, you're not supposed to promote the article to the preps immediately. A third editor will take care of that. Second, you need to explicitly state what you checked (i.e. "Length is alright, there are enough references" etc.) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Noted. It looks like everyone is moving on with the view that that nomination is OK, but I will make use of this information for my future DYK reviews. Thanks. --Pine✉ 06:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Something to think about...
Created 18 Jan 2014, went dark 15 Feb 2014, and was resurrected yesterday (at FP)...-Godot13 (talk) 02:47, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sound familiar?--Godot13 (talk) 03:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Great minds think alike. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:10, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Am I being paranoid?--Godot13 (talk) 03:08, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Only if I am too. I've reported it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * ‎User:64.9.157.141. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Crisco 1492: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –    The herald  12:01, 27 October 2014 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
 * Thanks Herald. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Re: Louie FLC
-- Wikipedical (talk) 21:38, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Crisco 1492: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –  Hafspajen (talk) 05:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message. PS: '''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgTcVZp6gT4 johnny JOHNNY, you were eating SUGAR AGAIN!! ]''' - c, c,c,c - Hafspajen (talk) 14:43, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Haffy! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:03, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Those kids look creepy... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Kids are creepy. Hafspajen (talk) 18:00, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You've got that right. Sometimes, at least. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:19, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Asmara Moerni
Good evening, Crisco. Now I'm working on the article mentioned above, and I have stuck on a sentence "Western motives, played in the native environment with specifically Sundanese decor". I don't know any Dutch, but via Google Translate tool, "Western motives" may refer to the script. In the Indonesian version, the word "decor"is corresponded by the word "suasana", which may interpreted as atmosphere - According to an online dictionary, the word "decor" can mean by the stage setup. (My friend also try to translate this by this definition; the word is not contained in my vintage Anglo-Chinese dictionary.) That is contradictory. Can you clarify what is the real meaning of the sentence? Much thanks, (P.S. Hope you will not be annoyed as I always have to find an advice from you - my Indonesian proficiency is very poor. I wonder if it's better to change the platform of discussion to Facebook - this is my FB site.)-- Spring Roll Conan ( Talk · Contributions ) 10:19, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've switched to "situation". Hopefully Drmies or another native Dutch speaker would be willing to give an even better translation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:52, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Might be "motifs" -Aldus een geheel naar Westersche motieven opgezet… where motieven can apparently be translated as such, but a cursory reading of the article suggests it might actually be motives, motifs being a bit abstract for a plot revolving around emotions. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you saying "motifs" is the better translation? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Motif (narrative) probably fits better. The "motives" of the characters seem pretty universal Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Xanty do you support one or both, by the way - since we fly away beside each other like this - the Inverness xxx. Hafspajen (talk) 23:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Crisco, I wish you a happy halloween, but I feel sorry that the specialist we encountered last time have complained that the Chinese version is not even qualified to appear in the DYK column. Though in zhwp DYK standard doesn't require a close link of each paragraph with the topic, he put down his comment that the paragraph "Legacy" is totally off-topic, and he belittle the value of this article as a FA, which sounds exhausting. Maybe I should change the paragraph's name in the Chinese version as "Consequences" etc., or do nothing - when one of my colleagues have done what I'm doing, the expert doesn't even come out to oppose - the structure is merely the same. That's double standard, right? You don't need to reply, I just want you to know what happens. -- Spring Roll Conan ( Talk · Contributions ) 17:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Meh. All of the sources available that are PD have already been put online (or, at least, those I've found), and if this "specialist" can write worth a damn, s/he is welcome to have a shot. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:21, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Christmas POTD
How about the Christmas Truce for Christmas or a day either side, presuming it passes? =) It's going to be a long time until the next big-number anniversary.

And, yes, I have been trying to fill major anniversaries of late. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:58, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Victoriaearle seems to be hoping to have the Nativity for TFA, so when that does pass FPC, we may as well save it for POTD the next year or the year after. Sure, sounds good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:18, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds ideal! Though I have the vague idea I have a Christmas or New Years' image in the queue already. Probably thinking of Auld Lang Syne. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:35, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I had to push that back a year, because we already had a similar image for the day before. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:05, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Queue 3 understrength, and special occasion hook would fit very nicely
Crisco, Queue 3 is down to six hooks—Fram just removed one—and it just so happens that the October 29 entry under special occasions (Locus iste) is perfect for that queue. It does mean that the hook should be given full scrutiny, promoted directly to queue, but if it hasn't been done when you see this, I hope you'll take a look. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:46, 28 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Crisco. I don't know whether you'd like to restore the "tree" hook to a now-understrength Queue 2 with the proper wording, so that queue can also get back to seven hooks? If so, that'd be great. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:32, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:13, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! BlueMoonset (talk) 17:08, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Crisco 1492: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –   Snuggums  ( talk  /  edits ) 21:21, 28 October 2014 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
 * Thanks, Snuggums! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:22, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Bonus


Hafspajen (talk) 19:49, 28 October 2014 (UTC) Chilling beside the road... watching trains ... IS THIS spam? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christmas_card&curid=170506&diff=631497536&oldid=631488147 Hafspajen (talk) 01:15, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * How did Dario discover Darth Vader way back when? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:23, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Very much so. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:25, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * saw you removed it thanks. Interesting what this became =   Hafspajen (talk) 01:59, 29 October 2014 (UTC), see under

Hello, and thank you for lending your time to help improve Wikipedia! If you are interested in editing more often, I suggest you create an account to gain additional privileges. Happy editing! Hafspajen (talk) 01:58, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween scare!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Crisco 1492: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –   Hafspajen (talk) 02:21, 29 October 2014 (UTC)  Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message. 

Happy Halloween!

Hello Crisco 1492: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –   Hafspajen (talk) 02:21, 29 October 2014 (UTC)  Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
 * I suspect the scariest thing would be the prices of these paintings. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:42, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Jonathan Kurtiss
Crisco, there's an image use question on this nomination review, having to do with the article's infobox image (a screenshot from a TV show). Can you please stop by and answer it when you get the chance? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Question ... for my esteemed expert
Hi Crisco, as always I come to you as my expert about copyright/licences! I know that if an image was published in a book in 1908, it would be US PD, but is that status effected if the artist did not die until 1954? The file in question is. If it is okay, would there be any chance you could crop that caption out of it, please? I did try but the crop tool won't let me play with it ... SagaciousPhil  -  Chat  13:40, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * What's the source country?
 * USA, I think?  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  19:16, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If that's true, it should be free. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:04, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks, just wanted to double check.  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  23:15, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

O'This?
Hafspajen (talk) 14:41, 29 October 2014 (UTC) Oh, just wondered if it wouldn't fitt into FP lifstyle os such-`?
 * I'd expect an OTRS ticket indicating that this is, in fact, uploaded by the copyright holder. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:47, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This File:Pompeo Batoni - William Fermor - Google Art Project.jpg thing has a dust bunny on his face - wonder if this is the reason why people stay away from it - or what. It is a good painting, by the way. Wonder if that dust can be removes, will you help me ? Hafspajen (talk) 18:49, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The image is fine, technically. Needs the copyright to be clarified though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:01, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * HOw? Thought these were free? Hafspajen (talk) 23:10, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I meant the hotel image. The uploader is using the hotel's name, but may not be from the hotel. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:14, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I added "no permission" tags and posted a message on his talk page. J e e  02:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jee. A lot friendlier than what I'd have done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:28, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Otto Perry
Are you up for a discussion of his railroad photos? Many are held by the Denver Public Library and they don't offer any type of PD license for them. Some time ago, there was quite a heated discussion about whether the photos had to go because of not being PD; we still have quite a few in areas where so far there's been no PD photo to replace them.

