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Do I have an administrator watching my page?
Hi, if I do have an administrator watching my page I sure could use some help here. I am beside myself with what is going on and being allowed to continue. Something is seriously wrong and I would like some help getting it resolved without having to use the AN/i board. Other than the two above discussions you can also find more at [], []. There are more but these are the main locations. Thanks in advance, -- Crohnie Gal Talk  14:09, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I think there is a template.  Also, replied on my talk page.  CycloneGU (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * All right, I found .  Plop that at the top of the page and someone should be along. =)  CycloneGU (talk) 14:26, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks but I have a lot of administrators who watchlist my page. I saw your response, thank you for responding.  I just want this all to come to an end which isn't happening.  I do not want this to continue and I really don't want to go to AN/i to have it stopped but I will if it becomes necessary.  For now, I'm taking a break to lie down.  Have a good day, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  14:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure immediate action is required here. The situation up to now has not been good, for sure. I'd recommend deep breaths all around and lets see how it goes from now on. I'll keep an eye on the situation. You can, of course, go to ANI if you feel the need. Franamax (talk) 14:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I appreciate it. I'm about to blank my pages to be honest.  The last thread below has me questioning whether all of this stress is worth it.  But thank you for responding, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  12:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Doc said to let moar of teh WP:TAGTEAM know ;)

 * Sockpuppet investigations/Jack Merridew
 * Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement

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 * "Wikipedia encourages and depends on cooperative editing to improve articles, and most editors who work together are not a tag team. Assume good faith, and keep in mind that in almost all cases it is better to address other editors' reasoning than it is to accuse them of being on a team." How about letting the AC know as well? There's room on that page I'm sure. Doc   talk  07:11, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Almost forgot: sucking up to Casliber on bird and plant articles is so transparent. Is it because he's an administrator and an arb, I wonder? If he was a "littlun" those articles wouldn't be touched by you. Jus' sayin'... Doc   talk  07:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You're clueless; Cas has never been supportive of me, and never will be. 222.124.91.51 (talk) 07:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * So how did you find that little stub? 'Cause he just edited it. You stalk the edits of your opponents; and you stalk the edits of those who you wish to be in your corner, "improving" them for political gain. Convince anyone that you came across that stub randomly and I'll be impressed. Doc   talk  07:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I saw that Cas had created that by clicking contribs on one of the ac pages. It's not stalking. You commenting to every post I make, on whatever IP, is pure harassment, though. Thanks for showing your showing your true colors. I have zero expectation of currying favour with Cas. 222.124.91.51 (talk) 07:55, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * "I have not stalked or harassed anyone. What I have done is opposed a bigot who was disruptive and opposed his enablers, and I've also opposed other disruptive users and their enablers. Where's my defender of the wiki barnstar (nb: wc ran rickk off for whom that barnstar is named)." Even after this you maintain this perverse logic. You should just leave on your own before you are forced to leave. Doc   talk  08:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Jack/Barong or whatever you want to be called these days, leave me out of your petty bullshit. I've have enough.  If your goal is to get me to quit the project than say so. I don't understand your behavior and I don't want to. I just want you to leave me alone and stay out of things that have nothing at all to do with you.  Now FO!  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  12:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

