User talk:Curps/archive5

Response to you comments on my user page
Curps. I had added a response to your comments on my user page. Bobchalk 13:07, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

User_talk:Bobchalk

Pulkovo Observatory
Hi, Curps! I noticed you wrote a few articles on the Russian astronomers. Just letting you know I've just submitted my article on Pulkovo Observatory. Please, check it out and let me know what you think (and make necessary corrections if you have to, since I'm not a native speaker). Hope to hear from you soon! KNewman 19:34, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)


 * Hi. Sorry for not replying, I was away from Wikipedia for a few months. Thanks for writing the article, it seems fine to me. -- Curps 18:46, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Desertsky
hello Curps, thats me Desertsky; I have noticed that via google its easily possible to enter in wikipedias usertalks without being a member or logged in; at least in some talks, rather funny ?? any comments regards Desertsky

hello Curps, for your information: ref. the list of Minor Planets; three more have gotten names: 11789, 1977 RK KEMPOWSKI 12211, 1981 KJ Arnoschmidt 26074, 1977 TD Carlwirtz

unamed are still 46514 and 73640 You may update the list if you want, any a check could be useful before in order to avoid errors,

thanks and regards Desertsky (Hans-Emil Schuster)

T. Fujii and K. Watanabe
These two asteroid discoverers are listed in Wikipedia as "Tetsuya Fujii" and "Kazuo Watanabe". There is one page, (http://www.geocities.com/mahtezcatpoc/ohno.html) which says the names are "Tomomi Fujii" and "Kimihito Watanabe". This latter page being an astromancer's, it is a dubious source, but I have found no other Web sources to tell one way or the other. What are your sources?

Urhixidur 17:03, 2004 Oct 3 (UTC)

hello Curps, one of my old collegues(still busy in Asteroid research) informs me without reliability as follows: Fujii TETSUYA, co-discoverer of 21 planets 1988-1992 Watanabe KAZURO,co-discoverer of 580 planets 1987-2000, thats all what he has in his files, anyhow Fujii and Watanabe are names NOT that seldom

not very helpful, but maybe atleast a hint for further investigation,

greetings H.-E (Desertsky)

I've obtained corroboration of Tetsuya Fujii and Kazuo Watanabe from Eiji and Naomi , of the Twin Star Guest House and Observatory (http://www.geocities.com/ballandean2003/) in Australia. Their fluency in Japanese and implication with amateur astronomy has proven invaluable in identifying several asteroid discoverers.

Urhixidur 15:06, 2004 Dec 18 (UTC)


 * Hi,


 * I am only now replying to your query, I was away from Wikipedia for several months.


 * For Tetsuya Fujii, there are various Japanese sources, for instance: http://square.millto.net/~geten/products/asteroid.html which mentions that asteroid 4343 Tetsuya is named after him. The writing of his name in Japanese characters is given by various sources including http://www.aerith.net/JANNET/asteroid.per1000/07000.html


 * For Kazuo Watanabe, we can see the Japanese Wikipedia article & or various other online sources.


 * I don't actually speak Japanese but I know katakana and hiragana and through various online searches and also using Google (and the sources mentioned above), you can find out first how the names of the Japanese astronomers are written in Japanese characters and then how the first name might be pronounced (for instance in http://www.din.or.jp/~wa6/namae/ka.html for names beginning with "ka"), and then a final search to confirm it. It does seem to be the case occasionally that two people whose first names are written with the same Japanese characters can sometimes pronounce their first names differently.


 * I have found the geocities "astromancer" guy VERY unreliable. For instance he claims that F. Rigaux (of comet Arend-Rigaux and a couple of asteroids) was "Françoise"! (see http://www.geocities.com/mahtezcatpoc/ward.html).  I finally found it to be Fernand, but don't remember the source.


 * The http://square.millto.net/~geten/products/asteroid.html can be used for Meanings of asteroid names, perhaps I will find time to work on this.