Perry was a real train buff; those who take rail photos as a hobby often swap photos they've taken with others, and he was no exception. The hobbyists most often had/have their photos printed on postcard forms and use some kind of ink stamp for their ID. I found [http://www.ebay.com/itm/San-Francisco-Overland-Limited-Steam-Train-Engine-1941-Durham-Wyoming-real-photo-/261644379244? this] recently and spent some time online at DPL trying to match it; wasn't successful, so this is an Otto Perry photo that is not part of the DPL holdings. From the ink stamp and the postcard stamp box, this was taken during the time frame Perry listed and is his work. Bottom line--can we think about using this and others as PD since we can see the card back and so on? In the case of possible DPL duplicates, I'd think having the back of the card would be enough proof that the photo didn't come from DPL without permission. Thanks! We hope (talk) 13:48, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * For those which were definitely published (like this post card), I'd expect it to be PD in the US for lack of a notice. Duplicates from the DPL are still the same image, and so they don't have a new or separate copyright (assuming they are duplicates, of course) and can thus be used. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:55, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You don't know how many of these I've passed by because I was afraid of a) stirring up the old issue and b} running afoul of DPL's policies. Well, no more! :) Thanks! We hope (talk) 14:01, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Betty May
Crisco, I've been asked to "opine" on this nomination, but it's in an area I don't feel comfortable opining, dealing with a ghost-written autobiography's claims, many improbable or likely enhanced. The old "merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative" approach, apparently, but on steroids (and before there were steroids). If you're willing, I'll let you read the arguments (the positions are clear from the most recent icon, I think) and weigh in. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:17, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied.... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you muchly. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:50, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Hall - o- ween Scare


Hafspajen (talk) 01:43, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Tricks

 * That's one confusing fish. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:52, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 October 2014



 * Read this Signpost in full
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 * Unsubscribe
 * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:30, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Moreelse
Oh, that's not you in the Improved version? Sca (talk) 16:02, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, never. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:39, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

puh

 * Hmm.. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:53, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Dispatch (sternwheeler)
Crisco, I was hoping you could please take a look at this one and perhaps get it moving again. I can't, because I proposed an ALT hook; my idea of an interesting hook and the nominator's seem to differ by quite a bit. At any rate, you'll note the possible issue with my wording, since I don't have access to a key offline source, and much of the article is based on newspaper stories or ads, which makes any attempt at an article narrative quite difficult. I'll let you decide where it stands and what to do. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:33, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Request edit
Hey, do you think I can borrow you for a minute to take a look at this very small request edit asking that a couple sentences be added to keep the page up to date? user:Guy Macon just did a few of my request edits and I realized this one slipped my mind - it's been in the queue for 6 weeks.

Also as an FYI for the McKinsey page, user:FreeRangeFrog seemed to be suggesting here that I might be better off putting together a GA-ready copy/pasteable draft than handling things piecemeal. I explained that many of the corresponding edits may be controversial, but did put together an annotated draft here with all the remaining edits I think would be needed to make it GAN-ready (once reviewed I can remove the annotations to make it copy/pasteable).

Regarding images, I was pretty impressed with the results of the photoshoot I did of various Purina dog food products, but they decided to try to get their own professional photography approved for Creative Commons. (I thought mine were better :-p) CorporateM (Talk) 16:12, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, heck, if they are willing to donate, that's very useful. I'll do the Hightail thing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:25, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I find it to be a lot easier to work with a completed draft, rather than piecemeal changes, even if some of the changes are controversial. I carefully go over the page checking references and looking for bias, edit any problem areas I find (usually not a problem with user:CorporateM's work), and publish it. Quick and easy. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:25, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh, put that sallad to the left, will you..
MM.... Salad... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:09, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you
Hey Crisco_1492, thank you so much for nominating my shot of the Long-billed curlew at Drakes Beach for featured picture. It was not an easy shot: after leaving our home very early, I spent quite some time at the beach finding good subjects. Then, almost two hours later and with the first groups of day trippers arriving at the beach, I came across this curlew. Now, shooting at a beach means you really need to get low and probably will get wet… (see my blog post that features this image). And someone on the ground making funny moves attracts dogs… Well, let's just assume, I'm lucky that I got this shot ;-) So, thanks again for picking and nominating it. This means a lot to me. --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 00:18, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * A pleasure, really, Frank. Strangely enough, North American birds are underrepresented at FP, so if you have any more that you think have a chance, feel free to nominate (or point me in the right direction ). (On a side note: my experience with shooting insects is the same... my poor jacket's getting worn at the elbows)
 * Adam: Perhaps the Signpost could use a bit about the challenges of bird photography? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * @Crisco 1492, wow, that's interesting. I didn't even know that. I'm living in Strawberry, which is close to Richardson Bay, an Important Bird Area, and also close to Point Reyes National Seashore. That, and the fact that I find wildlife photography more challenging than other areas brought me to photographing birds for Wikipedia. Due to my current job, I didn't have as much free time recently. However, I promise you that I will keep shooting :-) --01:21, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * @Adam, if there's anything that I can do to help bringing attention to this need for more photos of Nord American birds, please let me know. --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 01:21, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * @Frank: Yeah, most of our bird featured pictures are from Australia and Thailand (and are the work of JJ Harrison, a very talented photographer). Some 200 in total, I believe. Europe and NA are behind that, and SA and Africa (and much of the rest of Asia) are barely even represented. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:58, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Question...
Possibly stupid... what is a "salted redirect"?--Godot13 (talk) 04:22, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * P.S. Very cool dance photos...--Godot13 (talk) 04:23, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * One which has been deleted and then protected so it cannot be recreated. See WP:SALT. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:24, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Kind of thought it was something like that based on context, thanks...--Godot13 (talk) 04:35, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Should have one or two going through FPC in the next month. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:24, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Looking forward to them.--Godot13 (talk) 04:35, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK: Five preps, no queues
Crisco, if you could take a look at DYK and promote a prep if no queues are filled, that would be great. Next main page changeover is at 12:00 UTC, currently a bit over six hours away. Thanks for whatever you can do, should it still be necessary when you see this. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:40, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:34, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

If you thought comics and politics didn't mix, think again
File:Friend of the Comic People 1906.jpg Bumped into this at LOC a few minutes ago. The TIFF file as downloaded and saved is too large to upload at Commons. We hope (talk) 19:40, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Said there TIF can be uploaded through Chunked uploads. Will do so now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * See, We hope? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:44, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks! What do I do to be able to "chunk" uploads? We hope (talk) 13:15, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The instructions are at commons:Commons:Chunked uploads. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:14, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Now I know why I never saw this--don't use UW as a rule-Thanks! We hope (talk) 15:03, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Hm, nice.
The above. Hafspajen (talk) 03:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Should be considerably more soon. I've got pendet, and tari duduk (or what was it called... something duduk), and a couple others as well. Oh, and a cassowary cendrawasih (bird of paradise) dance. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:07, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Very expressive. Hafspajen (talk) 18:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm really glad, though I do need help writing them for the signpost - they're hard to describe. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Definitely, though several of these need articles first. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:38, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

J Milburn
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Adam_Cuerden&diff=prev&oldid=632174780 - what the hell is going on with him of late? Let the Wikicup turn toxic, and then turned on anyone complaining about it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:32, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I've unfollowed that page... might be the less stressful path. Sorry I can't give a longer reply, I've got to get ready for a workshop. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

POTD possibility
Hi Crisco,

If possible please schedule as POTD on 28th Jan 2015. That is the birthday of the cute artist performing it. If possible, please make it on that day.

Regards:  Bellus Delphina     talk   14:59, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, I don't think we have anything scheduled yet. Now at Template:POTD/2015-01-28. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:04, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW, if you have comments on the dance images I've uploaded (see above) they'd be more than welcome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:05, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much :)


 * About your uploads, to be frank, am not a supporter of cropped images of a performance because I feel the crop will reduce the EV when it is coming in connection with the particular art form. In case of highlighting the artist, it can be a cropped IMO. Anyway, a very good collection I have seen here. I did not see the articles related with it but I will see and I will add if anything touching me.


 * I have 2-3 another POTD suggestions, I will add it here, if you don't mind but all are not very near dates.


 * Thank you so much once again.


 * Bellus Delphina    talk   15:21, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Cris,
 * I am not sure about the dance form but 17 Years of Sekar Jepun 2014-11-01 11.jpg and 17 Years of Sekar Jepun 2014-11-01 03.jpg are very nice to me.  Bellus Delphina     talk   16:01, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Bellus. I was using a 100mm lens (the fastest one I've got), so even getting the dancers into frame was a bit of a challenge; had to stand something like 10 or 12m back and hold the camera up high to avoid getting the crowd in the images. File:17 Years of Sekar Jepun 2014-11-01 03.jpg is definitely going to be an FPC candidate in the near future, once I confirm that it is, indeed, legong. I'll have to ask my friend about the other one, the one with the man (only two male dancers during the whole performance, believe it or not); didn't catch the name.
 * Feel free to leave any suggestions you have here. Arundhati is already scheduled for her birthday, and we've got the Bharata Natyam dance scheduled as well. So long as there's at least a month or two between dance images, we should be fine (spacing them out is a good idea, because we only have a few). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:00, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I am also searching for clicking various dance forms for making FP. I hope will come more from my side too.

