User talk:Cryptonymius

Corporate crime category
Please do not add the Corporate crime category to companies/corporations for which there is not corresponding, verified information in the article. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 01:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Examples: You added the category to the ExxonMobil and to the Shell (corporation) articles. On what basis?  &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 02:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Elaborating &mdash; there is a distinction between criminal violations and civil violations. For example, for the Sudan fine, see the government summary . It was a civil fine, not criminal.  It involved not getting the proper paperwork when bringing in computers; not a criminal offense.  &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 02:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Mea culpa on the "Shell (corporation)" &mdash; I was thinking RDS. (Though shell companies are not illegal, they might be used for Corporate crime.) &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 02:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * See the Corporate crime article. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 02:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The "unethical practices" section of the ExxonMobil article, as it stands today, substantially violates WP:NPOV. For example, the Sudan fine does not indicate context, nor ExxonMobil's side of the issue. (In this case, from what I could find in readily available online sources, it stemmed from not filing the correct paperwork with respect to bringing in computers ?office equipment?). Concerning the inclusion of the former-Mobil official's conviction, the article implies that ExxonMobil is guilty (by putting in under a company unethical practices section) From the references, it seems to be a conviction of an official who took a personal kickback, not a kickback scheme returning money to XOM. Details of the case would likely be more appropriate it its own article, e.g. US vs. J. Bryan Williams. (From a general construction point, there is some redundancy between the paragraph you added and the one above it.) &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 01:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

You added Ovson Egg to your corporate crimes. Please remove this category from the article. Just because there was an indictment, doesn't mean a crime was committed.--Trust101 22:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Scientology and Nazism
Thanks for your kind remark. I was probably out of line in starting the discussion since we are not supposed to be doing things to make points here. Wishing you well. Steve Dufour 19:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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