User talk:Csgir/Archive 2

== A barnstar for you! ==


 * Hello Snj16 (talk), thank you for the barnstar! :) I did come across the Apex Ecotech page yesterday, I guess, and had marked for deletion. See, I agree that it could be a big company and people search about it on Google but these are not the conditions that make the company eligible for the Wikipedia page. For this, the company needs to have independent, unbiased, and authoritative media coverage which the company did not have and thus, it was deleted. Have a great day! Csgir (talk)

November 2018 GOCE drive bling

 * Thank you so much, Reidgreg (talk). Csgir (talk)

December 2018 GOCE newsletter
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:04, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Sam Nabil


A tag has been placed on Sam Nabil, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Biwom (talk) 23:44, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

A modest request
Please read this and give me your suggestion? Harsh Rathod Poke me!  13:42, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Will do. Just saw your message, Harsh Rathod  Poke me! . Csgir (talk)

Moran people
I have reverted your speedy. The article does not appear to be an attack page but rather a legitimate stub on an indigenous Assamese group. —teb728 t c 18:29, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for notifying but page should anyway be moved to draftspace as it is undersourced and doesn't have much of a research/context. Csgir (talk)

Copy edit notes
Here are some notes from the first two of those copy edits you listed on my talk page. Some of this is a little nit-picky, please receive it constructively: Sorry that I didn't get to this until right before the blitz starts. There is a lot of MOS stuff which you'll pick up over time. Very few articles are MOS-perfect, but we expect to have better adherence as the article quality increases. If you haven't seen them already, there are a lot of help files at WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to including some tutorials. The MOS is a pretty good reference if there's anything you're unsure about. Happy copy editing! – Reidgreg (talk) 23:10, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hwangbo – It's unfortunate that this article is virtually unsourced. Biographies of living persons (BLP) policy states that everything should be sourced and so I think you were right removing the material that you did, which might have been harmful or invaded the subject's privacy.  I removed the refimprove tag at the beginning as  basically says the same thing and is a slightly higher priority.  My notes for this basically fall into two groups:  MOS and tone.
 * MOS fixes.
 * If you find a need to change the date formats (or make them consistent) place or  at the top of the article, as appropriate.  Also check for any dates output by templates (e.g.: the birth date and age template in the infobox) to be sure they're consistent.
 * We don't use italics or double quotes for band names, except possibly if discussing the name itself. (e.g.: Chicago originally called themselves the "Chicago Transit Authority" but was ordered to desist by the city's public transit corporation.)  We do use italics for titles of music albums, so for bands that have self-titled albums it could be confusing if we don't maintain the expected style.  Even if the band name is in another language, as a proper noun we wouldn't italicize it.
 * Remember to use em-dashes for numeric ranges instead of hyphens. Hyphens associate things while dashes separate them.  You can make an em-dash with &amp;dash; (MOS:DASH)
 * singer achieved #1 position There are a few characters that we avoid using in articles because (1) they may not have the same meaning from country to country and (2) they have the potential of being interpreted by the Wikimedia software as markup.  These characters include numeros (#), ampersands (&), and slashes (/).  In this case, you should either write out "number" or use the abbreviation No. – on first use, use.
 * We don't use an apostrophe for plurals of uppercase acronyms so: the best DJ's in Europe &rarr; the best DJs in Europe.
 * one of the 5 MCs. When numbers are being compared like that, they should be in the same format.  So either 1 of the 5 or one of the five.
 * Tone – This is mainly about what sounds right in Wikipedia's voice. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia should be stating facts.  When there are things that are opinions, these should have inline attribution (e.g.: "according to X...").  Of course, being unsourced, we can't really tell whose opinion it might be.  What we can do is put in some inline cleanup tags, and if it isn't sourced after a reasonable amount of time another editor can remove the questionable material.
 * she was an apprentice to Lee Sang-min himself Unless the fact is somehow unexpected or confusing, I think we can drop the "himself", which emphasizes the fact without saying why it's important.
 * After all this adulation and popularity Hwangbo was called a "sexy superstar". It should say who called her this, and so I put in an inline tag.
 * The solo debut album consisted of thirteen songs that demonstrated her talent and skill in singing. again here.
 * Translations – It looks like this was translated from Korean to Spanish first, and then Spanish to English. I translated a little Spanish in a table at the end.
 * Wu Sangui
 * the ruler of the "Great Zhou." Watch for punctuation at quotes and references.  Unless the period/full stop is part of the quote, it should be outside the quotation marks (MOS:LQ).
 * his 'imposing' appearance, and 'resourceful' way of thinking. The single quotes here are a little unclear.  Sometimes this can give the wrong impression (MOS:SCAREQUOTES).  It it's meant to be a direct quote, then there should be in-text attribution.  I felt the inline citation was enough and removed them.
 * There was a bit of WP:OVERLINKING, sometimes with the same think linked two or three times in the same paragraph. Generally, terms can be linked on first use in the lead and body, and possibly also in lists and tables (including the infobox).  If the article is long, linking on first use in each section may be okay.
 * Watch that if an article has, say, dmy dates, that it also keeps the day-month format when dates are given without a year.
 * Hi, thanks for the detailed input, . Certainly helps :) Constructively received. Wanted a small help. How does one remove a page redirect? I was editing the page for Parambrata Chatterjee and noticed that many of the names of the movies he ha acted and directed redirects to his own page. For example, Shonar Pahar is one of the movies he directed and it received wide acclaim. I want to create the page for this movie but don't know how to remove the page redirect. Kindly help. Csgir (talk)
 * In this case, the link was piped to an alternate spelling of the subject, which then redirected back to the article. You can tell from the tiny print under the title (redirected from...).  It looks like Shonar Pahar is actually a free location for an article (use the redlink).  I'll get rid of those pipes.  Too many redlinks can make a page look messy, but redlinks are a good invitation for an editor to fill-in a missing subject.
 * If Shonar Pahar were a redirect, what you'd do is type  onto the end of the URL in your browser in order to see the redirect page itself without it redirecting.  There are some other ways, but I think they all involve editing the URL.  Although redirect pages are in the mainspace, they are not considered articles and have their own special rules, so you might want to read up on Redirect before editing them.  It's not terribly complicated but they have their own particular issues. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:48, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