Bellus Delphina    talk   17:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Remember to reduce the exposure compensation a bit when shooting; that will allow faster shutter speeds, and thus hopefully less blur. If you check the EXIF information on the images I shot, they were at speeds such as 1/125 and 1/200 - more than enough to keep sharp even when the subjects were moving. The noise introduced in post when fixing the exposure comp is generally less than what you'd get by increasing the ISO. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll try my level best to capture very sharp picture by increasing my Shutter Speed. Thanks fro the help once again.
 * Bellus Delphina    talk   02:20, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

ANI notice
Hi. You have been mentioned at ANI in section Long-term copyright concerns: User:Light show. Your participation would be very welcome there. Please note that with current archive practices it will archive after 36 hours of inactivity. After its archival, the conversation will be found at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive861 or later. Thank you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:04, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Something else I just ran into
Poster by Albert Robida for a 1913 film made by the Italian film company Ambrosia. ;) We hope (talk) 18:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Very nice find! Have you uploaded it? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:54, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Shame it's cut off. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:05, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Not uploaded it as yet-am trying to work my way through the pre-1923 films and upload or change some non-PD licenses we have for them. Am also trying to grab as many pre-1923 posters as possible-even those with no articles (yet), but am trying to take care of the ones that have articles first. :) We hope (talk) 00:10, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll upload while I'm still at home. Big file though... 25 mb. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:12, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Have also found a big bunch of post-1923 posters that are large enough to read the fine print at the bottom and see that they didn't copyright the poster. :) I feel sorry for Sfan00 because I think I've done at least 50 (or more) license changes fron non free to PD in the last few weeks. ;) We hope (talk) 00:17, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Doctor Macro, by any chance? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

I found three very good poster databases which aren't like movieposterdb-they allow you to download without paying or being a member. IMP Awards, Moviecovers in French, and Movie Poster Scan Archive. You can also find some good ones through Pinterest. I do check Doctor Macro at times, but am at the other three a lot more often. The poster looks great!!! We hope (talk) 00:56, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Shame it's cut off... Wrong Side of the Art is useful, too, but they compress their files a lot. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:57, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Will check that one out. The French site has a smaller file of the poster.  Sometimes that's all that remains of the item--have seen some on eBay for big prices that look like they went to the front lines of one or two wars. :) We hope (talk) 01:09, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * ... *Shudder* ... I know what that's like. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:33, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks to you two, now I know in which film Charles Bukowski appeared as Wet T-Shirt Contest Water Boy Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 17:41, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

The Freedom of speech Barnstar

 * Thanks Cirt! Hopefully it can go through to FA as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:56, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, good luck, keep me posted. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:17, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Next DYK queue short one hook
Crisco, on the off-chance that you pop in again before Queue 1 is promoted at 12:00 UTC, the queue only has six hooks in it, after Fram removed one because it the nomination was accidentally originally promoted into two preps at the same time. There are tons of hooks available in the prep sets, so if you could move one of them to Queue 1 that would be great, assuming someone hasn't actually done something about the similar request I've posted at WT:DYK. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:38, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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POTD notification


Hi Crisco 1492, Thanks for your notification regarding the Picture of Day as at 12/11/14. By the way, would you be able to change the user's name as Donald Y Tong? I have two user names Donald Y Tong and Donald Tong for Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia respectively. I am the original author of this Burj Khalifa image and uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons initially, but due to the lisence issue this image only can be presented in English Wikipedia. If the user name can be redirect to Wikimedia Commons Donaldytong, the viewers can see all photos I contributed to Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia. Regards Donaldtong (talk) 11:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, done. BTW, if you want to nominate any of them at WP:FPC, feel free. There looks to be several which would have a good chance. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:40, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Great! Many thanks for your assistance. Donaldtong (talk) 05:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Fix it please
Hi,

I disrupted Template:POTD protected/2014-11-10. Please fix that bro..<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  04:55, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You know, there's a reason I usually handle this... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:27, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, I know that bro. But I would like to be an all rounder in Wikipedia. Thanks a lot...--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  13:57, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Inglehart–Welzel cultural map of the world
Crisco, can I ask you to take a look at this one and see whether the issue raised is such as to require further work or sourcing, or if the point Piotrus is making is germane in this situation? It's been sitting for four weeks at stalemate, and I'd like to get it moving again. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:24, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If you're feeling really ambitious, here's another that's been sitting almost as long: Template:Did you know nominations/Davis Run. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:27, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Counting entries in a list is unacceptable OR? Oh... God... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:31, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Fun, right? I'm glad you weighed in on that image, though. Thank you. If you're still in the mood to check old noms, there's a source issue (the hook was pulled by HJ Mitchell, who hasn't been back since it was replaced despite being pinged) that needs settling at Template:Did you know nominations/L.A. Takedown; I think we need a more rigorous check than it might get if we just put out the "again" icon. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:44, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Voyage of Life paintings
The last time I saw these paintings was in 2007 where they were hanging in the Munson-Williams-Proctor Arts Institute (where I attended art school in 1974-75), in Utica, NY, which is the owner. They're rather large, each painting approximately 6' x 5'. They're among my most favorite. Timeless and Beautiful!! :-) -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:45, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's the 1840 set, if I'm not mistaken (our article doesn't go into much detail). Yes, they are certainly works of beauty! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:11, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of September Morn
The article September Morn you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:September Morn for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Wilhelmina Will -- Wilhelmina Will (talk) 15:02, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Tootie Perry redux
Crisco, Dirtlawyer1 hasn't been able to find any non-list sources for those three players, and messed up the ping to tell us that (I tried fixing the pings, but it doesn't seem to have taken—your name was originally rendered without the space, and mine with a lowercase "M", which ping couldn't deal with. If you think that those three should be removed from the current hook, please say so; I can take a crack at a new cut-down ALT hook with the four articles that remain. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Naughty giggling BOT is delighted to see September Morn passing GA - well done! A fascinating article and it's been fun watching it develop. Onwards and upwards to FA now? Talk Page badge collector BOT (BOT still on naughty step) 14:50, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh those nasty wormies, still causing trouble? Yeah, SM is up for PR now, while Pah Wongso Pendekar Boediman finishes its run. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Hope to see it at FAC soon. Sterling work! ♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:16, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dr B. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:26, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Congrats the the GA!--Godot13 (talk) 23:59, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Godot! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK queues empty
In case you log on before 12:00 UTC, and no one else has done it, promoting a prep or two would be very helpful. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:09, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Question
Am I not allowed to use this expression? Though minor, I'm not too keen on someone editing my words in a fairly contested discussion... --Godot13 (talk) 07:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thought that looked odd. No, that's against the guidelines at WP:TPO. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:06, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Sunil Kumar Verma

 * Educationtemple, if there has been significant coverage of the subject which has arisen since the article was deleted last April, then by all means do give me some links. However, a press release and an article by the subject are not enough to show notability. They are both primary sources. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:23, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Sir Crisco_1492, this is an official statement by Science Minister Dr Jitendra Singh after a through discussion and fact finding investigations. Then only it appeared on the website of Press Information Bureau of Government of India.

As for the coverage on this matter on various independent media: Please see all links below on this discovery from 2002 onward: Dr Sunil Kumar Verma and Dr Lalji Singh of CCMB did this discovery together in the year 2001

2002: http://www.thehindu.com/2002/02/10/stories/2002021003090500.htm

2003: http://www.wti.org.in/oldsite/archives/2003/05/14/dna-tests-a-breakthrough-for-wildlife-forensics/

2003: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2003/04/30/stories/2003043001921900.htm

2003: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/ccmb-develops-wildlife-forensic-test/articleshow/44901017.cms

2003: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/checking-wildlife-crimes-with-dna-tests/articleshow/45002969.cms

2003: http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0612/p13s03-stss.html

2003: http://www.scidev.net/global/news/indian-genetic-test-helps-combat-wildlife-crimes.html

2006: http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20061203/spectrum/nature.htm

2008: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/csir-award-for-ccmb/article1344564.ece

2008: http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20080923/1060944.html

