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emporis.com
i'll re-word things that i get from external sources, ok? i'll just need time.  Raccoon Fox • Talk • Stalk''' 15:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

"Expounding on Lansingite"
Following the 1st of the Five Pillars of Wikipedia, I believe people being called "Lansingites" is a matter of opinion and is indiscriminate trivia. --Lugnut215 21:00, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

hollow threats
first off, i gave emporis as my source. i don't give in to hallow threats, so leave me alone. I have a life outside of the internet. go ahead and delete all you want if that gets you off. i just hope that doesn't make you look too immature. besides, you never specified how you want me to re-write them. so go and nominate everything for deletion, and i'll counter with a speedy keep for every single one  RaccoonFox • Talk • Stalk''' 02:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Deleted page "Hotel Pontchartrain (2nd nomination)"
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Re: Deleting Pages
Criticalthinker wrote:
 * Hello,


 * You recently deleted my nomination for the Hotel Pontchartrain in Detroit. Now, I've been here for quite some time, but I find this process a bit overwhelming, and I'm unable where I've made my mistake in nominating the page for deletion?  I've read the deletion pages, but can't figure out how to get the reason to show for why I nominated a page for deletion.  The fact is many people have expressed interest in ridding us of the ridiculous skyscraper pages for Detroit, of which he makes pages for the smallest and most insignificant of Detroit high-rises. Help! --Criticalthinker 08:39, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, apologies for the confusion; I should have explained more thoroughly. It looks like you've figured it out now, anyway. What happened was you created a page at Hotel Pontchartrain (2nd nomination) – since this doesn't start with "Wikipedia:", you were effectively starting a new article called "Hotel Pontchartrain (2nd nomination)", which obviously we don't need. Deletion discussion pages should be named "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/" followed by the name of the page. The quickest way to nominate an article for deletion is to add   to the article, save the page, then click the "Preloaded debate" link at the bottom of the notice  – this will bring up the correct page along with instructions on what to do next – Gurch 13:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/University of North Carolina Tower Chapel Hill
Hello. You have edited this AfD after it was closed, inserting a "keep" comment. Please do not do this - it says right there, in red letters:
 *  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Thank you, Sandstein 20:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Spring Arbor, Michigan vs. Spring Arbor, Michigan (CDP)

 * You may post on my user page if you wish about the CDP issue. I'm really interested in understanding how the SA CDP article vs. the SA Community article confuses you.  I'm completely open to comment, but I still object to merging the CDP article with the Community article simply because the two are not the same.


 * I see that you are form Jackson, which is near to Spring Arbor. The best regional comparison I can give is that the community of Jackson is not the same as the "City of Jackson."  Jackson extends beyond this area into Blackman, Summit and Leoni Townships.  The "community" of Jackson fits this concept, however the "City of Jackson" obviously does not.  The Spring Arbor, Michigan (CDP) is comparable to the area immediately surrounding the City of Jackson's DDA.  Obviously "Jackson" includes more than just the DDA.  Likewise, it would not make sense to say that Jackson, Michigan includes only the City of Jackson, Michigan (referring to the municipality); it includes the actual community.  The Spring Arbor, Michigan (CDP) was specifically designated to give statistics specific to the area immediately surrounding Spring Arbor University.


 * If the statistics for the Jackson Downtown Development Authority were merged with the Jackson, Michigan article as if the Jackson, Michigan article referred to the DDA, it would not make sense. The Jackson, Michigan article does not refer specifically to the DDA of Jackson; it refers to a much larger area.  This closely parallels on the same level as is currently being proposed by merging the CDP article with the community article, as would be the case if one were to suggest merging the Jackson DDA with the Jackson, Michigan article.  Please let me know what objections you have that confuse you about the current article.  I'm willing to work out a wording that will fit both your understanding and my own local understanding. mdkarazim 03:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Help on Ogg
You are not very clear. What operating system are you on? What kind of software did you try? And more importantly what kind of Ogg files did you try to play? Audio? Video? Mixed?

I'll assume you are on Windows, and trying to play a video. You should install illi's codecs as mentioned on the steps in the page. Then you open your Direct Show player (I assume it's WMP), and drag and drop the file into it.-- Saoshyant talk / contribs (I don't like Wikipedophiles) 11:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If you want a media player that can play literally every format on the planet without having to install additional codecs, I highly recommend VideoLAN . When you install VideoLAN, if you tick 'ActiveX plugin' and 'Mozilla plugin' (for Firefox browser, which I recommend ), then when you click on an OGG file on Wikipedia, it will play it within your web browser. Otherwise, when you click on an OGG file it will open it in a seperate VLC player window. Madder 21:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I just wnat to play it in Windows Media Player, and even after installing the codecs provided in the "help" page for ogg it still didn't work in WMP when just clicking on ogg here at wikipedia an expecting it to open my WMP. --Criticalthinker 21:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Again I recommend VLC, but if you want to use WMP, you need to install the Windows Media Player plugin for Ogg vorbis - see . If you right-click the link to an OGG vorbis file on Wikipedia, choose Save as, save the file, then start WMP and attempt to open the file, does it play? And which version of WMp are you using? Madder 21:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Carrying on. After you install illi's codecs, the next step is to make WMP the default player for all Ogg files. What you need to do, is save one Ogg file to the disk (video or audio), right click on it, choose Open With, Choose Program, then scan the software list for WMP, and before you click the OK button, tick on the check box "Make this application the default one for this file type", or some similar option (it shouldn't be hard to find). From then one, every Ogg file should open by default on WPM.

If you find these tips useful, you may want to help other people in the future, who may have difficulties with Ogg files. It's your choice, though.-- Saoshyant talk / contribs (I don't like Wikipedophiles) 14:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Jackson, Michigan
Hello, I'm a Wikipedian from Jackson. The history section is a good idea. I'm going home for winter break on Tuesday, and I plan on expanding that section using a book I have on the history of Jackson (we need some references on that page). I'm hoping to model this page after Ann Arbor, Michigan, a current featured article. Hopefully we can eventually make Jackson an FA as well. Do you have any other ideas? Dafoeberezin3494 15:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * As far as I can tell, some of the most important things the FA people are looking for right now are making sure articles are NPOV, and that articles have refs + inline citations. I've never written one myself, so I'm not sure what else they will look for.  Anyway, thanks again for the chart and if you have any other ideas, add them to the page.  Happy editing! Dafoeberezin3494 03:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Critical --

I sent an email to Ella Sharp, asking for some help on the history section. I added the motor sports section tonite. Judging by the clump of "edit" tags, I fear I might've messed up the formatting tho. Tim Wohlford, Jackson.

