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Mustang article
You recently contributed to the article. If you have an opinion I'd like to hear it on that talk page. thanks.MartinezMD (talk) 14:39, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

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If you spam my page again with such an empty accusatory threat and intentionally avoid leaving a signature, I will have thorough action taken against you. You have no grounds to accuse me of vandalism nor defaming User:Stepho-wrs, in almost leading me to possibly accuse him of unfounded threats of banning me. You and MartinezMD need to study the use of model years to have better comprehension of how they are utilized in regards to real-time dates of production or sales launch. Model years can depict same CY, same MY in the case of the 1994 Mustang introduction in January 1994. The same production year, CY, and MY can apply in the case of the 1998 Toyota Land Cruiser(January 1998 SOP, spring 1998 launch). Most of the time they do not or instead may have "half-model years"(1998.5). You both fail to grasp that for some reason, but it doesn't entail you to leave volatile threats on my page. Do not comment on my very page ever again (if) after responding to this very comment or there will be consequences.--Carmaker1 (talk) 01:24, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * My warning was based on the edit war and heated argument in the talk section. There is no reason for disposing of civility in your quest to clarify the manner in which Wikipedia references the model year of a car. I see no reason to refuse mediation of the subject; after all, who's to say the verdict will not be in your favor? At worst, main years will remain VIN-based, at best, your suggestions will be made default for the US vehicle templates. The boilerplate warning I left is what Wikipedia requests users to use - anything further would have not been in Wikipedia convention. You will see also in the edits that I added a signature after forgetting to sign it the first time around, as it is is clearly stamped 19:05, 29 October 2013 (UTC)," the stamp of my final edit. Cudak888 (talk) 02:14, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Time for a chill pill guys. A look over both of your histories shows that both of want to improve WP and neither is deliberately trying to sabotage it. The problem is due to misunderstanding, not malice. I was instrumental in shaping the automobile conventions for calendar years and model years, so can offer advice on what the conventions say we should do. I also recognise that Cudak may well teach me something along the way (although I already know about model half years and the occasional CY=MY).


 * So far, the only real changes I see that are strictly needed for the Mustang article are for the production and model fields in the infobox. Production dates in the infobox are always in calendar years (preferably with start/end months) and model_years in the infobox are obviously always in US style model years - this allows both Americans and non-Americans to understand what year things happened in. It's a predominantly American vehicle, so section titles and most of the text can stay as model years. If we still have energy, we may (or may not) scatter a few instances of "In 1978, for the 1979 model year, ..." around but that is much lower on the list. Does this sound reasonable?  Stepho  talk 05:09, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear Stepho,


 * It would seem then that the "production" field can be more detailed than the year itself then; it is safe to add the month. However, what should be done in the case of a vehicle where the full introduction date (month/day/year) is known? For instance, this is the code presently reflected on the infobox for the first-gen Ford Mustang:


 * production  = 1964–1973
 * model_years = 1965–1973


 * Given what I mentioned above, would it be within acceptable reason to update the production field as follows (given that reliable sources are available to confirm the day of release and the final month of 1973 Mustang production)?


 * production  = April 17, 1964 – July 1973
 * model_years = 1965–1973


 * There's a further problem in that the April 17th date reflects the date of the Mustang's public introduction rather than the actual start of manufacturing, which is claimed on the first-gen page to be March of 1964 - with no citation to back it up.


 * Let me know what you think, Stepho. Cudak888 (talk) 00:49, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The WP:Automobiles project has endorsed the use of . That template (which has been kept up-to-date with the project's decisions) says that the production field should show the month and year of the start+end of production and that the full date should not be used. So the following is the best usage
 * Technically it should be the start and end of production but if this date is not known then we usually just use the known start/end sales dates instead. The use of sales dates hasn't been formally written down but common sense generally prevails. I would accept either April 1964 (actual start of sales) or March 1964 (estimated start of production) since neither is technically correct and both are close enough to what we really want. But of course that's just a personal opinion, not written law :) For your suggestion of a third field for sales dates, I'd be reluctant to add yet another field because the infobox tends to gather new fields and become barnacle encrusted unless we keep it in check. But you're certainly free to bring it up at template_talk:Infobox automobile or Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles and see what other editors think.  Stepho  talk 06:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Technically it should be the start and end of production but if this date is not known then we usually just use the known start/end sales dates instead. The use of sales dates hasn't been formally written down but common sense generally prevails. I would accept either April 1964 (actual start of sales) or March 1964 (estimated start of production) since neither is technically correct and both are close enough to what we really want. But of course that's just a personal opinion, not written law :) For your suggestion of a third field for sales dates, I'd be reluctant to add yet another field because the infobox tends to gather new fields and become barnacle encrusted unless we keep it in check. But you're certainly free to bring it up at template_talk:Infobox automobile or Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles and see what other editors think.  Stepho  talk 06:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Eleanor Mustang
Hello Cubak888 I am so glad that you a fan. I am not sure if I am doing this right. If I am not please tell me how to contact you.

