User talk:Cwmhiraeth/Archive 20

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DYK for Orange-breasted bunting
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Wow!
Goodness, you are an editor to be emulated! May I one day grow to be worthy to walk in your footsteps. :) --Neopeius (talk) 20:13, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Neopeius. All I did was review Galactic Journey! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/PSLV-C42
Hi Cwmhiraeth,

Thank you for taking the time to promote this nomination. But I hope you know that I had included an image with the hook. So is there any particular reason why you promoted it without the image? MBlaze Lightning 16:38, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Basically, each set of eight hooks goes forward with a single image hook, but among nominations, many more than one in eight has an image. In selecting which images to use, some are essential to the hook and others are peripheral. In this instance, I took a view that one rocket looks much like another to the uninitiated, and I needed a non-biographical hook to slot in between two biographies. I am sorry to disappoint you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Doryteuthis gahi
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Alleged financial stake in Mark P. Lagon
Hi Cwmhiraeth,

Thank you for your feedback on my recent edits to Mark P. Lagon. I would like to clarify that I have absolutely no financial stake in the page. I am a former unpaid intern of Mark's and believe he is notable enough to be listed on Wikipedia. I admit that the article was based on his CV, but do not think my wording was overly-promotional or inappropriate. According to the Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest), "Beliefs and desires may lead to biased editing, but they do not constitute a COI. COI emerges from an editor's roles and relationships, and the tendency to bias that we assume exists when those roles and relationships conflict." I look forward to your thoughts.

R sadoff (talk) 03:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)R Sadoff


 * I have replied on your talkpage. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:32, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Phascolosoma granulatum
– Ianblair23 (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019
I am not sure about this but the GA submissions from MaranoFan and Lee Vilenski, who are in the top three currently does not meet the scoring criteria. Both the users worked through the articles during 2018, before the competition even began. Please let me know if I have made a mistake.  Immortal  Wizard  (chat) 16:18, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ImmortalWizard. The judges check each submission and this sometimes happens, particularly at the beginning of Round 1. In fact I have already disallowed a couple of submissions for this reason, leaving a message on the contestant's talk page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm UnitedStatesian. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Not for Nothing (Kollision album), and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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Follow-up on Mark P. Lagon
Hi Cwmhiraeth,

Thanks for your continued feedback on my edits to Mark P. Lagon. I have now reviewed the Wikipedia page you suggested and removed over 200 words from the article. Please take a moment to review the updated page and consider removing its tag for speedy deletion.

Best, Rachel — Preceding unsigned comment added by R sadoff (talk • contribs) 09:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I can see that you are trying to improve the article but it is such a load of puffery and I really don't want to waste my time on it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Cwmhiraeth, thank you for your edits and for removing the tag for speedy deletion. R sadoff (talk) 21:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)R sadoff

Copyright infringement - more info please
Thank you for highlighting the copyright infringement, though I'd like to ask for more details. The article in question was originally a compilation of a site article and a campus article. I separated them for clarity and am working on it, along with other related articles, for improvement. When I click on the link of the site that was infringed, I do not see the same text. Or at least I do not see what was infringed. The "source text" is older, quoting 24+ thousand students and no mention of the Open Campus. The text I believe is indicated as the infringement, notes 39+ thousand students and the Open Campus. There are other differences. Please help me see the specific infringing text. Thanks WayneBu (talk) 12:42, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I have answered on your talk page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Indian cassava mosaic virus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

2019


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019

begin it with music and memories

Not too late, I hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Diolch. Bach's Christmas Oratorio was playing on the radio the other evening and I tried to identify Part 4, but I couldn't! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Often you hear only parts, such as 1 to 3, - the whole thing takes about three hours, but wasn't intended as such by the composer. He wrote 6 parts for 6 different days. In Leipzig, they still do t that way, but it's otherwise just too expensive to have the orchestra come 6 times. You can tell it's part 4 when you hear horns. 1, 3 and 6 have trumpets, therefore many present 1-3+6, for a great conclusion. We did 1-3 one night, and 4-6 the other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:37, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Diademed amazon
– Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lacuna vincta
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

additions to Leukoma staminea article
Hi Cwmhiraeth,

I saw the note at WP:ERRORS and have expanded the Leukoma staminea article, addressing the concerns about paralytic shellfish poisoning. Given the amount added and that you were the 5x expander, I wondered whether you think my expansion is worth a DYKmake credit?

Thanks,

EdChem (talk) 01:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I do, and will add you to the credits. All this blew up while I was offline. Thank you for a useful addition to the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:06, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Cwmhiraeth. Would you like to collaborate on expanding the article on the butter clam Saxidomus gigantea?  I found some interesting material while expanding the littleneck clam that could be added on the saxitoxin area.  EdChem (talk) 09:02, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, I will do a basic expansion with description, distribution etc. and you can take it from there. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:16, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Rose v Royal College of Physicians
That hook needs tweaking as it sounds like it was the butcher that didn't have the licence, not the apothecary. "that in 1701, the apothecary William Rose was charged with illegally practising physick on a butcher?" Philafrenzy (talk) 18:23, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I think it is alright, but the hook is in Queue 2 now, so if you really want it changed you will have to get an admin to do it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Three Lives, Three Incarnations
Cwmhiraeth, this nomination started out with two articles in a double hook, but they were split into separate hooks, and one of the articles (Three Lives (short story)) and its hook have been approved, while the other is still in limbo. I was wondering whether you might be willing to check out Three Lives and, if it's indeed ready, promote it. You wouldn't close the nomination template, but would post to it noting that the one article had been promoted (and remove its DYKmake), so only the second article remained to be worked on. It would help move things along. Many thanks, whatever you decide to do. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:55, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. I have approved the original joint hook, but someone else will need to promote it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:41, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Leukoma staminea
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:01, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Lottia instabilis at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; if you would like to continue, please link the nomination to the nominations page as described in step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with db-g7, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 11:33, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Squid
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Squid you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 20:01, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Weewarrasaurus
Cwmhiraeth, you reviewed this nomination earlier today, but didn't complete the review—there is no icon. Please insert the appropriate icon at your earliest convenience. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:33, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Further to your comments on the SeeVoov page
Thank you for taking the time to review and comment on the page I posted. I can understand your concern. After having reviewed the company pages for companies within the travel technology sphere, I thought that a company that has been recognized by the United Nations as one of the most prominent startups in the field of travel technology should have a page on Wikipedia. However, I reviewed your comments and re-edited the page. The page is a company information page, not a promotional page, and is cited and referenced as such. I would appreciate your comments on further information of changes needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naamam1108 (talk • contribs) 12:23, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

February hook
Hi, would you mind promoting Template:Did you know nominations/David Johnson (photographer) to an image slot in February for Black History Month? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 13:50, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:22, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 20:46, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Whether I am a paid contributor to Wikipedia?
Hello, Just received a message on my talk page about my edits. Your revelation implies that my edits might have given an impression of an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic. I would wish to clarify that I am an independent contributor to the open source project Wikipedia. However, at the moment I am contributing through the flagship of Open Foundation West Africa. I, therefore, do not have any association or affiliation to any of the articles that I have created and therefore my contribution is not subjective about the content curated. Thanks--Okero Nyagaka (talk) 22:34, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It will be good having more contributions about Africa, but please make sure that what you add is encyclopedic and not promotional in tone. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:21, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Noted. Okero Nyagaka (talk) 23:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sanderia malayensis
Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Uroteuthis noctiluca
Hello! Your submission of Uroteuthis noctiluca at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! HouseOfChange (talk) 01:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Squid
The article Squid you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Squid for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 17:02, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Leiocephalus personatus
Amakuru (talk · contribs) 00:01, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikicup
Looking at the history, it appears you were the editor setting up most of this year's Wikicup participation pages. There are quite a few editors who signed up prior to the deadline (fair disclose: that includes me!) but who don't have submission pages created or an entry in the tracking table. If you don't have time, or there's some other concern, I'm fairly certain I could do all of that for the backlogged editors, but as the page counsels against 'Cup participants doing so themselves, I'd rather not. Thanks! Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:42, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I must admit to forgetting completely to check if there were any late sign-ups over the last few days. I will set up the submission pages now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey, no worries. There's no shortage of things to do in this project! I admit that I just wanted to make sure I have a place to submit points once of my candidates actually finishes its process. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 18:58, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The submissions pages are now set up. I see that it is two weeks since I added the previous entrant. Very remiss of me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:04, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lactoria fornasini
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cnemidocarpa finmarkiensis
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Frog identification
Hi Cwmhiraeth and Samsara, I'm contacting you because you are the 1st contributors of the page frog. I have a picture of a frog from Southeast Asia to identify, but I'm not a specialist (more a photographer than an expert in amphibians). Then I wonder if you know where I can find help on the web (forums for example) or on Wikipedia or Wikimedia, to determine the species I want to upload here. I tried to search on Google but didn't find. Kind regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:01, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I am afraid I really have no idea where you should go, but you could try browsing on AmphibiaWeb. Good luck. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:16, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Great link, good help, thanks ! -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:44, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Help request
Dear Cwmhiraeth, would you please help me and tell me how can I improve Draft:BrainStorm Cell Therapeutics ? Tzahy (talk) 17:28, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, the first thing you need to consider is whether the company should have a Wikipedia entry at all. It needs to meet the requirement that it has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject," This means newspapers, journals, media coverage etc but not press statements put out by the company or advertising features, see this page. If you can find such coverage, then I suggest you star afresh and describe the company, when it was founded and by whom, and mention the areas in which it is doing research, but not the minutiae of clinical trials and, don't make it read like an advertisement. If you can't find such coverage, then write an article about something or someone else that is notable. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:14, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Dear Cwmhiraeth, thank you for dedicating the time to answer me so thoroughly, I will improve the entry. Tzahy (talk) 18:21, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Dear Cwmhiraeth, I have now made some revisions based on your comments and think the article is better now. Maybe have a look and give me your opinion, Thank you so much. Tzahy (talk) 15:57, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know, I haven't enough experience in this kind of article. Which citations are you relying on to demonstrate notability? Also, I have great difficulty in reconciling the fact that you are spending so much time and effort on this article with the statement you made about not having a conflict of interest with regard to your English Wikipedia articles. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:49, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have been a wikipedia editor for many years, and I am known in the community for being serious and spending a lot of time to get things right. It is interesting that someone should see this as a negative thing... But I can assure you the reason for my interest is that I want people suffering from these terrible diseases to know about treatment that could help them. Tzahy (talk) 19:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Good. But don't get too excited about it because a very small proportion of drugs and treatments entering phase 2 trials are ultimately commercially successful. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:50, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Categorization
Hi. Just wanted to let you know that I made this edit to one of your talk page archives to remove a category that the page (probably) wasn't meant to be in. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:54, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Nucella lamellosa
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Geoff Harvey
Hi, I noticed you promoted the original hook, although I asked for something different and approved ALT2. Did you think ALT0 was a better hook? Yoninah (talk) 11:16, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I promoted the wrong hook in error and have replaced it in Prep 1 with the approved hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:28, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Yoninah (talk) 12:29, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sepioteuthis australis
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Nice work on the squid ... today the BBC featured a news item complete with squid and octopus jokes. Odd story, excellent humour. At least to those of us easily amused by squiddities. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:31, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK disappeared from pending
Hi Cwmhiraeth, I did a QPQ last night on Template:Did you know nominations/Barry Barry (Waterloo Road). Today, when I looked for it, it no longer appeared in the list of pending nominations. Can you check on it? I hope I didn't screw something up when I was editing it. I can find it, but it doesn't seem to be in any queues I can locate. Thanks! Dawn dawnleelynn(talk) 04:14, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * After you gave it a tick it was moved by a bot to the Approved page where it is now available to a promoter to move on into a preparation area and the queue. So it hasn't disappeared, its just moving through the system. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:03, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking. Not used to it moving so fast I guess. I've been under the weather all week. Not myself. Glad it's on its way. Hope all is well with you... :) dawnleelynn(talk) 06:11, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ochetostoma erythrogrammon
Hello! Your submission of Ochetostoma erythrogrammon at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Nick Moyes (talk) 16:46, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cypress canker
– Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cinara cupressi
– Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

FYI
Template:Did you know nominations/John L. Whitehead Jr. has been approved and needs to be posted sometime during February, Black History Month. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:50, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 11:28, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Padina pavonica
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Pawsonia saxicola
Cwmhiraeth, I've just restored this nomination of yours to the Nominations page; when it was pulled from prep it apparently wasn't restored at that time.

Once you've addressed the issues raised, please be sure to add the "review again" icon, so it can be looked at and gotten back on the path to promotion. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:34, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikicup DYK
I'm not sure if I added my two DYKs to WikiCup/History/2019/Submissions/SL93 correctly because they are not appearing under WikiCup/History/2019/log. SL93 (talk) 02:51, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * They are now. The bot makes a pass every four hours (I think) so your score has been updated now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:04, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for all the Black History Month promotions! Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * But I have just rejected the Oranges & Lemons (album) hook, earmarked for February 27. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:51, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I meant mine, anyway :) Yoninah (talk) 18:56, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Padina boergesenii
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Another promotion
Hi, I'm trying to clear out the oldest approved noms. Could you promote this one, for which I wrote the hook? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 16:44, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 20:26, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Saxidomus gigantea
Hello! Your submission of Saxidomus gigantea at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 13:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Squid
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Laminaria sinclairii
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Black History Month hooks
Hi, please keep in mind that we need to finish promoting the Black History Month hooks in February. (I worked on both of them so I'm out.) Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:12, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Orchesella cincta
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pawsonia saxicola
Vanamonde (Talk) 12:02, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Pugettia gracilis
Hey, can you address my concerns at Template:Did you know nominations/Pugettia gracilis? Thanks,VR talk 15:45, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

William Finlay GA Review
I'm the GA nominator for William Finlay, 2nd Viscount Finlay and I wanted to let you know I've made the changes you indicated, with a few caveats which I've explained on the Review page. Looking forward to hear more from you! Atchom (talk) 18:47, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Serpula columbiana
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Nucella canaliculata
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Semibalanus cariosus
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sipuncula
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sipuncula you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 16:20, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Saxidomus gigantea
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Prep 2
Hi, thanks for promoting my Bracha Zefira hook to Prep 2. I'm a little disappointed, though, that the image wasn't used. She looks very exotic in the image, which perfectly matches the hook. Would it be possible to promote it to an image slot at a later date? Yoninah (talk) 12:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I can do so, but we are going to have a plethora of women in the image slot in March aren't we? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:14, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, and we also have a lot of special occasion requests in early March. I really don't mind holding this till April if necessary. On the other hand, as we're running 2 sets per day, we'll get through the few women images pretty quickly. Yoninah (talk) 12:21, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll move it tomorrow. We will have 62 sets in March, if we continue with two sets a day, and we should be able to accommodate all the Women's History Month nominations. I think we should not exceed one woman in the image slow every 5 sets, and even then, not because they are photogenic, but because they add value to the hook. What do you think? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:39, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * That should be every third day, right? Sounds good. But I also think it's important to run one woman hook in every set, as long as we have enough of a supply. Yoninah (talk) 13:46, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, sure. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for moving Bracha Zefira! I moved a bunch of women hooks into the special occasion holding area for easy access. Yoninah (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * So, how does one qualify for the Women's History Month? I have just promoted Viktoria Orsi Toth from the special holding area. Isn't she a bit youthful to be called history? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, I view it as the "history of women". If a woman made a significant contribution, she's included, even if she did it a year ago. I can't say Orsi Toth has made a significant contribution to the history of women, but since she is a woman, I'm sure others would lobby to include her. Yoninah (talk) 13:55, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

PSLV-c45 GA nomination removal
@sudhakarbira ,let me know the reasons for the removal of the said article from the nomination,thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudhakarbira (talk • contribs) 01:40, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The article PSLV-C45 has not been either nominated or approved as a GA as far as I can see, and is therefore ineligible to score points in the WikiCup. See this page for how to nominate an article to be a GA. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:26, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@sudhakar, Thankyou verymuch !! , being novice I couldn't understand the requirements.

DYK for Urechis caupo
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I really liked this hook! Yoninah (talk) 13:57, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 February 2019
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DYK for Wildlife of Kuwait
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Teratoscincus scincus
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Copyvio on Hammer article
Could you ask me how is the article I wrote is a copyright violation, the tool you used. The biggest "suspect" is simply a dictionary website. The match that contain it is the description from the previous Hammer automobile article before it was deleted due to a lack of sources which I have amended and also restore texts from the deleted article. The AfD page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hammer_(1900_automobile) --Vauxford (talk) 12:32, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I did wonder about that, but the page you appeared to have copied had a © symbol at the foot. So, I am sorry, and have removed my request for rev del. If you are copying text from elsewhere in Wikipedia, or text from a previously deleted article, you should provide attribution in the edit summary. I once had a much longer article speedily deleted because I had rewritten an article with copyvios that had been deleted, but had failed to provide attribution to the original author for the parts I had retained. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:37, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Good point, but the text that was on the previous deleted article, wasn't copyrighted and was referenced from a single book about Australian cars, this new one now got two sources, new info and a picture. --Vauxford (talk) 13:44, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, but to a new page patroller, it just appeared to be a new article. You will know to provide attribution if you are doing something similar in future. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The attribution required is to the Wikipedia authors who have worked on the previous version, see this page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC).


 * I don't exactly understand this whole attribution thing. I seen it mentioned a lot but I don't really know what they mean by it? --Vauxford (talk) 14:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't understand it very well myself, but if you look at my edit summaries in Wildlife of Sweden, you will see how it can be quite simply done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:12, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Great Migration: Journey to the North
Hello! Your submission of The Great Migration: Journey to the North at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:51, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Uroteuthis noctiluca
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sipuncula
The article Sipuncula you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sipuncula for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 13:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 March newsletter
And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2. With 56 contestants qualifying, each group in Round 2 contains seven contestants, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for Round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining contestants.

Our top scorers in Round 1 were:


 * 🇺🇸 L293D, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with ten good articles on submarines for a total of 357 points.
 * Pirate_Flag_of_Henry_Every.svg, a WikiCup veteran, came next with 274 points, mostly from eight featured pictures, restorations of artwork.
 * 🇩🇰 MPJ-DK, a wrestling enthusiast, was in third place with 263 points, garnered from a featured list, five good articles, two DYKs and four GARs.
 * 🇺🇸 Usernameunique came next at 243, with a featured article and a good article, both on ancient helmets.
 * Flag of the United States Library of Congress 2.svg Squeamish Ossifrage was in joint fifth place with 224 points, mostly garnered from bringing the 1937 Fox vault fire to featured article status.
 * Ed! was also on 224, with an amazing number of good article reviews (56 actually).

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews on 143 good articles, one hundred more than the number of good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Well done all!

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk).