Twohlford 05:00, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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Malta height
I've added a link. Cheers. Marcus1234 06:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

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Why you should not replace Cavelaars et al 2000
Since he removed the Chinese source because it is Chinese, lets remove foreign language sources such as French, Finnish, Swedish, etc., and replace them with outdated English sources. Keep only the English sources such as the OUTDATED Cavelaars et al 2000.Unfreeride 15:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * What are you talking about? --Criticalthinker 23:02, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Campus Martius
While I haven't seen anything that says specifically that Campus Martius Park is 'city-owned', the Conservancy section of the park's website says the Detroit 300 Conservancy is "responsible for management, maintenance and operation of the Park under a long term operating agreement with the City of Detroit." If the park was privately owned, it would seem such an agreement would need to be with the person or company that owns it, not the City. Also, under the history section of that site, the references to Dennis Archer, Kwame Kilpatrick, and the City Council says to me that this was very much a city project, although like many park projects, it was funded by private donations. While none of these are conclusive, it seems it would be more likely that this is city-owned than private.--Scottr76 14:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have emailed Robert Gregory, President of the Detroit 300 Conservancy, at the email address listed on the site's 'Staff' page. I'll share the response with you when I receive it.--Scottr76 21:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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Chilean population updates
Hi Criticalthinker.

I've noted that you've made some updates to populations in several Chilean settlements, however, you haven't cited your sources. Most of the articles refer to the 2002 census which although is dated, is published and readily available.

One of the biggest weaknesses of many articles on Chile is their lack of documented sources. If you have reliable recognized sources for your updates, I'd encourage you to cite them in the articles you edit, even if the previous version didn't have specific citations -- this will help improve the quality of each article. Thanks -- JAXHERE  | Talk 15:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll site them, but as you already said, the official 2002 is easily accessible. I thought it enough to simply say that it was from the 2002 Census. --Criticalthinker 20:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * List_of_policies is the ultimate word on this. Put into practice, the more we can cite sources, the better the article will be.  Even though a source may be readily availble, we are assuming that every reader of each article knows this and where to find it if we don't include it.  It's hard to add a source to material in an existing article because you're not the one putting it in, but it would be a great habit to cite sources when adding or updating an article. -- JAXHERE  | Talk 15:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Huron Charter Township
What is the menaing of your edit to this page. "Metro: 386.2" What could this refer to? Rmhermen 19:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Grosse Ile Township, Michigan
Your edit to this article appears to be incorrect (by 0.4 people/sq.km) but more importantly is introducing far to many significant figures to this number. I reduced it to 4 figures although really it should only show 2 or 3 because of the limit of accuracy of the land area figure. Rmhermen 19:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Where are you sourcing this information from? "And, just so you know, population density is given in every articles "geography" sections, which takes into account the entire land area to the nearest acre, so it is much, much more accurate than simply taking the density to the nearest tenth of a square mile." Wikipedia articles do not list down to the acre. Rmhermen 22:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Lincoln Park, Michigan
You recently changed the population density on this article. However, 44,008/5.8= 7587 as originally shown, not 6834. I am missing something? Rmhermen 19:33, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Found the problem with this one. Arkyan mistakenly changed the population to 44008 instead of 40008 when he/she put the geobox in the article. Rmhermen 02:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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All of your edits seemed to be in goodfaith and added some useful information; therefore I only reverted the parts of your edits that were incorrect. Regards, &mdash;MJCdetroit 13:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

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Sterling Heights, MI
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Human Height
Hi, do you know how to block a page for esditing by IP? I think, we need to do this because the Human Height page is always be vandalize! You can help me? italodal 19:00, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Kilpatrick's
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Attack through knowingly false vandalism claims
Your afd was deliberately disruptive and your false vandalism allegations merely demonstrated your bad faith. Please desist from bad behaviour that bring you and the project into disrepute in the future, i do not appereciate being attacked in this way by you. Thanks, SqueakBox 02:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Delhi
The commonly tabulated figure for the "city" of Delhi by Census India is only the urban part. If you are going to use the 1397 sq km figure, I think you should be able to simply subtract off the other two municipalities (303263 + 124917) from the state figure. --Polaron | Talk 00:30, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem is that World Gazetteer uses the urban part of the municipality (which is what Census India actually tabulates) as the basis for its estimates. I suppose we could simply use its estimate for the state and substract its estimates for the two other municipalities. --Polaron | Talk 00:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

world's largest conurbations
At User talk:Polaron, you said "The area of the Delhi Municipal Corporation isn't so large that we should use anything less than that municipal boundary. If you'd like to add the urban area, you can add that to the page of the world's largest conurbations." Where's the page of the world's largest conurbations? The closest I've been able to find is List of conurbations in the United Kingdom. Toliar (talk) 19:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! Toliar (talk) 00:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Capital Region International Airport
Sorry, it was accidental

I've been migrating these templates (done over 2000, and nearly complete now), and I will have made some minor mistakes. The templates are deprecated, and have been replaced, so there was no need to revert it all, as you can see from my last edit on it, it only needed the image adding to the new infobox.

With such variation in the formatting of the old infoboxes (images in various parameters, different templates etc), i have done it semi-automatedly to try and reduce errors as much as possible, rather than, say, getting a bot to do this. Trying to make sure anything that wasnt automatically moved, that i moved it myself.

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List of Michigan Airports
Hello. A response to the question you posted at User talk:Zyxw has been added in that section of my talk page. -- Zyxw (talk) 04:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Sarajevo
Hi. Thanks for your edit to Sarajevo because it made me realise that the population source could be used for the population of the four municipalities that make up the city. It also made me realise that the canton and the urban area are probably not the same thing. Do you know which municipalities make up the urban area? The article suggests that it's Centar, Novi Grad, Novo Sarajevo and Stari Grad (the city proper), plus Ilidža and Vogošća. Do you know if this is correct? Cordless Larry (talk) 08:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about the area of the municipalities because I can't find a source stating that. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Your revision did was not supported by linked citation.
Your revision to the Statewide opinion polling for the United States presidential election, 2008 giving Ralph Nader 6% in the latest CNN/Time poll was not supported by the linked article so it has been reverted. Before adding minor party candidates in the poll listings, make sure that the cited report specifically lists what percentage each candidate gets. The linked article in question combined minor party candidates without listing what each minor party candidate got. Steelbeard1 (talk) 11:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Time Magazine link worked when I tried it. But the point is that the poll listings must be backed up by the linked article.  If it's in the alternate link you used, then you must include that article's link on the table. Steelbeard1 (talk) 22:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

It does not. The quoted material states:

In New Hampshire and Michigan, both states won by John Kerry in 2004, Obama is leading McCain 51% to 45% and 49% to 45% respectively. When Libertarian candidate Bob Barr and Independent Ralph Nader are added in, Obama's lead narrows in Michigan to 45% to 42% and just slightly in New Hampshire to 48% to 43%.