 * -- Curps 01:32, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
I've "started" the Free the Rambot Articles Project which aims to get users to release all of their contributions to the U.S. state, county, and city articles (if any) under the CC-by-sa 1.0 and 2.0 license (at minimum) or into the public domain if they prefer. A secondary, but equally important, goal is to get those users to release ALL of their edits for ALL articles. I've personally chosen to multi-license all of the rambot and Ram-Man contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License so that other projects, such as WikiTravel, can use our articles. I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all your contributions (or at minimum those on the geographic articles) so that we can keep most of the articles available under the multi-license. Many users use the   template (or even    for public domain) on their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I understand, but I thought I'd at least ask, just in case, since the number of your edits is in the top 100. If you do want to do it, simply just copy and paste one of the above two templates into your user page and it will allow us to track those users who have done it. For example:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain (which many people do or don't like to do, see Multi-licensing), you could replace   with    -- Ram-Man 23:18, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

Hans-Emil Schuster
Hello Curps: just seen that somebody has updated the list of minor planets (The WIKI article Hans-Emil Schuster). Presumably done by you; thanks. b.t.w.: if wanted you may add in the article (Hans-Emil Schuster) that also a minor planet is named for me: 2018 Schuster, thanks and kind regards, H.E.S. Desertsky 04:53, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)

just seen your information about Urhixidur having done the latest corrections in "my file". I have written some lines of acknowledgement already to him, all the best for you, H.E.S

hello Curps, just seen your message to me, (21rst DEC) thanks for all your efforts, I assume that you are now more frequently back to WIKI ? and best wishes for the coming days and full success for the next year, H.-E.S.

vandalism spree reversion
Damnit, beat me again. Is it me or are you getting quicker? :-)  --fvw *  00:15, 2004 Dec 21 (UTC)


 * Hi. Can't somebody just ban the IP? -- Curps 00:16, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that would be nice, note the desperate-measures banner I put at the top of S:RC. I wonder if wikipedia strips tags *evil grin*.  --fvw *  00:19, 2004 Dec 21 (UTC)

re: List of Pantheists
Please check page's history before adding "speedy label". Mikkalai 05:12, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Oops, I thought I did. In all other instances I simply rv'd. -- Curps 05:15, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wade-Giles
I create Wade-Giles redirects in case some guy who isn't accustomed into typing pinyin types in Wade-Giles instead. Though I admit Wade-Giles isn't as necessary as pinyin is. WhisperToMe 01:51, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Reversions
Hi Curps. The other contributors who keep reverting my changes are liable to break the same rule. There is a size warning on the page. I am trying to make it more concise. Bobchalk 22:26, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I am talking about 2 people reverting more than 3 times each Bobchalk 22:30, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

rv vandalism
Thanks for reverting my user page. Is it me or are the vandals getting more entertaining? Or perhaps it's just the cumulative egg nog... --fvw *  00:47, 2004 Dec 28 (UTC)


 * Entertaining or tedious... -- Curps 00:50, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Laisser faire
Dear Curps,

you are not God, nor I am.

When I add the fact, that that day shows a full moon condition, this is not vandalism. As I am talking with Brion and Jimbo tomorrow again, I can discuss such things with these nice guys. You should apply a more reluctant approach or in German, if you understand it: "locker lassen" - let things happen, let loose.

I fully agree, that an article is not the correct place for a theory. But for facts. --Wikinaut 01:15, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * There is no need to name drop Jimbo here. Facts are included only if they are relevant.  There is no scientific consensus that the phase of the moon is relevant in causing earthquakes.  Therefore, apart from your "original research" theory, the fact that there was a full moon is no more relevant than the fact that polar bears are white.  True, but irrelevant.  Please read No original research.  This is not "my" policy, it's official Wikipedia policy.  As Jimbo himself will tell you when you have your exclusive private conversation with him tomorrow. -- Curps 01:21, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This is a reference to a recent article in newspaper The Telegraph, Delhi, see paragraph 7 of http://www.telegraphindia.com/1041227/asp/nation/story_4179143.asp --Wikinaut 06:16, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * That sounds like astrology. Do you think that Venus and Mercury have enough gravitational influence to cause earthquakes?  They don't even cause tides. -- Curps 06:26, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Three quakes
Thanks, i actually continued reading it and found out around 2mins before you posted the message on my talk page;). -- Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   03:24, 2004 Dec 28 (UTC)

