User talk:Curls82

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Response to your reverted comment on my talk page
See WP:CORP. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 12:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Irving Equipment
Thanks for the message. Please clam down and read the tag carefully - it is not a deletion tag, it merely points out that until references from reliable sources are added, the notability of the subject is in question. References to the company's own website are not considered reliable for Wikipedia purposes, you need third party references for verification. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 18:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * For an article like this media coverage would be ideal (see RS), but it has to be substantive - repetition of company press releases and directory-like pieces don't count. On-line is better as it can be quickly verified, but refs to hard copy only materials are fine too. If you feel up to it, check out the stuff on citation templates at WP:CITE. – ukexpat (talk) 18:45, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * When you think you have provided sufficient references, you can remove the tags, but please leave a note on the article's talk/discussion page explaining what you have done and why. If you feel uncomfortable doing that, you can ask at the Help Desk or ask another editor to look at it for you. – ukexpat (talk) 19:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You're definitely on the right track, but you need to tie the references to what's in the article, and if the references discuss something notable about the company that is not in the article, you should add it. For example, the Cranes Today article about the software -- the development of the software is most definitely notable so it should be in the article itself with a cited reference to the magazine story, rather than buried in the further reading section. If you would like me to take a crack at that so you can see what I mean, let me know. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 13:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You are definitely on the right track, that fills out the article nicely. If you look at this diff you will see that I have toned down some of the language a little - when you see phrases like "is the leading..." or "provides...solutions", it starts to look PR-ish (trust me, I have reviewed enough press releases in my time!) so unless the "leading" stuff can be referenced appropriately, it's best to keep it neutral. If there is any other notable stuff in the other external links (you will see that I moved them and cut a few out per WP:EL), by all means add them to the article text. I know it's daunting getting to grips with Wikipedia policies and guidelines, but you are doing great so far and above all, I commend you for listening to, and taking on board, constructive criticism. If you can expand this some more, it may even be a candidate for a WP:DYK spot on the main page if we can come up with a good hook -- CraneCAD may be something we can work on for that purpose. – ukexpat (talk) 15:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

<--outdent: Sorry, I missed your earlier message. Usually if it's been a few days it's better to start a new topic on a user talk page so that it appears at the bottom and doesn't get missed. It's fine to use the company's website as a reference for factual stuff (up to a point), but I would not use "Irving Equipment says" language - just make the statement as neutrally as possible and support it with a web site reference. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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