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Update
Do to situation beyond my control I have blanked my user page and will be blanking this one too. If you have something to say now is the time to do it. I am being harrassed and stalked and I don't feel I deserve the kind of treatment I am getting. I would like to thank all of you who have been kind and helpful to me. Thank you, -- Crohnie Gal Talk  13:47, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I didnt have time to read the whole story but I just saw the bold-font "minus diffs" on my watchlist. I dont know if we've ever spoken, but I've seen you around and appreciate all the time you've put into Wikipedia.  I'll definitely miss you, and I hope you decide to come back. Hopefully you can find something less stressful to work on.  —  Soap  —  13:54, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes we have spoken in the past but I honestly don't remember what we spoke about. :) I am tired of being harrassed and stalked by the above editor. No one seems to stop it so the only thing I can think of is leaving.  I woke up to that post and did nothing to encourgage it. If this was about an article that would be easy, remove the article from my watchlist.  This editor is going to my talk page to harrass me or to other talk pages to harrass me about things he's got nothing to do with yet nothing is done to stop it.  What else can I do?  I am definitely open to suggestions here.  Thanks, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  14:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not just take it to AN/I before outright leaving? We'd hate to see a good editor pushed out by someone. =(  CycloneGU (talk) 14:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * ANI is a more effective option than a resignation manifesto, but I suggest taking a break. Wikipedia is not that important.  Use your energy for something more interesting and important for a few days.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:15, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems unlikely that Merridew will be formally banned; even if he is, that won't stop him from creating socks. I think your talk page could be protected for a while like it was when SkagitRiverQueen was vandalizing, but that of course won't stop everything.  —  Soap  —  00:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I have decided not to quit so easily. I appreciate what all of you are saying and I may do as you say to get the harrassing to stop.  Thank you, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  23:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Good morning!
I have beautiful early morning calm, a mist-shrouded moon peaking through the leaves, one of the neighborhood stray cats looking skittish but hopeful, and the sound of the frogs taunting the alligators across the street. The only thing that could make this morning better would be to hear that you are doing well. - 2/0 (cont.) 09:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Well I'm happy you had such a lovely morning. This morning about 5 am we had ducks actually flying on rooftops which looked strange.  We also have a nest of new birds learning to fly which is interesting to watch.  Todays high was 95 degrees which was extremely uncomfortable and unusual this time of year.  As for my health, I'm trying to get well and stay out of the hospital.  I have gone now three times out of the house but I get nervous when I do go out since there are infection flying around like the bronchitis I've been hospitalized for three times, also some kind of stomach bug which with my Crohn's would be hard for me to tell if I had the bug or if my Crohn's was misbehaving.  But that being said I'm doing pretty well and working hard to stay out of the hospital and trying even harder to gain some weight.  My weight is about 90 pounds, maybe 88 pounds since I've been afraid to get on the scale to check it.  I need the weight real bad to help with everything else.  I keep losing the weight and ending up in the hospital.  It's kind of a catch 22 at this point but I am trying to keep a better attitude than I've had the last week or so.  Feel free to email me.  I enjoy your stories of your morning events.  :)  Well time to finish up for the night to get into my  bed to watch a movie to rest and relax.  Thanks for droping in, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  22:59, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * Thank you for letting me know. -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  23:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet investigations/White Cat

 * Hi, I just read some of what is going on and I for one would like to apologize to you. I'm not sure why I feel I need to, but I do since I am a member of this community, also in good standing.  I guess in part I feel embarrassed by all of this.  I hope things get straightened out to your satisfactions.  Oh, yea one more thing, I hope to see you around.  Have a good day, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  19:13, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was feeling wiki lynched and feeling very uncomfortable. You cannot imagine the positive effect a simple two line post under such circumstances. -- Cat chi? 19:18, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know I commented to you at my talk page. ;) -- Crohnie Gal Talk  19:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, actually I do. I hope I did make you feel a little better.  I hate seeing this kind of stuff in the community that I am proud to be a member of, but I am also slowly starting to see too much of this negative stuff I think.  The best advice I can give is for you to ignore it as best you can.  To me it looks like someone is pulling strings via emails or something to all of a sudden get you involved in this mess.  Just answer the questions they ask and ask the questions you need to even if it means going to an administrator via email to ask them.  I am curious as to what triggered the spi report to begin with. I do have my own suspicion but that's all they are, suspicion.  Have a good night, need to go for now.  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  19:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I am not sure what prompted the SPI, time and time again people forget to simply ask me if I am that person or not. Asking me first and then going SPI is still possible. This happened before with arbitration cases where I was the only other involved party whom wasn't worth notifying. :/ I too am curious how things went so wrong. -- Cat chi? 19:44, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, best to try to ignore it until or unless things go seriously too far. It's really a shame though that this has happened and it seems to happen a lot. Glad your ok though and seriously, I hope I see you around though I've been idle a lot myself here at the project. My reasons though have been medical. I can't seem to keep myself from emergency runs to the hospital. Made my 4th visit last weekend. :( I'm feeling better though now but I've got to have oxygen now at home plus other medical stuff to help me keep going.  It's been a very rough year for me.  Now I don't let things unnecessary get to me in RL or here.  I let others take care of it for me who know me.  See I've had two stalkers now since I started this site.  I still wait for that appearance, comment, attack or whatever is going to happen but now I try to laugh it off and ignore.  That's worked pretty well so far.  Take care and I hope we talk soon, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  11:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Random Act of Kindness Barnstar

