User talk:CultureEurope

Some comments about your contributions
Hi.

I've noticed you've been editing Wikipedia daily since November 16th.

If you don't mind my asking, is this just a vacation thing, or do you plan on being here to stay? (Please say you'll continue to edit daily).

(Side note: to look at more of a person's contributions on a single page, once you have their contributions on your screen, at the top of the list click on a number of entries to view, like 20, and then in the URL in the address box at the top of your browser, change the 20 to a larger number, like 5000.)

Your work on Italy-related subjects caught my attention.

I especially like your List of Italian polymaths. Unfortunately it is in danger, and steps need to be taken to prevent its deletion.

Note that the List of polymaths was deleted. First it was renamed (I'm guessing), then the article under the new title was deleted. The relevant deletion discussions are:
 * Articles for deletion/List of polymaths
 * Articles for deletion/List of people who have been called "polymaths"
 * Articles for deletion/List of people who have been called a polymath

Eventually a highly scrutinizing (though misdirected) editor will probably come along and nominate your list for deletion, applying arguments similar to those posed in the deletion debates listed above.

If you would like to protect the list from deletion, you have two challenges before you...

The first challenge is to find reliable references that establish that each individual on the list was/is in fact a polymath. This goes beyond mere casual statements of opinion in a news article or popular magazine (like People Magazine). Biographies about those individuals and books on polymathy/polymaths that identify a particular polymath would make good references. Whether or not a person was or was not a polymath (or at least considered to be a polymath) is a matter of historical fact, and books by respected historians and biographers are considered reliable sources. The more historians or biographers who have identified an individual as a polymath, the better.

The second challenge is to be prepared to debate policy in case an AfD is ever started. The strongest argument is that polymaths exist. If they did not, then none could be mentioned in the article polymath. A list of polymaths is just as valid a subject as an article on them, and not having a list of a class of things that has an article is a gap in Wikipedia's coverage. That some of the entries in a list have references that are too subjective or unreliable is not a good argument to delete the whole list.

Subjectivity itself is also not a good argument for deletion, as there are a great many subjective subjects covered on Wikipedia (such as psychoanalysis, dream interpretation, subjectivity, etc.). Wikipedia covers them anyways.

Concerning subjective lists, a case in point is List of topics characterized as pseudoscience, which has been hotly debated over the years, on its talk page, and in deletion discussions:
 * Articles for deletion/List of pseudosciences and pseudoscientific concepts
 * Articles for deletion/List of pseudosciences and pseudoscientific concepts (2nd nomination)
 * Articles for deletion/List of topics characterized as pseudoscience (3rd nomination)

The above deletion discussions cover arguments on subjectivity quite well.

Wow, this letter has grown large. I was going to cover some other subjects here, but now I think I'll break off here an start a new message.

I hope you find the above observations helpful.

Sincerely, The Transhumanist 02:07, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

P.S.: The Wayback Machine has a copy of one of the polymath lists that were deleted:


 * http://web.archive.org/web/20111023204043/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_been_called_%22polymaths%22

Culture of Italy, and a request...
I also like your attention to detail and the improvements you have made to the article Culture of Italy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Culture_of_Italy&diff=586160825&oldid=581093986

Please take a look at Outline of Italy, to see if you can make improvements to this topics list. That section would then provide a bird's eye view of Wikipedia's coverage on Italian culture, which might provide insight on ways to further develop the Culture of Italy article.

Some examples of fairly well-developed culture sections in country outlines include:


 * Outline of Benin
 * Outline of Canada
 * Outline of Colombia
 * Outline of Niger
 * Outline of Tunisia
 * Outline of the United States

Thank you. The Transhumanist 02:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

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Decimal Points In English Wikipedia
Hi. Just to let you know that I have corrected your edit to Culture_of_Italy. In the English language Wikipedia we use a dot to indicate the decimal point. This is in accordance with WP:DECIMAL. Thanks for your help with this (and thank you for the work you are doing improving articles on Italy!). RomanSpa (talk) 23:06, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Lists of Italian Polymaths and Geniuses
Hi again. Just to let you know that I have, with much reluctance, had to support the plan to delete the lists of Italian geniuses and polymaths that you have worked on. I regret having to do this, because I can see that you have done a lot of good work on them, but the problem is that you seem to have used definitions of "polymath" and "genius" that arise simply from the opinions of your sources. I think a lot of the work you've done can be saved, though, by incorporating it into a suitable list called something like "notable Italian thinkers". Such a list is much more useful for our readers, because Wikipedia has a clear definition of notability, so when our readers consult it they know exactly what they're getting. The list of polymaths, on the other hand, relies on a composite of many people's opinions, so is of less value to our readers - most of our readers can form their own opinions, once we give them the facts!

I do appreciate that it's not nice to have people suggest deleting articles you've worked on; I've experienced it. Fortunately, none of what people say in deletion debates is personal. We're all trying, in our own ways, to improve Wikipedia. Good luck, and thank you!

RomanSpa (talk) 23:56, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Don't Go
The Keep/Delete is split evenly and it's doubtful, at this rate, consensus to delete will be achieved. BlueSalix (talk) 01:35, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, Very Well. --CultureEurope (talk) 15:07, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I just saw the decision on was Keep! Let me know if I can ever be of any other assistance. BlueSalix (talk) 00:06, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, of course! --CultureEurope (talk) 09:59, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Italian geniuses for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Italian geniuses is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of Italian geniuses & until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Laun chba  ller  11:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Happy Easter!
Hello and thank you! If you have a moment in the future, could you tell me what these two documents say? They are a letter from a spy who was watching Edmondo Rossoni during a trip he made to Chicago in the 1920s. I found them in the U.S. National Archives but my Italian is not good enough to understand them. --http://postimg.org/image/4p7nz1rzj/ --http://postimg.org/image/qcwm9hsdr/ BlueSalix (talk) 23:05, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Italian polymaths for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Italian polymaths is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of Italian polymaths until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Dweller (talk) 17:09, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Italian geniuses for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Italian geniuses is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of Italian geniuses & until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Dweller (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

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