DYK for Idas simpsoni
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Francis Willughby
Perhaps in a moment of weakness, you said on the project talk page that you might have a look at this. It's at FAC now. Obviously no obligation, but I thought I'd let you know Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:42, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Aspidosiphon elegans
Amakuru (talk · contribs) 12:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Path loss
An article that you have been involved in editing&mdash;Path loss&mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Pierre cb (talk) 14:11, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cryptolepas rhachianecti
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Insect decline
Thanks for bringing up the insect decline article as I wasn't aware of it. I'm not sure how much you had been following at Talk:Insect, but what are you thinking the best course of action is right now? Considering the previous edit warring I've dealt with in the topic, we could see where the current discussion goes, but I kind of expect it to become a wall of text regardless of consensus and a redirect immediately reverted. Would it be better to put in a formal request for redirect/deletion, or just wait and see for now? Kingofaces43 (talk) 23:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I had not seen discussion on the Insect talk page. I came across the article as a result of seeing a nominated hook which had been approved at DYK "... that insect populations have declined by about 75% in the last 25 years?". That was the extrapolation of one study into "insect populations" and I objected. However, I don't like getting mired in controversy and do not want to take the matter further. I think measuring insects by biomass is very unsatisfactory. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't blame you for wanting to avoid controversy (an unfortunate catch-22 that's left few editors who will try to tackle this subject and atmosphere). Glad to see people catching these things at DYK at least. Kingofaces43 (talk) 00:00, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * From reading the 2019 paper summarising the research I think I can agree that there has been some diminution in insect numbers. This is not really surprising if you think about human interventions like increasing land under cultivation and increased use of pesticides. We visited some folk in Austria who were feeding their honey bees sugar solution in mid-summer because of the lack of flowers, there being no field verges or hay crops (only silage). What I dislike is the over-dramatisation of the findings, in the media and in our article. If there is no adverse reaction to the paragraph I have added to the article today, I plan to rewrite the opening paragraph. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the study methodology and claims have been heavily criticized, so we can't be using the study carte blanche as already discussed at other pages and needed to be properly integrated with the criticism rather than a separate section. The real-world problem is that scientists are concerned about specific declines, potential, or lack of data as you got to in your edit that are better reflectd in the ESA statement, but all those things were already previously addressed in the third paragraph here. We're kind of reinventing the wheel by letting old long arguments be rehashed at a POV fork to get around that, so the simpler solution seems to be to stick with what has already been agreed upon. Are you finding problems with that version I linked that would require not using that at the current article? Kingofaces43 (talk) 14:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with the third paragraph you linked. But this article is probably going to be signed off at DYK sooner or later and it needs to be more balanced before that happens. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:27, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. At the least, I'm not sure what kind of hook is going to be proposed, but there's a lot in that the article that would get into some due weight problems as a hook. I'm not sure how DYK handles POV fork problems either as that's kind of out of my wheelhouse. I'm not sure how much you've followed the talk page, but the content didn't gain consensus elsewhere before being forked, and still currently fails WP:ONUS, so I'm not really sure what DYK could really do at this time honestly. An odd situation at the least. Kingofaces43 (talk) 00:02, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Adipicola pelagica
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, I am honoured. I find it interesting creating such "wildlife" articles and the Iberian Peninsula is nicely isolated from the rest of Europe, from the point of view of the flora and fauna. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Echiura
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Echiura you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of SkyGazer 512 -- SkyGazer 512 (talk) 16:00, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lottia instabilis
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Saccharina dentigera
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Trois Chansons
Last night, I struck the first hook as too bland, but was too tired - obviously - to hit the button. Can we please use the ALT, with the "only" a cappella, and the war? The latter is a almost The topic of the article. Or at least one of those two things? - Many days I look, the DYK section is too short for balance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, I have changed the hook. The guideline says that each prep set should include not more than four biographies. About three quarters of approved hooks are currently for biographies, so if you wanted to focus for a while on churches, opera houses, music or other aspects of your topic, it could be useful for creating balance. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the change. I can switch to other than bio in April, but have already all these singers on my to-do-list (user page), interrupted by men who die. I have music on Sundays ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Couldn't you persuade the men that die to hang on a bit longer? ;) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I wish I could. Now Loussier. Sad job. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Violin Concerto
André Previn died. Wikipedia paid tribute by a pictured blurb ITN. The next day it was pulled because recordings were not referenced. (A shame if you ask me, - to let formality win over us showing a great person, in whom 100k+ were interested before he was in our news.) When I looked at his article, I saw that coming, and wrote about his violin concerto, as a little tribute. The short hook would be fine with the image showing a VERY familiar face, and anyway showing two women in March. The hook is almost meaningless without, for people who don't already know him, because it doesn't hint at the fact that "his future wife" is the possibly best-known classial violinist. Minimum: add her name, "to Anne-Sophie Mutter, his future wife". Or: show the full name of the concerto, which includes her name, "his Violin Concerto "Anne-Sophie"". Better: just show the image. At least something: use the ALT. Please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Jankaea
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for Pacific home front DYK
The only problem is that beacuse of you I am now addicted. Caesar's planned invasion of the Parthian Empire, Template:Did you know (Elizabeth Webber Harris). (Dushan Jugum (talk) 19:52, 8 March 2019 (UTC)).
 * I am glad to hear you are addicted, I am addicted too! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:12, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Coronula diadema
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Anasterias antarctica
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pacific Islands home front during World War II
Vanamonde (Talk) 00:02, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ochetostoma erythrogrammon
Vanamonde (Talk) 00:03, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Echiura
The article Echiura you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Echiura for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of SkyGazer 512 -- SkyGazer 512 (talk) 14:21, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Aspidosiphon muelleri
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Heterocyathus aequicostatus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Norway
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Stigmatoteuthis arcturi
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Granton Shrimp Bed
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lottia asmi
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Suggestions
How do you think I should improve the article. I am open to any suggestions or information. Anjana T S (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anjana T S (talk • contribs) 14:57, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, I am not sure what article you are referring to. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:24, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Military ranks in ancient Mesopotamia
Dear, almost all you've written about this article is true. How many time I've to finish it properly? Heartly, R — Preceding unsigned comment added by Champollion (talk • contribs) 22:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17


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 * News
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Template:Did you know nominations/The Big Elk
Wait: why did you revert your promotion of this nomination? You never explained why either in the page or in an edit summary. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Basically, because when I tried to archive it I found the template was mucked up and I was unable to fix it. But also because I had promoted the original hook, which I liked better, and realised that I had promoted the wrong hook, and I didn't like the fact that the bolded words were right at the end of the new hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:01, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I see. Would you be willing to re-promote this then, or will you leave it to another editor? I kind of rejected the original hook to be honest, as although I personally liked it, it didn't give justice to the "rivalry" mentioned in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can promote it again, and if it still fails to archive, I can ask for help on the disussion page. Would you be happy with


 * ... that as The Big Elk is now the world's largest statue of a moose, it has been proposed that Mac the Moose be given stilletos so as to reclaim its previous record? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:28, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess so. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:29, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Themiste cymodoceae
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 15:52, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Rhycherus filamentosus
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pugettia gracilis
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Billy Jamieson DYK
Hi Cwmhiraeth. Just in case the ping from the template did not work, I added the picture of the mummy of Ramses I and pinged you from the template, so that ALT0 could be used with the picture. Thank you. Dr.  K.  04:58, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Echiurus echiurus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Talkback
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:34, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Vibease Review question
Hello! I saw that you reviewed one of my pages recently, and wanted to ask about an issue that has been nagging me recently. A page I wrote a week or two ago, Vibease, may not have been added to the New Pages feed for patrol, and I am concerned that my method of moving articles directly from my Sandbox is somehow bypassing this system. Can you check on this page and see if it is awaiting review, and if not, can you fix this issue? Thank you so much! DrumSalad (talk) 21:48, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * There is a backlog of articles waiting to be reviewed in the region of 3000, but all will get reviewed in the end. I have reviewed your article now. Can I suggest you make a newly named sandbox for each article you write, because clicking on the history tab of Vibease shows an edit history including another article, Paul Outlaw. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:57, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for The Great Migration: Journey to the North
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Sweden
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Laxmann's shrew
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Amphiodia urtica
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ussuri shrew
Hello! Your submission of Ussuri shrew at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 18:10, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Carcinonemertes errans
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Celebration of the Greek Revolution
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Themiste hennahi
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Yoga for women
Hi, you've probably been wondering where I've been... doing Modern yoga and Asana, mainly, the latter now with a GA. I've just created Yoga for women and it struck me that this would probably be worth having a go at for DYK. Would you mind giving me a hand through that process? Glad to see you're hard at work on the marine invertebrates! All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Would you like me to nominate it for you? If so, have you any particular ideas for a hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:55, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That would be lovely. How about "Yoga practitioners are predominantly female, young, affluent, fit, and white"? (Select as many adjectives as you please!) Or we could talk about Indra Devi and her Hollywood stars. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:04, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, I am currently in the controversial Nubra River. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:14, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ikeda taenioides
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

1986 Togolese coup d'état attempt
If you have any ideas/suggestions about possible rewording of 1986 Togolese coup d'état attempt, feel free to implement them. Cheers! --Sundostund (talk) 14:22, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * If you look at this comparison, produced by the Earwig copyvio tool, and scroll down you will see the violating text highlighted in pink. You can then rewrite the article sufficiently so as to remove the violations. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:23, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, this is more than helpful and I'll rewrite the article as soon as possible. ––Sundostund (talk) 18:28, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Large mole
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Aposthonia ceylonica
Materialscientist (talk) 01:51, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ussuri shrew
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Wildlife of Spain
DYKUpdateBot (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Dortan
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

April 2019
Please stop edit warring at E. W. Priestap and join the discussion at Talk:E. W. Priestap. R2 (bleep) 15:43, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Please stop removing sourced content. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:34, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:NOTEVERYTHING? If you continue to edit war in violation of our policies then you will eventually be blocked. I'd rather that we have a discussion at Talk:E. W. Priestap. R2 (bleep) 18:36, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sternaspis scutata
Hello! Your submission of Sternaspis scutata at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 18:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Never mind! Yoninah (talk) 18:34, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Zorotypus hubbardi
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kingdom of the Aures
Hello! Your submission of Kingdom of the Aures at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! RRD (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Poecilochaetus serpens
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Promachocrinus
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Ussuri shrew
Cwmhiraeth, I do not see where it says that. Is it hidden under a tab or something? I looked. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry for talk page stalking, but it appears what Cwm quoted is in the Assessment Information section of the IUCN ref, if you click on the tab "Assessment Information in detail". Most content on IUCN articles is hidden beneath tabs like these (i.e. "X in detail") which can be annoying at times. Cheers, -- SkyGazer 512 My talk page 01:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Ha, now I see it. Thanks Stargazer, and you too, Cwmhiraeth. Drmies (talk) 01:53, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * In my opinion the IUCN site was much better before they changed the layout. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Crinoid
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Crinoid you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Crinoid
The article Crinoid you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Crinoid for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:02, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sternaspis scutata
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mottled piculet
Materialscientist (talk) 00:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

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Notability tag
Howdy, you put a notability tag on an article I created (Edith Mitchell Dabbs)). I believe I have remedied the problem. Could you take a look? Thanks. Muttnick (talk) 07:15, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Review my article
Can you please review my article D/O Parvathamma,Ellidde Illi Tanaka and Bicchugatti Chapter −1 Dalvayi Dange — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shreyashv26 (talk • contribs) 12:08, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mottled piculet
Materialscientist (talk) 00:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lamellaria perspicua
Materialscientist (talk) 00:17, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Royal vole
Materialscientist (talk) 00:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lirabuccinum dirum
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Echiura
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Urgent DYK promotion
Hi Cwmhiraeth, I wouldn't normally ask this but things have stalled to the point where this has become urgent. Template:Did you know nominations/Christ Is Risen! Christ Is Risen! is being held for Easter but hasn't been promoted. The main sticking point is about the image (though the prep did save the image spot for this I assume) but it has approved hooks with and without it. I don't want to be a bother but can I ask if you would be able to promote it to the Easter prep please?  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 09:05, 20 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Perhaps find someone who has edited after 16 April. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Let's see. Yoninah celebrating Passover, Maile approved a hook ... Amakuru, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I have promoted it, with the image, which seems appropriate to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 13:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I just want to make sure that you read . --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I had read it. It seems to me that, as Easter is a special day in the Christian calendar, it is reasonable to include the image. At other times of year, we can have similar slots for other faiths if people wish to nominate suitable articles and request the dates. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:37, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I am normally all for IAR, but don't see why - only because it's Easter - we should ignore the basic guideline how to illustrate a song. This has nothing to do with religion. I removed a crucifixion image from Die sieben Worte Jesu Christi am Kreuz, as not really to the composition, only its topic. My last word on the topic, but I'd not be surprised if we'd get another round at ERRORS. - Happy Easter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Impacted wisdom teeth
Dear Cwmhiraeth. In 2014 you did an GA1 review of Impacted wisdom teeth but I was on an extended Wikibreak. I've leaned back in for some other projects, and realized that I'd never followed through on your recommendations. I've made the corrections, and will be renominating the article for GA. I thought I'd let you know, in case you have the motivation to take another look. Thanks again for the work on the initial review, and I apologise for letting your efforts wait 5 years before acting on them. Best. Ian Furst (talk) 14:11, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review. Will try to keep the next one under a 60 month cycle time! Ian Furst (talk) 11:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Euretaster insignis
Hello! Your submission of Euretaster insignis at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:55, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Euastacus dalagarbe
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Shrub's Wood Long Barrow
Hello! Your submission of Shrub's Wood Long Barrow at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 16:55, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Yoga for women
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Luquillo Experimental Forest
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Euretaster insignis
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sierra de Luquillo
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Podocarpus coriaceus
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Brunellia comocladifolia
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Weinmannia pinnata
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Did you know?
Congratulations! Yoninah (talk) 19:13, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mazeno Peak
Hello! Your submission of Mazeno Peak at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Teratix ₵ 04:26, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

What
caused you to revert my source-removals and restore an user-generated website, (that has been *again* removed by another editor) and another shitty magazine, (that has been criticized for factual inaccuracy), over Mazeno Peak? &#x222F; WBG converse 05:05, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Aporometra wilsoni
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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I took an interest in ticks
Because I was camping recently, and when the sun came out, it got hot, so I opened the tent door, and I saw some creature enter. It was just hanging onto the interior of the tent flap, and waving its antennae at me. I was like, "Is that a tick?!" Yup, it was a tick, and those weren't antennae; they were its front legs. It was probably trying to use its Haller's organ to find me.

I tried to knock it to the tent floor without touching it, and it ended up falling into a pile of camping supplies and vanishing. I couldn't find it. I threw all my camping supplies out of the tent and went through them and still couldn't find the tick. So I actually cut short my camping trip and went home to sleep in my bed rather than stay in that tent with that tick possibly ready to come out of hiding after I fell asleep.

I started reading up, and I realized, it was no accident that the tick showed up; it probably sensed my carbon dioxide, maybe vibrations from my movements, and other host cues and approached for that reason. I hadn't realized they had all those capabilities. Then I thought, "Well, maybe if I stay away awhile and come back, the tick will be dead by then," but nope, they can live for weeks or months just waiting.

So, maybe I need to throw that whole tent into a bonfire and get a new one, and next time I'm taking a slew of different precautions, like putting down some double-sided carpet tape, or some Tangle-Trap sticky coating, around the whole perimeter of the tent area, so that any ticks that crawl up will hopefully get stuck there. Yeah, I could use permethrin, I know, but I didn't really prepare adequately; I figured ticks mostly just hung out in the weeds rather than crawling right up onto and into tents. (When I came back to the tent, there were more ticks crawling on it, and especially hanging onto the tent flap, right near the zipper, presumably to try to ambush me; there must be some really strong cues that let them know I enter and leave by that area, so that's where they can find me.)

I also realize now, it was a mistake to pitch the tent in an area where water collects whenever it rains, and where there's a lot of brush nearby, and where there are signs of wildlife (rabbits, woodchucks, etc.) living in the area; it's kinda like ringing the dinner bell.

Anyway, fascinating creatures. Зенитная Самоходная Установка (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Interesting! You don't say what country you were camping in but I can see that you have been quite put off camping in wild areas, which is a pity. Here in the UK I do not encounter ticks often and when I do, it is generally on the dog. Regards, Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:12, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was camping in a wasteland area of Virginia where there's a lot of blackjack (high clay content) soil that lacks permeability, resulting in a lot of standing water. If you look at the photo here next to the caption that says, "BlackJack soils formed from diabase bedrock do not allow water to pass easily" that's pretty much what my campsite looked like. Tick heaven, when there's been some rainfall, because there's a lot of brush, plus puddles where water has collected and not been able to run off anywhere. But if it weren't tick season, it would probably be mosquito season, or else winter.


 * I wanted to go someplace like Colorado that's a bit nicer but wasn't able to make the arrangements with my sister, who lives there, so ended up just going into the wilderness where I lived. Now I see why people pay money to go to real campsites where they've given you an environment that's been cleared of stuff that would tend to support pests, and has good drainage, etc.


 * Well, I see my edits to tick got reverted because I copied a little too liberally from some journals, but my takeaway from my research is that for an animal that's so small, ticks are hardy, well-adapted to their niche, and highly sophisticated (e.g. having all those drugs in their saliva to overcome host defenses). They're also dangerous, because they're carrying so many diseases these days. I think in this area, we pretty much all know someone who's suffered a life-changing tick bite. Зенитная Самоходная Установка (talk) 13:35, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I saw the information that you had added to the Tick article which was deleted. I suggest you try again, using your own words as far as possible. I reckon you find ticks, not just in the sort of location you have described, but also anywhere they have dropped off a previous host and are ready for their next meal. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:31, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Shrub's Wood Long Barrow
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 May newsletter
The second round of the 2019 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to scored 32 points to advance into round 3. Our top four scorers in round 2 all scored over 400 points and were:

Other notable performances were put in by Barkeep49 with six GAs, 🇺🇸 Ceranthor, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski, and  Canada Hky, each with seven GARs, and 🇩🇰 MPJ-DK with a seven item GT.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber (1210), our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three DYKs. He also made good use of the bonus points available, more than doubling his score by choosing appropriate articles to work on.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Kosack (750), last year's runner up, with an FA, a GA, two FLs, and five DYKs.
 * Pirate_Flag_of_Henry_Every.svg (480), a WikiCup veteran, with 16 featured pictures, mostly restorations.
 * Zwerg Nase (461), a seasoned competitor, with a FA, a GA and an ITN item.

So far contestants have achieved nine featured articles between them and a splendid 80 good articles. Commendably, 227 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2019 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. The judges are pleased with the thorough GARs that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:46, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Janaria
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Orphan Tagging via Page Curation
Hi there! Noted you tagged some articles as orphans even when they have incoming links. This is likely due to the old definitions requiring at least 3 links to not be considered an orphans but it had been updated to requiring just 1 link to be declassified as an orphan. Do see WP:ORPHAN for details I am not using the Page Curation tools but there is probably a setting for automated orphan tagging (if there is) to set it as 1. Thanks! --Xaiver0510 (talk) 10:08, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks for the heads up. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:11, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Maxmuelleria lankesteri
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Kardaki Temple DYK request
Hi Cwmhiraeth. I would like to request a last-minute small change to the hook. The current hook is: "... that Kardaki Temple is considered to be the only Greek temple of Doric..." Could you possibly add "in Corfu", after "Kardaki Temple", so that it reads: "... that Kardaki Temple in Corfu is considered to be the only Greek temple of Doric..." Thank you. Dr.  K.  01:59, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The hook is currently in Queue 6 where only administrators can make alterations. Looking at the article, it does not mention Corfu when making the claim about the absence of a frieze. If you think the claim should be modified in the hook, change the facts in the article, and then post on the DYK discussion page where an administrator will see your request for changing the hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Cwmhiraeth. The temple is in Corfu. It is written at the lead. I will ask an admin. Thank you. Dr.   K.  05:23, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Not so. The statement "It is considered to be the only Greek temple of Doric architecture that does not have a frieze." does not mention Corfu. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:26, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Kardaki Temple is in Corfu. So if we add Kardaki Temple, in Corfu blah blah etc. instead of just Kardaki Temple blah etc. is uncontroversial. I just want to specify Kardaki Temple's location on Earth which is Corfu. Dr.   K.  05:30, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean. Man, that's a conundrum. Let me see what I can do to fix this. Thanks and sorry. Dr.   K.  05:33, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I give up. It sounds awkward with any formulation I considered. Thank you again Cwmhiraeth, and sorry once more for this disturbance. Dr.   K.  05:41, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Boltenia villosa
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

References in marine biology
I've noticed you've been having quite a few marine organisms on DYK recently. A specialty of mine is tracking and formatting citations, particularly for original descriptions, alongside with relevant links (see e.g. my edits to Boltenia villosa and Janaria). I've been mostly working on Wikispecies and Wikidata recently, but if you'd like, I'd be interested in collaborating with you on this aspect of your work. Circéus (talk) 11:25, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Tracking original citations and formatting them correctly is not of prime interest to me, so you are welcome to make improvements as you think fit. I keep a list in my sandbox with a date beside the things I have been working on recently. Lower down the list, the links are mostly ideas for future work. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:27, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Joe Kryczka
Hi, ALT18 is ready for promotion on this long and complicated template. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:27, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 10:29, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Labidochirus splendescens
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your efforts in distributing these awards, Gerda. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:36, 11 May 2019 (UTC)


 * It's a pleasure, my pleasure, really, to begin every morning with reasons to be thankful. It's a special pleasure when I recognise the username (admittedly not always), and more so in case of an almost daily fruitful collaboration as with you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mazeno Ridge
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Crinoid
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * A beautiful image and intriguing hook. No wonder it almost reached 5,000 hits! Congratulations! Yoninah (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Prep 3
Hi, the image hook I placed here was moved up to another queue. I've gone through several other possibilities, but keep finding problems with the nominations. Would you like to promote my Jeff's Gourmet Sausage Factory hook? Yoninah (talk) 21:25, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:24, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 10:48, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Notocrinus virilis
feminist (talk) 02:16, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Bidni
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Prep 6
Hi, there's a special occasion hook for May 23 that needs to go in this set. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 12:36, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 14:05, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

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 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.


