User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 9

DYK for Norman Kamaru
Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:38, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Copyright problems/2011 September 22
would have been easier to take it to talk. MOst of the stuff is not copyvio, but you shouldnt be wholescale reomoving EVERYTHING on presumption that it "coukld be other sources too" part of the stuff was a list and it requires proper nounces otherwise other stuff was reworded. See Talk:Sixty-sixth session of the United Nations General Assembly/TempLihaas (talk) 04:00, 22 September 2011 (UTC).
 * Im just being BOLD and putting in the newer version as there is no copyvio prob. Go ahead and shorten the quote if you want, i have no issues with that.(Lihaas (talk) 03:20, 23 September 2011 (UTC)).
 * answered queires here: Template:Did you know nominations/Sixty-sixth session of the United Nations General AssemblyLihaas (talk) 20:55, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Done?Lihaas (talk) 23:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅Lihaas (talk) 00:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Image for DYK hook
NB: The hook image for Do Right Woman, Do Right Man does not appear in the article. DYK requires that the image be used in the article. --Orlady (talk) 14:53, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Was ALT1 overlooked for Prep 1 item on John Palocaren?
FYI, I added this text at the DYK talk page (DIFF):
 * Hello, I'm not sure who I should address this to. Crisco1492 reviewed my self-nom hook on John Palocaren and then moved it to Prep Area 1. In his reviewer comments (see Template:Did_you_know_nominations/John_Palocaren) he said he agreed with me in preferring my ALT1. But then when he BUILT the Prep (DIFF) he used the original hook. I wonder if this was a mistake. I'd still recommend ALT1.

Best regards -- Presearch (talk) 22:51, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Re: Subject of image and copyright
Hi, I left a comment for you on Moonridden Girl's talk page concerning this. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Do Right Woman, Do Right Man
Orlady (talk) 00:02, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Do Right Woman, Do Right Man
Just a heads-up. Billboard's site is horribly broken and doesn't list a lot of chart positions. If you want to verify its peak, I'd say get one of the Pop books by Joel Whitburn. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. Any of those books online? I'm kinda in a bad place to go looking for books about American pop culture. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:52, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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DYK angel
No problem, thanks for all your work on the Did You Know section. Much appreciated, and consider this a low tech version of wiki-something barstars or whatever. W Nowicki (talk) 23:40, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

The Creation
Next big topic, after eternal life, smile. Thanks for looking. I added a source, German unfortunately, and expanded the structure of one movement. (Hope to add that the three parts on the same words there have different music on the same motifs.) The timpani are in the score (probably also on youtube), and much more (remember Messiah?). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Ivan Shishman
Greetings! I am sorry to bother you again but is there anything elso I can do about the article or the references? Regards, Gligan (talk) 11:39, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

ODB++

 * Thanks! Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Lake Jipe @ DYK
Hi Crisco. I fixed the formatting; now all paragraphs have inline citations. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: DYK hook for Mei-Ann Chen
ALT3 might want to be amended to say that the prize is the most prestigious for young conductors, rather than just for conducting. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:47, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Layar Terkembang
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Brian Jamieson (director)
Orlady (talk) 12:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Japanese scrolls
Yeah, I emailed Bamse more than a day ago to squeeze more of a journalistic story out of him, but he must be offline. Getting a bit late unless publications is delayed tomorrow. Could you read the caption carefully: did I get it right about the divine insect representing evil? It's a complex image, and I have trouble picking out what's what. Are we looking at a giant moth attacking a silkworm? Who are the figures grasped by the claws of the moth? Who are the human figures to the right? Any reason the landscape is so plain? There's something like a building under the green mountain. Would love to explain all of this briefly to the readers.

And it's really a fabulous featured topic, isn't it. Tony  (talk)  13:25, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

All Your Love
The album has been released, but I just did not get enough time to update it yet, I have find the sources but not time. Will it be possible for it to be released as DYK if I finish the article by Friday? Thanx in advance! ^_^ SyFuel Ignite Burned  18:26, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have updated the article. I have contacted a person whether she's willing to provide the image where the said artist and her stepson launching the album, if it is a success, I probably will add the picture to the hook. XD SyFuel Ignite Burned  15:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, take your time, the person has uploaded the picture but for the wrong license, for now all I can do is wait and once she changed it to the appropriate one, I can add a picture to the hook. Here's the picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/58822548@N06/6199706944/ taken during the official launch. SyFuel Ignite Burned 15:48, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I downloaded the picture, and it looks okay when it was small. Just waiting for the person to change the license if she's willing to do it. Anyway, terima kasih for your edit! Saya rasa sangat terhutang budi. ^_^ SyFuel Ignite Burned  20:16, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Finally!! I got the picture!! It is there, in the article, I have uploaded it it, just I'm not so sure how to add the picture to the nomination. SyFuel Ignite Burned  08:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks dear for your help with the DYK nomination!! Really glad that you helped me throughout the process. Terima kasih sekali lagi!! Here's a traditional Malay pantun for you ^_^:

Kalau ada sumur di ladang, Boleh saya menumpang mandi, Kalau ada umur yang panjang, Boleh kita berjumpa lagi.