hey Csgir did you read what i wrote.
Glad to know that you are from India, you will surely understand what i meant to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuksanhai (talk • contribs) 12:59, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did read what you wrote on the other user's page but I didn't get which page you were talking about. Kindly share the page link here if you want me to take a look, . Thanks, Csgir (talk)

I am not talking about a single page but i am talking about many pages. the indian schools arcticles in india, they are paid advertisement. i reported one article and it got deleted but there are many such articles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_Public_School_Ghaziabad

just see this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.A.V_Public_School_Sreshtha_Vihar  and think what is notable in this page Nuksanhai (talk) 13:07, 17 December 2018 (UTC) specially its references they are not independent Nuksanhai (talk) 13:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, have you read through these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:College_and_university_article_advice and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Article_guidelines Csgir (talk)

Ways to improve ANSR Consulting
Thanks for creating ANSR Consulting.

A New Page Patroller Rosguill just tagged the page as having some issues to fix, and wrote this note for you:

"Almost all the sources provided are mere-mentions (usually to quote the CEO of the subject) or WP:ROUTINE press about investments and divestments, which do not count toward notability for companies per WP:ORGCRITE. There were a few sources that did provide additional information about the subject's history and operations, so I think it would survive AfD, but it could really use citations to more significant coverage."

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can reply over here and ping me. Or, for broader editing help, you can talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

Delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

signed,Rosguill talk 18:59, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Notability for film articles
Hi there, I've redirected Baaghi 3 (2020 film) to Baaghi 2. It's important that you are aware of WP:NFF, which reads,
 * "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles, as budget issues, scripting issues and casting issues can interfere with a project well ahead of its intended filming date. The assumption should also not be made that because a film is likely to be a high-profile release it will be immune to setbacks—there is no "sure thing" production. Until the start of principal photography, information on the film might be included in articles about its subject material, if available. Sources must be used to confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun.