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 * What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

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Trần dynasty military tactics and organization
Hi I saw you added a sign on page Trần dynasty military tactics and organization, can you check it again, user HĐ and user LilHelpa had edits this page, I'm think it look good. Đông Minh (talk) 05:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The article really needs attention from a copyeditor, preferably someone with proficiency in the language. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:28, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Bahía Lomas
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Scaled piculet
Hello! Your submission of Scaled piculet at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:01, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lasaea rubra
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Approval of pages

 * Kudumbar
 * Mamallarnarashimavarman (talk) 03:51, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Mamallarnarashimavarman (talk) 03:52, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Devendra Kulathan

Thank you so much Mamallarnarashimavarman (talk) 09:50, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Nubra River
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pseudamphithoides incurvaria
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Dictyota bartayresiana
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kingdom of the Aures
Hello! Your submission of Kingdom of the Aures at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 15:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pagurus dalli
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Schuchertinia milleri
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Clistosaccus
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Out of the depths
You made my day with your bold solution, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. They told us on the radio to count the number of flowers on a square metre of lawn as we need to encourage our insect pollinators. I thought that was a stupid idea, as most people shave their lawns and as a result, they are devoid of flowers. Think of the millions of insects that are appreciating this splendid field of flowering rape. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:18, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I do. Flowering of rape is in its last days here, was as splendid as last year when I took the pic. Lawn should become meadow, for the insects ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The time sink continues. Perhaps better just approve, and let someone else do the promotion? Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Believe it or not, today Six Motets, Op. 82 (Kiel) appeared! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Excellent. It took 90 days, I think. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:24, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

100,000 edits
I have just been surprised to get a "thank you" notice which stated:
 * "You just made your hundred thousandth edit; thank you for an amazing contribution!" Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:54, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rook (bird)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Rook (bird) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of J Milburn -- J Milburn (talk) 20:20, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Kingdom of the Aurès
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Scaled piculet
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Wildlife of Nigeria
Hello! Your submission of Wildlife of Nigeria at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! RRD (talk) 04:45, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Gersemia juliepackardae
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 May 2019
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Barnstar

 * Well, thank you. And thanking you in turn for your quality articles on Washington, the MLS Cup etc. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:27, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Niayes
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Tunicotheres
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Airport malaria
Cwmhiraeth, can you please stop by this nomination and see what needs to be done? The most recent post here was a question to you, though there may need to be more done by the nominator aside from this. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:45, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

May 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

 * May 2019&mdash;Issue 002


 * Tree of Life


 * Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

On 23 May, user created a talk page post, "Revamp of Wikiproject Biology--Who is In?". In the days since, WP:BIOL has been bustling with activity, with over a dozen editors weighing in on this discussion, as well as several others that have subsequently spawned. An undercurrent of thought is that WP:BIOL has too many subprojects, preventing editors from easily interacting and stopping a "critical mass" of collaboration and engagement. Many mergers and consolidations of subprojects have been tentatively listed, with a consolidation of WikiProjects Genetics + Molecular and Cell Biology + Computational Biology + Biophysics currently in discussion. Other ideas being aired include updating old participants lists, redesigning project pages to make them more user-friendly, and clearly identifying long- and short-term goals.
 * Fundamental changes being discussed at WikiProject Biology

Editors and  had a very fruitful month, collaborating to bring two dinosaur articles to GA and then nominating them both for FA. They graciously decided to answer some questions for the first ToL Editor Spotlight, giving insight to their successful collaborations, explaining why you should collaborate with them, and also sharing some tidbits about their lives off-Wikipedia.
 * Editor Spotlight: These editors want you to write about dinosaurs

1) Enwebb: How long have you two been collaborating on articles? 2) Enwebb: Why dinosaurs? 3) Enwebb: Why should other editors join you in writing articles related to paleontology? Are you looking to attract new editors, or draw in experienced editors from other areas of Wikipedia?
 * Jens Lallensack: I started in the German Wikipedia in 2005 but switched to the English Wikipedia because of its very active dinosaur project. My first major collaboration with FunkMonk was on Heterodontosaurus in 2015.
 * FunkMonk: Yeah, we had interacted already on talk pages and through reviewing each other's articles, and at some point I was thinking of expanding Heterodontosaurus, and realised Jens had already written the German Wikipedia version, so it seemed natural to work together on the English one. Our latest collaboration was Spinophorosaurus, where by another coincidence, I had wanted to work on that article for the WP:Four Award, and it turned out that Jens had a German book about the expedition that found the dinosaur, which I wouldn't have been able to utilise with my meagre German skills. Between those, we also worked on Brachiosaurus, a wider Dinosaur Project collaboration between several editors.
 * JL: Because of the huge public interest in them. But dinosaurs are also highly interesting from a scientific point of view: key evolutionary innovations emerged within this group, such as warm-bloodedness, gigantism, and flight. Dinosaur research is, together with the study of fossil human remains, the most active field in paleontology. New scientific techniques and approaches tend to get developed within this field. Dinosaur research became increasingly interdisciplinary, and now does not only rely on various fields of biology and geology, but also on chemistry and physics, among others. Dinosaurs are therefore ideal to convey scientific methodology to the general public.
 * FM: As outlined above, dinosaurs have been described as a "gateway to science"; if you learn about dinosaurs, you will most likely also learn about a lot of scientific fields you would not necessarily be exposed to otherwise. On a more personal level, having grown up with and being influenced by various dinosaur media, it feels pretty cool to help spread knowledge about these animals, closest we can get to keeping them alive.
 * JL: Because we are a small but active and helpful community. Our Dinosaur collaboration, one of the very few active open collaborations in Wikipedia, makes high-level writing on important articles easier and more fun. Our collaboration is especially open to editors without prior experience in high-level writing. But we do not only write articles: several WikiProject Dinosaur participants are artists who do a great job illustrating the articles, and maintain an extensive and very active image review system. In fact, a number of later authors started with contributing images.
 * FM: Anyone who is interested in palaeontology is welcome to try writing articles, and we would be more than willing to help. I find that the more people that work on articles simultaneously with me, the more motivation I get to write myself. I am also one of those editors who started out contributing dinosaur illustrations and making minor edits, and only began writing after some years. But when I got to it, it wasn't as intimidating as I had feared, and I've learned a lot in the process. For example anatomy; if you know dinosaur anatomy, you have a very good framework for understanding the anatomy of other tetrapod animals, including humans.

4) Enwebb: Between the two of you, you have over 300 GA reviews. FunkMonk, you have over 250 of those. What keeps you coming back to review more articles?
 * FM: One of the main reasons I review GANs is to learn more about subjects that seem interesting (or which I would perhaps not come across otherwise). There are of course also more practical reasons, such as helping an article on its way towards FAC, to reduce the GAN backlog, and to "pay back" when I have a nomination up myself. It feels like a win-win situation where I can be entertained by interesting info, while also helping other editors get their nominations in shape, and we'll end up with an article that hopefully serves to educate a lot of people (the greater good).
 * JL: Because I enjoy reading Wikipedia articles and like to learn new things. In addition, reviews give me the opportunity to have direct contact with the authors, and help them to make their articles even better. This is quite rewarding for me personally. But I also review because I consider our GA and FA system to be of fundamental importance for Wikipedia. When I started editing Wikipedia (the German version), the article promotion reviews motivated me and improved my writing skills a lot. Submitting an article for review requires one to get serious and take additional steps to bring the article to the best quality possible. GAs and FAs are also a good starting point for readers, and may motivate them to become authors themselves.

5) Enwebb: What are your editing preferences? Any scripts or gadgets you find invaluable? 6) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-wiki?
 * FM: One script that everyone should know about is the duplink highlight tool. It will show duplinks within the intro and body of a given article separately, and it seems a lot of people still don't know about it, though they are happy when introduced to it. I really liked the citationbot too (since citation consistency is a boring chore to me), but it seems to be blocked at the moment due to some technical issues.
 * JL: I often review using the Wikipedia Beta app on my smartphone, as it allows me to read without needing to sit in front of the PC. For writing, I find the reference management software Zotero invaluable, as it generates citation templates automatically, saving a lot of time.
 * Editor's note: I downloaded Zotero and tried it for the first time and think it is a very useful tool. More here.
 * FM: Perhaps that I have no background in natural history/science, but work with animation and games. But fascination with and knowledge of nature and animals is actually very helpful when designing and animating characters and creatures, so it isn't that far off, and I can actually use some of the things I learn while writing here for my work (when I wrote the Dromaeosauroides article, it was partially to learn more about the animal for a design-school project).
 * JL: That I am actually doing research on dinosaurs. Though I avoid writing about topics I publish research on, my Wikipedia work helps me to keep a good general overview over the field, and quite regularly I can use what I learned while writing for Wikipedia for my research.

Get in touch with these editors regarding collaboration at WikiProject Dinosaurs!
 * Marine life continues to dominate ToL DYKs

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DYK for Calma glaucoides
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Wyss Foundation and the Wyss Campaign for Nature
Hello again! You helped with the African Parks project a while back, so I was wondering if I might be able to get some feedback on a similar project for the Wyss Foundation. Back in April, the entire "Wyss Campaign for Nature" section was removed from the Wyss Foundation article, which I submitted for review on behalf of the organization. The campaign is ongoing and has received significant coverage, so I'm wondering how the Wyss Campaign for Nature might be covered within the article. I've proposed adding back minimal mention of the campaign with past-focused language, as requested by User:Spintendo, the editor who removed the text. Might you be willing to share some feedback as well, or even update the article appropriately if you feel inclined?

Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 18:22, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I am sorry you are having this problem because you are making every effort to stick by the rules for CoI editing and in my view, making a good job of it. However, I am reluctant to get involved in a content-related issue or contradict another editor. Let's see what happens as a result of the discussion on the article talk page, and if it reaches an impasse, I might add something about the campaign to the article myself. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem, I understand. Thanks for replying. Inkian Jason (talk) 19:01, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I am still hoping for a second opinion, if you're willing. User:Spintendo has provided feedback but my concern is the information (if added per his suggestion) would have no context for readers. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:35, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for updating the article. Might you be willing to review this request to add one additional sentence as well? Thanks again either way. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:17, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Dadia Forest
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Wildlife of Liberia
Hello! Your submission of Wildlife of Liberia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Kainji National Park
I completed a review at Template:Did you know nominations/Kainji National Park, and noted one concern. I look forward to seeing this on the main page. Thanks in advance. Flibirigit (talk) 03:31, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Image?
I thought that the black person pictured on the Dutch painting (prep 3) almost needed the image, for place in time and style, and being notable for being the first black person pictured on such a painting. If not, please add some time, as mentioned in the nom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * My thinking on the image was that de Bruin is such a minor part of the picture, almost merging into the background, with the main figure not being important enough to have his own article. If the subject of the article had been the painting, then I would have used the image, but as it was about the ex-slave, I thought not. I considered that the inclusion of the dates in the hook was awkward and thought that mention of the Dutch Republic was sufficient to indicate the period in which he lived. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:50, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Understand most, but hw does Dutch Republic give a time frame? Who will click that? For others it may appear just as a synonym for Netherlands. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Calyptraeotheres garthi
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Florence Fang
Surely it deserves the picture slot in another set? This is a gift we should not refuse. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:58, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You already have the picture slot in Prep 6 and I think the Fang hook will garner plenty of interest in the quirky position. There are just too many nominations with good, relevant images for them all to be promoted to image slots. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:28, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Göreme National Park
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Patella ferruginea
Hello! Your submission of Patella ferruginea at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:48, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

ID question
I was hoping you (or someone you know) could help us identify the correct species of bubble coral surrounding the feather duster in the taxobox image at Sabellastarte spectabilis. The discussion is on my User talk:Atsme. Thanks in advance... <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme Talk 📧 21:20, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't know at all. On one occasion when I thought a starfish was misidentified in an image, I asked the starfish expert Christopher Mah through his website and he graciously replied and identified it correctly. You could do likewise with a Pacific coral expert. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:55, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Cw. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme Talk 📧 09:41, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Hevsel Gardens
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Liberia
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cycloseris cyclolites
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Thanks for reviewing The Demons of Eden, Cwmhiraeth.

Winged Blades of Godric has gone over this page again and marked it as unpatrolled. Their note is:

This, in it's current state, fails WP:NBOOK by a mile or so.

I have a feeling that this will be eventually merged to Lydia Cacho but need to do a detailed search for literary reviews.

Please contact Winged Blades of Godric for any further query. Thanks.

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

&#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 08:52, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, Sally L. Wood ought have been marked as a stub. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 09:13, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Same for Melynda Price; stub.
 * Also, what (in your view) is her claim to notability? Please mention the relevant point(s) of NACADEMIC. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 09:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, what (in your view) is her claim to notability? Please mention the relevant point(s) of NACADEMIC. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 09:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)


 * With a backlog of over 5000 articles, you might more usefully patrol new articles yourself rather than spend your time checking mine and complaining here about my inadequacies. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:28, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * That's a poor response and you need to be held accountable for your patrols. I also believe that the above query is reasonably polite and rational, when contrasted with your response.
 * Furthermore, quality>>>quantity and that there are 5000 (or 50,000) articles in the queue does not entitle bad reviews.
 * FWIW, I am not checking your reviews and if you see, all the above 3 articles were created by the same user. And, I got involved only after reviewing 2 of her newly-created articles. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 09:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I am not checking your reviews and if you see, all the above 3 articles were created by the same user. And, I got involved only after reviewing 2 of her newly-created articles. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 09:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I am not checking your reviews and if you see, all the above 3 articles were created by the same user. And, I got involved only after reviewing 2 of her newly-created articles. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 09:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Leptopentacta elongata
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Raet National Park
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Patella ferruginea
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Al Hoceima National Park
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Themiste pyroides
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Asplenium fontanum
Hello! Your submission of Asplenium fontanum at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Teratix ₵ 10:31, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 15:08, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * To quote from WP:CIR:- The ability to understand their own abilities and competencies, and avoid editing in areas where their lack of skill and/or knowledge causes them to create significant errors for others to clean up. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 15:10, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the heads up. I have that page on my watchlist, so I would have seen the discussion. While talking of competence, look at this mess for an example of incompetence. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Much better than sending rubbish to the main page and then, maintaining silence, when people are calling you out. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 09:53, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Not so. Leaving a page in a mess like that was very bad. Your recent edit to the article Rook (bird) seem to indicate that you are trolling me. I have no particular quarrel with you, so please leave me alone. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:03, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rook (bird)
The article Rook (bird) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Rook (bird) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of J Milburn -- J Milburn (talk) 20:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Greece
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Erythrina berteroana
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Golem (Casken opera)
Cwmhiraeth, I wasn't sure whether you'd seen that Gerda Arendt recently replied to your most recent review here. I hope that the issues you had have all been addressed now. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/IM 67118
Cwmhiraeth, in your review response here you use the words "good to go", but there's no icon to indicate that the nomination as a whole has been approved. Can you please stop by to see whether this should have an icon, and if so, add it? Many thanks, and thanks for ticking that nomination I mentioned here earlier today. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:04, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Brachystegia eurycoma
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Halocynthia igaboja
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Senegal
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Senegal one-striped grass mouse
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


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WikiCup 2019 July newsletter
The third round of the 2019 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round needed to score at least 68 points, which is substantially lower than last year's 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:


 * 🇳🇫 Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with 500 points derived mainly from a featured article and two GAs on natural history topics
 * Adam Cuerden, with 480 points, a tally built on 16 featured pictures, the result of meticulous restoration work
 * SounderBruce, a finalist in the last two years, with 306 points from a variety of submissions, mostly related to sport or the State of Washington
 * 🇺🇸 Usernameunique, with 305 points derived from a featured article and two GAs on archaeology and related topics

Contestants managed 4 (5) featured articles, 4 featured lists, 18 featured pictures, 29 good articles, 50 DYK entries, 9 ITN entries, and 39 good article reviews. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and it is imperative to claim them in the correct round; one FA claim had to be rejected because it was incorrectly submitted (claimed in Round 3 when it qualified for Round 2), so be warned! When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:12, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cycloseris distorta
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Help with understanding an article review
Good afternoon, prynhawn dda. I would like to ask for your help please. This morning I received a notice to say that an article I prepared recently, Kinderling Kids Radio, had been reviewed by you.

I have tried to find what the review does, where it is, what it means, etc. and have been unsuccessful in doing so. Could you please let me know what you did and where it is, if it is something I am allowed to view. Many thanks. Dane &#124; Geld 11:23, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I was reviewing the article as part of "New page patrolling" as explained here. All new pages are inspected as soon as possible to ensure they conform to Wikipedia policies and are suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. The review only really consists of a brief inspection as illustrated by the basic flowchart on top right of that page. Da boch chi. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:35, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Pardon?
Re: this, the round ended on June 28 and I logged those entries on June 28. I don't care that much, but I don't follow how it was "too late". – Muboshgu (talk) 17:39, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * With DYKs and other content, you have 14 days to submit your claim according to the rules. Two of your DYKs and your GA were submitted outside the 14 day period. Kate Gallego for example appeared on the main page on 29 May, and you submitted it for the WikiCup on 28 June. Similarly Unwritten rules of baseball appeared on 16 May, and Edgar Martínez became a GA on June 1st, and both were submitted on June 28th. If they had been a day or two late I might have been more relaxed about them, but if I had allowed your three late submissions to stand, you would have gone through to Round 4 and someone else would have been excluded, and that did not seem fair. Sorry about that, in such cases it is not possible to make decisions that please everyone. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I was not aware of that rule. No matter. I probably wouldn't have made it past the new round anyway. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:03, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

June 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

 * June 2019&mdash;Issue 003


 * Tree of Life


 * Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!


 * Spineless editors overwhelmed by stubs

Within the Tree of Life and its many subprojects, there is an abundance of stubs. Welcome to Wikipedia, what's new, right? However, based on all wikiprojects listed (just over two thousand), the Tree of Life project is worse off in average article quality than most. Based on the concept of relative WikiWork (the average number of "steps" needed to have a project consisting of all featured articles (FAs), where stub status → FA consists of six steps), only seven projects within the ToL have an average rating of "start class" or better. Many projects, particularly those involving invertebrates, hover at an average article quality slightly better than a stub. With relative WikiWorks of 5.98 each, WikiProject Lepidoptera and WikiProject Beetles have the highest relative WikiWork of any project. Given that invertebrates are incredibly speciose, it may not surprise you that many articles about them are lower quality. WikiProject Beetles, for example, has over 20 times more articles than WikiProject Cats. Wikipedia will always be incomplete, so we should take our relatively low WikiWork as motivation to write more articles that are also better in quality.