The link is at http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1840327,00.html Steelbeard1 (talk) 23:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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Delhi
I just reverted your change for the area of Delhi at List of urban areas by population. The area you listed is definitly not for the Municipal Corporation of Delhi, although I can't say where your figures of 1,397.2 sq.km comes from. It would be great if you can provide a source for that figure. The 431 sq.km is the area of the Municipal Corporation of Delhi at the 2001 population census. This is excluding all the other cities, towns and other smaller administrative units within the urban agglomeration, and the rest of the National Capital Territory - and, believe me, there are many of these units in the NCT others than the Delhi MC! I can't say if there has been any administrative changes after that, but it doesn't matter in this case anyway as the 11.3 million population figure for Delhi is a computation based on 2001 census results. So, that's why the given area must also be based on the 2001 administrative boundaries, whatever changes in the administrative boundaries that's happened after that.--Pjred (talk) 12:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Gross metropolitan product
My pleasure. It's good to be able to fix things that are wrong. I'll keep it watchlisted to make sure nobody fools around with it :-) AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 18:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Image
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Chinese Heights
Okay, I was wondering if you wanted to do something about the Chinese heights. They have four different soucres, and eight heights listed. It's really hard to get a sense of the average height when you're looking at all of those numbers. Which source seem the most reliable to you?--Ssk7 (talk) 16:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, the more I look at it, it's quite clear which ones can go. There are old heights listed with the new heights, which is not needed. I'm editing them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssk7 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I actually deleted one of the more recent Chinese heights, because when I went to the source, it wasn't even an official study, but an estimate. What's left on the page is the most accurate AND recent sources. --Ssk7 (talk) 16:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

What is up with the Chinese heights? Everytime I remove one, somebody comes along and adds them all back. There is seriously no reason to have eights heights for one country, no matter how large it is. We have have five listed, and we're called the freaking melting pot. China is homogeneous, so what's the point? Who is that person? Have you incountered him/her before?

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Lansing, Michigan vandalism
I did not try to undo the vandalism there, as it was so pervasive that a revert was necessary. He did a lot of mischief on a lot of other pages (which I undid), with the exception of Grand Rapids, Michigan, which was also buggered up. I'm with you that a block on is in order, but I'm no admin either. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 17:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC) Stan
 * FYI, he's been indefinitely blocked. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 02:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC) Stan

Human Heights
I think adding the additional heights for South Africa is a great idea. However, instead of the listing that says "coloured", I would use mixed, which is the same thing. I say this, because if you put coloured on there, it will be vandalized, even though that's how the article lists it. It's really not worth starting an edit war over, so using "mixed" would be a small concession. What do you think?--Ssk7 (talk) 05:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at the Indonesian heights. One of them is Self-reported, and for people fifty and over. Do you really think that listing is necessary considering we have measured data for the younger generation?--Ssk7 (talk) 06:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I've already commented on the South African heights above. But, take a look at a few of the men's heights. There has been some hell of a vandalism going on, and I can't fix it all. I don't have te time. But, it's ridiculous.--Ssk7 (talk) 17:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, I figured out who did it, and manually changed it.--Ssk7 (talk) 17:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, why didn't you add the South African heights you discovered?--Ssk7 (talk) 14:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

0_0 I meant discovered as in found, located, etc... Anyway, I did check them out, and they seem fine. I don't know why someone would delete them.--Ssk7 (talk) 19:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

London
Hi, I don't really use wikipedia much, so sorry if this is the wrong place to write to you.

I'm pretty sure that the population of the City of London is 7000 and that Greater London is a ceremonial county, much in the same way that the West Midlands is a ceremonial county - with a population of 3,683,000 - which means that it too should be considered for the list surely? It too is governed by one ruling council with various different local councils, much in the same way as Greater London.

Oh and the figure that you have written down for the population of Greater London is wrong anyway; it's more like 14,000,000+ seeing as the metropolitan population of London is 13,709,000 Largest_cities_and_metropolitan_areas_in_Europe and the remainder of Greater London (Westminster, The City, Temple, Biggin Hill, Wooking, Dartford, Hemel Hempstead, Slough, Luton, Potters Bar etc) are all contained within Greater London and all contribute to the population; the population of the City of Westminster is 234,000 on its own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.234.143 (talk) 10:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

titles
An admin thought that the MSA/CSA titles were a bit ambigous, and the metro and region were better choice of headings, so they were changed to metro and region as a result of a compromise at city guidlines. Thanks for understanding. Atlanta does use region for CSA in the table. Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 23:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The idea seemed to be the abbreviations MSA/CSA are unknown to some and potentially ambiguous. I'm fine with calling them MSA and CSA or Metro and Region, but the admin person preferred Metro and Region as being more clear than an abbreviation. I'll post the discussion on the template discussion page and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/Guideline for a while and see if there are any objections to calling it MSA and CSA again or we could place MSA and CSA in the bottom footnote and leave Metro and Region at the top.Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 13:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

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American Heights
You say that those extra links use the same source, but all of the measurements from those studies are different. Secondly, though the article itself came out recently, the data that they're listing is older than what's already being used. Lastly, there are already five accurate heights listed for Americans; why are you so interested in adding some more? Besides China's listings, which I also think is ridiculous, no other country has that many. Most people come here to get a relatively solid answer, and all of the heights you're trying to add is just contradictory to the offical heights. I really think you should consider what the other reader said, and put the extra American heights in their own box. Besides, there is a linked page that is specifically for Race and Height.--Ssk7 (talk) 04:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, this is getting a little extreme. I'm not trying to be an ass, and I hope I'm not coming off as one. I think both of our goals is to make Wikipedia better, right? Well, I understand why you want multiple sources, but my concern is that the page will get cluttered. Even though it's technically one source listed as of now, it gives all of the essential information. The section that is seriously in need of more is the "race and height" area. It's a stub, which surprises me, because a lot of people are interested in that. That's why I suggested you put it there. That section really needs it, where as the section you're trying to add it to is pretty sufficient. Check it out, and see what I'm talking about. It's a section or two below the main chart. :)--Ssk7 (talk) 05:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I edited the American heights with the new data. For the individual races, I used the 20-39 data, instead of the 20 and over data. I did this, because most people are interested in the "new" adults so to speak. For the all American data, however, I used the 20-29 data and 20 and over data. This will show a good contrast between the youth of America, and the overall population.--Ssk7 (talk) 23:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

The 20+ years old data in the survey tend to be more accurate because it has larger sample sizes and much smaller margin of errors, plus is should give a more accurate picture of each population as a whole. The ethnic populations sample sizes in each age category are not that big, hence they have larger margins of error. When all the sample sizes for the different age ranges are added up in the 20+ year category in each race group, it creates a larger sample which naturally has a smaller margin of error hence more realible. The 20-39, 40-64 and 65+ ages categories are sub sections of the 20+ section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.111.25.195 (talk) 22:26, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean, because at the end of the day, the younger generation data, while maybe less reliable than that of the main source, is still just as reliable if not more so than the younger generation data for other country heights on the page. The fact of the matter is that we will keep it included as we try to find at least two major heights for each nation: the entire adult population and then the younger adult population.  --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I see your point, then we should do the populations for the adult population(20+) by race too just like for the young population. But that will leave it too cluttered. I always believed that the main point is the average height of the population as whole. So I think we should focus of that mainly, but this does not mean we should neglect the younger population. I propose we we include the average of 20+ heights by race and then one of All americans 20-39. That way we focus on the main general population but also have a segment dedicated to the younger population.

