User talk:CurrentWeather

Your submission at Articles for creation: Virtual Fire Drills (August 20)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Theroadislong (talk) 19:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Elijah Joyce


A tag has been placed on Elijah Joyce requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a real person or group of people that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the.  GILO  A& E&uArr;  23:26, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Elijah Joyce, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you.  GILO  A& E&uArr;  23:38, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Elijah Joyce. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. You may contest speedy deletion, but you may not remove a speedy deletion tag from a page that you have created. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:39, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Re:Contested Deletion
"This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (Elijah Joyce owns multiple school records and has been noticed on an official Ohio Swim Website (Metro Buckeye Conference) and has been noticed by another school on their website. Metro Buckeye Conference is also not an institution. The Speedy Deletion is for CSD A7, which states, This applies to any article about a real person, individual animal, commercial or non-commercial organization, web content,[8] or organized event[9] that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, with the exception of educational institutions. In my mind, that basically states the article only has sources from institutions. If that is the case made against the article, then there is no reason for the speedy deletion as Metro Buckeye Conference is not an institution but an official thing of High School Swimming. ) --CurrentWeather (talk) 23:31, 23 August 2020 (UTC)"

Your contested deletion statement actually misses the A7 criteria concerning educational institutions. What that line actually means is that any school (UTEP, NMSU, Oxford, Southampton Institute of Technology, Michal Jackson Elementary School, etc) that is nominated for speedy deletion must be nominated for reasons other than those given for CSD A7. A7, however, applies to those who work with, for, or in schools, including faculty, staff, and students. I wanted to clarify that so that next time you try you'll have a better grasp as to why A7 was used in the deletion of this article. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:Elijah Joyce
Draft:Elijah Joyce, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Elijah Joyce and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Elijah Joyce during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcome!
Hello, CurrentWeather, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
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AfC notification: Draft:Elijah Joyce has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Elijah Joyce. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:55, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

How to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted
It has nothing to do with formatting or phrasing, and not so much content but sources.

If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything that is not you or something you are connected to, here are the steps you should follow:
 * 1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.
 * 2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find. Google Books is a good resource for this.  Also, while search engine results are not sources, they are where you can find sources.  Just remember that they need to be professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources.
 * 3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
 * 4) Summarize those sources left after step 3, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.  Make sure this summary is just bare statement of facts, phrased in a way that even someone who hates the subject can agree with.
 * 5) Combine overlapping summaries where possible (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports), repeating citations as needed.
 * 6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
 * 7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
 * 8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 3 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).

Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion.

If you are writing about yourself, or someone or something you are connected with (such as a friend, family member, or your business), the following steps are different:
 * 0) If the subject really was notable, you wouldn't need to write the article. Remember that articles are owned by the Wikipedia community as a whole, not the article subject or the article author.  If you do not want other people to write about you, then starting an article about yourself is a bad idea.
 * 8a) If the article is accepted, never edit it again. Instead, make edit requests on the article's talk page.
 * 8b) If the article is rejected, there will be a reason given. Read it carefully and closely.  If there are links in the reason, open them and read those pages.

Ian.thomson (talk) 11:23, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Re:Where can I make a complaint to the admins?
You an complain to me directly if you like. As an administrator I am held accountable for my actions to the editing community, and for now that community includes you. If you have something you want or need to bring up with me feel free to do so, just know that you may not get the answers you wanted to get as we work to getting it figured out together. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:27, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Virtual Fire Drills
Hello, CurrentWeather. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Virtual Fire Drills, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Bot0612 (talk) 00:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Elijah Joyce
Hello, CurrentWeather. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Elijah Joyce, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Bot0612 (talk) 12:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Virtual Fire Drills


Hello, CurrentWeather. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Virtual Fire Drills".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! S0091 (talk) 19:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Elijah Joyce


Hello, CurrentWeather. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Elijah Joyce".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)