We're joined for this month's Editor Spotlight by, a long-time contributor who lists themselves as a member of WikiProject Fungus, WikiProject Algae, and WikiProject Cephalopods.
 * Editor Spotlight: Showing love to misfit taxa

1) Enwebb: How did you come to edit articles about organisms and taxonomic groups?
 * Nessie: The main force, then and now, driving me to create or edit articles is thinking "Why isn't there an article on that on Wikipedia?" Either I'll read about some rarely-sighted creature in the deep sea or find something new on iNaturalist and want to learn more.  First stop (surprise!) is Wikipedia, and many times there is just a stub or no page at all.  Sometimes I just add the source that got me to the article, not sometimes I go deep and try to get everything from the library or online journals and put it all in an article.  The nice thing about taxa is the strong precedent that all accepted extant taxa are notable, so one does not need to really worry about doing a ton of research and having the page get removed.  I was super worried about this as a new editor:  I still really dislike conflict so if I can avoid it I do.  Anyway, the most important part is stitching an article in to the rest of Wikipedia:  Linking all the jargon, taxonomers, pollinators, etc., adding categories, and putting in the correct WikiProjects.  Recently I have been doing more of the stitching-in stuff with extant articles.  The last deep-dive article I made was Karuka at the end of last year, which is a bit of a break for me.  I guess it's easier to do all the other stuff on my tablet while watching TV.

2) Enwebb: Many editors in the ToL are highly specialized on a group of taxa. A look at your recently created articles includes much diversity, though, with viruses, bacteria, algae, and cnidarians all represented&mdash;are there any commonalities for the articles you work on? Would you say you're particularly interested in certain groups?
 * Nessie: I was a nerd from a time when that would get you beat up, so I like odd things and underdogs. I also avoid butting heads, so not only do I find siphonophores and seaweeds fascinating I don't have to worry about stepping on anyone's toes.  I go down rabbitholes where I start writing an article like Mastocarpus papillatus because I found some growing on some rocks, then in my research I see it is parasitized by Pythium porphyrae, which has no article, and how can that be for an oomycete that oddly lives in the ocean and also attacks my tasty nori.  So then I wrote that article and that got me blowing off the dust on other Oomycota articles, encouraged by the pull of propagating automatic taxoboxes.  Once you've done the taxonomy template for the genus, well then you might as well do all the species now that the template is taken care of for them too. and so on until I get sucked in somewhere else. I think it's good to advocate for some of these 'oddball' taxa as it makes it easier for editors to expand their range from say plants to the pathogenic microorganisms of their favorite plant.


 * My favorite clades though, It's hard to pick for a dilettante like me. I like working on virus taxonomy, but I can't think of a specific virus species that I am awed by.  Maybe Tulip breaking virus  for teaching us economics or Variola virus for having so many, one of which was popularly sung about by Desi Arnaz and then inspired the name of a cartoon character who was then misremembered and then turned into a nickname for Howard Stern's producer Gary Dell'Abate.  Sorry, really had to share that  chain, but for a species that's not a staple food it probably has the most deities.  But anyway, for having the most species that wow me, I love a good fungus or algae, but that often is led by my stomach.  Also why I seem to research so many plant articles.  You can't eat siphonophores, at least I don't, but they are fascinating with their federalist colonies of zooids.  Bats are all amazing, but the task force seems to have done so much I feel the oomycetes and slime moulds need more love.  Same thing with dinosaurs (I'm team Therizinosaurus though).  But honestly, every species has that one moment in the research where you just go, wow, that's so interesting.  For instance, I loved discovering that the picture-winged fly (Delphinia picta) has a mating dance that involves blowing bubbles.  Now I keep expecting them to show me when they land on my arm, but no such luck yet.

3) Enwebb: I noticed that many of your recent edits utilize the script Rater, which aids in quickly reassessing the quality and importance of an article. Why is it important to update talk page assessments of articles? I also noticed that the quality rating you assign often aligns with ORES, a script that uses machine-learning to predict article quality. Coincidence?
 * Nessie: I initially started focusing on WikiProject talk page templates because they seem to be the key to data collecting and maintenance for articles, much more so than categories. This is where you note of an article needs an image, or audio, or a range map.  It's how the cleanup listing bot sorts articles, and how  does his automated taxobox usage stats.  The latter inspired me to look for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&ns%5B0%5D=1&ns%5B118%5D=1&templates_any=Virusbox%0D%0ATaxonbar%0D%0ATaxobox%0D%0ASubspeciesbox%0D%0ASpeciesbox%0D%0AParaphyletic%20group%0D%0AOobox%0D%0AMissing-taxobox%0D%0AInfraspeciesbox%0D%0AIchnobox%0D%0AHybridbox%2Flua%0D%0AHybridbox%0D%0ABiota%20infobox%0D%0AAutomatic%20taxobox&templates_no=rodents%0D%0Afishproject%0D%0AWikiProject%20Viruses%0D%0AWikiProject%20Turtles%0D%0AWikiProject%20Spiders%0D%0AWikiProject%20Sharks%0D%0AWikiProject%20Rodents%0D%0AWikiProject%20Reptiles%0D%0AWikiProject%20Primates%0D%0AWikiProject%20Poultry%0D%0AWikiProject%20Plants%0D%0AWikiProject%20Paleontology%0D%0AWikiProject%20Palaeontology%0D%0AWikiProject%20Microbiology%0D%0AWikiProject%20Micro%0D%0AWikiProject%20Marine%20life%0D%0AWikiProject%20Marine%20Life%0D%0AWikiProject%20Mantodea%0D%0AWikiProject%20Mammals%2FBats%20Task%20Force%0D%0AWikiProject%20Mammals%0D%0AWikiProject%20Lepidoptera%0D%0AWikiProject%20Insects%0D%0AWikiProject%20Hypericaceae%0D%0AWikiProject%20Gastropods%0D%0AWikiProject%20Fungi%0D%0AWikiProject%20Fishes%0D%0AWikiProject%20Equine%0D%0AWikiProject%20Dogs%0D%0AWikiProject%20Dinosaurs%0D%0AWikiProject%20Cetaceans%0D%0AWikiProject%20Cephalopods%0D%0AWikiProject%20Cats%0D%0AWikiProject%20Carnivorous%20plants%0D%0AWikiProject%20Bivalves%0D%0AWikiProject%20Birds%0D%0AWikiProject%20Beetles%0D%0AWikiProject%20Banksia%0D%0AWikiProject%20Arthropods%0D%0AWikiProject%20Animals%0D%0AWikiProject%20Amphibians%20and%20Reptiles%0D%0AWikiProject%20Algae%0D%0AWPSpiders%0D%0AWP%20Spiders%0D%0ASquirrels%0D%0ARodent%0D%0AMammal%0D%0ALepidopteraTalk%0D%0ABirdTalk%0D%0AAARTalk&templates_use_talk_no=on&search_max_results=500&sortby=title&sortorder=descending&add_image=on&interface_language=en&active_tab=tab_templates_n_links&doit= articles on organisms that are not assigned to any ToL WikiProjects] which initially was in the thousands.  I got it down to zero with just copypasta so you can imagine I was excited when I saw the rater tool.  Back then I rated everything stub/low because it was faster:  I couldn't check every article for the items on the B-class checklists.  Plus each project has their own nuances to rating scales and I thought the editors in the individual projects would take it from there.  I also thought all species were important, so how can I choose a favorite?  Now it is much easier with the rater tool and the apparent consensus with 's method of rating by the pageviews (0-9 views/day is low, 10-99 is med, 100-999 is high...).  For the quality I generally go by the ORES rating, you caught me.  It sometimes is thrown off by a long list of species or something, but it's generally good for stub to C: above that needs formal investigation and procedures I am still learning about.  It seems that in the ToL projects we don't focus so much on getting articles to GA/FA so it's been harder to pick up.  It was a little culture shock when I went on the Discord server and it seemed everyone was obsessed with getting articles up in quality.  I think ToL is focusing on all the missing taxa and (re)organizing it all, which when you already have articles on every anime series or whatever you can focus on bulking the articles up more.  In any event, on my growing to-do list is trying to get an article up to FA or GA and learn the process that way so I can better do the quality ratings and not just kick the can down the road.

4) Enwebb: What, if anything, can ToL and its subprojects do to better support collaboration and coordination among editors? How can we improve?
 * Nessie: I mentioned earlier that the projects are the main way maintenance is done. And it is good that we have a bunch of subprojects that let those tasks get broken up into manageable pieces.  Frankly I'm amazed anything gets done with WikiProject Plants with how huge its scope is.  Yet this not only parcels out the work but the discussion as well.  A few editors like  and  keep an eye on many of the subprojects and spread the word, but it's still easy for newer editors to get a little lost.  There should be balance between the lumping and splitting.  The newsletter helps by crossing over all the WikiProjects, and if the discord channel picked up that would help too.  Possibly the big Enwiki talk page changes will help as well.

5) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?
 * Nessie: I'm not sure anything would be surprising. I focus on nature offline too, foraging for mushrooms or wild plants and trying to avoid ticks and mosquitos.  I have started going magnet fishing lately, more to help clean up the environment than in the hopes of finding anything valuable.  But it would be fun to find a weapon and help solve a cold case or something.


 * June DYKs

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Nottinghamshire sex abuse allegations
Thanks for tagging Nottinghamshire sex abuse allegations. I have added a navbox so I think this will create plenty of links to the article. Mock wurzel soup (talk) 13:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Nigeria
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Kainji National Park
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

WWII black-and-white people images
Hi, we seem to have a glut of WWII black-and-white people images on the approved page. Right now one is scheduled to run every 3-4 days. Meanwhile, we have a lot more and colorful people images to run. I'm going to move the XIX Army Corps hook in Prep 5 further along when more prep sets open up, and would appreciate your promoting something other than WWII black-and-white people images for a while. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * By the way, I object to your removing the tallest building in Africa from the image slot. I had asked David Levy if he could straighten the image up and trim it a bit, and I suggest we move it to a later image slot when one becomes available. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:15, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If he could straighten it, that's fine. I moved it because the crooked image looks very odd, almost like a child's building set. Yoninah (talk) 09:31, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mount Oku rat
valereee (talk) 00:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mittendorf's striped grass mouse
valereee (talk) 00:02, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Flyway
valereee (talk) 00:02, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Tiny the Wonder
Thanks, but I really think we are missing a trick if we don't use the cropped image in the nom for Tiny. It's graphically strong and much more interesting than the White House lawn which is, well, a lawn, for a building that everyone is familiar with. Can we swop or find another set for Tiny? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I was anticipating you might ask that, and in fact Yoninah has already swapped it with the White House lawn hook. I thought the "Tiny" image was difficult to understand at thumbnail size and resembled an earthenware vase with decorations on the side against a dark background! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:32, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Government College Bida
For the record, any process errors that have occurred here are entirely mine, despite my two edit summaries 1, 2. I did not examine the original page move carefully when I originally moved the page out of mainspace. Retro ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 14:46, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I was confused too, first I tried to improve "Government college Bida", but when I tried to move it to the correctly capitalised name, I found that there was already an article Government College Bida, that had been created today. Next I checked the new article for copyvios, which incidentally Earwig did not identify, and found that the whole thing was copied from the three different sources it quoted. I could have nominated it for speedy deletion but think that the school is notable, so now the article is a two sentence stub waiting for revdel. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:29, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * By "Earwig", I assume you mean the copyvio tool?
 * I appreciate you outlining your thought process. I'm always interested in hearing how experienced editors like yourself approach various matters, since you have probably developed efficient workflows and there seems to be an area of discretion that is not covered by policies and guidelines (though I do not necessarily think such matters should be the domain of P&G, per WP:CREEP). Retro  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 18:02, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I had watchlisted the page when I draftified a previous version a few weeks ago. I have warned the creator about copyvios, but he hasn't taken much notice and has since created another page riddled with copyvios Federal Government Girls College Bida. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:14, 14 July 2019 (UTC).

DYK for Omo Forest Reserve
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Strombosia pustulata
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Murtaja Qureiris
Hi. It's a long time that I have suggested my DYK. On 20 June 2019 my hook approved as your comment, but has never published yet. Why didn't my hook publish in queue( the main page)?Forest90 (talk) 08:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Basically because there is a backlog of approved nominations that currently stands at 175. Hook sets contain 8 hooks so 80 appear on the main page every 10 days. Your hook will probably appear by the end of July. You can see your nomination on the approved page, waiting its turn. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:52, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll wait, Thanks.Forest90 (talk) 09:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Anopheles funestus
valereee (talk) 00:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Page indicated
Please, You can tell me which, It´s the page to report an evasion of a blocked user. He vandalized a article. Thank you --Historiadormundo (talk) 14:40, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You probably mean this page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:07, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Prep 5
Hi, are you able to fill in the 3 missing hooks in Prep 5 for the July 21 special occasion run date? I've noted their positioning in a hidden note on the template. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:59, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! Yoninah (talk) 13:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Îles Ehotilés National Park
Hello! Your submission of Îles Ehotilés National Park at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SL93 (talk) 00:29, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, LonerXL. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:29, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Another review
Hello Cwmhiraeth. Not long ago you passed my '''DYK nomination, but a little later another reviewer found a few close para-phrasing issues, which I believe have since been resolved. When I was finished, the reviewer called for another opinion. Could you give the nomination a final review to see if it's up to speed? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:45, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Close paraphrasing is difficult to detect and often not easy to avoid if you are looking to give the same meaning as the source and it uses technical terms and scholarly language. Ultimately I suppose the test is whether the author of the source article would feel affronted by the Wikipedia article. A casual glance by me at the article and the source would be inconclusive. I originally checked it with Earwig's copyvio tool and only found quotations, which were acceptable, and the same is true now, but I hesitate to remove a copyvio tag put on by someone else. I would like to remove the tag if they think it is no longer necessary, and then we could move forward with the DYK. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:32, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * and myself have gone through the article several times and, speaking for myself, I believe there are no other close or identical phrases greater than a few words, aside from quotes, names, titles and common grammatical phrases. I am not sure why, after all the scrutiny, Nikkimaria felt another review is necessary, but it would seem she(?) is leaving matters in an other reviewer's hands at this point. In any case, she has removed the tag. As you can see, I've pinged her at the beginning of this message to get her feed back on matters at this point. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:28, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Phytobia betulae
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lophira lanceolata
Hello! Your submission of Lophira lanceolata at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:14, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Prep 1
Hi, would you mind promoting Template:Did you know nominations/Wilhelmine Lübke to the image slot in Prep 1? I've reserved the slot. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 10:59, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Rook (bird)
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

FA turtle
Hi. I was thinking of a FAC project for turtle. Would you be interested? LittleJerry (talk) 23:06, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * No, not really. Improving an article for FA takes up so much time that I would rather be spending working on other articles. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:50, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Îles Ehotilés National Park
valereee (talk) 00:02, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Government College Bida
Government College Bida, was redirected to Bida, and Bida is just a city town in Niger State, while Government College Bida, is a Secondary School, am not happy with that,

DYK for Gerres nigri
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ébrié Lagoon
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Stony coral tissue loss disease
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Tim Tech Consults
I humbly ask you to help to solve the issues that may lead to the deletion of the above mentioned page. I have recently faced a problem of deleting the pages I create. This will water down my efforts as an editor. Please give me your assistance. Agaba Perez (talk) 13:31, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Phyllariopsis brevipes
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

European hare scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that European hare has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 11 August 2019. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/August 11, 2019. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 15:06, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Yellow-footed honeyguide
valereee (talk) 00:03, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Wildlife of Uganda
Hello! Your submission of Wildlife of Uganda at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 04:12, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Petrocoptis pseudoviscosa
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

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Fly, image removed
Hi, You removed this from the 'Fly' article... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fly&oldid=908737942#/media/File:Housefly_(Musca_domestica).jpg You said, 'Image was not a housefly (Musca domestica)'. What type of fly is it do you think it is, a flesh fly?
 * Well, according to the article, there are estimated to be a million species of fly, so I don't know. It looks like a species of rather large fly that I recognise here in the UK, but I do not know its identity. The present image in the article Fly was chosen with care, and its caption explains various features of flies. Your photograph was good, but the insect was rather small. If you can identify it, perhaps you could add it to the appropriate page. As for the change you made in the speciesbox of Housefly, that position is generally kept for the IUCN assessment, but you could add your information with its reference later in the article in an appropriate position. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:35, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lake Kossou
valereee (talk) 00:02, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, you are doing a great job by checking each prep set so thoroughly before moving it to the queue. Most impressive! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:20, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Most anal retentive would be the correct description, I think, but thanks for the kind words! :D --valereee (talk) 13:35, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Dioscorea chouardii
valereee (talk) 00:01, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Humbertia madagascariensis
valereee (talk) 00:01, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Zenker's fruit bat
Hello! Your submission of Zenker's fruit bat at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 16:17, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Dioryctria sylvestrella
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello!
Hello! Sorry for bothering. I've noticed your name in the list of the WP:FAC mentors. Recently, I have released a new article about Indonesian home gardens and I hope that it would be satisfactory to the standards of a featured article. However, I'm afraid that I've made major errors that I haven't noticed yet. If you have any time to give any advice or constructive criticism, comments in its peer review page would be appreciated. Thank you in advance! Dhio-270599 17:21, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I have had a brief look at the article, which is looking good but has some imperfections. I suggest you nominate it for GAN as a preliminary step before attempting FA. You could also ask the Guild of Copyeditors to run through it. You should also consider whether it is aligned with the Manual of Style WP:MOS. For example, the opening section is the lead and should summarise the rest of the text and not introduce any information that is not included and cited elsewhere. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:47, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice! Dhio-270599  18:15, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Halimeda tuna
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Did you know nominations/Lake Aguelmame Sidi Ali
Hi - left a comment for you at Template:Did you know nominations/Lake Aguelmame Sidi Ali - one missing citation in the lead. Icewhiz (talk) 08:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Breeds vs types
Hi, Cw - were you able to read and verify that the Alano Español is actually a recognized breed or is the information anecdotal? Are any of the cited sources considered RS? When I clicked on the cited source for the breed standard, well, see for yourself. I'd be interested in seeing some RS that establish the dog as a breed otherwise, we're talking about Big Foot. When I clicked on this link, it was a dog magazine that states the following, (which tells me it's a type of dog not a breed): (Google translated)

In the WP article itself, it states: "Despite of the sometimes used English name, the Alano is not a bulldog:" Hmmm. Then why is it listed as Spanish Bulldog in the Bulldog breeds? I'm attempting to clean-up some of the dog articles, although it has not been the most fun I've ever had on WP. I welcome friendly collaboration. I fixed the lede for Dog breed yesterday. Oh, and if you've a mind, please join our dog project, and weigh-in on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dogs the discussion "Time to establish guidelines". <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme Talk 📧 18:09, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, I didn't go digging up references and trying to gauge their reliability, and in fact I would rather avoid articles on breeds because, well ummmm, because species are more interesting. I looked at the editing history of Alano Español and saw the cumulative work of fourteen years which you proposed to delete, for what advantage? I like the "Alano backed down in number at a dizzying speed and was terminated", by the way. What I am really saying is, I suppose, lets delete the startup companies trying for a free advert, and the BLPs of people who think they are more important than they are, but there is no need to delete an article that people have been working on for years about a type of dog that may or may not be a breed.