2008: http://dst.gov.in/whats_new/press-release08/csir-awards-2008.htm

2014: http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=108185 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationtemple (talk • contribs) 11:06, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * What you have there is enough for, perhaps, an article on the process, but not on the individual. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:09, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Sir Crisco_1492 Dr Sunil Kumar Verma never want to be famous as an individual as I know him since last 16 years or so. It is all about the 'Process' (as you have mentioned) i.e. the discovery that he made in 2001 with the name 'universal primer technology' that is worth notable on wiki. Would appreciate if you create an article on the same......and if possible edit the already existing pages on this such as DNA Barcoding with links to above material and possible the US patent 7141364 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationtemple (talk • contribs) 11:24, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That is out of my field (to say the least). I am not familiar with the subject, nor would I be able to write coherently on it. I recommend that you ask people at WikiProject Computational Biology or a related project. They'd be able to let you know if a) an article would be sustainable and b) who could write such an article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:38, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Sir Crisco_1492 just for curiosity - If Paul D N Hebert could be on Wiki for the discovery of DNA Barcoding that he did not do, or did after Sunil Kumar Verma as evident from the above facts (and you too agree that the process that he discovered is notable); why not Dr Sunil Kumar Verma be there? Sorry if I asked something wrong!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationtemple (talk • contribs) 11:43, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I never said SK Verma could not be on Wikipedia. I said that the sources you gave were more related to the process he used than the person. If you don't think Hebert meets our notability guidelines, you can feel free to nominate the article for deletion. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:48, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Sir Crisco_1492 - And the process he used was a significant discovery done by him 14 years ago that has changed the way world investigate wildlife crime and test the authenticity of food! All the sources I gave cite his name as inventor of this significant process. It may qualify the un deletion of his page on wiki which may just state that " Dr Sunil Kumar Verma is known for the discovery of Universal primer Technology for Wildlife Identification (2001) (references to the above) which is also known as 'DNA Barcoding' (with reference to the link to GOI India Press Information Bureau site) as named by Hebert et al in 2003 (with a link to Heberts page). If you permit, I can create this page simply with the above lines. --Educationtemple (talk) 13:08, 9 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationtemple (talk • contribs) 12:01, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

I would just wanted to point out that he is a recipient of Council of Scientific and Industrial Research(CSIR)Technology Award in Life Sciences (see page 11 here in this official newsletter) which is one of the top technology Award of CSIR, Societal Innovation Award of National Research Development Corporation (see this link) which is another National Honour for Science and Technology in India and BioAsia Innovation Award (this link), a highly prestigious Award of Asia Continent apart from other Honours such as Research Ambassadorship of DAAD (Germany) etc. I Guess notability on WP:ANYBIO is adequately met as a part of WikiProject India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.123.162.111 (talk) 18:11, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Awaiting your reply Dr @ Crisco_1492 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationtemple (talk • contribs) 09:54, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I've already given my recommendation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:38, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

I provided you other information after that on the awards etc of SK Verma. I am sure you have seen them. These are prestigious awards and only few Indians have got them. Together, I assume that the notability criteria WP:ANYBIO could be met and the profile of SK Verma could be recreated along with a specific page of Universal Primer Technology invented by him in 2001. If you agree to this, I can do both (i) recreate small biography of S K verma (ii) create a Dedicated page on Universal Primer Technology. Hope you can take a decision on these and give your recommendations specifically @ Crisco_1492. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationtemple (talk • contribs) 13:08, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I've already told you that it's not my field and I'm not comfortable writing about such an advanced topic without a background in it. I recommended you ask a project page. Fin. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:12, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Sir, Crisco_1492 please don't be angry. I am also trying to help and contribute for the wiki community like your kind self. Since you were the admin who deleted the page of S K Verma, hence this discussion. If you can not take decision about undeletion of S K Verma's biography, I shall take it to review with your permission. Once the biography is recreated, I shall be happy to develop a page on this advance technology. Is it OK? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationtemple (talk • contribs) 13:18, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Editing others' comments
Sorry, there was a quirk in my browser that automatically changed the text. In the future I'll try to double-check to make sure this doesn't happen. -- Ypnypn (talk) 14:11, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Deletion review for Sunil Kumar Verma
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Sunil Kumar Verma. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Educationtemple (talk) 16:38, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Beneful
Hey Crisco. It seems I made a pretty significant error in the Beneful article. The New York Times says their revenue was $141.7 million over four weeks ending September 29, 2012, whereas I made it sound like this number was annual revenue. Unfortunately I have not found any updated sources with an annual revenue number (Nestle doesn't break it down in their annual reports either) to correct it. Taking 141.7 in one month and multiplying by 12 months = closer to $1.7 billion in revenues.

I was wondering how you think we should handle it? We could just delete it, use WP:CACL to say "about" or "more than" a certain number or maybe something else I haven't thought of. I also have sources that call them a "billionaire brand" (ie more than $1 billion in annual revenue). CorporateM (Talk) 22:34, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd probably use WP:CALC to indicate "more than 1.5 billion" (though that's still somewhat debatable, as there can be significant changes over a year, though probably not for dog food). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:16, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AFPC_urgents&diff=633340413&oldid=633332837
Crisco, the new ones have a week to be voted on, and you pushed three that have less than a day to get votes out of the top spot by putting them there. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:43, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I seem to have misremembered what the hidden text said. I've always put them newest to oldest. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:48, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Dance floor

 * Might wanna let this archive... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

A request
Hey, you're an active, accomplished user who seems to have done a lot of reviews. I was wondering if you'd be able to give a review to Tony Hawk's Underground, an FAC that the delegates say they'd rather not pass without feedback from editors uninvolved with video game articles. It already has three supports and the other requisite reviews; I don't think it should be too bad. Just, I mean, if you have time, silahkan. Tezero (talk) 17:28, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Never did play Underground... I went straight from 4 to Underground 2... anyways, I'll see if I have time this week. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:38, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Heh, without having discussed you with him at all, I came here to ask exactly the same thing as Tezaro for pretty much the same reasons, Crisco, as I seem to remember you're not averse to game reviews but at the same time not enmeshed in the scene... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Why would I be? ;) They gave me God knows how many hours of fun when I was growing up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

FGM FAC
Hi Crisco, I was wondering whether you'd be willing to do the image review for Featured article candidates/Female genital mutilation/archive2 at some point. There is one fair-use image, File:Hulda Stumpf.jpg, but has tracked down one of Stumpf in a magazine that's old enough to be PD. We just have to find someone who will scan it for us. I don't know whether it will be done in time for the FAC, but at least we know it's on the way. SlimVirgin (talk) 16:35, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do today. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for doing that so thoroughly and quickly, Crisco. Much appreciated. SlimVirgin (talk) 16:06, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Always glad to help! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Left field
Hmmm, I didnt even know about Kedu dialect, cannot remember ever seeing the old dutch linguists play with it either, inneresting - any thoughts? satusuro 23:32, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The hell? And the text... "that have a conversation with Kedu people a pleasureness."...? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:46, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Film posters
Hi, the following need the watermark removed:

♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:09, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Dobre situovaný pán.jpg
 * File:Vzdusne torpedo 48.jpg
 * File:Poslícek_lásky.jpg
 * File:Na Svatém Kopecku.jpg
 * You could do it yourself with GIMP, using some form of clone tool. I use a layer copying and pasting technique, but it wouldn't work on these. Interesting way of introducing spam into an article! Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh gosh, do you have any more resolution (hosted elsewhere)? There's barely any room there for mistakes (and with this level of detail, there will be mistakes). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The images appear to be derived from a collection of 15,000 Czech posters from 1930 onwards. Interesting site- they've also got 2,092 Polish posters online. Maybe Dr Blofeld can contact them for larger scans. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 00:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah both Czech and Polish cinema is badly undeveloped on here. Sadly that's all I could find with the film posters. I'm sure at some point larger ones will become available. If it's a problem perhaps I'll avoid uploading anymore until a larger one is available.♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:30, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Condong
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Maggie Roswell
Nothing against Ms. Roswell, but I gotta wonder how this rather bland publicity pic of an entertainer got to be an FP. Somehow I missed that. Sca (talk) 14:12, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, you can read the nomination, of course. It was a while back, before you became very active (and before I was that active, actually). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:51, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

List of accolades received by The Avengers (2012 film)
Hello, you promoted this list a week ago. I was wondering if there was a way to manually process the close or jump start the bot. Thank you.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:10, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi TriiipleThreat, there is a way to manually close it. It's outlined here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:52, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Double Nomination in Quality Images
Aloha Crisco 1492! I nomiated one of my pictures twice in the Quality_images_candidates. I know it shouldn't be nominated twice, it was a mistake. That being said the I thought about deleting the declined one right off the page so the other would have a chance to get voted in, however I am not sure if it is considered bad etiquette to do so. Your thoughts? Mahalo! Photocyclone (talk) 23:42, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Photocyclone, sadly I'm not very familiar with QIC's editing etiquette. Have you tried Poco a poco or someone else? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I will ask him. Mahalo!Photocyclone (talk) 23:56, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Nominated
Archive me! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:08, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Lady Agnew
Yet another quick question - the article for Lady Agnew of Lochnaw (painting) was moved yesterday - I appreciate there isn't an article for Lady Agnew BUT this is actually about the painting so I think it was named correctly. What do you think? SagaciousPhil - Chat 06:02, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I think, technically, this is correct per our MOS, at least until we get an article on LoA. See WP:PRECISION. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:29, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! I suppose I could knock out a stub as there are six refs used for the 'Background section', which is only about her, but a stub wouldn't say much more than is already there, so maybe another time if I can find anything other details.  SagaciousPhil  - Chat 08:41, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds like fun! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:06, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I just checked my copy of the Ormond book- apparently the background to the commissioning of Sargent is obscure, and she was in bad health most of the time (recovering from flu at the time of the portrait), so she's probably not notable enough for a separate article. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 09:52, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Xanty. I just love that painting and I wish we could get a copy that would be suitable as an FP, which is why I started the article ... SagaciousPhil  - Chat 10:27, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

