User talk:Cupola2012

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Hello, Cupola2012, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:11, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
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Havas
Your new article on Havas Worldwide London is just a copy of Euro RSCG London. This type of cut and paste page move is discourage because it breaks the chain of history of the article, which means that prior authors are no longer credited (or blamed) for their contributions to the article. Instead, if the company has changed names, the preferred method is either to move the page using the standard Wikipedia page move process, or to create a redirect from the new title to the old article. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:11, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Dan, Sorry I'm new to this. I've seen you may be deleting the old Euro RSCG London page, will that happen? Our company rebranded on Monday to Havas Worldwide London and I'm simply trying to update our page. If you can help that would be great. Lisa


 * (I'm not WikiDan61, but anyone can respond to a helpme request) The article may be deleted, but there is a discussion (sort of) going on here, and you are welcome to discuss there. The main concern for deletion is that it may not meet our notability requirements. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  14:32, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

...but we've had a page on here for years. I was simply updating our information and changing the name. Why now are we not notable but we have had a site for years. What can I do to increase our notability. Sorry. Confused.


 * Reformatted; please re-activate the same help template unless there are intervening topics. The move discussion will be procedural, but necessary to maintain the editing history. It is not 'your page'; it is a Wikipedia article about your company. Please read Conflict of interest and Notability (organizations and companies); none of the self-published or involved references currently included are counted toward establishing that it has received in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources, needed to justify an article. That will be the focus of the deletion discussion. Dru of Id (talk) 14:56, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

...I've amended the page so it now has credited and objective links that are not self published. Should this help? And apologies for stating it was our page, I understand the objectivity of Wikipedia and used the wrong word. I know it is not a 'profile for us' it's an information source. Thanks.(Cupola2012 (talk) 15:19, 27 September 2012 (UTC))


 * Returning to the scene of the crime, as it were...
 * Lisa (I'll call you that as you have signed some of your posts that way),
 * The first problem that I tried to correct was the cut and paste move of Euro RSCG London to Havas Worldwide London. I think I explained to you why that is a problem already.  Eventually, if the community chooses that the article should live at the new title, a proper page move can be effected.
 * The second problem that I addressed is that there is no indication that this company (either in its old or new incarnation) is notable. The sources available all merely reflect the fact that this is a company that does business.  Not that anyone has generated any significant, independent coverage.  The new "credited and objective" links that you have provided amount to little more than press releases published in various venues.  These do not count as "independent coverage".  Find a trade publication or general news article written about the company (but not as an advertorial for the company), and then find one or two more, and you might be able to make a case.  And to clarify a bit of confusion: you can't "increase" the notability of the company; you can only better demonstrate the existing notability.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:10, 27 September 2012 (UTC)