 * Thank you very much. -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  10:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

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Your revert
Can you explain how this edit was justified on the basis of WP:NPOV? What is not WP:NPOV about my edits? Why did you restore the content about Roger Penrose which has absolutely nothing to do with reincarnation, for example? Did you carefully look at the edit before you reverted? 128.59.169.46 (talk) 16:02, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, I notice you are questioning everyone who reverts you. I checked the edit prior to reverting it.  Please reread what you put in so you can see that it's not in line with NPOV.  I will check things tomorrow if I have time but if you look at my contributions you will see that RL has me busy and I'm not here that much any more.  I will try though to respond to talk page discussions if I have something to add to it.  I hope that's ok with you because at this time this is the best I can offer, sorry.  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  22:27, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you kindly

 * I know you will, you are very welcome. Good luck with your new position.  I was very pleased to support you in this, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  13:32, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You've Got Mail!
Doc  talk  02:12, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks got it. I hope to respond to it today or tomorrow.  :)  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  14:38, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Casey Anthony
Replied. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:30, 28 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you and gave a babbling reply, sorry. ;) -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  22:35, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Replied to the end of our conversation before we were so rudely interrupted yesterday on the talk page. Was listening to trial tapes all day so got behind.  I see "our friend" put in her two cents as usual.  She seems to get warmed-up in the afternoon or early evening when I am definitely winding down.  Wonder what the beverage is?  Anyway. Mugginsx (talk) 01:26, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm done by afternoon myself. I have no energy at all and usually leave my computer by noon, though I do sometimes pop in to try to keep up with things.  I still think editors involved that know this case so well should start the article Casey Anthony in their own space.  At least doing that everyone could see whether an article is useful or not.  The arguments against writing one is to me too off.  Do you, either of you or even lurkeres, know who salted the chances for writing this article?  Ok, I'm too lazy to go into the history to see which administrator decided to salt due to edit warring, which to me is not a good reason to prevent an article.  If editors are edit warring there is a way to take care of that.  Oh and I think it was you a A Quest For Knowledge  who asked was salting was.  That is what administrator do to prevent articles from being made.  Hope you both are well, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  14:36, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Killiondude full-protected the (currently redirecting) page on 17:33 06 Jul, for what looks like a decent reason at the time, things were getting a bit nutty. However the protection was only for 3 days and I see no restrictions there currently. I would advise caution though in creating a standalone article, since at first glance it appears to be about a living person notable only for being related to a "recently-dead" person (what I call the RDP policy). The basic question usually comes down to "if it wasn't for this one single thing, would we be writing about this person at all?" and the BLP sharks will be circling, so it better be a compelling article from the get-go.


 * So it doesn't look like the title has been salted at this time. The term "salting" (WP:SALT refers to, for instance, what the Romans supposedly did to Carthage, plowed salt into the soil so nothing would ever grow in future. Although improper irrigation practice and/or the deforestation and desertification of North Africa 2000 yers ago may have looked like the same thing. I can apply protection settings to an article title that doesn't exist yet (or was deleted), just the same as an existing article, so if you try to make the first edit to that new article, you run into the protection. There also seems to be a neat trick where I can make a page full of redlinks and place WP:CASCADEing protection, so theoretically I could prevent any article from ever being created, or at least [A], [Aa], [Ab], [Aaa], [Aab] until I got tired of typing. :)