If you upload the movie: subtitles
If the movie is okay to upload it may be good to arrange to have English subtitles added to it. It can help with ESL audiences, and it also means that it can be translated WhisperToMe (talk) 07:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Which movie are you looking at? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You want to upload His Girl Friday WhisperToMe (talk) 12:21, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sadly, a no go. Copyright concerns, even though the film is PD. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:44, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Opinion...
I haven't nominated a photo in a while. Do you see glaring issues with this potential FPC?--Godot13 (talk) 23:13, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it should be fine, though you may have some heat for not giving room to either side of the cathedral. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:55, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's specifically what I was worried about... It was the widest angle lens I had and another step backward puts me falling down stairs...--Godot13 (talk) 05:45, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ouch.... yeah, that's where stitching comes in handy. Only way to know for sure is to give it a shot. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:48, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Dactylorhiza

 * BTW there are four older Plants/Flowers FPs which were not selected as POTDs yet: File:Papaver April 2010-8a.jpg, File:Papaver April 2010-13 crop.jpg, File:Papaver April 2010-9.jpg & File:Correa Alba RTBG.jpg. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:42, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * So one set (a poppy, so let's leave it for January) and a lone image. Excellent. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:54, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

 * Thanks Haffy! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:54, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost/2014-11-12/Featured content
Is there any chance you could help out a bit? It's our biggest week in a long time, and I'm overwhelmed and apparently alone. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:38, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You seem to have gotten much of the way through it, but yes, I'll try and help out. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Arbcom
Hi, would you please consider suddenly deciding to run for arbcom, and then hurriedly submitting a candidacy? Candidacies go to Arbitration Committee Elections December 2014/Candidates within the next 48 hours or so. But you can refine it after that.

I ask this because (1) you would almost certainly be elected, (2) you would do a good job if elected, (3) you are capable of dealing with the rather onerous position, (4) you might help to broaden viewpoints at the "top" of the Wikipedia hierarchy while in the role, since you have a much more global outlook than the average candidate.

I understand if you say no. I think it's worth a try! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:15, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. Sadly, I'm not too sure I could handle it, as my on-wiki time has been limited as of late, and some of those cases get to be extremely involved (which would mean almost every other form of contribution might have to stop). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:38, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Pah Wongso Pendekar Boediman - sources review
I tried to do as you asked, but unfortunately there is a gremlin in my system at the moment, which means that my laptop crashes every time I try to make an internal link. This is making review work (and much else) difficult if not impossible at the moment. I don't know how long this will last, but I think you'd be advised to find another reviewer for his task. So sorry. Brianboulton (talk) 21:23, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh my, hope you're able to get rid of the little gremlin soon. Thanks anyways. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:39, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Self portrait of Paulus Moreelse with additional artwork.jpg
I wouldn't mind so much, except there's A - no valid reason for deletion - a small amount of humourous content is, after all, allowed. B. I don't know where my copy is.

Hell, it was actually in use on the page about not needing pictures of your dick as one of the jokes. But, no, humour has no place, and we will ignore all rules to destroy it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Screw it, if I find it, I'm using it in the Signpost. I'll start a contest, but remind people that everything used has to be free-licensed.  Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * They are getting rather unhumorous. Commons:Deletion requests/File:A push-up bra for hamburgers.jpg and all that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews
Hello. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular. The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered. If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.) If you do find a copyright violation, please do not decline the draft on that basis. Copyright violations need to be dealt with immediately as they may harm those whose content is being used and expose Wikipedia to potential legal liability. If the draft is substantially a copyvio, and there's no non-infringing version to revert to, please mark the page for speedy deletion right away using. If there is an assertion of permission, please replace the draft article's content with. Some of the more obvious indicia of a copyvio are use of the first person ("we/our/us..."), phrases like "this site", or apparent artifacts of content written for somewhere else ("top", "go to top", "next page", "click here", use of smartquotes, etc.); inappropriate tone of voice, such as an overly informal tone or a very slanted marketing voice with weasel words; including intellectual property symbols (™,®); and blocks of text being added all at once in a finished form with no misspellings or other errors. I hope this message finds you well and thanks again you for your efforts in this area. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC). Sent via--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Would like your input
Hi Crisco! If you can spare the time and are interested, I would like to invite you to review and comment on the Spokane, Washington FAC. You are a seasoned editor and reviewer and your input and critical eye would be very appreciated. The FAC hasnt received any new input in a week since one of the other reviewers is busy or sidetracked at the moment so I wanted to see if I could take this time to get other people to comment on it. Lately Ive been occupying myself on minor issues since I cant think of anything else that can be done to improve it. The nomination has 2 supports at the moment.

So, if you have the time, we would love to have you :) Thank you for all you do around here.G755648 (talk) 04:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's a hefty review. I'll see what I can do tonight. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:31, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Any help is appreciated. Thanks a bunch Crisco!G755648 (talk) 04:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Teardrops on my camera

 * Fear... released — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:18, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I would have skipped a beat (or a whole sequence of them)...--Godot13 (talk) 07:16, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad that's the only thing that was lost. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I did skip a beat... a whole sequence. Broke down for a bit, read xkcd's "What if?" from #20 to #1xx (whatever the most recent was)... very glad it was just the filter. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:07, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

List of people on United States banknotes
My first FL on the main page yesterday... 11,930 hits. I'm happy (and a strong showing for banknotes)...--Godot13 (talk) 07:14, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's really good! (For TFLs in general, even). Don't let the nay-sayers keep you down... this shows how important the work you've done is. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:06, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. All the ongoing crap about scoring remains aggravating. The Confederate nomination is the first in over three weeks (given the pace of the year, that's like an eternity)...--Godot13 (talk) 08:29, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It's all pretty much people who haven't even bothered to look at how things are used. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:31, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sigh... another reason for me to not participate. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:34, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright question
A photo clipped from an 1898 issue of Harper's Weekly by a photographer who, at the time, was a Captain and mining engineer in the Cuban army (and may have been a co-creator of the Daiquiri). What do I need to show/establish for this to be okay (or is it good as is)?--Godot13 (talk) 08:24, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * PD-1923 for the US copyright (and thus enough for local upload). If first published in HW, should be enough for Commons too. When did this captain die? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's the problem, I can't ascertain that. Francisco D. Pagliuchi, an Italian, joined the Cuban Army (4 years), was a mining engineer, special correspondent for HW, and then lived and worked in the US. A few newspaper hits (F.D. Pagliuchi), last one in 1911, but nothing about his death...--Godot13 (talk) 08:33, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I think, barring any proof otherwise, you can say that HW was the first publisher... and it's American, so only American copyright law would apply. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * So okay for commons or only local? DOB 6 Nov 1869 per his passport application (Ancestry), no definitive record of death.--Godot13 (talk) 08:54, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Commons, PD-1923. His Italian citizenship means jack if the image was first published in the US. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Excellent...-Godot13 (talk) 09:04, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Slap a PD-Cuba on it if you want to be doubly safe. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:50, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

FGM
Hi Crisco, just a note to thank you again for the quick and thorough image review at FGM. It got promoted today, and I am breathing a sigh of relief. I really appreciate your help at the FAC. All the best, SlimVirgin (talk) 00:13, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * A pleasure. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:14, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

User:Educationtemple/Sunil Kumar Verma
Hello sir Crisco 1492. I have worked on this article after you had userfied it. Could you please have a look? Please suggest me about the next step? Please see the article here User:Educationtemple/Sunil Kumar Verma Educationtemple (talk) 20:19, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I do believe I've already told you I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough in this field to do anything more. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:52, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