The main section of the study was about the average height of the population as a whole. The 20-39 population is a sub section of that main section. Why are we dedicating three sections for the 20-39 populations and only one for the 20+ section. I understand that we should not ignore the young population, but dedicating three sections to it compared to just one section for the entire adult population seems wrong. Most people come to see the average height of the population not just a sub section of that population. The study takes the results of all three age sections when it calculated the average height of each population. [Nes] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seaeagle800 (talk • contribs) 09:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Moved from Userpage
Hello. I just noticed the following on your userpage when it seems the user was trying to address youMunci (talk) 17:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC):

what are you the wikipolice? Seems to me you are only a sensor who will try to silence people, people are welcome to their opinions, and by the way, my opinions are not vandalism, they are the truth, the cold hard truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakersw22 (talk • contribs)

Reporting edit warrior we are dealing with
See as I've reported the edit warrior we've been battling in the Michigan gubernatorial election, 2010 article. Steelbeard1 (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I can add this (which I did not mention in my reply below your message to me) that the administrator blocked for 48 hours the three IP addresses the troll used. Steelbeard1 (talk) 11:05, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Borough in New York
Hi, I saw your post from October in the discussion for the article Administrative divisions of New York. As far as I can tell, the definition given regarding New York municipal law is erroneous and unsourced. The boroughs were specifically set up to be sub-divisions of New York City. In fact, when the boroughs were first created, Queens County contained the Borough of Queens as well as several towns that did not join the city. Also, the boroughs of Manhattan and the Bronx were part of the same county until 1914. So no, a borough is not 'the merger of all towns within a county.' A borough is a unique entity set up only for the city of New York. 98.221.124.80 (talk) 11:45, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Gutchess Metropolitan Business College
Hello, Please explain why this was removed from the Metro Detroit page. Another editor change the redirect from Gutchess Metropolitan Business College to point here which is unhelpful if no information is given at the end. What is said about the college is supported by 3 citations.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 08:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That section is obviously for existing colleges and universities. If even Gutchess was still  in operation, it'd have still been inappropriate to add details next to it, as no other university gets its own explanation.  It's about consistency, plain and simple.  Not sure why you are even messing with that page to begin with. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Everyone acting in good faith is free to edit.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 11:08, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * True. You made a mistake, and it was corrected.  No worries. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:39, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Fort William, Scotland
I agree that the previous wording was strange and rather POV, but actually your new version doesn't quite work. The reason is that Inverness is a city, not a town (in Britain the difference is important) and so "second largest town ... after the town of Inverness" is not accurate. I'll see if I can think of a better way to put it than the original POV version, but that's still accurate. Loganberry (Talk) 00:04, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

East Lansing (Amtrak)
I appreciate your concern over the obvious discrepency in ridership numbers between the MDOT source and the Great American Stations source. I've received complaints each year I've posted new ridership numbers in Michigan, and only Michigan. Henceforth, Michigan can take care of its own ridership numbers! According to MDOT's website, "Data in this report may differ from similar Amtrak reports due to differences in the way MDOT and Amtrak treat data not specifically attributed to individual stations..." I assume this is our culprit.

Also, I would hardly call the MDOT numbers "better sourced". Great American Stations is a program run by Amtrak, and Amtrak is the operator of intercity rail services in Michigan, not the MDOT. I would suggest the G.A.S. numbers are "better sourced". That said, you should feel free to change the data I have listed (in Michigan) if you so desire. I understand and thank you for your concerns. Cranboy (talk) 01:57, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

No worries, I didn't read it that way. On a lighter note, I really need to spend some time figuring these Talk pages out! Cranboy (talk) 02:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

United State Senate election in Michigan, 2012
Please monitor the United States Senate election in Michigan, 2012 article as someone is trying to sneak in an uncited minor candidate without a citation to support its inclusion. Steelbeard1 (talk) 15:41, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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The government and constituencies in the assembly
I didn't make myself clear, noone has to resign before the legislative election. I forgot to tell you that the 2012 French legislative election will take place in less than a month. All the ministers who were deputy before being chosen as minister by the prime minister (himself chosen by the president) are of course still deputy until that election. If one decide to run for the legislative election and finally lose his assembly seat then he kind of lose his legitimacy and will have to resign as minister. That is because prime minister Ayrault has lately insisted on that usage, but as far as I know it is not a rule. I don't know if the opposite ever happened but I don't think so, they usually resign without any problem. The paradox is that if she/he actually wins her/his seat, he has to resign immediately as deputy in favour of his substitute deputy because of the separation of powers. I'm sorry for my rather unclear explanation, I hope you understand a bit better but France's political system is a little complicated and as you can guess English is not my first language. Skull33 (talk) 17:54, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed, you don't need to be a deputy for being chosen as minister. It can be anyone, and usually it is mostly the president's closest partners during the campaign or his political life. In summary : if a minister do not run for a constituency, he usually keeps being a minister ; if he runs for his constituency and loses, he almost always resigns as minister ; and if he runs for his constituency and wins, he must chose between either becoming/remainaing a deputy or remaining a minister (he generally chose the latter).
 * In the coming assembly elections, the PS will try to secure a majority in order to be able to apply their policies easily. If the UMP wins the election, the president will be forced to name a prime minister that will be acceptable to the UMP within parliament. This is called cohabition. In that case, the role of the president is very reduced. The goal for the PS is of course to get an absolute majority so that they can make all the laws the want, but if they get a simple majority which is very likely, all the current government will resign and a new government will be formed by Hollande and the prime minister (either the same or another one) right after the election taking into account the configuration of the assembly (the others left-wing parties such as the Front de Gauche) in order to form alliances within the assembly if necessary. In summary : either the PS wins and are able to do whatever they want, or the PS wins a simple majority only and would restructure the government, or they lose and there is a situation of cohabitation where all is stucked. Skull33 (talk) 12:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly. This means of course that almost nothing can be voted until the legislative election and the victory of the left since the UMP is predominant within the assembly for now. Skull33 (talk) 10:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

RE: Metropolitan Municipality
Hallo

Thanks for writing! I did not fully understand your remark. Actually, I reverted the data about Istanbul at the List of cities proper by population list since this deals with "city proper", while the new data refer to Istanbul's "büyükşehir", that is the "metropolitan city". As a matter of fact, the definition of city proper at the beginning of the list ("an urban locality without its suburbs") does not match with the actual "Istanbul büyükşehir belediyesi", which contains large areas which are not inhabited, since they are devoted to agriculture, or woods, etc. . I think that these data should go into the Metropolitan areas list. Am I wrong? Alex2006 (talk) 08:57, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I did not notice that the other user corrected the definition and the area. now I understand what you meant. I reintroduced the correct data (although, i continue to think that does not make any sense to have such data in this list, since in this way we are comparing apples with pears :-) . Bye Alex2006 (talk) 09:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hallo Criticalthinker,
 * no, I understood very well. What I don't understand is the reason why we have a list with heterogeneous data. "Istanbul büyükşehir belediyesi" (English:"Istanbul metropolitan municipality") is not a city, is a (loose) agglomeration. You can look at the article about City proper, where also Istanbul is mentioned, and is clearly stated, that "...for some large cities, such as Istanbul or Ankara, only agglomeration data are given". The agglomeration IS the "büyükşehir belediyesi", which is not the city, but city + suburbs + towns + forests etc. etc, this means, the former Istanbul Province. I think that the problem arise because in this list there is the attempt to apply worldwide what is a local (U.S.? ) concept. Alex2006 (talk) 12:51, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem, discussion is the salt of life. :-) The cities in Istanbul Province are towns, which now are part of a district of "Istanbul büyükşehir". A district (ilçe) is a subdivision of a province, but in case of Istanbul (and of the others - I think 15 - büyükşehirlar in Turkey) is also a primary subdivision of a "büyükşehir". A district can be subdivided into one of more municipalities (belediye). Moreover, among the municipalities it existes a "supermunicipality" called "Istanbul büyükşehir belediyesi", which controls the metropolitan city. "Urban" districts (as Bakirköy) have usually only a municipality, while "rural" districts, as Çatalca, have usually more than one. I suspect that data about Istanbul as "city" (as it was described in the previous version of the list) was obtained grouping the "urban" districts, while now the whole metropolitan area (urban + rural districts) is considered. The problem is that I don't know whether the Tüik or Istanbul itself has an official statistical designation for the "mostly contiguous, settled/developed area" of Istanbul (that is, the urban districts). This - if existing - would be a good definition of Istanbul as city proper. I hope that I could explain the case of Istanbul. Alex2006 (talk) 11:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Luanda
You registered the administrative division in the article on Luanda (city). Don't you think it shoud be registered in the article on Luanda (Province)? -- Aflis (talk) 11:29, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi! I looked at this old edit - I think the reason why I structured the sentence in the manner I did is because I remembered some English teachers saying that active tense is preferable in English to passive tense