 * But the title to which you refer does not appear to be salted. It does seem to be the name of a living person, so yeah, putting it on my watchlist. :) Franamax (talk) 16:53, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Well that is why I am suggesting that it be started in user space and not in main space. I'd start it in mine but to be honest I'm not that good of an editor to do something like this. I can help but starting something like this from scratch, well let's just say I'm not that bold unfortunately.  I guess that's something I need to work on still, being bolder I mean. :) Though this started as a one event type thing there's more going on since the trial like possible book deals and movies for her.  There are already a half a dozen books already released  over the years during her arrest.  There are at least three civil trials to be covered and who knows what else.  I know we have to be careful as do the editors I've been talking to.  If you would like, if an article is started somewhere I'll pop in and let you know so you can keep an eye on things too.  We all think that the title going on the article now is wrong for the article but though it's not been changed we can't get a consensus of what would be the best title for it so we have what we have.  Let me know what you would like.  I have no problem working with you on this and I'm sure the others won't mind either, at least I hope not. ;) Thank you for sharing the info above though, very interesting.  I didn't know that the protection was only for three days either.  Hope you are well Franamax, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  21:15, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * @ Franamax, I forgot to say thank you for cleaning up my talk page. Thank you for doing that.  I didn't notice immediately, I got an email telling me about a troll hitting my page. I very much appreciate you taking care of it for me. -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  21:26, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * So you're bad at starting articles, so what? :) Make a page in your uspace with a bit of text, a bunch of placeholder notes, and every single source you can find. Let some other people know and watch what they do, and keep chipping in yourself. When it seems ready, move it to mainspace. You could start it at the article incubator too. I've always enjoyed that collaborative aspect of WP, where people put things together really fast by divvying up the work. I won't be doing much more than watching. It's summer in BC, I'm a geocacher, and those hills aren't going to climb themselves. :)


 * On the other matter, I replied to your note at my talk page. I had a semi-question for you there. Franamax (talk) 06:36, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * You know that is a good idea about how to start the article. Maybe I'll do that if someone else doesn't start one.  I got up late today and won't be on much longer so it will have to wait for another day.  But thank you for your wonderful idea and help.  Maybe I can become a better editor this way too, well maybe. ;)  As for your second comment, I responded at your talk page.  Thanks a lot Franamax, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  13:28, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  13:07, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, everyone has been working pretty good together. I just try to help keep it that way.  :)  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  13:08, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Helping me with my editing
Hi, Crohnie. I followed you through your contributions, and you seem experienced. Will you help me become a better editor, like familiarizing me with the Wiki-ways? JacobTrue (talk) 15:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure if I can help I'd be happy to do so. Is there something specific you need help with?  I just looked at your contributions and you are doing pretty well by yourself.  Your editing seems to be within policies and guidelines and you seem to be helping the article Death of Caylee Anthony which is good.  Let me know when you need help.  I am only online in the mornings, my time of course, but I noticed you asked others to help you too so that is also good.  Let me know, happy editing and welcome to the site.  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  16:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you a lot! Some things are a bit confusing, like how to format references, but I think I can do that on my own. I've been looking at how different ones look in the Caylee Anthony article. JacobTrue (talk) 16:45, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Formatting references can be pretty tough, especially if you forget a bracket. :) One thing you can do is to put "reflist" at the bottom of the section you are editing and when you Preview the results you can see what the footnotes will look like. You do have to remember to take the template out before you commit the edit - you'll see the first time you forget. :)


 * There is a gadget you can use to help you automatically format references. I try to do everything by hand myself, but there is another editor I harped at to get their references right, and they eventually got excellent at it. You could ask what script he uses or used to use for doing references properly. Say hi from Franamax. :) Franamax (talk) 17:17, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That helps muchly. Thank you, Franamax. I want the automatic thing, lol. JacobTrue (talk) 17:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I have to admit that I'm not great at formatting references either. Sad to say with all my time here but it can be confusing esp. when some articles use different kinds of formats.  Just remember one thing, whatever you do can always be reverted without any harm done.  If that happens, just look and see what was done so that the next time you do it the right way.  That's something I was told long ago from some editors that took me under their wings and it has always worked out.  So don't panic about anything, it will always work out in the end.  :)  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  21:23, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's nice to know that even experienced editors have trouble formatting references. Thank you for the encouragement and good advice. JacobTrue (talk) 23:53, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Well maybe this is a start :)
I am trying to see what I can do with an article called Casey Anthony in my sandbox here. Feel free and welcomed to add whatever you would like to this. I haven't erased the talk page of my sandbox yet but I will soon. I think my time for now has run out for being online. RL is getting ready to call me. :) I hope we can do something useful and wonderful with this. Please remember WP:BLP.  Thank you in advance if you decide to help me out with this.  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  14:12, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