@ Crisco 1492 Yes, I remember that. But I am just asking you to please tell me about the next obvious step after userfy article has been re-written with evidences by an editor. How will it move out of the user space like a normal article. What are the steps to follow now. where it will be put up for further appeal so that it become a normal artilcle again. Educationtemple (talk) 01:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Finding someone to review would be the next step. I already suggested places to look, too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:06, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Heh...
Was putting an image into FPC urgents. Whoops, left off "File:". Normal person: I'll just add that in. Me: Actually, it's a really easy fix to make it accept either input, and that's reasonably useful functionality... *edits the template* Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:05, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "Easy"????? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:54, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Change to File: -   strips off any namespace, so File:foo.jpg  becomes foo.jpg, and foo.jpg stays foo.jpg. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:53, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK about 18 hours overdue
Crisco, in case you're around—I've only stopped in for a few minutes myself, as I have a great deal of regular work to do—there are a bunch of preps ready, no queues filled, and it's been almost 30 hours since a queue was promoted to the main page. Hoping you can take care of it if someone doesn't beat you to it. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:53, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:07, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

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<gallery mode=packed heights=133px caption="."> File:Louis John Steele - Portrait of a young Maori woman with moko - Google Art Project.jpg File:Richard Ansdell - Hawking (1863).jpg File:Gottfried Lindauer - Tamati Waka Nene - Google Art Project.jpg File:Marchienne-au-Pont JPG00b.jpg|Marchienne-au-Pont (Belgium), the chapel-boat commonly called the boatmen church File:St-Sixte 1x.JPG|Chapelle Saint-Sixte d'Eygalières, Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence, France File:Chapelle Sainte Sixte (Bouches-du-Rhône).JPG File:Thanksgiving chapel interior .jpg File:Pare Watene by Gottfried Lindauer 1878.jpg

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 * Very beautiful. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:59, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You like them? one+ Hafspajen (talk) 21:50, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I do. Shame the ones I looked at were not in any articles. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:56, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Like? Hafspajen (talk) 11:12, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The Steele and Lindauer portraits, and the Thanksgiving Chapel. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, won't be difficult place those. Hafspajen (talk) 15:41, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Louis John Steele is practically nothing at all of an article. Hafspajen (talk) 22:31, 19 November 2014 (UTC) Louis John Steele is not that bad now, thanks Xanthy. Hafspajen (talk) 21:02, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, look elsewhere. Something related to Tā moko? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, you got that already. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed, very good work. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:27, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Did you know
Hi, as an uninvolved administrator, would you be able to evaluate consensus and take the appropriate action? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:19, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 09:59, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

What now.
Which one is right? Hafspajen (talk) 23:36, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The Google one is almost certainly more correct, as it has detail in the background. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:16, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Right is right. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  10:13, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * There we go. Rijksmuseum and Google are similar enough. They're certainly righter. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:19, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah but the Google version is cropped too tightly. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:21, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Uploading a new version of the Rijksmuseum scan. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I will soon cry. Hafspajen (talk) 17:39, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Why? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:53, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Because I have now probably have to go and visit this too, and it cost a lot. By the way, can't you fly through Amsterdam and have a day of there to see wich one is the nearest original? Hafspajen (talk) 14:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Ticket's been booked since August. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, well. Hafspajen (talk) 14:07, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

File:Fornsalen_-_Invasion_1361_-_Schädel_mit_Kettenhaube_1.jpg
I'm guessing this is not quite good enough for FP? (Hafspajen: Scary skull, don't click.) Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:27, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sadly, no. Cluttered composition, a bit too bright... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Closed discussion
We had a discussion to enhance The Fourteen Infallibles up to the featured level. Unfortunately you closed the discussion while editors were still dealing with the suggestions and mentioned problems.I think this discussion needs to be reopened. Mhhossein (talk) 11:46, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Consensus was that it was not up to FL quality. I recommend that you have a native speaker of English help you with a peer review before nominating again. Furthermore, it was already at the end of its run. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:55, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Where did you reach the Consensus? The peer review request had no result! No one participated the discussion. After the nomination, it took almost two month for the first one to participate the nomination discussion! So, it would be better if we let the discussion continue. Next nominations will take longer times. Mhhossein (talk) 16:16, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You should get a better understanding of the featured lists process. Firstly, the peer review has no bearing on the FLC candidacy. Second, most nominations are considered stale by the time they reach two months of age. Even if there had been no reviews, the nomination would have been archived. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:58, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I know that the FLC candidacy is not related to the peer review, I just wanted to tell you that I was concerned with asking others to check the article before the nomination. How about ongoing discussions, why are they archived? Mhhossein (talk) 18:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If they reach a certain age, and there has been no or little discussion, and there are one or more oppose !votes still standing, they are archived to give other lists a chance for review. This list was open for two months minus one week, had an outstanding oppose, and based on my overview of the list it could not be brought up to snuff within the remaining time. Hence the nomination was archived. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:53, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cendrawasih (dance)
The DYK project (nominate) 22:44, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic photos!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:08, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dr. B.! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:54, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

FP
Hi bro,

I am to nominate File:Frederick Sleigh Roberts, 1st Earl Roberts by John Singer Sargent.jpg for FP (came across via Robertsganj and then to your talk page). Will you be my co-nominator?? Thanks.. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  13:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:51, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * A co-nomination... Face-surprise.svg AFAIR there was only one this year. Face-grin_expert.svg Armbrust The Homunculus 13:57, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Herald, it's nominated. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:13, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Crisco. Armbrust, are you sure that we have few co-noms??--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  14:53, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I could find only 1 in the previous 12 months: Featured picture candidates/Lagoon Nebula 3...Try try but don't cry. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:57, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I think we should find a Van Gogh portrait and 5 co-nominators...? Do we have any Van Gogh portaits as an FP at all? Hafspajen (talk) 20:13, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Portraits of van Gogh? Probably not. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:20, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Me with arionEstar had the co-nom then. Hafpajen, should you look into commons:Category:Vincent van Gogh, specially his selfies..--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  10:09, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't you think is weird we don't have any FP-ed? Hafspajen (talk) 17:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Not really, since those are never stable in his article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:20, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeh, stability matters. It is stability which took away mine Featured picture candidates/Vincent van Gogh Selfie to a suspended-a-while nomination..--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  11:41, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well ... I think we just had problems as soon as we get to any of the van Goghs - can't IMAGINE why? Hafspajen (talk) 14:06, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, we have only ten of them (2 out of 6 or 7 from my noms)..<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  14:25, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Bulb Fields or La Mousmé may be good to nominate, but I'm waiting for some more space between paintings. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:28, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * (Don't want to make another section Crisco, so...) Can File:Orion Head to Toe.jpg have POTD title in near future.?? I will then have to ping Rogelio.. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  13:02, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:18, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

For you

 * Thanks, Haffy! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If you find a dog, make it better. We have dog photos about the same quality that flood our categories... . Hafspajen (talk) 15:40, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * My Mom has a pet... something. Don't remember the breed. I think its a purebred. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:20, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Take quality pictures of him-her. Hafspajen (talk) 17:44, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Cocker Spaniel. I'll see if she's cooperative. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

send her to school. Here is a good one. Hafspajen (talk) 21:49, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Editing a featured picture
Hi Crisco, I'd like some advice please. I've taken another look at Percival Lowell observing Venus. I never really was happy about the area around the eyepiece, so I've taken another crack at it. The thing is, I'm not sure what the etiquette is with regards to uploading over a Featured Picture. Should I be bold?  nagual  design   23:46, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, minor changes are okay. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:51, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅. Let me know what you think. Cheers.  nagual  design   23:58, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

FYI
Latest addition... Will work on some text.--Godot13 (talk) 08:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright. I'll try and get some sources tomorrow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:04, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Ophiucus Set
Hey Crisco,

