User talk:Crisgai

Information nin your article on Alice Springs Hijacking 1972 is incorrect.
I was the other air hostess on board that flight to Alice Springs on 15th Nov. 1972. I don't know how you recieved your info but it's not how things happened. Kaye was the hostage but on the aircraft I was very involved with hijacker as I was being upgraded to senior on that flight.

If you are interested I' m happy to chat. I remaind in several airlines for another 38 years.

Cheers Gay Crisgai (talk) 20:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello, Gay, and welcome to Wikipedia. There are a few things I can say that may help you.


 * 1) Luckily, my attention happened to be caught by your edit to this page as I was checking edits by new users. However, it is far more likely that if you just post here nobody will notice, as there are thousands of user talk pages, and no particular reason why anyone should look at this one. A better place to post would be the talk page of the article you are referring to, but even then there is no guarantee that anyone will look there, in the case of an article which is not the subject of frequent editing: if you mean the article I think you must mean, nobody has edited there since February. If you have a specific request for a particular bit of help, you can attract attention to your message by putting  above it, which causes the page to be put on a list of pages where help is being requested. However, it is not a good idea to do that and just say that you are willing to chat: it is intended to be used when you have a request for some definite kind of help, such as "can you please help me to put such and such into the article".
 * 2) When you refer to an article in a talk page, it is best to copy the exact title of the article. I saw you referred to "your article on Alice Springs Hijacking 1972", so I looked for an article called Alice Springs Hijacking 1972, and found there wasn't one. I then tried Alice Springs Hijacking, and found that doesn't exist either. After some searching around I eventually found Ansett Airlines Flight 232, and I guess that must be the one you mean. Apart from the fact that giving the exact title would have saved me some time and trouble, there is also the fact that many people would have just given up, without finding the article at all.
 * 3) Obviously, since you were actually on the scene, you may well be able to tell us how the article is inaccurate. However, there are at least three problems with accepting the word of someone who comes along and says "I was there at the time, so you can take my word for it". Firstly, there is the unfortunate fact that in a web site that almost anyone can edit, we do get people who come along and lie, claiming to have first-hand knowledge when in fact they don't. Secondly, we don't always remember things as accurately as we think we do years later. Thirdly, very often someone who was personally involved in something has a personal biased point of view or an axe to grind, so their testimony is not entirely reliable. I have no reason to think that is so in your case, but I am explaining it so you will understand that just saying you know from personal experience will not guarantee that what you say will get put into the article. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't tell us what your experience is, but it does mean that you should if possible provide a reliable source to back up. You may like to look at the guide to reliable sources.
 * 4) If you post an answer to this message, you may like to include  in your message. Provided you also sign your post by typing ~, that will result in an automatic notification to me that you have pinged me, so I can come back and see what you have written. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)