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Please do not leave the article
I know you get discourage. Everyone does. I have more than once swore I would never go back to that article. It is a very difficult article and some difficult editors. Don't worry about the mix up. I got mix up a few times myself. It is very demanding and one day I was angry with another editor and in taking out that crap, I accidentally took out AzureCitizen's references in the Verdict Sentencing section. I felt like such a fool but he was very nice about it and it made me more careful. Think about it a few days and then COME BACK. Be patient on the other article about Casey. It will take time for her to get a life of her own outside of the trial but I really think she will. She likes the spotlight and will not be able to resist it I think. Meanwhile, collect tidbits and you will be ahead of the game. I give it about 6 months before she starts her new public life but maybe sooner. I know sometimes you do not feel well. I have health problems too so take care of yourself, take a few days off if you want then COME BACK. You guys left me all alone today with ..... That was not very nice. I only had my lady leopard to keep me company and give me encouragement! (See, Wiki has affected my mental health!) Mugginsx (talk) 22:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Fixed that sentence but if you do not like it re-do again. My word sentencing is not the best, a terrible admission for a paralegal, retired or not!  Mugginsx (talk) 22:26, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry about leaving you alone. LOL. This was not intentional, I was out with my son today. We had a wonderful time too.  It was my first outing since getting out of the hospital that wasn't grocery shopping.  He's coming again tomorrow so I'll not be here for long.  I don't like sneaky edits.  It makes people look like jerks, like what happened to me.  I will definitely be more careful though.  As for the Casey Anthony article, I am collecting links now about things happening after her release.  I think I need to add the link that I put on the other article to my sandbox about her being called back for parole.  I'm not sure but I think that might fit into the article in one of the section about what happened afterwards.  I'll have to take a look. I'll take a look at the edit you did tomorrow too, I hope.  I think editors are leaving this article, what do you think?  Well I'm done for today, you take care of yourself too, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  22:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Please do not leave.We so sorely need you! xoxoxo  — DocOfSoc • Talk  •  22:31, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh Thank God!  — DocOfSoc • Talk  •  23:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi DocOfSoc, long time! I'm not leaving the site, I was talking about an article.  :)  I'll still be around.  Your stuck with me! :)  Keep in touch. -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  22:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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With all due respect, Crohnie, I think that you really need to stop this already. All this whining and complaining over this matter. It seems you did not look at my answers to you in the dispute page, or anything. Take a careful look at all I wrote in the "dispute" page, and the remarks of Carol (who supports the link) as well as the intelligent and balanced comments of "Nuujinn" and "TransporterMan". Also, Smash had every right to put the Caylee article on the MWWS article, since just google the words "Caylee Anthony" along with "Missing White Woman Syndrome" and see the TONS that come up, from reputable writers, doctors, journalists, psychiatrists, etc. And it doesn't matter that they are basically "opinion" pieces, since as I said a number of times now on the dispute page, this MWWS is a matter of theory and opinion TO BEGIN WITH...by its very nature. So what? Anyway, it's just your opinion that this "Caylee" article uh "does not belong here". That's your circular argument simply (when it comes right down to it) because you personally don't like it. Or meaning that YOU JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE "RELEVANT". But it is kinda demonstrated (despite the desperate denials or the rationalizing of it away) that it sort of is relevant. (Also, when it comes to "See also" wiki links, there does not have to be 100% relation or "reliable source" situations, as long as there is some commentary and relevance and interest, as has been demonstrated by a number of sources.) I don't like this "syndrome". I just know that it HAS been brought up by quite a few in the media and in psychology etc. I don't know if it's honest to simply ignore that. Hashem sfarim (talk) 01:35, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * First I'm sorry for the late response, but I missed your post. I haven't a clue as to what you are talking about.  I didn't say anything that deserves you to scream at me like you are doing. I also gave in and said I agreed to put it in, did you miss that? It's on the talk page.  I got angry with one editor and it wasn't the one you name here so I am changing the title to a more neurtral name.  I am very easy to get along with so please next time just try talking to me instead of yelling at me.  I have nothing else I want to say about this since I haven't been at the article for qutie some time now.  Have a good day, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  15:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