Can they have any possibilty of being a set? They are used in Ophiucus (edited by me) and are of high standard and quality. I already had many set-noms go down (you know it) and so don't want this too have the same fate. If succeeded, this is going to be our second Astro FP set (Category:Rings of Saturn (featured picture set) being the other but could be delisted)... <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  14:41, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Has a somewhat reasonable chance. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:26, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * So shall I proceed..--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  15:31, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Worth a try. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:43, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeh, in a day or two. I have already backlogged the FPC..<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  15:53, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK queues empty again
Crisco, just a note that the DYK queues are empty again, and the next promotion to the main page is a little over five hours from now. If you could check when you see this, and perhaps promote one or two of the four preps currently filled, that would be a great help. Many thanks, and thanks also for closing that RfC on QPQs the other day. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Crisco. Much appreciated. I was wondering whether I could ask you to take a look at the following noms:
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Inglehart–Welzel cultural map of the world: you've posted here on potential image copyright issues; have I understood what the question is on this one? Piotrus seems quite sanguine here, but I don't see how DYK can be.
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Jill Stuart: Panyd seems to be making cogent POV arguments in the review here, but I'd like someone with more experience in this area to take a look. If correct, the article will require a great deal of work to be brought to DYK standards, and perhaps that POV template should be reinstated. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:02, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe tomorrow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:04, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Much appreciated whenever you can get to it (and I see you've already done Jill Stuart). When you next appear, can I ask you to check the DYK queues? We're once again on empty, with under an hour until the next main-page promotion (at 23:00 UTC), and that's after you usually look in at the beginning of your day. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:13, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Any chance of a DYK prep promotion? We're over 90 minutes late! (I just posted a reminder at WT:DYK, but no guarantee anyone will see it.) BlueMoonset (talk) 00:35, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Got it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:48, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * You're amazing. Thank you so much! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:27, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Notifications for SVG FP candidates?
Hey, Crisco! I was wondering... Is there something I can set up somewhere to automatically notify me whenever an SVG file is put up for FP candidacy on the English Wikipedia? I don't want any to slip past me, but I don't always remember to check. KDS 4444 Talk  20:55, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not aware of any. Adam Cuerden is more technically minded; maybe he knows? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:47, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it'd either need to be something hard encoded into the FPC nomination protocol so as to ping you, or a bot. Neither is particularly simple. The simplest way might be to filter a transclusion of the FPC page onto your talk page using a variable to change functionality, and some #if statements, though en-wiki doesn't have the text manipulation extentions installed, so I need to check some things. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:35, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Canada birds
Hafspajen (talk) 04:24, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sadly, it's awful dark. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:09, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorrow. Hafspajen (talk) 05:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

New userbox for you Hafspajen (talk) 15:55, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Have a look please
Hi Cris, Greetings.... Finally I did it. I got a better photograph of a male Bharathanatyam performer. Have a look please, I would love to nominate it to FP. Expecting your suggestions regarding the same. Hope in case of correction, you will help me out.



Regards

Bellus Delphina    talk   19:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Uploaded. The noise looks much better. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:46, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you Crisco, waiting for to nominate  Bellus Delphina     talk   02:28, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Waiting for whom? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:30, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost/2014-12-03/Featured content
I would really appreciate if you would do the Balinese dance descriptions in this: I have a lot to do, and have to have it all done by Thursday morning. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:11, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I had a feeling you'd go for those images in the lead. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:25, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * K, done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:15, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:41, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

El Greco Adorations
Could you get http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/436570?rpp=30&pg=1&ft=Nativity&pos=5 and http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/436571?rpp=30&pg=1&ft=el+greco&pos=7 and http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/652416?rpp=30&pg=1&ft=el+greco&pos=16 ?

The first already has a page set up for it at File:El_Greco_(Domenikos_Theotokopoulos)_-_The_Adoration_of_the_Shepherds_(ca._1605–10)_-_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art.jpg, the other two haven't been uploaded yet. Thanks! =)

Hafspajen: I got to El Greco first, so there. =P Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:33, 24 November 2014 (UTC) Sure Adam, he is yours. But don't snatch  Joachim Wtewael!! Hafspajen (talk) 15:56, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, the laptop with which I get the full res versions is busy crunching scans, so that might have to wait until tomorrow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:36, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, El Greco article is rather a crappy presentation of his work, I say. And I really dislike those long captions too, bad qualty scans too. How can this be a Featured article... don't know. Ah, an FA 2007. No gallery of course, old fashioned times.  Hafspajen (talk) 15:58, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Adam, try this - Laocoön (El Greco). Hafspajen (talk) 16:15, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * First, will sort Christmas ou, then will sort out the abysmally bad naked old man quotient of the FPs. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:59, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * OH, he is just stressed a bit - by the way I want really something better on THIS: File:El Greco Virgin with Saints Agnes and Martina.jpg - a great absolute classic (is at the National Gallery! )  Hafspajen (talk) 17:06, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Adam Cuerden, here you go. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:05, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Panyembrama
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:07, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

TFA coordinator
Dear Chris - well, I always thought you were a glutton for punishment and now there's further proof, with the news that you've agreed to be put forward here as part of a new TFA team. You, Brian and Dank will be a great combination, I'm sure. Good luck. BencherliteTalk 12:36, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Bencherlite! Though I've always thought of myself as a plain glutton. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:28, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Church of St. John
Wikipedia Signpost/2014-12-03/Featured content Have a read of the "Church of St. John at Kaneo". Is that funny or am I just desperate to get this into a state that I can trust others to finish it? =)
 * Possibly funny? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:57, 25 November 2014 (UTC)


 * And possibly a good suggestion? ;) Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:03, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I chuckled. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:30, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Image license
I just wanted to make sure I did these correctly (reasoning that New Caledonia is a French territory)--Godot13 (talk) 03:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Why are you using two different "Self" templates? As for NC, I believe that's correct. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:39, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I would like to know why I'm using two different self templates... where?--Godot13 (talk) 03:50, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I may know that... If I upload non-Smithsonian images then I don't mention the Smithsonian in the self template...--Godot13 (talk) 03:52, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "Godot13 / Smithsonian Institution, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publishes it under the following license: (PD-EU)" and "I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license: (CC-BY-SA 3.0)". Conflicting licenses. If one is for the scan, it should be noted (example) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:04, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't seem to find a facepalm image BIG ENOUGH to accurately sum up how I feel right now... If necessary, is there an automated way to remove the second license whenever two are present? (I need to randomly review a hundred or two Smithsonian images just to be certain the sequence is always the same)...--Godot13 (talk) 04:28, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I found the right image...--Godot13 (talk) 04:39, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't catch it earlier. (Karaoke gap... oh my). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:11, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

International Airport GAC
I noticed your surprise that this article passed GAC. The review was actually performed by a user that has recently joined the wikiproject that collaborated to improve the article. The review was double checked as part of the GA Cup, however I do still have some reservations about the impartiality of the review. I think your concerns are well founded, and that perhaps it would be best to request a Good article reassessment, to make sure it meets the GA criteria. -- Nick Penguin ( contribs ) 07:44, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