 * I have been doing some merging recently and have looked at the proposal to merge Anatolian Shepherd and Kangal Shepherd Dog, but decided that it would likely be difficult for the minimal benefit that would accrue, and everyone would probably be dissatisfied. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:53, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Queen parrotfish
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 02:01, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

TFA
Thank you today for the European hare, "a well-known and widespread mammal native to western Eurasia. It is the quintessential Lepus species and is known for its active breeding behavior; the source of the term 'mad as a March hare'."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Warming stripes
Hey, Cwmhiraeth! Back home now and able to give a chunk of time today so I'm starting to review stuff in queue, and I saw this hook is currently in a non-image slot in Queue 1. As nom I'm involved, but I was wondering if you'd be okay with using this in a later image slot? I thought it was a hook that particularly needed its image since it's about data visualization. No big deal if you just don't want it in an image slot, but I thought I'd ask. I asked Yoninah, who slotted it into this prep as she was doing some shuffling, and she's okay with it, but then I saw you had originally promoted so wanted to ask you too. Template:Did you know nominations/Warming stripes --valereee (talk) 12:49, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome back! I have no objection. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:54, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! --valereee (talk) 13:01, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Togo
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Oti Valley Faunal Reserve
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sahel bush sparrow
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ethiopian white-footed mouse
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ethiopian forest brush-furred rat
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Ping?
Template:Did you know nominations/Meryem Bekmez - when you closed that, why did I get a ping? Where did the credit go? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. I just treated it in the normal way and did not knowingly ping you. Pinging you now to test! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:48, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * This ping worked. I had no idea why the writer credit got lost, but perhaps it's transferred o the prep? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you. And congratulations on your article and its page-view statistics, which are particularly impressive when you realise that because we are currently running two DYK sets a day, it was only on the main page for twelve hours! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:52, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I am over the moon, really! I was wondering if it had been 24 hours already, that explains that. I might tell my non-wikipedian friends it was actually 20,000, in that case Teeth.png Usedtobecool  ✉ ✨ 19:18, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sebkha el Melah
Hello! Your submission of Sebkha el Melah at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <font color="#000">Running <font color="#00F">On <font color="#080">Brains (talk) 21:28, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Asplenium fontanum
Cwmhiraeth, this is waiting for a response from you to the reviewer's comments. Please return to your nomination at your earliest convenience. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Egaku
Thanks for reviewing my article. :-) Hanbud (talk) 03:21, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for African giant shrew
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Ivory Coast
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Brown-cheeked hornbill
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Asplenium fontanum
Hello! Your submission of Asplenium fontanum at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:08, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Werner Müller (politician)
Cwmhiraeth, the QPQ you requested in your review has been submitted. Can you please check to make sure it (and everything else) is now okay here? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Assagny National Park
valereee (talk) 00:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Erythrophleum ivorense
valereee (talk) 00:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lannea welwitschii
valereee (talk) 00:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Crimson seedcracker
valereee (talk) 12:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Daniellia oliveri
Hello! Your submission of Daniellia oliveri at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Wildlife of Mozambique
Hello! Your submission of Wildlife of Mozambique at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:04, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Marantochloa purpurea
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Anemonia sulcata
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Correction to Equestrian statue of Theodore Roosevelt (New York City)
Not disputing your move to add (New York City) but would like to point out, and request, that 'Statue' was upper-cased until just before the Requested Move, when it was incorrectly lower-cased, and that the consensus (and guidelines) seems to be to recapitalize 'Statue' to its original upper casing because it's the real name of the statue. Please read the comments with this in mind, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:04, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed, there does seem to be a consensus to capitalise "statue". Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:30, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:33, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Help with GA icon
I thought that you might know the answer because of your experience. I passed Thuy Trang for Good Article status, but it's been several hours with no GA icon being placed on the article. I'm not sure if I did something wrong with closing the template. SL93 (talk) 18:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It looks to me as if you did things correctly. I suggest you leave it for 24 hours and if the bot hasn't added it by then, add it yourself. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:30, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thank you. SL93 (talk) 18:34, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry for bugging you again, but the nominator also nominated it for DYK. The two things keeping it from being approved are a QPQ and if three non-feee images are too many for a GA. I can’t seem to find anything that states how many can be used. SL93 (talk) 19:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I'm not knowledgeable about image copyright matters. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Echinochloa pyramidalis
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Wildlife of Uganda at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; if you would like to continue, please link the nomination to the nominations page as described in step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with db-g7, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 09:44, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Namib brush-tailed gerbil
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lophira lanceolata
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lesser seedcracker
— Maile (talk) 12:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Olyra latifolia
— Maile (talk) 12:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Greater Egyptian gerbil
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lesser Egyptian gerbil
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Project Rover
Cwmhiraeth, as you were the sole reviewer on this nomination, you should not also be the person who promotes it to prep. If it's a timing issue, perhaps Yoninah would be willing to promote it, but for now you should pull it. Sorry. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:57, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I was looking for a good image hook to complete the set and had forgotten that I had reviewed the nomination. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Could you promote this please, preferably to an image slot? It will look odd to the nominator that I promoted it and then promptly demoted it! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:11, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ No problem. Yoninah (talk) 09:57, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Need an help on a page
There was a merging between two separate pages by a person Devendrakula Velalar Can you help me correct it back it's not Devendrakulam Mamallarnarashimavarman (talk) 08:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I am sorry, but this is not a subject I know anything about, and it does not seem to me that two pages have been merged. You will need to discuss this matter on the article's talk page or with the other editor involved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:10, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Marahoué National Park
valereee (talk) 00:02, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Erythrophleum couminga
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lumnitzera racemosa
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Xylocarpus granatum
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Spitzeln
You promoted Template:Did you know nominations/Spitzeln, but I don't think it was ever added to a prep area. SL93 (talk) 13:43, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry. It was promoted to the main page for balance. SL93 (talk) 13:54, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * That's OK. It would be very useful if you were to promote some hooks, especially older ones, because many of the approved hooks that have been around for a long time were originally reviewed by me, meaning that I cannot promote them. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:45, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and filled a prep area with older hooks. SL93 (talk) 16:26, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Since you have been reviewing older nominations, do you think you can review Template:Did you know nominations/Misty Talley? It's a less than 2,000 character article that I nominated which has been sitting there with no comments for a month now. SL93 (talk) 16:34, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Daniellia oliveri
Vanamonde (Talk) 00:01, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Swamp musk shrew
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Insect article
Hi, why don't we do another insect article? Would make a nice change. I see several orders not yet at GA, the best of them probably Neuroptera (funky antlions, superb owlflies, pest-eating lacewings, oddly mantis-like mantidflies), or Strepsiptera (twisted-wing flies) if you fancy something a bit weird! Other than those, Web-spinners have been in the news. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I was just thinking the same myself. What about Embioptera then? We were in Mexico some years ago and I saw a bush completely covered in webbing and I couldn't understand at the time what had formed it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:44, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Great! Embio-web-spinners it is. Let's enjoy it! Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:54, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * What with an accumulation of visitors and problems with my computer, I am not likely to get going on this till Thursday, or more likely the weekend, as it is the end of the round for the WikiCup and I will need to set up the next round. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:11, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:30, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

On the fossils, does Foottit say that the 2016 fossil species from Myanmar are not Embioptera? If so, we should remove them; if not, we should adjust the statement that earlier specimens weren't Embioptera. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The Myanmar specimens are Embiopterans according to Foottit. I guess there is some confusion with use of the word "earliest" for date of fossilisation as against date of discovery of the fossils. Knowledge evolves as new discoveries are made and new techniques invented. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:07, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

The families thing seems to be fixed, and the article looks and reads very well now. I think it's about ready? Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think so. I guess the bush I saw covered in webbing in Mexico was something different. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:12, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * All right, I'll nominate it. I've seen bushes covered in webbing in the Lake District so it's probably a tent caterpillar; there are several species, such as the Spindle ermine moth in Europe. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:58, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, there's another comment from Hanberke about no. of spp. on the talk page. Do you fancy actioning that? I think it's just a number of species plus one or two citations, which may well replace some of the existing ones. He says "in the lead" but of course it's the body as well. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:10, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I will check it this evening. It is quite understandable that different sources produce different figures considering they are made by various authorities at different dates. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Thanks, I'll hold off then. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:36, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Asplenium fontanum
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ornithodoros moubata
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

 * Thank you, how refreshing! I thought the arguments put forth by the opposers was unconvincing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:36, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pollichia campestris
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ugandan kob
valereee (talk) 00:01, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Uganda mangabey
valereee (talk) 00:02, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ugandan musk shrew
valereee (talk) 00:02, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Blue korhaan
valereee (talk) 12:02, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Guineo-Congolian region
valereee (talk) 00:01, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Brachystegia laurentii
valereee (talk) 00:02, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Julbernardia seretii
valereee (talk) 00:02, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Michelsonia
valereee (talk) 00:02, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Gilbertiodendron dewevrei
valereee (talk) 00:02, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Maputaland-Pondoland-Albany Hotspot
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Encephalartos natalensis
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Allophylus natalensis
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Jebel ech Chambi
valereee (talk) 12:01, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

August 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter



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WikiCup 2019 September newsletter
The fourth round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 454 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with over 400 points being eliminated, and all but two of the finalists having achieved an FA during the round. Casliber, our 2016 winner, was the highest point-scorer, followed by Enwebb and Lee Vilenski, who are both new to the competition. In fourth place was SounderBruce, a finalist last year. But all those points are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 11 featured articles. In addition, Adam Cuerden scored with 18 FPs, Lee Vilenski led the GA score with 8 GAs while Kosack performed 15 GA reviews. There were around 40 DYKs, 40 GARs and 31 GAs overall during round 4. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

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Template:Did you know nominations/Ełk riots
Please explain me who supported the nomination? One editor discusseed with the author and one was against. Both of them have no idea about the subject. The nomination belongs to the anti-Polish campaign by Icewhiz. Do you support the campaign?Xx236 (talk) 09:52, 2 September 2019 (UTC) It's Man bites dog (journalism). Bigger riots happen in many countries any day, but peaceful Poland is branded, when a Pole is killed. Please compare Poland and Northern Ireland or US racial riots. Xx236 (talk) 11:18, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Race to grow the hottest pepper
Hey, Cwmhiraeth! Would you be willing to take a look at the science stuff in the 'super-hots' section of this article? I'm not strong with science and would like to have someone who is check my work to make sure I haven't written something stupid or made wikilinks to the wrong articles or left out something important or whatever. --valereee (talk) 10:32, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . I read the article and nothing jumped out at me as being wrong. Personally, I would avoid these peppers like the plague. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:24, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! And me too -- I think it's a macho thing. Some guys apparently use scoville heat units to measure something besides capsaicin. :D --valereee (talk) 14:14, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ethiopian epauletted fruit bat
valereee (talk) 12:01, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/On Her Shoulders (film)
Cwmhiraeth, I was wondering whether you'd be willing to come back and re-review this nomination now that additional material has been added and a new hook proposed (the previous hooks have all been struck). If not, please let me know, and I'll call for a new reviewer. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:19, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Request for a new page review/patrol
Hello!

I was wondering if you would be so kind as to conduct a new page patrol/review for the Concierge Auctions article. I'm still relatively new at this and would love the feedback. Please let me know if you need anything from me!

Thanks, --Swunalightyear (talk) 23:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It seems to me from this copyvio tool that you have copied into the article a whole paragraph from this source which seems to be a copyright infringement. It should be OK if you put it in quotes. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:36, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, just added the quotes. What are the steps to take to get the article patrolled/reviewed? --Swunalightyear (talk) 22:26, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lake Aguelmame Sidi Ali
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of String Quartet in A major (Bliss)
Hello! Your submission of String Quartet in A major (Bliss) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 01:08, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Paleohydrology
Hello! Your submission of Paleohydrology at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 01:39, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sebkha el Melah
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Kihaule's mouse shrew
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Paleohydrology
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Fazzan Basin
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Requested move
Thank you for your help with closing requested move discussions! Just a gentle reminder that it helps if you close the RM before you rename a page. Your closure at Talk:Edward Keane (politician) ended up in the Malformed requests section of WP:RM. Thanks again!  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 09:51, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, but I was closing the discussion after making the move in case technical matters prevented me from making the move and I could not see how to circumvent them. I don't really like closing a discussion as "moved" until the article has actually been moved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:13, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean. What I do when I find there's some reason I can't make the page move is just list it at WP:RM. You're a page mover, so your main technical issue would be a fully move-protected page. The admins keep a good eye on the tech requests and usually move the page for you within a short period of time. What happened in this case was that during the time after you moved the page and the time when you actually closed the RM, the RMCD bot came along and "saw" that had been redirected to Edward Keane. Since redirects cannot be used as current titles in RMs, the bot listed the RM in the #Malformed requests section, which several editors monitor. So it would be appreciated if you would close the RMs before you move the pages. Hope this helps!  P. I. Ellsworth ,  ed.  put'r there 10:50, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * See Template talk:WikiProject Eastern Orthodox Church for a recent example.  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 11:07, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If I close the discussion before making the move, I can always undo my closure if I fail to complete the move. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Pleasure! and hey, we're page movers – we never fail! (well, almost never !>)  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 12:36, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I made a mistake again today. I thought I had closed the discussion before I made the Empire Earth page moves, but found some time later that I had previewed my edit but had not published it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:05, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I would guess that everyone who has closed RMs has done that; I know I have. Like other aspects of helping Wikipedia improve, it's a learning experience. Best thing to do is for you to enjoy it and have fun with it!  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 13:30, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for red yeast rice
Saddened to see that red yeast rice was promoted without the image but with a hook that makes no mention of why it is called red yeast rice. David notMD (talk) 10:39, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There are always more nominations with images than there are image slots to put them in! Interesting rice, but I didn't think the image added much to the hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Then perhaps the first (longer) hook that includes an explanation as to why called red yeast rice? David notMD (talk) 14:28, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of South Africa
valereee (talk) 12:02, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Long-tailed forest shrew
valereee (talk) 12:02, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Duthie's golden mole
valereee (talk) 12:02, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Princess Bride move close
Hi, Cwmhiraeth. Thank you for tackling some of the RM backlog. I want to ask about the Princess Bride close, though. The !votes were well split, but IMO the reasons were not. Only one oppose !vote gave an interpretation of the relevant guideline, one outright stated it was going against policy for personal preference, and two gave no supporting info at all, while the nominator and support votes cited the relevant guideline. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I decided that there was neither a strong consensus to move nor a strong consensus to keep the current title. In these circumstances I took it on myself to close it as "No consensus", but there is nothing to stop you initiating another discussion in the future if you wish. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:08, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

People hooks
Hi, is there any reason why you're not building sets with a 50/50 ratio on bios/non-bios?

Prep 1 is ready for a person image. Since I was involved in a few of them, I'd appreciate your promoting the image here. Some options:
 * Template:Did you know nominations/On Her Shoulders (film)
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Eva Mudocci
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Brigitte Kronauer
 * Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 14:47, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There is such a preponderance of approved non-bio hooks that I am tending to promote fewer bio hooks. The 50/50 ratio is a limit, not an objective. I will promote one of the hooks you mention to Prep1. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:30, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 17:24, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Newtonia hildebrandtii
Gatoclass (talk) 13:58, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cola greenwayi
Gatoclass (talk) 13:59, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Drypetes arguta
Gatoclass (talk) 13:59, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Microcoelia exilis
Gatoclass (talk) 14:00, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Zenker's fruit bat
— Maile (talk) 04:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Haumania liebrechtsiana
— Maile (talk) 04:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Empire Earth closure weirdness
Hi! Something weird is going on with Talk:Empire_Earth and Talk:Empire_Earth_(video_game). I think the closure went on the wrong page. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 13:15, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I made a mistake. I thought I had closed the discussion before I made the Empire Earth page moves, but found some time later that I had previewed my edit but had not published it. When I realised this, I closed the discussion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:27, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The second request has now been closed.  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 13:51, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm thoroughly confused. Were there two move proposals on different talk pages of which I only saw and belatedly closed one? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:59, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * When I looked at the talk page histories, the nom had opened only one RM at Talk:Empire Earth (video game). It appears that with, you replaced an RMCD bot notice with the RM that is on the (video game) talk page.  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 18:12, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, it would be useful if the bot was not so quick to do its stuff, but I had better be more careful in future. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * What I didn't understand was why the nom would open the discussion primarily to rename Empire Earth on the Empire Earth (video game) talk page? Fact is, the talk page where you closed it is where it should have been opened in the first place. So it appears you were ahead of it even though it might not seem so.  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 12:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, today I came across Delhi Dynamos FC which I could not move, presumably because it was move protected. So I listed it as an uncontested technical request. Was that the right thing to do? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, absolutely. Always a good idea to mention the request you granted, which I've done for you.  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 14:30, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Cwmhiraeth, in regard to your close of Talk:Delhi Dynamos FC, there are still some editors who seem to be totally against non-admin closure of any discussion. However, your close at that RM is fully supported by WP:RMNAC, so please keep up the good work!  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 16:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am trying to avoid the more contentious closures which are best done by administrators, but in the case of the "Delhi Dynamos FC", the consensus to move was clear, and I did not realise there would be a problem. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:42, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sanje mangabey
— Maile (talk) 14:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Parinari excelsa
— Maile (talk) 14:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Roper (company) DYK
I linked to a free to read HathiTrust link for the source in the DYK nomination and I hope that you're able to access it. SL93 (talk) 16:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Namib day gecko
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for String Quartet in A major (Bliss)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Dacrydium guillauminii
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello ,

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
 * Backlog

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
 * Coordinator

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for  making  the occasional  mistake while  others can learn from  their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
 * This month's refresher course

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
 * Deletion tags

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
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 * Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
 * Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent  enhancements to  the New Pages Feed and  features in the Curation  tool, and there are still more to  come. Due to the wealth  of information  now displayed by  ORES, reviewers are strongly  encouraged to  use the system now rather than Twinkle; it  will  also  correctly  populate the logs.
 * Not English
 * A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
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DYK for Enteromyxum scophthalmi
valereee (talk) 12:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Question
I was wondering if you could promote Template:Did you know nominations/Thuy Trang which now has an approved hook after the old one was pulled from the queue earlier. The nomination was never added back. I'm asking because of your promotion of Ziyad ibn Abihi and Hunter Kahn has been waiting much longer because of it not being added back. SL93 (talk) 05:24, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:32, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. SL93 (talk) 05:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Neuroptera, Snakefly
The webspinners are happily sorted, and I'm turning my attention to two other orders which could do with improvement, Neuroptera and Raphidioptera (snakeflies). Feel free to chip in as and when you feel like it and have a moment, there's no rush. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:26, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I will have a look at Raphidioptera, an order about which I currently know nothing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Are we about ready on Snakefly? Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:02, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I wonder; do you think the image of the larva shows an egg-case at lower right? It could be that of another insect, being predated, of course. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:20, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Asian garden dormouse
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Alexander's bush squirrel
valereee (talk) 00:03, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Angolan slender mongoose
valereee (talk) 12:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Halophila baillonis
valereee (talk) 00:02, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Zulu serotine
valereee (talk) 12:01, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lady Burton's rope squirrel
valereee (talk) 00:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas's rope squirrel
valereee (talk) 00:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

A Time of Terror
Thanks for promoting it but I was really hoping we could use the very striking cover image. Could it go in another set? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:13, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, I did not really think about using the image, because the nominated article was about the man, not the book, and the cover illustration seemed to be of a spider, and not anarchists. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:37, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Also about the book. The spider refers to the spider's web of intrigue of the plotters. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Schreber's yellow bat
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for White-bellied yellow bat
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Black-tailed tree rat
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Prep 4 quirky
Hi, I think Template:Did you know nominations/Ivan Golunov might do well as the quirky in Prep 4. Yoninah (talk) 20:18, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Never mind, promoted it. Yoninah (talk) 00:08, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Embioptera
Hello! Your submission of Embioptera at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:39, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pouteria adolfi-friedericii
valereee (talk) 00:02, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Celebes warty pig
valereee (talk) 00:02, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Copyright question
--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:43, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Replied. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:55, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Frank J, Thomas
Hi there - I see you added a "Notability" flag to Frank J. Thomas (printer), meaning it needs secondary sources. It does have two of them already - is there a minimum number to meet the notability criteria? (For what it's worth, he is extremely notable in the bookbinder, book arts, and private press community, although that right there is a pretty small community lol!) Bookgrrl holler/ lookee here 20:06, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not the number of references that is important but their quality. People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, independent of each other, and independent of the subject. You can see more at WP:NBIO. See what you can find to demonstrate his notability. (I'm going offline now). Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:16, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Rhoptropus bradfieldi
valereee (talk) 00:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

New message from Dot71
Dot71 (talk) 11:13, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Spooky Species reminder!
Hi, you've signed up to participate in the Spooky Species contest. The first official day of the contest is today, so you can start claiming points for improving the designated articles (also feel free to add articles to the table). The contest runs through Oct 31! Thanks for signing up! Enwebb (talk) 17:09, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