To my talk page lurkers
In the past two days when I go to my watchlist and hover over dif nothing happens. When I hover over history it shows the history of the page but I still can't see any of the difs when I hover over them. What is going on? Help would be appreciated. Thanks, -- Crohnie Gal Talk  13:20, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not know how to answer your question. Too inexperienced.  See my message on talk page please. Mugginsx (talk) 10:49, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, hopefully someone will come by and let me know what to do. I have the feeling it has to do with me using Microsoft as my browser. :(  It's really annoying though and it feels like I'm not supposed to be here anymore.  Anyways I responded at your talk page.  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  13:12, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Maybe Chickenmonkey knows how to bring up another vote and what the chances are. He seems very experienced. What do you think? I cant find where the other vote was. It was on a seperate page - an Rfc page but I don't know how to get to it Mugginsx (talk) 15:18, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * A week ago? I don't remember anything about a vote a week ago.  No one notfied me.  Was it on the talk page for death of caylee anthony? Mugginsx (talk) 15:26, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I already took out something in relation to your concerns. Reason on talk page under BLP issues Sections.


 * It sounds like a problem with WP:POPUPS. You might ask at that talk page.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:03, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Could be your browser Lovey. I stick with Safari and/or Firefox for my Mac. Safari seems to be more stable. BeWell! <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#075;">DocOfSoc</b> • Talk  •  21:41, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you to both of you. I'm going to try Village pump (technical) first.  I have Windows explorers, and don't feel I need to change browsers because one site doesn't work.  It's very frustrating though to have a site behave like this.  :(  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  10:43, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you mean your "popups"? It could be a problem with caching scripts. Make sure you have "Navigation popups" clicked on in your preferences (under Gadgets -> Browsing), then log out of Wikipedia and close any browser windows with Wikipedia on them. Open a new window at google.com or something, then empty your browser cache as shown at WP:BYPASS as "To completely clear the cache" (which you'll have to read in advance, since by now you closed that window :). Go to Wikipedia and log back in, see how it goes. Hope that helps! Franamax (talk) 22:09, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, It didn't work. :(  I'm off to see what Village pump (technical) has to say.  :(  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  10:43, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Well I've gone to WP:Village pump (technical) and so far I've gotten no response from anyone. I went to WP:POPUPS and found someone else is also having the same problems I am but so far the solutions given haven't helped either of us.  I don't know what else to do.  I just remember this happen before and it was caused by an upgrade or software or something.  I hope someone has an answer soon because it's quite frustrating at this point and it's becoming less important for me to come to this site since it doesn't seem like we are taken seriously if the Village pump (technical) doesn't even have the people to answer what is wrong and how to fix it.  Sorry but I'm angry with being ignored like last time that is until a whole lot of editors started having the same problem then it got taken care of.  If you use popup and things aren't working, even if it's only one thing please let me know, thanks, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  15:24, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Server load may be the other issue. I know that when the server is slow, for a few seconds after the text loads, the popups won't appear at all. Then, when they are available, diffs are slow to load. So, if it's hard to get the problem to repeat, it's probably also hard for them to diagnose and fix. —C.Fred (talk) 15:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