PD or CC
Hi, On my reviews, I don't mean to mix up licenses; I'm just looking for a quick way to say, "Image is free." Should I just write that? "Image is free-license"? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 11:07, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Image is freely licensed, or whatever. I may be a bit overly sensitive to that point, but I've had issues with companies like the ABC reusing my photographs as if they were public domain (i.e. not providing attribution) before. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:56, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 13:11, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:POTD/2014-12-23
A new account's first edit was to create this page. As it doesn't appear to be a Featured picture I have deleted it under CSD:G2 as a test page. If I'm wrong please feel free to reinstate. Nthep (talk) 13:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Good call, Nthep. That image is both not featured and (in its current version) would never be featured. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:34, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Well
Well, not much I can do, if he doesn't respond on the question about the source considering. He was editing on commons since I posted on his page - and must have seen my question - and yet he never responded - and  he has an user-box where it is stated  he can speak English. And I guess since the picture doesn't have a proper source it might be nominated for deletion to, maybe he will react than. Hafspajen (talk) 10:43, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ouch. I do hope you track down the source. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Works of John Betjeman promotion
Hi. Hope you're well. Could you add your signature to the promotion so it can be closed? Featured list candidates/Works of John Betjeman/archive1 Thanks. Cowlibob (talk) 14:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:32, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Just one thing
Wikistalking is not OK. Making two reviews on articles created by a user that you have an obvious issue with within a time span of 10 minutes at the moment is just very weird. I do agree with you on the reviews issues at hand but lets not take it to the level of Wikistalking. I am not shy of telling you what I think and I will take the issue futher if it should escalate. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:19, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Read WP:Wikistalking before you accuse me of doing so. This is an administrative matter, for which the following of edits is entirely appropriate, particularly as all are related to the same issue ("Correct use of an editor's history includes ... correcting related problems on multiple articles [or, in this case, pages]. In fact, such practices are recommended"). Your edits to DYK are consistently not up to standard, and thus a drain on community resources and a cause of both reviewer fatigue and backlog. I have requested that another editor attempt to mentor you, so that you can edit in a more constructive manner, and thus contribute in a way which is both enjoyable to you and not detrimental to the encyclopedia. If you wish to bring up the matter at an administrative board, I do recommend you read WP:BOOMERANG beforehand. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:28, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I think you are absolutely ridiculous. And in fact you are more likely the one in need of mentoring concerning Reviews if your review of the Pettakare cave is anything to go after. That is my final comment. No more of this behaviour thanks. And I will certainly stop as well. This is a two way street.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:36, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Please ask a competent editor (Bluemoonset, Fram and EEng come to mind) to see if the review was against "GA criteria" or not (again, this is the version you wanted to run on the MP). If you think I need mentorship more than you do, then you do not understand DYK. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:44, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not the most experienced DYKer but I know enough to be dangerous, and having worked with Crisco on getting Denmark Street and Dartford Crossing to good article status, (and you'll note both of those GA reviews were about a week apart, yet I never claimed Crisco was stalking me!) I'm confident enough to say he knows his stuff. At the end of the day, if you put articles up through the formal review procedures (which DYK is), you must expect constructive criticism, take it in good stride and see how said criticism does (or, sometimes does not, but that comes with experience) help improve the article - which is, after all, what we're all here for. Incidentally, I checked Daniel Paris - now, there's nothing wrong with writing about popular culture, but you have to respect the biographies of living people guideline, which is taken very seriously, and I would recommend the sentence "He also has been the victim of cyberbullying..." is removed, as it is insufficiently sourced in my view. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:58, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I do not have a problem with constructive criticism. That being "constructive criticism". I am not saying Crisco should not review. Basically I can not help that Crisco is feeling Butthurt about this situation. I have 40+ articles experience with DYKs and just right now I have articles with 40,000+ views on DYKSTATS. Crisco is being rude, am I better probably not. I will not apologize especially now that Crisco has taken it a step further with his latest antics at the DYK talk page. I am no wallflower when it comes to blatant attempts of discrediting me. If you give me obvious crap I will return the favour. Simple as that.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:03, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I certainly wouldn't claim you're not a productive editor and you have made positive contributions to this place, that can be easily seen from your contributions. Personally, I like people to give me a different angle on things, as the more points that can be brought up, the more likely the article is going to appear better to the average reader. I am sympathetic to the complaint that clearing an article through DYK has got harder particularly over the past year, and I realise it can seem frustrating to have the experience you have and suddenly hit a brick wall. However, I am convinced that nobody has it in for you and are simply concerned about maintaining an excellent standard of quality on the main page. Furthermore, since Google Books is getting better year on year, and the WMF have arranged free subscriptions to online source services (I've signed up to JSTOR and BNA and they're brilliant), there's no real excuse for not going with a higher quality of source than a typical website which runs all the risk of becoming a dead link and unverifiable in a year's time. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:14, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * But even you must admit that there are a difference between having opinions and suggestions about someone elses DYKs, not like Crisco is doing trying to point finger at me as an unproductve and not professional DYK creator. That is a blatant lie basically. I like that you responded with actual suggestions instead of attacks as both me and Crisco has been guilty of today. I have for the record never claimed to be a brilliant editor overall, but I am a great DYK contributor and my track record from 2010 until present time shows that my articles overall have been liked and enjoyed at the DYK.  Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:56, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Why do you keep referring to your track record? Does it mean you know better than someone with 626 DYKs since 2011, well over that in reviews, and whose top two hooks (four articles) had more than 50k hits. It's good to feel proud of your accomplishments, but recall that others may be just as accomplished (or even more so) than you.
 * I may have been a little harsher (I wouldn't even say "rude") than you like, but that does not change the fact that the article you nominated was woefully unprepared. I recommend listening to Ritchie here; if people find that you are responsive and willing to listen to feedback (no matter how it's phrased), they are likely to review your noms more quickly than if you withdraw everything immediately and accuse others of being "butthurt" and stalking you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:57, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

 * Thanks, Haffy! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:07, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Monkey photo
I added 2 cat's that can apply to the pic. I don't know if we can nominate for 2 at once but those were the most logical. talk→  WPPilot   02:36, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

AfD
Crisco, it occurred to me that you might want to know about Articles for deletion/Breakin' Dishes (2nd nomination), since you were the reviewer of its GAN back in 2011, and the fact that it is a GA is a factor in the discussions. Apologies for not letting you know sooner. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:14, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Saw the big list nom a while back, so... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:39, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Bonus unnominable frog

 * Love it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:48, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

id:Pah Wongso Pendekar Boediman
Crisco, mohon bantu donk untuk mengembangkan artikel id:Pah Wongso Pendekar Boediman agar serupa dengan yang ada di en.wiki --What a joke (talk) 01:55, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Jill Stuart redux
Crisco, I was wondering whether you could revisit this and see whether the POV issues have been dealt with to your satisfaction. I know that some of the text that Panyd objected to still exists, but the phrasing has been revised here and there. I rather doubt "leading ladies" is appropriate, for example, but if that's an isolated incident it can be fixed. Thanks for checking. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:24, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

User_talk:Brianboulton
Ping. - Dank (push to talk) 15:59, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

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I want this woman


Hafspajen (talk) 01:53, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Finally, a simple request! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:56, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * What, isn't she adorable? Hafspajen (talk) 02:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely, yes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:17, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Hey, that was fast..!!! Hafspajen (talk) 02:25, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


 * looks GOOD!!! Hafspajen (talk) 02:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the National Gallery of Art has its full resolution files online, and free. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:30, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

oH, MY .... now I have to write an article, of course. Forgot about that part. Hafspajen (talk) 02:28, 28 November 2014 (UTC) Venus Console Love... arr. Hafspajen (talk) 02:33, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, Venus Consoling Love — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:36, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * .You mean wrong title... heheeey that's what I say... - Hafspajen (talk) 02:50, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, I give it up for the moment. But it is a start. Leave it to you for now, it has refs-. For now. Co-nominate, eh, what do you say .. ? Hafspajen (talk) 02:59, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do today. Book launch and (if it doesn't rain) ketoprak performance this evening, and in about an hour and a half I have to teach. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:07, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, I know what THAT means ... Hafspajen (talk) 03:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully, so long as the lighting is up to par. My 60D doesn't handle noise as well as Diliff's Canon EOS 5D Mark III; for File:Gunawan Maryanto reading his poetry, PKKH UGM, 2014-11-25.jpg, for instance, he could probably have gotten the same degree of sharpness with much less downsampling, or even without any (according to this, his camera gets the same amount of noise at ISO 1600 that I do at ISO 200... am really considering buying a Mark III for low light photography, or Mark IV if that's come out before I save the money... being able to go to ISO 3200 without that much noise would allow much better concert and dance shots). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:26, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Better than buying cars all the time. Prose size (text only): 1340 characters (241 words) "readable prose size". Hafspajen (talk) 03:45, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Not too much cheaper, though — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:54, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Really? I heard folks talk about equipment's and stuff - but never realized that part. Hafspajen (talk) 04:03, 28 November 2014 (UTC).
 * Well, the 60D is almost $1000, and the 60D is almost twice that. The 5D mkIII is closer to $4000 than $3000... (actually, for my purposes the 6D may actually be better) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:18, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, woew. Hafspajen (talk) 04:36, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and that's before one gets to the lenses (a good lens for birding could easily cost more than the camera itself). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


 * whistle .... Hafspajen (talk) 05:06, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Yep, photography is a rewarding but not a cheap hobby, that's for sure... Where the rabbit hole goes, even I don't know. :-) Although Crisco, I think you're right that the 6D is probably better for your purposes if money is tight. Better to spend the difference on a good prime lens. The main differences are shooting speed and autofocus, neither of which are that important really. I'd have considered the 6D too if it were around at the time I bought my 5D Mk iii. Or, if you don't need the 6D's features, you could actually get a second hand 5D Mk ii which is almost as good as the Mk iii. &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  08:56, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, the geographic coordinates and whatnot would be useful. I'd definitely go with the 6D rather than a second-hand Mk II. As for the lens... well, 1.5k (the 5D mkIII is going for Rp. 35,000,000 right now) is a fair bit of wiggle room, though I'd probably end up getting a ring flash, the adapter, and a 50mm speed lens rather than just one lens. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:21, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Sadly, the place was too crowded for me to feel comfortable there with the equipment. No ketoprak yet. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:22, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I noticed the header 'I want this woman' and, as I'm just soooo modest, immediately thought "Oh, that must be me", so trotted all the way over here ... ... only to find you are all discussing camera lenses! Dejectedly trudges all the way back out again ... SagaciousPhil - Chat 12:29, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, we started with paintings... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:05, 28 November 2014 (UTC)Guido Reni (Italian - Joseph and Potiphar's Wife - Google Art Project.jpg
 * And a very fine painting it is too ... with a very nice little new article to go with it. SagaciousPhil  - Chat 15:49, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry Phil, you are almost as charming like her, only on the brunette side... Hafspajen (talk) 15:55, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * And me? I'm the farmer in Men in Black — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:04, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Lots and lots of sand ... maybe a place to build a new - Gravel Pit Chapel? - what can anyone say of this pic. - that was my desperate comment ... had no idea what to write.  Hafspajen (talk) 00:36, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:40, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Would be nice if you could look through the Fp content, looking for possible Swenglishisms - from about here onward. Hafspajen (talk) 00:41, 29 November 2014 (UTC)