Please note: I work with Ms Halicki the changes that you made are inaccurate change. I know first hand of the Licensing deals with HPC/Disney for the remake and other Licensing like Classic Recreation (terminated) Greenlight TOYS (Original and Remake Eleanor die cast coming out this year 2014.

And I was involved in all the court lawsuits. I know Shelby lawsuits and the settlement that Halicki owns the Eleanor copyright image and Trademark name, Unique / Sanderson lawsuits and they all settled with Ms Halicki for infringing her Eleanor Rights! Plus the judgement on ED Monfort/Ronaele (Roneale - Eleanor spelled backwords) Lawsuits. Ms Halicki owns all the Eleanor Rights copyright image and Trademark name.

So when I make changes on Eleanor Mustang I am making them accurate - The mecum Action sold an Eleanor Mustang - we don't know its a true Movie Eleanor just because some says so it not always true. In fact we just licensed Eleanor 1:64 1967 Eleanor Mustang for limited edition for Mecum, that will be coming out this year.

Just like Lawsuit with Shelby it wasn't Chip Foose that made and or design Eleanor per the Cinema Vehicle deposition. I understand some people said Foose designed Eleanor in some magazine but in court papers it wasn't so.

So please help me and I will fix the page again... thanks Eleanor60 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eleanor60 (talk • contribs) 21:48, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reply. Ideally, given the encyclopedic nature of Wikipedia, the information about the lawsuit should be, of course, revised to reflect accurate events. However, simplicity is preferable; the exact details and events relating to the case should be noted with reference tags to a website with more information. It is, after all, an encyclopedia; a quick reference where pertinent - though succinct - information to a subject should be found under one heading. Referencing the toy companies and the smallest details about the lawsuit almost obligates one to write an entire page on the case (which may not be a bad idea - you may want to try creating a new Wikipedia page for it.


 * That said, given your background with the case, have you given consideration to developing - in conjunction with Ms. Halicki - an additional page on the Gone in 60 Seconds website; a summary of the case to set the record straight - not only for the purposes of reference, but for concerned fans and enthusiasts who want the true story?


 * That site could be used as reference to any of the references on Wikipedia, thereby allowing for the short summary on Wikipedia and a single irrefutable source for the case information. I would not suggest reaffirming that Ms. Halicki won the lawsuit any more than necessary - overstatement of the truth may bring about the usual doubters. The Ninth Circuit had the sense to settle that for all time and nobody can question that.


 * As for the reference to Foose's design of the car, I'll remove it. It brings up an interesting question though - who was subcontracted for the design? Does any site get the reference correct? My strongest knowledge is of the original film and the two original Eleanors (FYI - the wrecked car that Denise still has holds a very interesting secret), but not the '67. If the original film seems to be shrouded in misinformation, anything relating to the remake is doubly so.


 * Cudak888 (talk) 22:47, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Cudak888 for emailing me back. I did correct the Eleanor Mustang page. we are going to be New Web site wwww.gonein60seconds.com and Maybe as you suggested make a Legal page. Thanks for the help again we just want correct information on Eleanor Page since Halicki owns Eleanor copyright Iamge and Trademark Name. I just knew at this so give me time.
 * Thanks
 * Eleanor60 (talk23:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Did I sign out corretcly?


 * Roger that.


 * Speaking of that site, has there been any thought given to adding merchandise relating to the original film? Honestly, the fan base of the original film may be smaller, but it's a lot stronger knit than the fan base for the remake.


 * Honestly, I wish that Denise would consider producing a sequel to the original in Toby's honor - not by selling the rights to a Hollywood firm, but by producing an independent film, in the same fashion as Toby did his. In-house script, complete creative control, and set in the 1970s. The fact that Sony picked up "Space Station 76" is just one of the hints that a '70s revival may not be too far off - next logical step from the current '60s craze. A script is no problem either - I've already drafted something that could have easily taken place about 3 months following the ending of the first film, and still involve Eleanor (not 614 HSO though, but RMH 100).