Maybe it's something to ask a reference desk? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Corrections
Sure! I'll be happy to list city facilities. News articles will help a lot if there's a transition going on WhisperToMe (talk) 04:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I did a google site search for "jail" and "prison on detroitmi.gov and it didn't turn up info on correctional facilities operated by the city WhisperToMe (talk) 04:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

CATA
Now that you ask me, I found that imfo on a page about Cata's new bus shed. 35.11.55.167 (talk) 20:35, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Of it
See the last discussion in the below link (I don't know how to link directly to a discussion or I would). The removal of "of it" from the standard geography sentence has been discussed. I don't know why you put it back in after I deleted it, but you seem to be the gate keeper for Lansing so I'm not going to touch it again you can either remove it or leave depending on how you feel after reading the discussion. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cities/US_Guideline Jamo2008 (talk) 02:50, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I reverted the entire edit, but all I really wanted reverted was placing the Census Bureau's 2011 municipal-level population estimates in the infobox, since the Census has warned, itself, that the 2011 sub-county estimates aren't to be taken as legitimate estimates, and that they'll have their formula reworked for the release of the 2012 numbers in July. I have no problem with the "of it" wording.  If you'd like to change that back, that'd be great. --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:56, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I saw you undid the bot one so I went in and deleted the of it, you then proceeded to turn right around and stick it back in so I assumed you had an issue with me getting rid of that as well. If you haven't changed it by the time I'm done typing this I'll go ahead and delete it. As far as the estimates go it's my bot sticking them in so I obviously have no problem with them. I have to correct a bug with the auto generated demographic info, so I've been adding the estimates while doing that, note Lansing doesn't use my auto generated content so only the estimate was added. If you don't want it on Lansing that's fine, but I encourage you not to undo it from other cites. They are estimates and are put in the estimate field I think most people know to take it with a grain of salt, and all in all I think almost all of them are probably correct about the general direction of the population in a given place either growing or falling. Also the 2012 estimates come out in May and every place my bot updates now with the 2011 estimates can be automatically updated as soon as they come out, so every time one gets deleted or tampered with just adds more work for me in the future. Jamo2008 (talk) 03:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Didn't read all of that - I'm not sure it's necessary - but the "double edit" I did was an accident. The edit didn't load the first time, so I simply hit back on my browser and forgot exactly was being changed.  It (the second edit) was completely inadverdent.  Okay, just went and read the whole post.  I'd simply advise against using the bot for population estimates until the 2012 estimates, but that's just my advice.  Not a big fan of bots, myself, though, since they reduce flexibility in editing. (Criticalthinker (talk) 03:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC))


 * Waiting till 2012 was the original plan, but I have to go back over all 7700 cities I've updated to 2010 data to fix a bug, so by adding the 2011 estimates now while doing that I can save myself hours of trouble in May when the 2012 estimates come out. Also it should prevent cities from ending up like this Tacoma Washington were people delete the official 2010 population and replace it with the 2011 estimates. I'd estimate about 200 pages out of the 7700 I've updated have had this done to them. Jamo2008 (talk) 03:34, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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German, Alaidon Township
saidly my source on that, Romig's Michigan Place Names, does not provide any futher information to specify where in the township it was.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:50, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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Demographics
I'll split it off into another article: Demographics of Metro Detroit. That way the growth goes into its own page. Maybe it'll encourage similar pages for other metro areas. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * By the way, a similar page would be Demographics of Houston which I worked on. The reason why the data is from the 2000 census is because secondary sources haven't yet released summary documents of 2010 data in the way that the 2004 documents from Wayne State did. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:31, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

RE: Metropolitan Municipality Delhi
The Municipal Corporation of Delhi, does not have an area of 1,397.3 km². Show proof! site-ul? censusindia.gov.in (final) -> The Municipal Corporation of Delhi [NCT OF DELHI (8 districts 1448 km/2 + New Delhi, capital of India 35 km/2) have an area of 1483 km²]; 16787941 Persons (Density of population per sq.km 11320); Growth Rate 2001-2011 = 21.2%; 3435999 Number of Households; Rural = 79574 (Growth Rate 2001-2011= -55.06%)/Urban = 3356425 (Growth Rate 2001-2011= 26.8%); 53.53% (Males)/46.47% (Females); /// -> Office of the Registrar General and Census Commissioner: The city proper Delhi have an area of 431.09 km² (11 million people). The NCT and its urban region have been given the special status of National Capital Region (NCR) under the Constitution of India's 69th amendment act of 1991. A union territory, the political administration of the NCT of Delhi today more closely resembles that of a state of India, with its own legislature, high court and an executive council of ministers headed by a Chief Minister. New Delhi is jointly administered by the federal government of India and the local government of Delhi, and is the capital of the NCT of Delhi. Delhi is India's only city-state.If you want the metropolitan area (1483 km²) then there are 17 million people. If to take into account "special metropolitan" there are many cities Shanghai 6340 km², Istanbul 5343 km/2, Kinshasa 9965 km/2, Pyongyang 3194 km/2 etc. Many Governments are just statistics to the city, but other Governments make the metropolitan area only. This is a list of cities without suburbs (other cities). In many cities, the population is reported to the metropolitan area, because the Governments do not give statistics at city alone. If the city of Delhi has 1483 km², there are many cities in this situation who are not listed in the list. Maybe wrong but I want to prove it with arguments, not opinions.--MIRAIL.MIHAI (talk) 03:04, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thank You: Sears & Frandor
Thank you, that was a thoughtful and polite comment, about my post of Sears on the Frandor page. You did me a great favor. Your kind request that I write to the Wikipedia standards, in both diction, and references, made me find the documentary evidence for my personal knowledge. It has given me considerable joy, and pleasure, to research one of my early childhood "truths" and find that it is indeed true, and verifiable, in the Lansing State Journal.