 * Thank you. That is much better! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:16, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Dune hairy-footed gerbil
valereee (talk) 00:02, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

re:Polish article
Nice job. Someone else reviewed it already, I did a minor c/e and added a request for clarinos for one minor issue. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:27, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Embioptera
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

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Falguera (Petrocoptis pseudoviscosa) image
I found an image called "https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Falguera.jpg" (and even "https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Falguera_(Petrocoptis_pseudoviscosa).jpg") on Commons, and added it to the Falguera article. User:PlatypeanArchcow removed it writing it was merely a fern. Honestly, I have no expertise with one way or the other, I might even believe if someone told me it was a bristlecone pine. I asked U:PA, but now see they only edit occasionally. Perhaps you might know, as the main author of the article? If it is a Falguera, we should probably put it back; if it isn't, we should probably rename the image file and redirect on Commons, or it will be found by other misinformed seekers of images. Could you help clear this up? --GRuban (talk) 21:23, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with the other editor, it is not the right plant and does look like a fern. There is an image of the related species of Petrocoptis crassifolia on the Spanish Wikipedia and it looks much more as I would expect, a little cushiony plant with small pink flowers. Thanks for your efforts, anyway. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:41, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I nominated the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Falguera_(Petrocoptis_pseudoviscosa).jpg redirect for deletion; should the Falguera.jpg image also be renamed, or is falguera a word that could also mean just fern? --GRuban (talk) 13:22, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Falgueres seems to be some taxonomic fern grouping. The English Wikipedia does not seem to have a page for the taxon, but the Catalan Wikipedia does, so I don't think the file needs renaming. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:45, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

After All
Any reason to not relist Talk:After_All_(The_Miracles_song)? Tbsock (Tbhotch away) (talk) 15:43, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * There was no consensus to move, I thought the oppose argument was sound, and nobody had made a comment for a week. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:15, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not a legitimate reason to not relist a page for another week, several RMs go through the same process. I'll request a Move Review in a few hours, you have been notified. © Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 18:12, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Relisting is optional. However, when I closed the review as "No consensus", I was unaware of the RFC here, which alters my evaluation of "no consensus".. I am prepared to revert my closure and relist the move request if you wish. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:02, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, if you look at the section below the RFC you'll see that it has been contested by numerous editors, and the discussion in the RFC itself clearly resulted in no consensus. That is no basis to be making moves of longstanding articles, and your close of this RM was fine IMHO (although obviously biased as I voted oppose!) Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 19:22, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I did notice that, and I would probably have closed the RfC as no consensus. Anyway, we will see what happens at the move review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:36, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Blue Pilgrims
Hello! Your submission of Blue Pilgrims at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:29, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Isotealia antarctica
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Tritoniella
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Psychoda alternata
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/US-Bangla Airlines Flight 211
Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sergiusz Toll
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Scutigerella immaculata
Samwalton9 (talk) 00:03, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Could you reopen and extend?
Hi! Re:this close. You may not have noticed but we had just come to a local consensus on a move solution, and sought outside opinion which sends us make to square one. We need time to discuss a new target. Gleeanon409 (talk) 11:29, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Relisted. There was strong opposition to overwriting the disambiguation page, but if you can find a new acceptable title, that's fine. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:38, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Blue Pilgrims
Hello! Your submission of Blue Pilgrims at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Northwestern Lumberman
Your input would be appreciated at the above DYK nomination. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:47, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Deathwatch beetle
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Deathwatch beetle you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Enwebb -- Enwebb (talk) 20:00, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Hildegarde's tomb bat
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Hildegarde's broad-headed mouse
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Hildegarde's shrew
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Naked-rumped tomb bat
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Podostemum ceratophyllum
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK Michael Hargrave
Hi ... I wouldn't usually request except for in this case. Unless a technical issue, may I kindly request to keep the image for dyk? Whispyhistory (talk) 08:16, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It's an interesting, historical picture but I basically omitted it because it did not identify which of the figures was him. There were several DYKs connected with medical students going to Bergen-Belsen. Did the group photograph for them appear on the main page, and has this image been used in any other DYK nominations? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:33, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply ...I may have become carried away with these students, but this is the last one for now. The big group image did appear on dyk, but this one has not. I'll clarify that Hargrave is second from right, the one with the glasses. His diary has this photo and has the names underneath in his own handwriting with MJ Hargrave under that figure second from the right, and this matches with the figure with glasses shaking hands with the dean in another picture, labelled with his name. If this appears complex, leave things as you have. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I've moved it to Prep 4 and included the image. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:21, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you...I will add the page number etc later. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:29, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * We got overruled, see the DYK discussion page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:19, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for trying. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:15, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Prep 6 Hook
Saw your tweak here on the Rockwood Lodge hook. I would prefer that it would be switched back to "by". One of the keys to the article is that Lambeau's purchase of Rockwood Lodge ultimately contributed to his downfall. Even though Lambeau technically had to get the board's approval for the purchase, all of the sources are clear that he led the purchase. Take Christl's source: "Lambeau was the driving force behind the purchase, partly because he was a visionary and partly because his players were having a hard time finding housing in Green Bay. But the Packers’ board of directors unanimously voted to authorize $32,500 for the purchase in May 1946." Let me know what you think. « Gonzo fan2007 <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 15:41, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, I have changed it back, but the reason I changed it in the first place was because it read as if he had purchased the property himself rather than the club purchasing it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:41, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem, that's what I guessed your reason was. I'm open to other wordings, just couldn't think of anything that wouldn't repeat "Packers". « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 18:22, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Trogoderma variabile
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
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From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:33, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Parkia bicolor
Gatoclass (talk) 01:08, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Question re QPQ
I got your note regarding my DYK proposal for Elisabeth Revol. I am sorry that I didnt do a QPQ : How can I check a DYK submission for a QPQ? I have a hard time doing a QPQ exactly because of that -:) Thank you !--Wuerzele (talk) 12:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Never mind, someone donated a review on your behalf so you do not need to do a review this time. The article is now in the queue and should appear on the main page on 27 October. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Cwmhiraeth, but honestly I do want to know how to check for a QPQ!--Wuerzele (talk) 13:04, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Basically you choose an article on the DYK nominations page that has not yet been reviewed, there are usually plenty near the bottom of the page. When you click "Review or comment" you will see a list of things you should check. You can use the "Reviewer's template", included in a green box, if you wish. You can use the link to "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" in the toolbox at top right to check for copyvios. It's not difficult, give it a try! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:39, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you again, Cwmhiraeth. I think I was misunderstood. I meant, that I do not know how to check if an editor who submits a DYK has submitted a QPQ. Do you look at their contribution history or what ?--Wuerzele (talk) 22:29, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * On the DYK nominations page you will see that most DYK hooks are followed by "*Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/...", if the nominator has done a QPQ. Clicking on that link shows you the QPQ review which means you can check whether it was adequate. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:05, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Reopening move discussion
Hi! You recently closed the move request at Talk:Nation (Bad Wolves album) as no consensus. This was the totally right choice based on the discussion, however I've realized that the discussion failed to account that the policy cited specifically notes that titles should not be invented https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Composition_titles)), but the current title is completely unused in any source. It seems silly to create a whole new move discussion to raise this point, but it certainly seems important to address. Would it be worth reopening/relisting to add this point, or should I start a new discussion later on?--Yaksar (let's chat) 02:40, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I have reopened and relisted the discussion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:15, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Deathwatch beetle
The article Deathwatch beetle you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Deathwatch beetle for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Enwebb -- Enwebb (talk) 15:41, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Brants's whistling rat
Hello! Your submission of Brants's whistling rat at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:09, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Dienerella filum
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Halloween darter
valereee (talk) 00:02, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

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Thom Bresh
Saw your vote here. I added multiple reliable sources to the article to make it quite clear that he handily passes WP:NMUSIC. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:41, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 November newsletter
The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is, who over the course of the competition has amassed 91 featured pictures, including 32 in the final round. Our finalists this year were:


 * 1) with 964 points
 * 2) with 899 points
 * 3) with 817 points
 * 4) with 691 points
 * 5) with 388 points
 * 6) with 146 points
 * 7) with 145 points
 * 8) with 74 points

All those who reached the final will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field. Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!


 * wins the featured article prize, for a total of 7 FAs during the course of the competition.
 * wins the good article prize, for 14 GAs in round 5.
 * wins the featured list prize, for 4 FLs overall.
 * wins the featured picture prize, for 91 FPs overall.
 * wins the topic prize, for 7 articles in good topics in round 2.
 * wins the DYK prize, for 14 did you know articles in round 5.
 * wins the ITN prize, for 7 in the news articles in round 1.
 * wins the reviewer prize, for 56 good article reviews in round 1.

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved much this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition, not forgetting User:Jarry1250, who runs the scoring bot.

We have opened a scoring discussion on whether the rules and scoring need adjustment. Please have your say. Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2020 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth 14:18, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Brants's whistling rat
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK units change
I thought I was responding to a request at WP:ERRORS, but the comment no longer applied because the DYK set switched over, and I edited your hook by mistake. The same logic should apply, but I wanted to let you know in case you objected to the change.  Kees08  (Talk)   01:18, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

October 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter



 * October 2019&mdash;Issue 007


 * Tree of Life


 * Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

{| role="presentation" class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:100%; background:#b6ecd0;" By request from another editor, this month I wrote an overview of ways that content is featured on Wikipedia. Below I have outlined some of the processes for getting content featured:
 * Alphabet Soup: Explaining DYK, GA, FA, and More

Did You Know (DYK)
What is it: A way for articles to appear on the main page of Wikipedia. A short hook in the format of "Did you know...that ___" presents unusual and interesting facts to the reader, hopefully making the reader want to click through to the article

How it works: The DYK process has fairly low barriers for participation. The eligibility criteria are few and relatively easy to meet. Some important guidelines: The process for creating the nomination is somewhat tedious. Instructions can be found here (official instructions) and here ("quick and nice" guide to DYK). Experience is the best teacher here, so don't be afraid to try and fail a few times. The last few DYK nominations I've done, however, have been with the help of SD0001's DYK-helper script, which makes the process a bit more streamlined (you create the template from a popup box on the article; created template is automatically transcluded to nominations page and article talk page)
 * To be eligible, article is either new (newly created or moved to mainspace), a 5x expansion, or passed a GA review. Its creation, expansion, or promotion to GA must have been in the past 7 days.
 * Article must be long enough, with more than 1,500 characters of prose (this doesn't include embedded lists)
 * I find Shubinator's DYKcheck script useful in determining whether an article is eligible for nomination.

Once your nomination is created and transcluded, it will need to be reviewed. The reviewer will check that the article meets the eligibility criteria, that the hook is short enough, cited, and interesting, and that other requirements are met, such as for images. If you've been credited with more than 5 DYKs, the reviewer will also check that you've reviewed someone else's nomination for each article that you nominate. This is called QPQ (quid pro quo). You can check how many credited DYKs you've had here to see if QPQ is required for you to nominate an article for DYK.

Good Article (GA)
What it is: A peer review process to determine that an article meets a set of criteria. This adds a symbol to the top of the article. About 1 in 200 articles on Wikipedia is a GA.

How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Anyone can nominate an article&mdash;you don't have to be a major contributor, though it is considered polite to inform the major contributors that you are nominating the article. The article is added to a queue to await a review. In the ToL, it seems that reviews happen pretty quickly, thanks to our dedicated members. Once the review begins, the reviewer will offer suggestions to help the article meet the 6 GA criteria. Upon addressing all concerns, the reviewer will pass the article, and voilà! Good Article!

Advice to a first-time nominator: Look at other Good Articles in related areas before nominating. If you're unsure about nominating, consider posting to the talk page of your project to see what other editors think. You can also have a more experienced editor co-nominate the article with you.

Featured Article (FA)
What it is: An exhaustive peer review to determine that an articles meets the criteria. This adds a to the top of the article. About 1 in 1,000 articles on Wikipedia is a FA.

How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Nominated articles are usually GAs already. Uninvolved editors can nominate, though the article's regular editors should be consulted first. Several editors will come by offering feedback, eventually supporting or opposing promotion to FA. A coordinator will determine if there is consensus to promote the article to FA. For an editor's first FA, spot checks to verify that the sources support the text are conducted.

Advice to a first-time nominator: The Featured Article Candidate (FAC) process is a bit intimidating, but several steps can make your first one easier (speaking as someone who has exactly one). If you also did the GA nomination of the article, you can ask the reviewer for "extra" feedback beyond the GA criteria. You can also formally request a peer review and/or a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors to check for content and mechanics. First-time nominators are encouraged to seek the help of a mentor for a higher likelihood of passing their first FAC.

Good and Featured Topics (GT and FT)
What it is: It took me a while to realize we even had GT and FT on Wikipedia, as they are not very common relative to GA and FA. Both GT and FT are collections of related articles of high quality (all articles at GA or FA, all lists at Featured List). GT/FT have to be at least 3 articles with no obvious gaps in coverage of the topic, along with other criteria. For GT, all articles have to be GA quality and all lists must be FL. For FT, at least half the articles must be FA or FL, with the remaining articles at GA.

How it works: Follow the nomination procedures for creating a new topic or adding an article to an existing topic. Other editors weigh in to support or oppose the proposal. Coordinators determine if there is consensus to promote to GT/FT.

Advice to a first-time nominator: There are very few GT/FT in Tree of Life (5 GT and 11 FT). Most of the legwork appears to be improving a cohesive set of articles to GA/FA.
 * }

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Getting the queue to 0
 * Coordinator
 * This month's refresher course
 * Tools
 * It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
 * It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
 * Reviewer Feedback
 * Second set of eyes
 * Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
 * Do be sure to have our talk page  on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
 * Arbitration Committee
 * Community Wish list

DYK for Rhynocoris longifrons
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Review
You removed a critic's excellent (because short!) review of Renatus Mészár's acting and voice as "unwanted". Perhaps the translation isn't exactly what the original means? "macht aus seinem Hagen ein auch stimmlich fulminant beglaubigtes Psychogramm", machine translation: "turns his Hagen into a psychogram that is also brilliantly vocally certified", - now "certified" is wrong, it's more "credible also by the voice", and fulminant is not "brilliant" but rather "strong, convincing" (and I thought it would be a word in English ...). - With more time, I'll look for something easier to translate. The same review has two sentences about him in other roles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Right, as ever: Fulminant is not just a word in English but an article of its own :)   ——  SN  54129  07:46, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I planned to promote the hook, but then noticed that you already had a hook in the set I was building. "A reviewer noted that managed a pychogram of Hagen with fulminant voice" is neither grammatically correct nor conveyed any useful information to me, and I had already asked you to rephrase it on the DYK nominations page. You are welcome to replace it with something comprehensible. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:50, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Can we discuss the limits of my English here, please. Is "Psychogramm" a word that doesn't translate, a "detailed study of the psychology of the character" perhaps? ... and how about "beglaubigt" meaning that the voice supported that psychological image of the character convincingly? Is perhaps "managed" too sloppy for "had the ability to deliver"? or what else? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Neither "pychogram" nor "fulminant" are words in common English use. I don't know what they mean and they may be a bit pretentious. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:42, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I understood that much but need what is used in common English. Which word do we have for "detailed study of the psychology of the character", - or do we need a long phrase? Which word for "fulminant" would please you? ... "explosive character"? ... or how would you describre a rich ringing voice? - but would people who read the source saying "fulminant" make the connection? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess he meant that Renatus Mészár had got inside the character well. Personally I would leave the sentence out (or quote it in German). Guten nacht! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:12, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the lesson. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Der Ring in Minden, appeared today, thank you for participating in finding the best hook, "... to listen to the music at the end" which would be a good motto ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Colin Larkin (writer) Move
Dear Cwmhiraeth. I received a notification by email about this page move -- first off I am a totally inexperienced wiki user so please don't think my question is stupid. In looking at your change I notice there are three Colin Larkin's - the writer (me), the footballer (not me) and Colin Larkin (also me). My daft question is -- will this affect the many existing references to my books or will the references be different. I was told by another editor a few years ago that if I were to add anything with my name I must always put Colin Larkin (writer). I have also noticed that in the Editing Section it always has the (writer) bit added. From now on does this continue or will it automatically disappear (like I said I have no idea how the actual software works), or if a book reference is added do I or any other Editor have to put the reference as Colin Larkin (writer) or Colin Larkin.

Apologies for labouring my question. If you do respond keep it simple please!

Kind regards Colin LarkinColin Larkin (talk) 15:51, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * A discussion was held on the talk page of your article as to whether the title "Colin Larkin (writer)" was necessary or whether Colin Larker was sufficient. It was decided that you were the "primary topic", that is readers would be more likely to be searching for you rather than anyone else with an identical name. As a result of that discussion I moved the page to the simple title Colin Larkin. I then created Colin Larkin (writer) as a redirect, which will automatically send readers to your article (if for example they had been told previously that that was the correct way to find your article). If you click on this alternative link you will be redirected to your proper article, but when you get there you may notice in small characters at top left (Redirected from Colin Larkin (writer))). Clicking on the "Colin Larkin (writer)" bit of this will show you what really is on the redirect page. The purpose of these complex manoeuvres is to retain the history of the articles for copyright reasons. I hope this explanation clarifies things. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:20, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking again at your question about book references, a simple "Colin Larkin" will suffice. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:27, 4 November 2019 (UTC)


 * . I may have misunderstood your question, but I will try to explain how the links work. There is an article about the writer Colin Larkin and a redirect Colin Larkin (writer) which sends the reader to the page Colin Larkin because they are about the same topic, so one is redundant. There is also an article on a footballer of the same name. That article is disambiguated by (footballer), so readers can find the correct article when looking for information about the footballer. These article titles do not affect the content of the articles in any externally significant way.
 * What happens in really simplified terms, is that if anyone puts the link Colin Larkin in a wikipedia article, the software makes a link that takes the user directly to the article Colin Larkin. If they write the link as Colin Larkin (writer), the software makes a link that goes to Colin Larkin (writer) and that makes a link to Colin Larkin with a delay in the order of microseconds, maybe less. It may happen that someone will substitute a direct link for a redirect, but from a practical point of view, no-one will notice the difference.
 * In answer to your final question, it does not matter much which link is used, they both go to the same place. Colin Larkin is recommended as it is the direct link. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 19:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, we were both answering the question at the same time. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:24, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

I was concerned that previous edits would disappear, but I understand the difference is the same.Colin Larkin (talk) 23:09, 4 November 2019 (UTC)Colin Larkin (talk) 23:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for your kind words. I thought it interesting about the bat roosting in the lichen and have nominated it for DYK with that fact as the hook. If the bat GA gets finished in time, the hook could be a two article collaboration. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:33, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Rauvolfia vomitoria
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/W. A. Fry
Hi, I reserved a slot for this in Prep 2. Could you promote it? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 13:59, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:10, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 18:53, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Spooky Species Barnstar

 * Thank you, and thank you also for taking the initiative in encouraging others to participate in the Tree of Life part of Wikipedia. The contest may have been too specialised for some, but I enjoyed it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:43, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Eyprepocnemis plorans
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Module moves
Hi Cwmhiraeth, thanks for closing Template_talk:LACMTA_icon. Just as a note, when you move modules a redirect does not get left behind and it breaks existing invocations. You just need to edit the relevant template to use the new name. Wug·a·po·des​ 01:28, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:44, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Holy Isle/Holy Island
You closed Talk:Holy Isle, Firth of Clyde as simply "No consensus" but I don't think that was appropriate. The reason for the move was that the island is called "Holy Island" and I cited multiple reliable sources for that (OS, EB and HHS are probably most authoritative). Nobody had opposed calling this "Holy Island" but one editor had opposed to using "Scotland" as the qualifier due to the existence of Eileach an Naoimh. Can I suggest you change this to "Consensus to call this "Holy Island" but no consensus to change the "Firth of Clyde" qualifier thus moved to Holy Island, Firth of Clyde".  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:15, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess you are right, and I will revise my close. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:46, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks this did seem like a case of WP:NOGOODOPTIONS where the more general qualifier was opposed but not the different name. Per WP:RENOM if someone wanted to propose using "Scotland" as the qualifier they should probably wait a while but if someone thinks "North Ayrshire" is best it could probably be nominated straight away.
 * Additionally when you close an RM as "No consensus" could you please use an edit summary describing that rather than "page not moved", since when I saw you're 1st close a while ago I thought it was closed as "Not moved", thanks.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:06, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I can do that. This RM had already been relisted once, so I did not want to relist it again. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It didn't need relisting since I'm OK with the qualifier but if someone else wanted to change that a new RM could be used.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 11:04, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Xyloterinus
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DYK for Rhynocoris marginatus
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DYK for Guibourtia tessmannii
valereee (talk) 00:01, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Talk:The Morning Show (American TV series)
I would encourage you to consider reclosing this as "Not moved" rather than "No consensus". A "No consensus" result applies when there are roughly equal !votes and arguments either way. In this case 7–2 against moving, with probably the stronger arguments on the "against moving" side. Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:49, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * According to the closing instructions, there are three possible outcomes to a requested move, "Consensus to not move", "No consensus" or "Moved", and in this case, "No consensus" is the best option in my opinion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:30, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not – "Consensus not to move" or "Not moved" is the correct "closing" outcome in this case. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Let's see what thinks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for asking! Seems as if the nom's !vote was forgotten above, and while vote counts are only a starting point, the oppose/support ratio was 7/3. Considering the rationales, the decision that there was no general agreement seems within the closer's discretion. "No consensus" is a good call.  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 19:57, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Meh – it's not just a "vote count": you're supposed to also look at the strength of the arguments. All things considered, there was a consensus was in favor of "not moving". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:11, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * is there any special reason for you to challenge a decision that essentially means that the article will not be renamed? What do you see as the point of contention for a decision that is in favor of the opposers' wishes and judgements?  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 21:41, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Accuracy. 2) A "no consensus" results means there's no prejeudice against a later RM along the same lines, while a "Not moved" would very much work against that. It was clear in this case, when you look at the discussion, and look at the timeline, that the ultimate consensus was very much against a move to just "TV series" disambiguation. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:17, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) You might be right; however, it still seems to be well within closer's discretion. 2) Meh right back atcha. Maybe there'll be a new RM, maybe not. If there is, and the nom garners consensus for a rename, then bye-bye current name. It might also result in either not moved or no consensus, as well. Wikipedians do not have crystal balls.  P. I. Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there 00:09, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

AFDs feedback
I noticed your request for feedback at wp:ORCP and others' direction that maybe ORCP purpose not being furthered there, and that discussion should be done at your Talk page. I hope you may find this vaguely helpful.