 * Your signature came out fine. You can put colons in front of your paragraphs to denote a reply as I've done on mine; add one additional colon per reply.


 * P.S.: Your name isn't Rob, by any chance, is it?


 * Cudak888 (talk) 23:36, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Cuda888, No my name isn't Rob. Who is Rob? What is yours? I have taken all you ideas (please re-read above) and I have responded very kindly to you. As I was hoping you would help me correct the wrong inaccurate info that's been posted. On: Eleanor Mustang. I have notice that some of the inaccurate information being posted Eleanor page are found on other website and that information is inaccurate. And are harmful to the people/films/cars they are writing against and adding more untruths and inaccuracy.


 * Now you added that Steve Sanford designed the Remake Eleanor Kit which is inaccuracy. I just want to post correct information. I just found this today page, so I wrote to you. I am knew. Why are you trying to banned me?


 * Remember, just because another website states in inaccuracy the Steve Sanford design the Remake Eleanor body kit. Doesn't make it correct. Why can you help me?


 * So I am asking for help from Wikipedia to teach me to post the Truth Correct information & photos and how to load up documents so that everyone get the truth and not just inaccurate information from another website that no one monitors. Why can you help me?

thanks. Thank you. Eleanor60 (talk) 11:41, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


 * If Sanford or Foose - the two main names directly referenced by multiple reputable sources   - did not have anything to do with the design of the car, who did? And can you provide verification? That's part of how Wikipedia works, and you haven't fulfilled that.


 * So far, all you have told me are words to the effect of "'Person X' did not design the body kit," but you haven't told me who did, nor have any of your edits said who designed it - but you're willing to wipe the edits of anyone who states otherwise. By Wikipedia standards, the credibility of your information and the manner in which you maintain it is questionable.


 * I have opened the dispute because that is the way Wikipedia handles things when a user believes another user is reverting good edits, adding advertisements (with a clear COI) and non-substantiated information (especially when SHOUTING IN UPPERCAPS which is not ENCYCLOPEDIC) in a copy/pasted manner on relevant and irrelevant pages.


 * The mediators are so we can come to an agreement on this dispute. I am not trying to ban you - especially if you really do have valid, credible information that contradicts the popular sources - but right now, you aren't putting that credible information forward. This dispute puts us both under scrutiny.


 * As for the Rob comment - I thought you were Rob Kardashian.


 * Cudak888 (talk) 19:40, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi cudak888, I am new as I said. If I used upper cap, and I am not allowed too. Thanks for the Info, i won't use it. I will get all the credible and provide verification on all the information in post. I thought i used it here:


 * The popularity of the Remake 2000 Gone in 60 Seconds Movie star car character Eleanor, as a custom 1967 Mustang. A number of car shops started to produce the Copyrighted Character "Eleanor" image & trademark name and Denice Halicki again had to resort to legal action to protect the trademark and the copyrighted Eleanor's image. In 2008, Halicki won a case against Carroll Shelby, who had been selling "Eleanor" using Eleanor's Trademark name and Copyrighted image.


 * I gave References. So why did you pull this paragraph and then file something to banned me?


 * per you text above, If you feel as you said you did about H.B. Halicki and his 1974 Movie and you want the best for Denice Halicki.


 * I am not sure why you are not helping me. Give me the guidelines, how to load up photos and documents to show the truth. Not everything on Wikipedia has a reference and reference on other website are no true and accurate.


 * Hopefully we can move on and post only accurate information. I will put true and correct reference on my post so you can check it out. Thank you. Eleanor60 (talk) 01:10, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


 * That is the same copy-pasted paragraph that you've been putting on every page in sight. It does not contain any references to who designed the car. You have not answered my questions (but have obviously understood my criticisms) and have not provided any further information about the case you claim to know so much about.


 * I don't think we have anything further to discuss unless you can provide new information.


 * Cudak888 (talk) 20:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)



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 * Which warning should be used first then? The warning process page (and everything related to these warnings) are so complicated as to make what should be a simple process utterly obscure. Please explain to me how I come to have a COI in this dispute as well.
 * Cudak888 (talk) 18:09, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Lixxx235, I am new, thanks for the info on Cudak888 issuing warning and on posting to noticeboards. What do I do since Cudak888 is trying to banned me from correctly inaccurate information that is being posted and then posting accurate information on Wikipedia. I have posted a help to Wikipedia. Thanks, any info would help. Eleanor60 (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2014


 * As I said above, I am not trying to ban you. Please read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing#Failure_or_refusal_to_.22get_the_point.22
 * Cudak888 (talk) 19:52, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

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