Blocks
For the record, I almost never read VIP; all of the vandalism I see, I come across in my wishlist, which contains mant of the most-vandalized pages. However, in just the last day or so, I have started glancing at it, and will start going more. I also didn't know he was blanking, since I don't usually watch anon IP vandals like that. Thanks for the heads up. --Golbez 21:48, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)


 * OK, sorry to bother you, but I posted to ViP and half an hour later he still wasn't blocked, so I tried contacting some individual admins. -- Curps 21:50, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Wishlist? Fascinating. But yes, there delay between listing on VIP and blocking is much too long right now. Perhaps the "these users need to be blocked right now" information could be exported somewhere less cumbersome so that admins would be more likely to watch it. --fvw *  21:55, 2004 Dec 28 (UTC)


 * Maybe we should create a Category:User_candidates_for_speedy_blocking and stick it on their user pages. Of course they could blank it, but they can blank the ViP pages right now. -- Curps 21:59, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Nope.
'fraid not. - Ta bu shi da yu 09:54, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * :-) 'fraid not - Ta bu shi da yu 10:09, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It's all fixed now. JeLuF has applied a hotfix apparently. No more problem, no more nasty little GNAA bots. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:19, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Excellent. Good work all around. -- Curps 10:20, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm sure you're quite aware of this ...
But the user who vandalized your user page wasn't Grunt, it's someone exploiting a bug in the way MediaWiki recognizes accounts. He has a nonstandard character in his name, which is causing difficulties. Good luck. - Vague | Rant 09:54, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

Blocking Grunt%AD
Check the (contrib) link in the blocklog. It sends you to Grunt%AD. All you have to do to block him is to enter his username literaly, you have to enter the character at position 0xAD, not %AD, not &shy;, just that character. How to do this depends on your OS.

IRC
Curps - Come on IRC sometime. For emergencies like the fake Grunt situation, it is an invaluable tool :) &rarr;Raul654 10:44, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

IRC
Curps - Come on IRC sometime. For emergencies like the fake Grunt situation, it is an invaluable tool :) &rarr;Raul654 10:44, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)


 * Well, I didn't know about the IRC channel and I'm not an admin. Just tried to make a few suggestions.  I'm constantly impressed by how well Wikipedia is able to react in situations like this.  I think I need to go take a break now. Nice to hear from you again (a familiar name from the P. Satire days).  -- Curps 10:50, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Protection
I protected your page due to abuse by a vandal, seems to have subsided so I'll now unprotect. Contact an admin if situation changes (try IRC). BTW thanks for your help in dealing with the vandalism :) Arminius 10:47, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for protecting it. -- Curps 10:50, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Block
I blocked Bobchalk for 24 hours for violating the 3-revert rule. He then emailed me to note that you had also broken that rule. Upon reviewing your contributions I do see that is the case. Noble as your intentions might be, you have violated procedure. In order to be even-handed in applying the rules unfortunately I must block you for 24 hours as well. Please note that I will see what I can do about getting the Indian Earthquake page protected. It does seem that it is suffering an enormous amount of vandalism due to its prominence. David Newton 10:51, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The basic thing to do when someone is consistently vandalising a page and people are running out of reverts is to go to an administrator and get the page protected from editing. The trouble with an article like the Indian earthquake one is that since it is a current event that has affected so many people it is very difficult to keep it protected without reducing the value of what Wikipedia stands for. We are probably the only encyclopedia with a comprehensive article about that disaster, and the same was true after the bombings in Madrid in March. The same is also true about the Ukranian election controversy at the moment. However, I have to say that I do think the page should have been protected more quickly and more thoroughly than it was. David Newton 19:48, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)