I do recognize your name, primarily from AFDs I think, and i have a favorable impression of your contributions/perspective. I browsed in your AFDs, looking especially for ones where we both might have commented. (Is there a way to search/list all AFDs where we intersected? There probably is but I don't currently know of one. Maybe a general edit intersection tool not specific to AFDs would find them pretty well.) And more looking at ones where the AFDd article was not deleted, so that I could see more.

Articles for deletion/List of tourist attractions in Helsinki is one where we both commented. Not saying this is better, but my commenting was stronger / more opinionated / possibly controversial to be criticizing the deletion nominator directly. Your comments there and at several others including: were not comments that I disagree with, but I will say they seem kind of follow-on-like, not hugely contributing, perhaps conservative. Given the ORCP discussion, i wonder if your AFD participation is maybe a bit too much with a mind to building a record of success. Relative to an emphasis on your trying to make a difference, to exercise leadership say, to influence outcomes, to save articles on topics worth saving, to see to the deletion of articles where deletion helps Wikipedia. I guess I would like to see, more than I do, some more tangible, more definable influences/effects of your participation in AFDs.
 * Articles for deletion/Alcatraz water tower
 * Articles for deletion/West Otago

Articles for deletion/Bridge over Fountain Creek (Manitou Avenue) is another where we agreed, your view there is perfectly wise. I went out of my way a little bit more there to do a little work, setting up an anchor target i guess, to help the outcome be chosen. In Articles for deletion/National Students' Union of India (kept) and Articles for deletion/List of fictional black conservatives in the United States (deleted) your !votes are quite reasonable. I'm not seeing where I actively disagree with you.

Of course later !votes in a discussion do help in the process, and I certainly do have pile-on type !votes in my record where I don't really add much. But I think my record of AFDs includes many where I had a substantial effect. Sometimes early on, directing the AFD to a relatively early closure. Sometimes late, where my disagreement and apparently decent-enough arguments have several times turned around decisions headed the other way. I know that I do bring some "points of view" to AFDs, not in a bad way (not i suppose wp:POV; it is okay/good for a person to have a point of view). One perspective that has emerged for me, in my participation, is my often disagreeing with thrust towards outright deletion, when alternatives to deletion do exist or could exist. I sometimes create a sensible-to-have list-article so that a given article at AFD can be merged to there and have an appropriately low level of coverage in wikipedia, rather than being deleted. I take seriously the value of saving past edits/information in the contributions that may only be preserved in edit histories at what become redirects, say, but might become useful again when a topic is revived. To communicate and better develop views that I found myself repeating, I eventually created a few deletion-related essays including wp:TNTTNT and wp:ITSACASTLE, and i have some more in the works. Both of those were themselves nominated for deletion but kept, and I think those deletion discussions were helpful for communicating/influencing some of the editors whose opinions I was generally disagreeing with. What I am asserting is that I have developed some perspectives that I think are worth sharing, and I am trying to influence the general course of AFDs being nominated or not, and what happens if they are, and editors involved. My sampling of your AFDs is small and I would probably not be seeing generalities that may be valid, that reflect some bigger thrust(s) of your AFD contributions. I think my commenting this way is making me sound arrogant and proud of my own stuff, and perhaps that is truish and baddish, but still I think that should not completely negate my general comment here. Maybe it boils down to me being a bit more inclined towards rashness and boldness, and liking more over-the-top discourse, vs. your appearing to be more middle-of-the-pack but being experienced and wise, and who knows maybe more influential, perhaps, i don't know. In general I do have a good opinion of you, and I think your participation is constructive, and I just want say, I guess, is that I'd like to see more of you. I'd like to see where you are coming from, what you are doing, what your vision is, as you are now quite experienced and capable of having and sharing "vision", whatever that may be.

I did see one AFD where you agreed with Keeping, partly to help a new contributor, to not give them an unnecessarily bad early experience in Wikipedia. I heartily agree with sentiment of that; i think we oughta get some statement/ratification of that into AFD policy (perhaps a nearly automatic exemption/deferral for a good faith new contributor's effort, with a tickler list for the topics to be revisited a year in the future?).

But even if this comment is fairish, it doesn't necessarily transfer over to anything about succeeding in an RFA. I am not an admin, am not greatly familiar with RFAs, can't comment on which "way to be" with AFDs is better for RFA purposes. Also, maybe it is best not to reveal personal political views, say, and likewise it could arguably be better to have indiscernable points of view. But I think there is obviously enough wrong with so many individual AFDs and with the overall processes of AFD, that you _should_ have some points of view to share. Again, probably this doesn't help, but I hope it might be. And I am glad you are contributing and that you are considering becoming an admin and I admire that you are out there asking for feedback. cheers, and good luck, --Doncram (talk) 21:25, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your detailed and very thoughtful comments. I think your insight into my participation in AfD is spot on. I tend to be cautious and not step out of line, only choosing to participate in AFDs where I am generally in agreement with the views of others. Basically I am an article creator and feel empathy with other article creators who find their newly created article proposed for deletion. I take part in AfDs as a duty and to increase my understanding of notability issues rather than because I want to get rid of dubious articles. I do not find myself in complete agreement with some of the criteria, but realise that they have to be adhered to. For example, there could be a sand and gravel company with a vast turnover that does not attract media attention and therefore does not meet our criteria even though it is of importance to the economy. In contrast, I remember one small company I nominated at AfD, a startup manufacturer of women's bras that had attracted attention for introducing the apparently novel idea of sizing the cups in half sizes; that one was retained! I would like to see some sort of turnover/size/employee number/length of establishment criteria introduced. And I avoid anything to do with modern culture, especially music, and sportspeople. So basically, I am not sufficiently interested in deletion to spend a great deal of time delving deep into articles that have been nominated at AfD. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:49, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, i am glad you don't mind my comments, and thanks for chatting! Thinking more, i guess by this i learn more about myself, and how i view/participate in AFD.  I skim the listings in the "places and transportation" category there (and less often in "organizations"), and i look for any that jump out to me as probably about a legitimate topic.  Then I am willing to put in a !vote and comment, without doing much research besides a very quick google search.  Less often will i do much more research.  I am thinking i "add value" sometimes from having relatively informed perspective about some things, or from doing a search on a likely alternative name that the deletion nominator has ignored, or similar.  Not about sportspeople or music!  I guess i like to "make a splash" and make a difference by turning a deletion discussion around to save some article, maybe being sort of argumentative, seeing AFDs as forums where it is okay-to-be-a-bit-contentious, in a mini-competition that will be ended by a judge soon.  I figure regulars can handle a little sharp elbowing, but I do feel badly for newish good-faith editors who are having all of their work up for deletion.  I am inclined to be an "inclusionist", though I understand it is necessary to prune away too-trivial, too-promotional stuff, just that is more for others than me.  And about your way of participating, I think you actually are very helpful in your way, coming in as a solid, reasonable !vote that actually is helping to really settle many decisions.  I think you have accumulated some goodwill and reputation from being conservative and solid, when you do step in.  It takes multiple people playing different roles for the AFD function to get done.  I do think you are not merely "piling on" to run up a good score in wp:AFDSTATS.  For your future RFA, maybe you can describe how you are helping constructively in this way, which would go towards explaining your very high "match rate" with final outcomes, as opposed to someone merely trying to get a high rate.  Or I would be happy to comment along these lines, say in a co-nomination statement or an early !voter in your future RFA.  So let me know if/when that is happening, if i could be any help.  I am glad u r contributing in AFD.  Hey, i guess you are from Wales.  I bin dare meself, well actually just on the train from London to the ferry point towards Ireland.  It is pretty! cheers, --Doncram (talk) 19:50, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I have visited the United States twice, for a total of about three hours! My experience was restricted to a transit hall without any seating at an airport at Orlando, and a brief trip to a mailbox across the border from British Columbia with Canadian friends who used the US postal service in preference to the Canadian postal service. I was looking at your user page and agree with much of what you are saying there. Editor acquisition and retention is important to the project and is not helped by what you describe as "the bullying and harassment, which goes on too often". However, I don't think I want to discuss that just now, because it is quite pertinent to my RfA, if that goes ahead. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:02, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Elatobium abietinum
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RM error
Please be careful not to turn on the "move without redirect" option when closing RMs. That's generally only used in round-robin moves, and in the rare case that an old name must be suppressed for some policy reason. I re-created Talk:Ingroups and outgroups as a. Post-move talk page redirects should exist so that incoming links (e.g. to the RMs themselves) do not break and turn red. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:24, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * That particular move was complicated by the assortment of spellings, with or without hyphens and plurals, of ingroups and outgroups. In general, when making round robin moves, I don't leave redirects when initiating any of the moves. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:51, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Fortunately, we have a bot that fixes double-redirs after usually just a few minutes. Manual fixing of various spelling redirs isn't needed (other than perhaps tweaks to certain rcat templates). I know what you mean with round-robins, it's just in this case the end result needed a redir from the original page to new page  orig. talk page to new talk page. :-)  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:01, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Prep 3
Hi, there's a special occasion hook waiting to go into Prep 3. I moved some things around to make room for it. Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:41, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll wait until the new hook has been given a tick. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

ORCP
Cwmhiraeth, I wanted to respond to your ORCP poll but since I don't have an assessment of your chances I thought it'd be better placed here. I would urge you to run, if you had a well-respected nominator and made an up-front statement about the prior interaction issues. I was one of those who did oppose you then for that reason but I would change that to Support today. If you wait until, Spring and can say truthfully then "it was two years ago and I haven't had any problems since then" (something I have no doubt would then be true) I think many would also change. The need for the tools was well-documented then and perhaps even more acute now. I wish you the best of luck. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:29, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * +1, FWIW. I think you'd be in my "I thought you already were an admin" stack, if not for the fact that I have a userscript that IDs admins, via a CSS tweak. Given that the Fram mess kind of tore the community asunder for a while (see how it dominates the Q&A for the current ArbCom candidates!), and much time has passed, I would think that it's less of an issue today than it was last time. And if you and TRM get along fine these days, that's also water under the bridge (indeed, it's evidence of letting bygones be bygones and of patching up relations to get on with collaborative editing).  People are apt to want to see a broader mopping rationale than "it'll help with DYK", though.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:08, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for your comments. They are much in line with comments I have received from people I have consulted privately. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:21, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!
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DYK for Drypetes gerrardii
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DYK for Usnea trichodea
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Tricolored bat
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Module move has broken a huge number of pages.
Your move of module:HS listed building to Module:HS listed building row has broken a huge number of pages -- essentially every page for local lists of listed buildings in Scotland, that are the prime subjects of the Wiki Loves Monuments campaign. See eg List of listed buildings in Gairloch, Highland for a typical example.

I have asked at WP:VP whether anyone can fix this. (thread) Jheald (talk) 14:33, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


 * OK. I've fixed the template that was calling the module, so that should have fixed the main cases.  Just seeing whether there's anything else that links to the old name. This is what you should have done; and you shouldn't have ticked the "no redirect" box until you were sure that nothing else linked to the old name.Jheald (talk) 14:49, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I was contacted about moving modules higher up this talk page where I was told "when you move modules a redirect does not get left behind", but I obviously misunderstood what I was told. I had probably better not attempt to move modules in future. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 16:33, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


 * No problem. It's not something I've done either.  But after this experience, the protocol should probably be "1. move module, creating redirect; 2. change all uses of the module to the new name; 3. delete the old name".   Of course for 3 you probably have to be an admin.  No harm done.  Cheers, Jheald (talk) 16:39, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Elatobium abietinum
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Euplatypus parallelus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Marsh fritillary
Hey, Cwmhiraeth! Would you take a look at the second paragraph of the lead for this article? I'm trying to write a PotD blurb (trying to learn enough about the other main page sections to be useful responding to errors reports for them) and the lead is discussing the butterfly being endangered, but nowhere in the sections am I finding that the butterfly has been actually designated as endangered. Isn't that some sort of official thing? --valereee (talk) 13:17, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Rather typically, for an organism that occurs in Britain, the English language source (#2) for that paragraph is based on its perceived conservation status in Britain. On a global scale, the IUCN lists it as being of least concern. The IUCN position is widely accepted, but different countries/states often produce their own similar lists for their own national/state populations. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I've updated it! --valereee (talk) 16:40, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Tell Qudadi
Cwmhiraeth, it looks like there has been progress on this nomination since your review, and I was wondering if you could stop by and see whether the latest hook has done the trick and also has the necessary source citation(s). Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:32, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Profenusa thomsoni
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lathrolestes luteolator
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Deathwatch beetle
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Page moves
Thank you for your edits. Would ask one thing of you, though... please check talk pages before you move a page. There is an ongoing requested move discussion at Talk:Guy Lafleur (sculpture) that must be closed as "moved" before those pages should be renamed. Thanks again for your consideration in this!  Paine Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there  09:53, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I realised that afterwards and stopped moving pages. I was really looking for any backlog of requests to move pages over redirects. Can you direct me to the place where these are listed? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:03, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * There are two sections at WP:RM that you can monitor, the technical requests section and the backlog section. It also helps to read the closing instructions. Also, take a look at Italic title, which will explain how to deal with titles that are in italics. Again, thank you – especially for wanting to work with the backlog! Sometimes it gets pretty backed up.  Paine Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there  10:52, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Should also mention to you a third section at WP:RM, the elapsed section. If you don't find any requests in the tech or backlog sections that you want to close, those requests in the elapsed section have been active for at least seven days and can also be closed.  Paine Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there  16:40, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Appreciation

 * Thank you. There seems to have been a bit of a pub crawl around Green Men recently. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:15, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Epiricania melanoleuca
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Problem with close of Litter RM
Hi, I have an issue with the close of the requested move of Litter. It was non admin closed after only a short period of discussion. I do not see why it did not merit being relisted. There was an outstanding concern raised by one of the people participating in the RM that was not answered and could have affected the outcome. Overall it seems to have been extremely premature for a non-administrator to close the RM and it was far from a SNOW consensus.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:24, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The move discussion had been open for eight days, there were three well-argued "oppose"s and there had been no comments for the last six days. It seemed a clear case of "no consensus" to me, however if you wish, I will reopen and relist it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:45, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It was a good close. Re-open it and I'll close it meself :p  !!!  (or possibly just !vote that way...)  ——  SN  54129  19:06, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think it was very clear. None of the oppose !votes gave a single policy-based argument whatsoever. In fact RedSlash seems to have ignored the entire point behind the move and misinterpreted it to something else.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:51, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Christmas darter
Up for collaborating for another GA about a holiday darter? I feel like we need the set. Maybe there's also a Valentine's darter... Enwebb (talk) 21:07, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure. I have just been working on the Christmas white-eye, which is destined for DYK. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:10, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Xylosandrus crassiusculus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Prep 4
Hi, I'm very surprised that you promoted this hook and this image for Template:Did you know nominations/Warwick Road, Earl's Court. It's not such an interesting picture, and the hook isn't hooky at all (another building slated for demolition?). Why did you decide on this instead of ALT2 with the alt picture? Alternately, ALT2 would work in a quirky slot without a picture. Yoninah (talk) 11:07, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * At first I was going to include the hook in Prep 2 without an image, but I changed my mind as this looked such a grim, prison-like, block of flats. Listed buildings in the UK are normally the best examples of architectural merit, and the idea of listing this block so that it would avoid demolition appealed to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:39, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand, but do people outside the UK appreciate the significance here? Yoninah (talk) 12:44, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know. You are welcome to demote it if you wish. I think this is the best hook and I don't particularly favour promoting alt2 and the other image. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:56, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, you were the promoter so that's why I asked you. We'll leave it. We'll see if anyone else comments. By the way, thanks for filling in the sets I left open. We seem to have a dearth of people hooks, but of the ones we have, most are women, which can make really unbalanced sets. Yoninah (talk) 14:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, there is a dearth of biographies, so I am reducing to three per set rather than four, two women and a man! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:30, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Peleng tarsier
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DYK nomination of Selenothrips rubrocinctus
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How to protect my page
My page are being edited my some people, how do I protect it? Mamallarnarashimavarman (talk) 05:27, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has open access and anyone can edit pages. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:17, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Epiricania melanoleuca
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pyrilla perpusilla
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Assessment ratings
I've noted that you tend to importance-assess your articles as 'Low'. Don't be modest; any animal or plant that is a pest, a weed, a crop, a medicinal, an ornamental, or in any way interesting to people should be assessed at least as 'Mid'. In WP:PLANTS, nearly 90% of all plants are assessed as 'Low', and even as I am going through and reassessing, only a tiny fraction of them are 'Mids'. Most taxa are completely uninteresting to Wikipedia's readership. Abductive (reasoning) 00:26, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * OK. I have always thought of species as of low importance, families as of mid importance and higher level taxa as high importance. Is the rating system spelt out somewhere? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:35, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:WikiProject Plants/Assessment says "The criteria used for rating article importance are not meant to be an absolute or canonical view of how significant the topic is. Rather, they attempt to gauge the probability of the average reader of Wikipedia needing to look up the topic (and thus the immediate need to have a suitably well-written article on it). Thus, subjects with greater popular notability may be rated higher than topics which are arguably more "important" but which are of interest primarily to students of botany." The same text appears at WP:Animals, but for the word botany being swapped out of zoology. So, a farmer in India needs to look up a weird new bug eating his crop, and spends some hard-earned money at an internet cafe. We are here to help him. Abductive  (reasoning) 07:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:21, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Amrasca biguttula biguttula
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:09, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