I now have in my possession a copy of an article, in the Lansing State Journal, Sears Deal Negotiated, issue of November 3, 1953, (page 1) written before construction began on Frandor, detailing the heavy effort Corr spent to put together a deal to get Sears to move out of their old downtown store, and into Frandor. This was not simply a case of convincing Sears to rent in Frandor, he had to buy their old store, and sell them the land in Frandor under their new store, in order to get them to make the move. At the time Corr built Frandor, Sears was part of Frandor, and an anchor store. Corr thought that, the Lansing State Journal thought that, and those of us living in that area at the time thought that.

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I have rewritten it, and referenced it. Nick Beeson (talk) 13:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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What you need to do is when you go to Rosa Parks Transit Center it will redirect you, but at the top of the page, just under the name, it will say "redirected from Rosa Parks Transit Center". Rosa Parks Transit Center will be in blue. Just click on it, and it will take you to the redirect page. At that page you can just click "edit this page" and then edit it, by deleting the redirect and adding text. I actually just did that, but since I didn't have any sources at hand you probably want to add text and sources ASAP.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:07, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, I noticed your post on my page today. Sorry for being late to reply your comment.

Well, I think there is no right answer of how subsets should be listed. I also don't agree with the way how NHS categolises US ethnicities. Like you said, it looks more reasonable to have Non Mexican Hispanic and Mexican Hispanic rather than Hispanic and Mexican. But I put those data because NHS listed so, and I didn't want to judge which ethnic should be and should not be listed since I'm not the authority (and also WP:NOT).

In my humble opinion, there are only 2 options: list up only overall height just like many other countries, or list up all subraces as NHS showed. But above all are only my opinion, you can discuss about it on the talk page. other users may have different opinions. JordanZaxxon (talk) 22:26, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

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83 counties in Michigan not 87
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The arrondissement councils aren't actually elected separately from city council, or from separate wards — for business that's taking place at the arrondissement level rather than citywide, the "borough council" is actually just a separate meeting of the same group of three, four or five people who are that borough's main city councillors. Basically, this works just like Toronto's "community councils" for Etobicoke/York, Toronto/East York, North York and Scarborough: the wards don't elect a city councillor and a separate community councillor, but rather each ward is represented by the same person on both bodies. (Montreal, conversely, does have a much more complicated system in place in which some, but not all, boroughs have additional people who are elected directly to the borough councils in addition to those councils including whoever's representing the borough on the city council — but Quebec City doesn't have that, and let's be honest and admit that Montreal's municipal corruption governance isn't a model that anybody else would want to emulate anyway.)

The quartier councils, on the other hand, are elected separately to "districts" that correspond more closely to individual neighbourhoods rather than borough/city wards; in addition, the borough/city councillors also sit on those bodies as non-voting ex officio members. However, these councils aren't actually legislative bodies per se — they can make recommendations on neighbourhood issues to the higher bodies, but the higher bodies make the actual legislative decisions about whether to accept or reject those recommendations. In reality, although they're named as conseils in French, in English they'd be more accurately described as committees rather than actual governing councils per se. (This is also a model that can be seen in other cities as well, such as Edmonton's "community leagues" and Greater Sudbury's "community action networks" — about the only thing that's surprising about Quebec City's version is that they're elected rather than being volunteers.) These bodies are elected on a two-year basis, rather than the four-year term that applies to the city/borough councils, and they have a gender quota in place that they have to be comprised of equal numbers of men and women.

There's also the "agglomeration council", which deals with issues of region-wide interest that cut across the separate municipalities of Quebec City, L'Ancienne-Lorette and Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures — again, in the same way as Metro Vancouver exists as an entity to manage services that are shared in common by the city of Vancouver proper and New Westminster and Delta and the Coquitlams and Surrey and Richmond and West Van and Maple Ridge and yadda yadda. This body also isn't elected separately, however, but just comprises the mayors of the three municipalities and some (but not all) of their city councillors.

Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 14:53, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The difference is between the agglomeration council and the metropolitan community, if any, isn't addressed on the website itself, so I'll have to do a bit of hunting for other sources to see if I can find something else — but I have a shift at work this afternoon, so I probably won't be able to get to that until later this evening. But in the meantime, I just wanted to answer your parenthetical question about editing six times; the system doesn't actually know how to distinguish a new message from an edit to an existing one, but just reports another new "message" anytime your talk page is edited at all. So this message was "six edits" for the same reason I was notified that I had two new messages from you instead of just one: if I make a followup edit to the same message, to correct a typo or change my wording or add a detail that I forgot to include the first time, that'll get reported in your notification tray as a second or third "new message". So, basically, the answer to that is "machines are dumb". Bearcat (talk) 14:23, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

CPVI
My source for the CPVIs is the new Cook Political Report. Here is a link http://cookpolitical.com/story/10304 Narogers (talk) 11:10, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

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United States Senate election in Michigan, 2018
An IP address reinserted the Google Surveys poll in the United States Senate election in Michigan, 2018 article despite our questions as to its validity. What do you think? Steelbeard1 (talk) 20:37, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * @Steelbeard1, my thoughts have not changed. I think it's a questionable poll.  Perhaps it's not a "fake" one, but one which uses a methodology totally at odds with regular polling.  Because of this, I do not think it should be included. --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:26, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll let someone else remove the questionable poll as I do not want to get into 3RR trouble. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:14, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * @Steelbeard1, I support however your want to go about this. Despite being here for quite some time, I'm still not very well versed on the intricacies of Wikipedia - not even sure what 3RR trouble is, lol - so I'll follow your lead. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:21, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Michigan House of Representatives
Actually, that map was made my friend DrRandomFactor. I just put his map in the article. Message him and he will for sure take comissioned! --Mr.Election (talk) 01:12, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hey bud! DrRandomFactor here. Thank you for the Barnstar! I love how much these maps I make are loved by the community on here! And dont worry, there is plenty more where that came from! I will be doing a few more State House elections maps like this in the near future. I do plan on making some Gubernational Maps as well, so there will be some cool maps to see in the near future! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrRandomFactor (talk • contribs) 18:15, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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You said "I do not see why it would hurt to include this extra information for those unfamiliar with Chinese cities. You may find it redundant; most will not." But I wonder if you are familiar with urban hierarchy in China. I meant, other Chinese city in the list tagged "City" are actually Prefecture-level Cities. They are exactly the same. You may keep those 'redundant' information but it is not a good idea to make these unnecessary and misleading differences. If necessary, please replace all of the "City" (in China) with "Prefecture-level City" instead of reverting to the old version. --H2NCH2COOH (Talk) 12:56, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

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I agree that the QLine article shouldn't imply that DDOT's Detroit Transit Options for Growth Study/Alternatives Analysis was only focused on rail/streetcar transit, but it's also incorrect for it to say "planning for the return of rapid transit began in 2006" since neither the QLine nor the pre-1956 streetcar system was rapid transit, and also Detroit already had rapid transit since 1987 in the form of the Detroit People Mover. Can you think of a better term to use there? Maybe just 'planning for what would become the QLine'? Lexande (talk) 00:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Lexande, how about planning for the return of rail transit/light rail or some such term? If not, I like your other wording.  I was just objecting to the wording because all kinds of things were on the table when this originally started out: expansion of the People Mover, which is rapid transit, BRT, light rail, etc...the study ultimately recommended light rail, and that was what was being worked toward until the governor and mayor at the time killed that plan at which point Dan Gilbert took over the project (via M-1 Rail) and changed it to a streetcar.  I guess the point is that it really wasn't until late into the game that this became a streetcar project. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:04, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

The Goods Line
I didn't see your article on the talk page. I am taking photographs of items on the New South Wales State Heritage Register and happened to take a few of Railway Square road overbridge. I had previously taken some of the Ultimo Road railway underbridge and realised that The Goods Line article could do with a bit of cross-referencing and I also created a category for The Goods Line at Wikimedia Commons and included some relevant existing photographs. I am pleased that you brought up the question of the route as I have asked some of the same questions. Furthermore, there is no signage that I can see, at the beginning of the walkway or at the entry/exit points. I love the walk and am amazed that something so wonderful has been made from the infrastructure at hand. I will add some stuff to the article, but here is my first go at sorting out the route.