(od) To C.Fred: I tried your suggestion too and it didn't work. I waited 5 minutes hovering over diff and another 5 minutes hovering over last, neither worked. Others don't work too. It should be easy to see, but I guess it's not. :( I sure hope someone is looking into this though as I'm not some nut looking for attention.  Thank you to all of you for at least trying to help. :)  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  10:45, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sweet Girl, we know you are not a nut! You are so loved and respected! I wish I could help! All I can do it CARE! Having a tearful day, hugging you accross the miles. There IS an answer.. Somewhere! <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#075;">DocOfSoc</b> • Talk  •  11:12, 12 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Hugs back to you.  Hope things are ok? If you need me you know how to email me.  I am seriouly thinking of retiring or taking a really long break from here.  It's not fun anymore like it used to be.  I came here to have fun and to stimulate brain cells.  It hasn't felt like I'm doing either lately.  :( Anyways, thanks, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  11:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hubby hooked me up now with Firefox, I haven't checked everything yet but going to my watch list now it is working. Hopefully this will now keep me out of trouble.  Thanks to everyone who tried to help me.  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  19:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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 * Well let me know if she starts one on this occasion. I would like to comment if she does because you are right about not biting the newbie.  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  17:38, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
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I am no longer editing on the article but thought you might like to know, if you don't already, the Anthony family will be on Dr. Phil on Tuesday. It's on CBS. Hope you are feeling OK today. Mugginsx (talk) 18:07, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. I'm not really interested though.  The article and it's talk page just totally turned me off esp. the way I was treated by some.  But thanks for thinking of me.  :)  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  12:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * That has happened to many good editors there. I, too, intend to work only on articles I like from now on instead of trying to do someone a favor which eventually caused me a great deal of anguish.  There are many good articles and good editors and administrators, etc.  Feel better. Mugginsx (talk) 11:46, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

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 * Sorry but I haven't been here that often. It gets really old to see the same things going on.  So and so is mad at so and so.  You know that kind of thing.  What happened at the Death of Caylee Anthony is a small example of what I mean.  Being taken to one board after another, you know what I mean for sure.  I don't remember who it was who accused me of having my opinion already decided when I first got there, but that should have been a clue to me to leave the article altogether.  But I brushed off the nasty comment to me and tried to see if I could lurk and put out fires.  Boy did that work out well, NOT!  I now understand why so many of us old timers that have been here for quite sometime have given up.  Sorry, but I need to take a break from here for awhile.  I've done some minor editing but nothing serious.  Maybe I'll be back, but when, I don't know.  I do check in though almost everyday to see if I have any new messages.  Thanks for your kind words. It means a lot.  Feel free to email me if you'd like.  I do answer my emails. :)  You take care of yourself and let me know if you need me for anything.  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  14:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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 * Hi, first let me apologize for not getting back to your email. I was taking a long break from here to get some things done in RL and to refresh my myself to be here.  I was getting too testy and stupid things were getting to me so it was a well needed break.  I am feeling pretty good though I still have a lot to do to strengthen up.  I can't respond to your email because I accidentally deleted them, sorry.  I had flagged them to respond at a later time and I was just cleaning up the folders a bit.    I 'll go see what you are talking about above.  I'm only going to be here occasionally still I think.  I need to get the feeling of accomplishment and fun back to edit here.  Hopefully I will start to have that fun and stimulation I used to get. -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  10:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday. I am still borrowing a computer since mine broke long ago. I have been busy in real life right now so I am still on a break for awhile. Hopefully soon I will have my own computer again and time to rejoin the commmunity. Take care and hope to see you soon. Crohnie Gal Talk  18:04, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


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Hi, it's funny what a difference makes when someone, like me, taking a long break from here. It's like learning some things all over again. :) I've edited one article today that I and others worked real hard to get to good status.  I am going to see how it goes there to see if I want to continue my break until my computer is back up at 100% with everything I need or if I will do minor edits like I did in the past.  I have to admit it's nice talking to some of my friends that I've been unable to talk to becaue my email is down and I can't get to it.  If you emailed me, please let me know here so I know.  My apologies for not being able to respond back.  I do know a couple did email me but I wasn't able to respond.  I will be up and running hopefully soon.  I hope everyone is well and having a good time here.  I wish all the best to everyone,  -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  19:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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