Since there is no evidence the film has begun filming, the article should not exist. Further, when we create new articles, we use the least complicated common name unless further disambiguation is necessary. Since there are no other articles or films called "Baaghi 3", that would be the correct title for the article. If there were other films, like a 1990 film called Baaghi 3, then we'd have to disambiguate "Baaghi 3 (1990 film)" and "Baaghi 3 (2020 film)". Does that make sense? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:34, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Damn! In my excitement to finally create a film page, I forgot this requirement. Apologies for the inconvenience caused in the additional work. Happy holidays! Csgir (talk)

Wikipedia Asian Month 2018 postcard - info needed!
Hello! Kevin from Wikipedia Asian Month here. Thank you very much for your contributions this year. Because you have created at least 4 eligible articles, you are qualified to receive a special WAM postcard from an Asian community. If you would like one, please fill out this form by January 10. All personal information you submit will only be visible to select organizers in charge of postcards, and will be destroyed once postcards are sent out. If you have any questions, please drop a line on my talk page or ping me. Thank you, and happy holidays! ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 02:07, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi thank you for this. Will be filling out soon. Happy holidays and happy new year :) Csgir (talk)
 * Happy holidays and a great 2019 to you as well! :) ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 06:15, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

December 2018 blitz bling
Thanks for all of your contributions – I know you do a lot of copy editing outside of the drives and blitzes! Happy editing in the new year! – Reidgreg (talk) 18:15, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi thank you for the barnstar :) I am jinxed when it comes to the drives and blitzes - can't seem to get time when these happen! Happy new year Csgir (talk)

Your Teahouse question
Referring to this question, if someone is adding unreferenced information, you are free to delete it. Then the person has to find a source to add it again. Too much information was added without being checked over the years. I've done it. I still do it if I cant think how to source the information.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you for the reply. I almost thought I had asked a wrong question in the Teahouse. Hahaha! Happy holidays to you. Csgir (talk)

QuickHR Revision
Hello Csgir. I just want to let you know that I toned down the article to make it more neutral. Please let me know if I should edit further. Here's the link. Thanks. I also removed the promotional content header. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockmond2572 (talk • contribs) 07:43, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


 * , I see that your page has been moved to Draft. Rightly so because it needs more work. I went ahead and edited the "lead" section (introduction) - have a look. Praises from bloggers aren't notable. Plus, the awards won should go into a section, titled "Award & recognitions". Hope this helps. Csgir (talk) 10:36, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Sunny Jafry
Hi.

Thanks for proposing Sunny Jafry for deletion. I've endorsed the PROD. However, it might have been a better idea to take this through article for deletion because it seems this is likely to be recreated again. An AFD decision is much stronger and the recreation may be eligible for G4 speedy deletion as well as having the title slated. -- Whpq (talk) 13:35, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for supporting the PROD. I am still finding my way around the deletion processes. As in the case of Sunny Jafry page, I noticed that other experienced editors had already deleted the same twice but the page was recreated. A quick Google search made it clear that this was a made-up article of alluded notability, and I added the PROD message. My question / query is - when the situation is clear, as in this case, does AFD still apply? I understand AFD as a process where a discussion / debate needs to happen before reaching a consensus. Am I wrong in this understanding? Accordingly, Sunny Jafry's page didn't require that sort of discussion.

On another note, what would be the best way to re-create articles that were closed under AFD or salted? I do come across such pages that were closed years back, and over the years, they have gained notability. Should one let them be or should one discuss with the closing administrator and apprise them of the changed notability?

Thanks for your time...and wishing you a happy New Year. Csgir (talk) 14:31, 30 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The AFD recommendation is because of the repeated recreation. The fact that this is the third (as far as I know) creation of this article suggests to me that it is likely to be created again after deletion.  AFD establishes a formal consensus on the notability.  An AFD outcome of delete would mean a recreation of this article would be eligible for speedy deletion under WP:G4.  Repeated recreations would also likely get the title salted to stop recreations.


 * As for creating an article on a topic previously deleted, it depends. For a salted title, it would be best to draft an article in your sandbox or in draft space to demonstrate that the topic is now viable and then contact the admin who salted or post at dletion review.  If the title is not salted, then you can boldly create the article. -- Whpq (talk) 15:10, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Syed Sahil Agha (December 31)
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Snowycats (talk) 23:34, 31 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for the update but I had merely cleaned the draft and submitted for approval. Shouldn't the original draft creator be informed as well? Happy new year! Csgir (talk)== AfC notification: User:Csgir/Kanthi Suresh has a new comment ==

 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Csgir/Kanthi Suresh. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 18:27, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kanthi Suresh (January 5)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

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Robert McClenon (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Csgir/Kanthi Suresh


A tag has been placed on User:Csgir/Kanthi Suresh, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Legacypac (talk) 21:05, 6 January 2019 (UTC)