The walkway known as The Goods Line may be said to commence at the southern end of Central station, at the beginning of the Devonshire Street Tunnel. The tunnel is a 300-metre-long (980 ft) pedestrian tunnel which opened in 1906, joining Devonshire Street with Lee Street, at street level. From the exit of the tunnel one walks straight ahead towards Lee Street, across Henry Deane Plaza, and descends covered stairs to enter the tunnel extension, which was constructed in the 1970's. The extension tunnel continues under Lee Street, Railway Square, and George Street. At each of these points the extension tunnel can be exited or entered by stairs and escalators. The extension then continues under the TAFE Marcus Clark Building and opens up at street level behind the International Institute of Business and Information Technology at 841 George Street. This is the "official beginning of "The Goods Line," a walkway which continues to Darling Harbour.

To the left of the opening of the extension tunnel, a railway track appears from under a pair of large gates, which block the entrance to a tunnel. This tunnel entrance is the western end of the Railway Square road overbridge.

Relevant articles Wikipedia The Goods Line Devonshire Street Tunnel Railway Square road overbridge Ultimo Road railway underbridge

Wikimedia commons has categories for all of the above. The ones at "category:The Good Line" are particularly relevant. Collywolly (talk) 03:45, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Caollywolly, just so you know, I'm the one who rewrote the Devonshire Street Tunnel article after some pretty extensive researching trying to find out about it. You can always check who edited a page at the "view history" tab at the top of the page.


 * I'd mostly found the answer to most of my questions as you could see on the talk page, but what remained for me were these questions 1. Is the Devonshire Street Tunnel extension accessible by stairs/escalators/elevations from either the Marcus Clark Building and/or the International Institute of Business and Information Technology Building fronting George Street? What I'm sure of is that it's accessible from the Goods Line, Railway Square, and maybe some portals in front off the Marcus Clark Building and IIBT Building, but I'm curious if there are access points within the buildings themselves down to the tunnel? And 2. should it be added in the Goods Line article that it formally includes the entirety of the Devonshire Street tunnels?  Most people think it starts at the end of the Devonshire Street Tunnel extension portal, but Property NSW seems to at least imply that the Goods Line includes the Devonshire Street tunnels.  This seems like this will further be complicated if they ever open up the old Goods Line tunnel, itself. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:44, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

After I made the comment on the talk page of The Goods Line, I added some detail to the article itself, in the first few paragraphs. I think that you will find there the answers to your remaining questions. By the way, do you live in Australia? Why do you have such an interest in The Goods Line? I live in Sydney. Collywolly (talk) 10:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

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Your comment on a Highland Park, Michigan revert: "Do not keep changing all of these metro Detroit suburban pages without discussion on the Talk pages."

My response: I have worked a lot to make sure that all of the Michigan municipality infoboxes are consistent and formatted in the same manner. You haven't seemed to take note of any others in the entire state but reverted my single edit of the Highland Park infobox (and also River Rouge, Michigan, in which I listed the incorporation dates of village and city in a single box rather than a separate line. You stated my edit was the "same thing," but my edit makes infoboxes look simpler and not congested by having multiple "incorporated" lines.  This matter does not need to be discussed in an article's talk page, and you can't tell someone to not make edits.  If you want to revert it again to it's old cumbersome version, go ahead.  There's a lot of municipalities out there, and many of them still seem to be structured in various manners.  Unexplained reverting of these cases is a hindrance.  It would be one thing if I was changing mass sections of an article, plugging in unreliable and poorly written information, or vandalism. —Notorious4life (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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Saudi government
I don't understand your question exactly, and I can't find documents pertaining to the functioning of Saudi government, but from what I understand from reading the Arabic wikis and from the charts I've seen, here's how I think it works: A) Emirates (of Regions/Provinces): Governed by a Provincial Governor; who is assisted by the Deputy Provincial Governor; their HQ are known as emirates. [US equivalent is state] B) Governorates: Governed by a Governor; assisted by Deputy Governor; HQ = amanah/capital governorate [US equivalent is county] C) Centers/Marakiz: Governed by a Head of Center, unassisted; HQ = baladiyah/municipality [US equivalent is city] Simply put, some number of Cs form a B; some number of Bs form an A and 13 As form the Kingdom and nothing is unincorporated.

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Lansing
I have updated the location map for the city of Lansing to include the annexation into Clinton County ( compared to the ) using the information you left on my talk page. I crossed-referenced the annexation boundaries you provided with those of the 2010 census map and Google Maps to try to make the annexation boundaries to scale. If there are any slight errors, let me know and I can make simple modifications to the newly uploaded map.

When I created the original Lansing map, I wasn't sure if the city actually had boundaries extending north into Clinton County, and I could only find mere mentions of it online with no precise information. Fenton is the only other tri-county city, but its boundaries outside of Genesee County are so small that I didn't include them into the Fenton map. I thought Lansing's portion of Clinton County would also be too insignificant. I'm not too familiar with the 425 Agreement or the city of Lansing, but it appears that boundaries included in the agreement count toward area and population statistics, even if it appears that Lansing annexed a southern portion of the Capital Region International Airport. I thought maybe Lansing was just providing municipal services and collecting tax revenue, meaning that Lansing "owned" the portion but didn't include it in their boundaries—similar to how cities sometimes own properties outside of their boundaries (e.g. Ann Arbor owning the Superior Dam). I am sure new boundaries for Lansing and other areas will appear when the 2020 census information is published. —Notorious4life (talk) 21:21, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Notorious4life, the Census Bureau considers 425 Agreements annexation for the purpose of mapping and data, and you can look up on the Census Bureau's website every year the various annexations. Someone changed the infobox, in fact, to reflect the growth in Lansing area. Every non-contiguous "Lansing" boundary you see on maps are 425 Agreement areas. The agreements usually stipulate that the city will provide infrastructure and other services to the land and agree to split half the taxes generated. Many of these surrounding townships usually don't have a robust enough economic development department (some don't have any such department) or the ability to create the infrastructure needed for the projects that generally want to move there, so they essentially partner with the city to make it happen.
 * Lansing is the municipality which has made the most use of this type of agreement in the state. In the case of the Clinton County one, it was done to grow airport business and have say on its eventual expansion. BTW, this one was tailored specifically so that it wouldn't include any residential properties. Anyway, long-story short, this Clinton County land is no different than the non-contiguous areas of Lansing shown in Eaton and suburban Ingham County. It is all included as "Lansing" by the Census Bureau despite not being an actual annexation by Michigan law. --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:36, 23 December 2020 (UTC)


