User talk:Csilber1

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Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions, such as your edit to the page Nüshu script, seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising. For more information on this, see: If you still have questions, there is a new contributor's help page, or you can write   below this message along with a question and someone will be along to answer it shortly. You may also find the following pages useful for a general introduction to Wikipedia: I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! Biker Biker (talk) 11:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks. I realize it looks like self promotion, but I'm an expert on the subject, and people will want access to the link I provided to two chapters to (an unfinished, thus unpublished) book, which is already cited and referenced in another link on the page: Lisa See's article, in which she refers readers to my forthcoming book. She also refers readers to it on her website on her novel (which is based in part on my research). I have published on this subject elsewhere, including in the book Engendering China: Women, Culture and the State (Harvard UP, 1994). Please advise. Thanks! Csilber1 (talk) 12:19, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You have multiple possibilities. You can either use your page as reference (Although I doubt that a wordpress blog is reliable), or wait until your book is published. Normally a user will find the book by using a search engine (google). Wikipedia is not a directory. mabdul 13:43, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. But I don't see "multiple possibilities." You suggest listing my work as a reference, but then say a wordpress blog probably wouldn't be considered as reliable. Plus, my chapters were not used as a reference in writing the article, so it wouldn't be true. Wait until the book is published is obviously an option, but not a solution. My work belongs on the nushu page; I am an established expert, with a Ph.D. dissertation on this subject, though I have not been working in the field recently. I did read that there are exceptions made for experts, and that unpublished work can be cited if one has other published work on the subject, which I do--the essay in the book cited above, in addition to pieces in mainstream magazines: Harper's and Ms. Plus interviews in papers like the LA Times and on radio such as BBC. I clearly meet the published standard for the exceptions to the promotion rule. Can you advise? thanks very much.
 * Hi, you'll need to wait for Mabdul, I have let him know for you.-- PoliMaster   talk/spy  16:42, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I just remembered: I also wrote the encyclopedia entry on nüshu for the Encyclopedia of Contemporary Chinese Culture--this is published too. .Csilber1 (talk) 17:08, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify the nature of your help request? I can make some guesses, but I'd prefer to hear exactly what you need.-- SPhilbrick  T  17:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * To be more clearly: Add your blog as a reference ALTHOUGH it is not being considered as a reliable source. "Something bad" is even better than nothing. Later you are able to replace it with the published book. In the case of citing unpublished material, I don't have any experience. Maybe you ask at WP:RSN. They can also say if your blog is considered as reliable source. (maybe citing the unpublished book is able by using WP:OTRS, but I don't know.) mabdul 18:05, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I see that you are listed as one of the contributors to Encyclopedia of contemporary Chinese culture. Is that an appropriate reference?-- SPhilbrick  T  18:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I? No! mabdul 18:23, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No, not you, Cathy. Sorry if that wasn't clear. She said she contributed to it, I was just noting that I've confirmed it. -- SPhilbrick  T  19:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC)