User talk:Crispy385

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Stanley Cup winning players
Hello,

I just saw your message to me (I'm not on here much anymore). Feel free to use anything from the page you referenced (User:Leech44/List of player names on the Stanley Cup) A few things to note though:
 * 1) The format of the page has changed since it was first mentioned on the Talk:Stanley Cup winning players page. I think that it is easier to read if you are adding which teams they were playing for for each year.
 * 2) Changes have been made to the functionality that makes the current sort-ability problematic because it it is repeating players for each year line they won a Cup.
 * 3) I'm not sure the best way to fix that issue since combining the year into one line would then prevent them from any useful sorting.
 * 4) If your updating the Stanley Cup winning players page you'll have to decide if you want to narrow the scope. The page currently includes guys who did not qualify to have their name engraved, but may have been given rings or included in team pictures. When I started creating the list I was using the rosters from NHL.com that are in the reference at the bottom of the page or the NHL Guide and Record book if you can find one at a library. Some of the players on the current page are not included in these rosters
 * 5) Players in the bottom table probably need to be combined into the top table (My page was originally meant to be a list of player who were engraved on the Cup)
 * 6) The years on the bottom table might need to be altered since it was in part the challenge up era, so some of the winners only held the Cup for months before losing to another squad. It doesn't always follow the season format (YYXX-XZ) though for consistency that's how it is currently set up.
 * 7) If you combined all of the players into a single table as opposed to the alphabetic sections the page currently has, you'll probably want to add a sorting box like some of the list of team players have.
 * 8) As for "Should I not bother?" I'm always in favor of page improvement so if you feel that you can change this into a sortable table I say go for it.

Cheers, --Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 17:58, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * It doesn't matter whether it's an official summary or not, the text is still copyrighted if the source doesn't explicitly say otherwise and it can't be used here.  Hut 8.5  21:36, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * So, how is posting the official summary (aka, the one from the back of the book) different from posting the cover of the book? Should it not fall under the same Fair Use category. Also, that website is a fan community site unaffiliated by either Fox or Bantam Books (not to mention flagged as malware by my protection), so how can it claim any sort of copyright? I'm not just trying to be difficult; these are legitimate questions. I'm new to Wikipedia, so I'm still learning the ropes here. Crispy385 (talk) 04:55, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * It doesn't really matter who wrote the text, because somebody did and that person has the copyright unless they explicitly disclaim it. It is possible for texts to be in the public domain if they were written a long time ago, but that clearly isn't the case here. If the source uses the right licence then we can also use it, but you'd need to provide evidence of that. Incidentally I wouldn't assume that the site linked by the bot is the original source of the work, that's just where the bot found it. The same summary text is being used in numerous places throughout the internet including by people selling the book and I suspect it may well have been written by the publisher.
 * You're right that it is possible to claim fair use on quotations, but not this one. There's an explanation at WP:COPYQUOTE. Basically quotations need to be brief, attributed and not excessively used. If you wanted to write something like Fred Bloggs, a reviewer for Some Magazine, wrote that "the book is really great, I read it obsessively and couldn't put it down" then that would be fine - that quotation is attributed to the source, is very brief and the article hopefully won't consist of quotations. (You can often see articles about books, films or music using quotations like this.) What you did in this article is closer to copying huge chunks of Fred's review without giving any indication that he wrote it. For fair use of images (which have lots of complex restrictions) we also have a principle that you can't use a fair use image if it's possible to create a free equivalent. Here anybody who has read the book would be able to write their own summary without using copyrighted text.
 * If you're new or don't know what you're doing with respect to copyright (which is entirely understandable) then my advice would be to avoid copying text from other places when writing articles. That way you definitely won't run into any problems.  Hut 8.5  17:38, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, that makes sense. Thanks for taking the time and spelling it out for me!Crispy385 (talk) 05:28, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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