SyFuel Ignite Burned 04:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Château de Himeji
Salut Crisco, Tout d'abord merci pour la nomination. Malheureusement je n'ai pas de version non compressée de cette photo. Lorsque je suis allé au Japon je n'étais pas encore très au fait des problèmes que pouvait causer la compression et comme je n'avais pas beaucoup d'espace sur mes cartes mémoire j'ai comprimé les photos. Grave erreur. Heureusement mes récentes photos de Syrie, Jordanie et Taiwan n'ont pas ce problème. P.S. Ton français est très correct. --Bgag (talk) 21:36, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Dewi Persik
Hi Crisco 1492. You closed Template:Did you know nominations/Dewi Persik, your own nomination, and moved it to Template:Did you know/Preparation area 4 with several other hooks. I ask you not to move your own hooks to the prep areas because of the inherent conflict of interest in doing so. I noticed that you placed your hook second on the list. While you moved the hooks to prep four in the order in which you closed the DYK nominations discussions, placing your hook second could give the impression that you are placing your own hook in the second most visible position. Please let another user move your hooks to the DYK prep in the future. Thank you, Cunard (talk) 03:15, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Cunard, and thanks for the note. In the middle of the DYK fiasco a couple months ago, I did avoid promoting my hooks. However, as I was the only one actually building preps for about four days, my hooks kept piling up (five, if I remember correctly). At the time, another editor (I forget who) suggested that I not be afraid to promote my own hooks, so long as I did not do it out of order. I agree that it is preferable to avoid promoting ones hooks too much, but if they are promoted in order and other editors seem to be ignoring the preps it should be alright. As a side note, the second most visible position is actually the last hook (the second hook is quite often cramped because of the image), which is why the last place is suggested to be saved for something that is truly unique; to address your concerns, I have switched the Nunn and Persik hooks, putting Persik in the middle and Nunn second. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:07, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Your explanation justifies your promoting your own hook. Because there are few people moving hooks to the prep area at DYK, I suppose it is okay for you to promote your own hooks. (I myself do not move hooks because I do not have the time to read all the articles moved the the prep area, and I do not feel comfortable promoting to the main page articles I have not read.) In the future, I recommend that you let 48 hours pass from the hook's being approved before moving it to the prep area. Hopefully an editor will, within that timeframe, move the hook to the queue in that time. If there is no action in two days, then there is clearly a backlog, and it would be appropriate for you to move the hook. Thank you for your hard work at DYK. You and Orlady seem to be the only editors actively reviewing the hooks at this time. Cunard (talk) 07:22, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, I think. It seems to me that nominators are being more diligent about reviewing older hooks; they no longer exclusively look at the recently nominated articles. Thanks for keeping an eye on some of these nominations; I think the Persik hook and Alaska Memorial articles were improved greatly. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:28, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your kind words about my minor work at DYK. I tend to review the older articles and close them as "no consensus to promote" if the nominators are unresponsive or the articles are too deficient. That clears the page for the newer hooks. Cunard (talk) 07:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Island of Lost Men
Allen3 talk 12:09, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Bergmann Hotel DYK?
It says here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Bergmann_Hotel that you promoted my Did You Know? nomination for the Bergmann Hotel on the Main Page, but I don't see it anywhere. Did I miss it entirely? I double checked. Perhaps the listings take a while to appear? Thanks! AlaskaMike (talk) 18:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The word "promoted" in the template is a misnomer, as nominations don't get promoted to the main page immediately. To check your nomination's progress, see Template:Did you know/Queue. (It is scheduled to go to the main page in roughly 6 hours from now.) --Orlady (talk) 18:33, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What Orlady said. In DYK, the term "promoted" means that it has been moved to one of the four preparation areas (also known as "preps"). From there, it has time to be checked even further until it is moved to the queues, which then are eventually featured on the main page. (Side note: As I am not an admin, I would not be able to put any hooks on the main page directly; the template is protected with cascading protection from the main page). Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:06, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Got it, thank you. I found it. Thank you both. :-) AlaskaMike (talk) 23:09, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Dewi Persik
Materialscientist (talk) 00:10, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

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Wikimedia Indonesia pilot project
Hi, Crisco 1492. I don't think we've actually met, but I have noticed your work on articles about Indonesia and templates. The article on Sitti Nurbaya has prompted me to buy the book :) I am writing to let you know about a Wikimedia Indonesia pilot project: On Friday October 7, the first session will take place in a new three month collaboration between Wikimedia Indonesia and the Lontar Foundation that hopes to create 300 new articles about Indonesian writers, their works, and related foundations and organizations. See you around. Regards, --Dianna (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

I saw your enquiry of the 15th ult. and made the following reply:


 * On en:wikipedia you will need a BRFA if you intend to create more than "about 25-50 pages". Botpol does not specify in what period. On other wikis different rules may apply. In terms of notability, if the article does not make a reasonable claim to notability for the subject, it risks being speedied.  BLP requires that material about living people is sourced, and that should not be hard. Rich Farmbrough, 12:10, 7 October 2011 (UTC).


