User talk:Cutepenguin

Shiva Ahmadi
Hi, there. If you're going to completely rewrite a page the best practice is to discuss major changes to the Talk page. It's also important that changes and new text are clearly referenced with verifiable references and that the information on the page is presented in a neutral manner. I wrote the original page and made a point of making sure the page followed established protocol so that it wouldn't get deleted. Please feel free to make changes to the page, but consider making them in incremental steps to allow other users to contribute. Thanks! --Dnllnd (talk) 23:29, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, too. I am happy to collaborate with you, but I am also interested in representing the artist correctly. Just because an article is published doesn't make it accurate, nor the are the quotes ascribed to the artist here representative in any way. The artist is not at all happy with the personal information displayed on this Wiki page, and I agree that it is rather inappropriate. I do not wish to get into some kind of Wiki struggle here, but I do not believe that all of the previous material reflects the work, career or intentions of the artist. There is a lot of silly, unserious stuff written out there in the world of contemporary art, and I do not believe that it is more neutral to cite it just because you can find it online.


 * Fair enough. It is unfortunate that Ahmadi is unhappy with the page, but the information provided reflect what has been shared about her in published profiles which is what editors are limited when it comes to page creation. I'm not sure which sections are silly or unserious, but if you feel that the information has been poorly paraphrased or inaccurately summarized, text edits to the phrasing would be more appropriate than replacing it with unsourced information.


 * Wikipedia is not a promotional platform and the page you created in its place reads like a public relations release. This approach does not align with the Wikipedia editing guidelines noted above or those related to living persons. The version you created would leave the page vulnerable to deletion leaving Ahmadi with no page at all. Absolutely make changes to the page, but make them incrementally so that others can follow the work and make sure that they are supported by reliable and verifiable secondary resources that do not originate from the artist's personal page or that of her management team. All the best. --Dnllnd (talk) 12:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)