User talk:CujoLimon

Nomination of Bringing Wreck for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bringing Wreck is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bringing Wreck until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Gaijin42 (talk) 19:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

notability
Thanks for your comment on my talk page, while we I think fundamentally disagree on many things, I appreciate your cordial tone. One thing in particular that I think you are mistaken on is "This band is regionally notable, therefore their album is notable.". This is specifically addressed NOTINHERITED and even more specifically by the music notability criteria NALBUMS "An album requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence. That an album is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article. Conversely, an album does not need to be by a notable artist to require a standalone article if it meets the General notability guideline. Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting." Well in any case, the AFD process is started, so we will see what the consensus decides. Gaijin42 (talk) 19:42, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * One clarification I would like to make - I think the album is not notable. however, you are correct about regional notability (although obviously national or international notability is much more likely to "deserve" an article, regional is sufficient in many cases). Your opinion on that is in line with consensus and policy. However, notability is not inherited, and the album must be shown to have its own notability to have an independant article. There are certainly many articles which do not meet this cretirea. WP:OTHERSTUFF. Gaijin42 (talk) 03:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

afd comment
This is somewhat an aside to our discussion regarding burning wreck. When you commented on the AFD, you appear to have done so twice, once at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Bringing Wreck and another at Articles for deletion/Bringing Wreck  This is a bug I have been trying to track down, do you remember where you found the respective links that you used to get to these two different locations? Gaijin42 (talk) 19:48, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

== Hrm...I'm sorry. I replied from the link that was in the "this article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy" box that appeared on the top of the Bringing Wreck article page. But I also replied to your user talk page, but did so separately. Should I have only chosen one of those? Thanks. --CujoLimon (talk) 19:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Replying to me directly as well as the talk page is fine. What is interesting is that your message appeared on two article talk pages, as well as my personal talk page. I have seen many editors end up with the two talk pages problem, and I am trying to track down how they are doing it. (One of the talk pages is not used/patrolled, so if they comment only there their response is likely lost). Gaijin42 (talk) 20:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)