 * Thanks Rich, I'll tell the representative from Wikimedia. If I meet him tomorrow, we can discuss it face-to-face. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Saman (novel)
The DYK project (nominate) 00:37, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Cold lava
We don't seem to have an article on this term. How about writing a quick article on it and making your Garin Nugroho hook a twofer? Gatoclass (talk) 15:33, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems to be a another word for lahar. (This seems to describe a lahar flow. Perhaps piping to lahar?) Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:44, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Re:Benyamin Sueb
Wah, Mas Crisco lagi di Jakarta ya? Sampai kapan Mas? Terima kasih tambahan gambarnya. αδζ  ψακ   φρψερ  08:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh udah pulang. Ga apa2 Mas kalo ga sempet beli roti buaya, lagian ramenya pas lebaran doang. αδζ   ψακ   φρψερ  09:46, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Under the Tree (film)
Orlady (talk) 00:03, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Nólsoyar Páll
Thanks for looking at that nomination and passing it. I don't know what happened there. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:32, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Garin Nugroho
Materialscientist (talk) 12:01, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, Dr. B.! Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:00, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Garin Nugroho. Great work! I started that, I recognized the name!♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:50, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, not a bad start. Shame that when I started the expansion it had a copyvio in it :-(. The Shirelles was much the same, but the replacement was much better. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:54, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Chairil Anwar
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for JJ Cahill Memorial HS
G'day Crisco. Umm. You seem to have shortened the hook for JJ Cahill Memorial HS at Template:Did_you_know/Queue... Kinda seems uninteresting (and a bit misleading) in it's shortened state? The original is at Template:Did_you_know_nominations/J_J_Cahill_Memorial_High_School. &tilde;danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:05, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Argo Tea DYK hook
Thanks for promoting Argo Tea to prep 1. I am just curious. It seems to me that the hook might get more views if you point out that tea is the world's most popular beverage after water. What were your thoughts?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * that would be interesting. It would also get tea a lot of hits.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know if you are online.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:48, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks like we are going with the modified version. Can you put it back in one of the queues (preferably for a Western world daytime slot).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:30, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Re:
I personally think the image is good, but I guess it can stay off if needed. :)  Toa   Nidhiki  05  12:43, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure.  Toa   Nidhiki  05  00:02, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Titiek Puspa
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Nia_Dinata.jpg
Seriously... you call that an improvement? You just took a mediocre quality image and made it significantly worse. Congratulations. You should learn that sometimes doing nothing is the best course of action. JBarta (talk) 19:45, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Felice Quinto
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Ratih Hardjono
Hi Crisco. I saw your comment regarding the article drive for Indonesian writers, particularly if we can get them to DYK quality. So I've made a start with Ratih Hardjono. It needs expanding to be dyk-worthy. Don't know if you'd like to work on it, or if you can suggest someone else whom I can ask as many g-book hits are in Indonesian? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:58, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Crisco - If you're interested in another writer from Indonesia, I started Yvonne Keuls a couple of days ago. No worries if you're busy with other things. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:58, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Let the Good Times Roll (film)
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Article in DYK Q 6 has moved
In the queue, we need the hook for Pot 'O Gold to read Pot of Gold. I wasn't sure if the redirect could remain in the accepted hook. Thx :)  Rcej (Robert) –  talk  05:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Masoud Shafiee DYK
Crisco, user Nikkimaria blocked my DYK over some overblown close paraphrasing issues. I've now changed the sentence in question and I would appreciate it if you would put it back in the DYK queue as soon as possible. For the future, is it acceptable what Nikkimaria did, particularly after you already approved it and said paraphrasing was fine? Much appreciated. Plot Spoiler (talk) 23:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Your support here would be appreciated . Thank you. Plot Spoiler (talk) 01:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Crisco, please review Cunard's closure of the DYK. I worked hard on that article and would like requisite credit for it. It seems to have become a personal issue for him/her that shouldn't jeopardize the work I put into this. Thank you. Plot Spoiler (talk) 21:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Under the Protection of Ka'Bah
Excellent work on the expansion of this film article!  Lugnuts  (talk) 17:19, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Lugnuts! Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Once (singer)
Orlady (talk) 00:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Lemon Souffle
Thanks for your comments on the Lemon Souffle DYK nomination. It's useful to have a group of experienced editor's discussing one of the articles I started (almost said "my" article there). I will certainly take the points you made about citations into account in future. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 00:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)