 * It seems like Lansing is gobbling a lot of land for its own benefit, and thank you for the explanation. This map you provided shown here by Dewitt Township seems to indicate well that the parcels of land are no longer within their boundaries.  Having made the previous Lansing map shown in the article, it is very easy to make modifications once the original maps are pieced together and cleaned up.  So, I will continue to make changes as needed to ensure that the Lansing maps shown in its infobox is updated as accurate as possible.  I have uploaded a newer image into the same file space to indicate those boundaries extending into Clinton County.  If there is even the slightest error, let me know. —Notorious4life (talk) 19:44, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Notorious4life, this is perfect. Thanks for making the changes. BTW, 425's act for the benefit of both parties, which is why it's prefered over actual annexation. Without Lansing, DeWitt township could have never provided the economic development tools the city did for this project. Alaiedon Township got an even bigger benefit out of their 425 with Lansing as the Jackson National Life HQ could have never been built out there without Lansing's water infrastructure. So instead of getting zero additional taxes on that empty land, they now get half of what I'm sure is the biggest property tax payer in their entire township. You could argue the rural/suburban townships actually benefit more than the cities. --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:31, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Discussion
I was wondering if you'd be willing to partake in a discussion regarding some boundary maps for Wayne County. Another user, who appears to be newer with a local interest in their home area, has opened a debate with me on the format and design used for some of the cities in Wayne County. I am not saying you need to agree with my thoughts in the recently-started discussion at Talk:Detroit, but the topic might be of interest to you. Thank you. —Notorious4life (talk) 22:06, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Lansing CSA map
Thanks for your note. Since the μSA has been merged into the MSA, the end result is a bigger MSA with no CSA — there's now no way to have a current map of the Lansing-area CSA, since it doesn't exist. Nyttend (talk) 13:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Nyttend, right, I'm asking that you simply color the map to show that the CSA is now the MSA. --Criticalthinker (talk) 19:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No. It would then require a rename, which would be pointless as the map continues to do a good job depicting the now-former CSA.  Nyttend (talk) 19:43, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * This response makes absolutely no sense. I'll see what I can personally do. --Criticalthinker (talk) 12:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Note
Hi Criticalthinker. Saw that you left a note on my talk page. While I have no idea what you are referring to as in my experience, my editing has generally had support and my discussions with other editors have frequently resulted in consensus improvements, I understand that you were frustrated that I reverted your edit. (I removed your note because it misrepresents my edit history but am responding to you here.) No worries; I am not particularly attached to that article or its content and will leave it alone for now, although others may feel more strongly. Hope to run into you again and work with you. RedHotPear (talk) 18:33, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Michigan power stations
Hello, this is responding to your question on my talk page. Fuel statistics in the previous article version were for August 2020 only. New version has full-year stats for 2019, since those average the fuel mix over a yearly cycle and allow for a better comparison with other U.S. states. EIA will publish the 2020 full-year stats by about Oct 2021. The EIA data for Michigan (see first reference in article) does show the overall strong decline in coal and rise in natural gas in recent years. The monthly figures can fluctuate more since one or two large facilities may go offline temporarily for scheduled maintenance. Cheers. Bikesrcool (talk) 16:32, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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Cities with special status
Sorry I don't have link to the constitution or law that elaborate on that. My meager contributions are things I recall from papers on politic issues, with the hope to start to the ball rolling for someone more familiar with topic, due to my recently experience with article (trying to wrap my head around the differences between legal status of Ukrainian Oblasts, Autonomous republic, and Sevastopol) left me wanting. If I stumble over anything useful i'll keep in you mind. --Jakey222 (talk) 09:46, 29 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Naturally, however, your comment implied that you were looking for a primary source that would allow you to discern the working of Ukraine administrative divisions, not just a request for citation. Here is a source for the remark, but I doubt it will help you much with your query. --Jakey222 (talk) 05:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Ansu fair's Nationalit
Ansu is not a dual citizenship holder because he chose to represent Spain so it means he is not a dual citizenship holder. Maxsoa 810 (talk) 10:37, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

@Maxsoa 810, What? I haven't looked at this page in ages, but absolutely nothing has changed in how I view it, and the page is still left written confusingly for some inexplicable reason. Whether he is a dual citizen or not is not really relevant to what I was talking about. He is a Guinean emigrant to Spain. I have no idea why the page jumps around to explaining his father and everything else under the sun instead of just stating that he's a Guinean-born Spaniard. It's strange, because the Spanish-language article speaks of this once, and than no more: "...Ansu Fati, es un futbolista bisauguineano nacionalizado español." The English-language article seems to be intent on building some kind of false controversy. The kid moved with his father from Guinea-Biassau to the Spanish town of Herrera at the age of 6. That's all that needs to be said, quite frankly.--Criticalthinker (talk) 11:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

I agree but here we are trying to know if Ansu should be dual citizenship holder or not Maxsoa 810 (talk) 11:17, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

@Maxsoa 810, nope. Here YOU are trying to figure it out. Again, it's irrelevant. I'm not sure why you are on my talk page with this. I hadn't visited or edited the article or talk page in years.--Criticalthinker (talk) 11:20, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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GM factories
Your recent reversions are disruptive so you removed the Template:General Motors factories recently created from Lansing Delta, Lansing Grand River, and Lansing Service Parts.

So please, if you are disagree with one edition made, take a look to the changes made before reverting. Thanks. Fma12 (talk) 09:24, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I see now that the infobox was embedded in the template, now. BTW, the coordinates are incorrect in the infobox you all added for the Lansing Delta Township Assembly plant. Criticalthinker (talk) 00:01, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I only limited to add the infoboxes without modifying any coordinate. In fact, coordinates were specified before I added the boxes. If those values are incorrect, they should be fixed on Wikidata. Fma12 (talk) 09:06, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Fma12, I'd have no idea how to do that. Coordinates above the infobox are correct. I'm not sure why different coordinates are showing up in the infobox. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I can handle it. Coordinates must be edited on wikidata to show the correct location at the infobox. Fma12 (talk) 17:47, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Eh, I figured out how to do it. Fixed. Criticalthinker (talk) 08:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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Michigan House of Representatives
I see your point, but I do not entirely agree with your revert. In my opinion, stating that the term limit is merely six terms of two years each lacks appropriate context: even though the article is about the Michigan House, the number of terms that a House member may serve is dependent, in part, on the number of terms they have served in the Michigan Senate. We can't just leave that operative piece out. To your point of including the number of terms that may be served (which I agree is useful), I suggest rewording the sentence to Each member is limited to serving at most six terms of two years, but may not serve more than twelve years combined across the Michigan House and Michigan Senate. Would you be willing to accept this compromise?

You also removed the citation I added to Article IV, section 7 of the Michigan Constitution, regarding the qualifications for serving as a House representative. I hope that you will have no objections if I restore that cite? Thanks.

Best, Altamel (talk) 04:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)


 * That change sounds good to me. Criticalthinker (talk) 05:03, 1 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Great, thanks. Altamel (talk) 05:42, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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