MacLean Gilmour
Dear Cwmhiraeth, could you check the article MacLean Gilmour to which you placed a template for improvement. Thanks in advance and for your valuable time. Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco (talk) 05:35, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Christmas white-eye
Hello! Your submission of Christmas white-eye at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 16:59, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Qaleh Kharabeh, Gorgan
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 03:09, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Gorgan Plain
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 03:09, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Christmas white-eye in prep
What do you think of "a secondary population" rather than "a small second population"? Yoninah (talk) 10:21, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I should be happy with that. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:39, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yoninah (talk) 14:23, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Snakefly GAN
The Snakefly GAN seems well stuck, our reviewer hasn't edited all this month. We could ask for it to be put back in the queue. Chiswick Chap (talk) 00:07, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * That might be a good thing. I had forgotten all about it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:13, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, it's back in the queue. If it begins over the holiday, maybe you could mumble something into the GA2 page and we'll get to work on it around the New Year. Meanwhile, Happy Christmas! Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:52, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Happy Christmas to you, too! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:01, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Mid-Atlantic accent RM
Hello, do you mind reconsidering your closing statement of Talk:Mid-Atlantic accent? I too see no consensus to move, but I see no consensus not to move either. Nardog (talk) 02:51, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I have changed the closing statement. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Sarah Gruber
In this edit, why did you say she's Italian? It isn't in the article. Her name sounds more German/Austrian than Italian, and if she's "from club ASKÖ SBC Linz", that's also Austrian. (Northern Austrian.) I didn't find better evidence than that. Art LaPella (talk) 07:12, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure where I got it from but I think it is correct as you can see here. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:33, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

POTD with no target article
It is highly irregular to create a POTD with no bold linked target article as you did in Template:POTD/2019-12-31. We usually skip these FPs until such time that an appropriate article is created to support POTD appearance. --- C &amp; C  (Coffeeandcrumbs) 11:15, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It's rather bad luck if a featured picture has no target article and is therefore not allowed to be POTD. Having spent some time writing the blurb, I hope this one will be allowed to stand. The picture does after all appear in the Gustav Klimt article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:34, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Hook promotions
Hi, would you be able to promote Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Pozzolo to Prep 4? I reserved a slot for it. Also, would you be able to promote Template:Did you know nominations/Reuven Elbaz sometime during Hanukkah (December 23-30)? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:51, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 21:47, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Moving to Special Occasion holding area
Can you move Template:Did you know nominations/Harrison family of Virginia to Special Occasion holding area for April 1 of ALT 2. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:06, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done, I think! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:29, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:42, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Special occasion hooks needing promotion
Hi, I reserved a slot in Prep 3 for Template:Did you know nominations/Angels' Carol, and a slot in Prep 6 for Template:Did you know nominations/Und es waren Hirten in derselben Gegend, BWV 248 II. Would you be able to promote them? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:29, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Just added a cn tag to the December 26 one, so it isn't ready yet. Yoninah (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Appasus japonicus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cosmopolites sordidus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
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 * This month's refresher course

DYK for Christmas white-eye
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Snakefly GAN
Sainsf has started to review this at GAN. That makes 3 GAs for me to address ... when I'm back on 28th... if you feel like starting you're very welcome! CC. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:47, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Peace Dove
Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. ― Buster7  &#9742;   14:47, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Good luck
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:#fff; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px; " class="plainlinks"> 豊かな十年へようこそ/WELCOME TO THE D20s Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune. このミラPはCwmhiraethたちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます！ フレフレ、みんなの未来！/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE! ミラP 02:37, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

"WikiCup/History/2018/Round1" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect WikiCup/History/2018/Round1. Since you had some involvement with the WikiCup/History/2018/Round1 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. ミラP 18:06, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

 * Thanks Whispyhistory, though most of my insect articles are about crop pests rather than endangered insects! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:57, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * My ignorance. On behalf of crop pests too. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:01, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hemiberlesia lataniae
Hello! Your submission of Hemiberlesia lataniae at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Achaea (talk) 20:10, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Eriocampa ovata
--valereee (talk) 00:02, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 December 2019
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DYK for Christmas darter
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup
Well I fixed it, I am not sure exactly how but I verified that all names listed so far works. Sometimes I think this place works more on Magic than code ;) MPJ-DK (talk) 20:17, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Iris lortetii
Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 22:42, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * hmmmmmm --evrik (talk) 02:50, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

The DYK Barnstar

 * Thanks evrik, I like to try to keep things moving along! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:20, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Deporaus marginatus
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Prep 5
Hi, we have a special occasion hook for this set: Template:Did you know nominations/Miquel Bauçà. I reviewed it and reserved a slot for it. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for promoting it! Yoninah (talk) 11:48, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
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– Utopes (talk) 08:48, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

You ever considered becoming an admin? Just curious, as I feel you'd be great in the role. Regardless, happy new year! Utopes (talk) 08:48, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Utopes. It's a splendid lunar calendar! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:54, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Cheers! So, have you considered becoming an admin though? Utopes (talk) 16:26, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The matter is under consideration. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 16:30, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2020 WikiCup!
Happy New Year, Happy New Decade and Happy New WikiCup! The competition begins today and all article creators, expanders and improvers are welcome to take part. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page. We are relaxing the rule that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2020 will count; now to be eligible for points in the competition, you must have completed significant work on the content at some time! Any questions on the rules or on anything else connected to the Cup should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are, , and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:43, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Beech Grove I
Saw your featured picture page, and nice write-up, and I added the image to its location page. Have you thought of creating an article for Beech Grove I? You can pretty much use most of the information from the featured picture itself. Never saw the painting before, and it's a beauty. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 19:51, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Actually I found it difficult to find much information about the picture, and any article I might have created would have been very stubby. However there are a number of featured pictures that were promoted years ago and that have never been used as "Picture of the Day" because they have no articles, or nothing but a stub, and I am trying to write articles for some of these. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:14, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

WikiCup
Hi and thanks for running the WikiCup! I didn't get a notification that it started, has it yet? Thank you. Puddleglum <sup style="font-family:impact;color:silver;"> 2.0  20:07, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Prep 3 special occasion hook
Hi, I reserved a slot in Prep 3 for Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Artemus Ogletree. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 01:07, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

WAM 2019 Postcard
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About the Wikicup
So, if I create, edit or expand an article, I automatically gain points or do I need to say I edited that article? Davi Moura Araújo 475 (talk) 11:44, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If you create or expand an article and it qualifies for DYK, then you can claim the points on your submissions page when the article appears on the main page. I see you have created "State Park of The Dunes ( Parque Estadual das Dunas )" as a draft. It is about 400 bytes in length at the moment and needs to be at least 1500 bytes in order to qualify for DYK. You will then need to nominate it at DYK within seven days of moving it into mainspace. Another way of achieving a DYK is expanding an existing short stub, as I did in Amazônia National Park, then nominating it for DYK. There are other ways of scoring points in the WikiCup, but DYK is probably the easiest for a beginner. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:13, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Proposed move of Mid-Atlantic accent to Transatlantic accent
Hello, In the page move proposal that you closed, I've noticed, funnily enough, that the final editor who voted "oppose" actually thought that the proposal was in reference to the Mid-Atlantic American English rather than the Mid-Atlantic accent. He notes that he "once heard this accent referred to as the Delawarean Accent". To me, at least, this is a clear reference to the Mid-Atlantic American English accent, which is also known as the Delaware Valley accent, is centered around the Delaware Bay, and is spoken in the entire state of Delaware.

This editor's understandable confusion only further demonstrates the need to re-titled the "Mid-Atlantic accent" page by moving it from the unnecessarily confusing "Mid-Atlantic accent" to the more commonly sourced "Transatlantic accent." The page move was proposed in part to avoid confusion over the similarly named dialect, and yet, bizarrely, the move was thwarted because one of the very editors themselves who voted to "oppose" the move was confused and believed the article was about Mid-Atlantic American English. Confusion or not (and I'm not trying to be anti-democratic or attack anyone here), the fact that the final vote was decided by a now indefinitely blocked editor who couldn't even be bothered to actually read and comprehend the article (and has a history of blanking entire pages that involve accents) is a little ridiculous, no? Ultimately, however, the proposal was also based on the sources, the majority of which overwhelming refer to the "Transatlantic accent" rather than the "Mid-Atlantic accent". Madreterra (talk) 20:42, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I see it was three weeks ago that I closed the survey as "no consensus", so it is a bit late now to reopen it and relist, and there were other opposes as well. However, you could make another proposed move, pointing out the defect in the previous one, if you wished. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:19, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Rollback
Apologies, I was aiming to click something else but fat fingers got in the way. 08:33, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Pelophylax caralitanus
--valereee (talk) 00:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for Diocalandra frumenti
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Phenacoccus solenopsis
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Phenacoccus solenopsis
Thank you for creating the article on the pest species Phenacoccus solenopsis. Please remember to importance-assess such articles as at least Mid importance. Abductive (reasoning) 18:41, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Savannah darter
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

CJ Bott requested move
Hi Cwmhiraeth. I just wanted to quickly seek some clarification on a requested move you recently closed. It appears you did so after rather less than the allotted seven days? Also I would have expected a relist was more appropriate in the circumstances, given that one of the two oppose !votes was mere WP:IDONTLIKEIT? I'd be interested to get your thoughts ahead of a possible review. Thanks, Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 14:07, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I think if you work it out carefully, I closed after seven days and five hours, and there was certainly no consensus among the participants of the discussion. If the use of her initials rather than her full name becomes more established, you can make another move proposal for the article in due course. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Move review for Catherine Bott (footballer)
An editor has asked for a Move review of Catherine Bott (footballer). Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 12:36, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Malayan banded pitta
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, Irene. Keep up the good work! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:43, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Snooker season page moves
Hi Cwmhiraeth, Thank you for implementing the page moves agreed in the discussion Talk:2019–2020 snooker season. In your closing statement you said Moved to format "1968–69 snooker season" but you have used format "1968–1969 snooker season". Was there a particular reason for this? MOS:DATERANGE states that the end year can have two digits if they are consecutive years, and this has been acknowledged in the discussion. The consensus seems to have been for the two-digit end-year format, and this would also be consistent with other sports season titles. Thanks, Rodney Baggins (talk) 19:42, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I made an error, and worked backwards to 2004 before I realised it. The earlier seasons are in the correct format, and I will correct the ones I got wrong. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:49, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok that's great. I'll be updating the bold reiterations and next/previous links. Thanks again. Rodney Baggins (talk) 19:56, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Selenothrips rubrocinctus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Kamchatka RM
Can you please expand on your "no consensus" close at Talk:Kamchatka_Peninsula, to explain how exactly you found "no consensus"? Or, better yet, reconsider your decision? I see the nom and three supports, and two opposes. By the numbers that's 4 to 2, and usually indicates consensus favoring a move, though it's important to look at the arguments themselves and weigh them according to how well they are based in policy. On the support side, the nom cites primary topic, which is unchallenged, and rhetorically asks why not go with the simpler title, implying WP:CONCISE. The first support implies COMMONNAME ("a majority of websites use 'Kamchatka' alone."). The second support (yours truly) explicitly cites COMMONNAME and provides a link to usage in the reliable source NY Times for basis. The third support cites ATDAB. On the oppose side (again, there are only two) the first oppose argues disambiguation is necessary because there are other Kamchatka uses (which are disambiguated). However, the Support claim that this use is primary (and therefore the disambiguation with "Peninsula" is unnecessary) is unchallenged. The second oppose is even weaker, merely asserting the longer title is "clearer" (that's not a WP:CRITERIA - many titles should be changed to be made "clearer" if that were a legitimate title consideration) and repeating the undisputed fact that it's ambiguous (there is a dab page for Kamchatka) again without challenging the primary topic claim. Maybe I missed something, and obviously I'm biased, but with my objectivity hat on I see a strong policy-based consensus on the Support side here, and a very weak WP:JDLI oppose. So, please, elaborate, or reconsider. Thanks. --В²C ☎ 19:30, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not agree with your analysis and find the first OPPOSE argument persuasive, however I am quite prepared to reopen the discussion and relist it, which I will do now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:46, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Christmas Island
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Aepus marinus
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DYK for Hemiberlesia lataniae
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Massif des Maures
--valereee (talk) 12:02, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

WAM 2019 Postcard


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DYK for Leptoglossus gonagra
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Rhinogobius flumineus
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Richard Rudzitis
Hello! Your submission of Richard Rudzitis at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:36, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Acanthochitona crinita
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Article move/name change for Syrian Civil War -> Syrian civil war
The infobox at that page - or Template:Syrian Civil War infobox - Does it need to be moved to a new name too?... Also, there are a multitude of connected articles with Syrian Civil War (see their titles) not sure what should be done with them. Shearonink (talk) 16:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * In the page move review, there was a consensus to move Syrian Civil War -> Syrian civil war, so I performed the move. The discussion centred on the capitalisation issues and was not concerned with the infobox or titles of other related articles. Further discussions may be needed with regard to them. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:56, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Acropyga exsanguis
Hello! Your submission of Acropyga exsanguis at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Achaea (talk) 19:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Scale insect
Well I think we're about done with the scales, then? Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:25, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. It seemed to me that it was written in American English, so I used that when I thought of it, but there are sure to be things I missed, and my spellchecker doesn't pick up. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:57, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, it makes very little difference, just a letter here or there, and it'll give the reviewer something to do. I'll nominate it now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's under review already! Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:16, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the hook. "Billions of dollars' worth of damage", or "the source of both crimson and scarlet" might be more exciting? Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Please add an alternative hook or two. I really enjoyed working on that group, they are such interesting insects! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:26, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Added, I hope in the right way. Any more pests you fancy working on? Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I want to improve Mealybug, but that would just be more of the same, and otherwise its just things I come across when looking for more information like Polychaete. Do you have any suggestions? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Slug? Not a bad article already (a lot of work by The Snail Lady, Invertzoo). Bed bug? also in quite a good state. A jolly subject. I can write about bed bugs in Moby Dick! Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:29, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Let's go for bed bug. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:33, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * No scratching now! :}  Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:58, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Cimicidae
There's a bit of a WP:FORK issue between "Cimex" (slightly more on the biology) and "Bed bug" (rather more on diagnosis, prevention, treatment). Perhaps the second article should be renamed "Bed bug infestation" or something of that sort; unfortunately it redirects to "Bed bug", I'd say that was the wrong way around. There's a third article, Bed bug control techniques. WP:NOTHOWTO also intrudes; and I suspect WP:MEDRS will rear its ugly head. How many articles should there be? Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:14, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I will start looking at it tomorrow. I'm hoping that I can find some information on other species and the genus in general, but it may not be easy. Let's see how it goes. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:29, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I did a little on Cimex but I have now changed to Cimicidae which is more to my taste, and the Taylor article is a useful resource. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:06, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Very wise. I'll join you there. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit stuck. There isn't a lot on fossils; I'm unsure how much to say about the human side as there's only one species that really bothers us. Ideas? Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:58, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * We've had visitors for a few days, so I haven't been doing much. I'll do some more tomorrow and need to cite or remove some information. Do you fancy expanding the lead? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I have been neglecting Cimicidae. Do you think it is ready for GAN? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think so. If the reviewer wants more on humans we can fix it but given the other articles there is little cause to say much here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:42, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The article is now under review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:04, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll keep an eye on it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Blancoa
--valereee (talk) 12:01, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Lady Victoria Campbell
Re the above, I've just noticed a problem. Please could you kindly strike out ALT1 to prevent it from being mistakenly put on the main page? The nominator has replaced it with ALT2 "membership of" (instead of membership in") because it is a British English article. My apologies for not striking it earlier. Storye book (talk) 11:25, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I have done that, but it was probably not necessary because it was ALT2 that I had promoted. I was more concerned about the "islands throughout Argyll", when I would have preferred "islands of Argyll". Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:43, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Yes I fully agree with you about "islands of Argyll" being better. I would be happy for it to be changed if Ruby2010 agrees.  Storye book (talk) 12:07, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Perfectly fine with me, thank you! Ruby2010 (talk) 21:41, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Laem Phak Bia
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DYK for Pontobdella muricata
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DYK for Doubleband surgeonfish
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DYK for Richard Rudzitis
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DYK for Acanthurus dussumieri
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DYK nomination of Actinopyga capillata
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February 2020
Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus, as you did to Thomas Brierley. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains underway. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 16:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind advice. You will find a discussion on the proposed move at Talk:Thomas Brierley where I found there was a consensus to move the article, closed the discussion (which had been open for the requisite week) and performed the move. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sincere apologies for that, somehow missed the talk page move discussion there. Before doing that move revert, I did not find the phrase "grave cipher" in the article, your move only indicated "better title" for the edit summary and you did seem to have some controversy on earlier page move matters e.g. User talk:Cwmhiraeth. Nevertheless your move was clearly justified and not vandalism, I retract the above message and have restored the page to Thomas Brierley grave cipher per consensus. Dl2000 (talk) 18:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Your apologies are accepted. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:00, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon
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DYK for Zanardinia
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DYK for Acropyga exsanguis
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DYK for Geococcus coffeae
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DYK for Blue pitta
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of John Papworth (plasterer)
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Move in Syrian Civil War
Hi, I think the closing here should have been "no consensus" because if we are going to use "civil war" instead of "Civil War", then we should move all articles with "Civil War" to "civil war" so that the "civil war" become consistent in all articles.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 22:21, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Acetabularia acetabulum
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Cwmhiraeth, thanks for promoting the Cymmer Colliery explosion DYK to the prep queue, much appreciated. RLO1729 (talk) 08:38, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Pearl District
Hi - thanks for the close here. One nit, though. Only one editor said that USPLACE applies here. The other three, myself included, disagreed, and in fact there is no neighborhood convention in USPLACE. Any chance you could edit your close to reflect that? USPLACE is always highly charged, and it would be nice to reflect how editors actually discussed it here. Thanks! Dohn joe (talk) 16:14, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Pedicularis palustris
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK
Cwmhiraeth, I just noticed you were starting a second set. Thank you so much. There's a special occasion hook that should go into either Prep 3 or Prep 4, in case you're going to complete that new set; if Prep 3 is better timing for it, that might affect what goes where. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:14, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Right, I will jiggle them around a bit and incorporate it in an image slot. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:20, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for John Papworth (plasterer)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Callipappus australis
Gatoclass (talk) 12:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Actinopyga capillata
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/A1206 road (Great Britain)
Cwmhiraeth, I was wondering whether you'd be interested in returning to your review here, as a new hook has been proposed and needs assessing. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 08:18, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Prep 2
Hi, I don't know if you realize that you put five U.S. hooks into this set. I don't have time to move things around for another 26 hours. also wants us to use only 3 bios in each set. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 13:34, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I went ahead and moved some of the hooks to the next set so Prep 2 won't be promoted yet. Yoninah (talk) 13:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) I did notice, when I had completed the set, that it was overbiased towards the US, and I will move a hook or two around . As for the bios, the proportion of these has increased, mostly bios of men, and I will be promoting 3 or 4 as seems best to fit into each set. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:48, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Cwmhiraeth, Yoninah, I just did a count of the Approved bios, and it's even between bios and non-bios at the moment—we have the same number of each. So, going forward, we should probably go for four bios in each set wherever possible until the ratio changes, which is entirely dependent on which nominations get approved. (There are 144 still waiting for approval.) BlueMoonset (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, . Yoninah (talk) 17:31, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * There seems to me to be a great dearth of biographies. When building Prep6 today, I couldn't find a suitable biographical hook to complete it, and it currently has only two biographies. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:56, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I also noticed this. Yoninah (talk) 12:46, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Cwmhiraeth, Yoninah, as the ratio has changed, so too should the composition of the sets. You two are closest to the issue, so if bios get hard to find, use your best judgment to adjust the level as needed—it sounds like two (or maybe even one) might be the right number at the moment, but it could go higher if a spate of bios are approved, or stay low for a while. Four is always the ceiling, but the floor, ultimately, can even be zero if there aren't any suitable bios. Similarly, I've noticed that many sets recently have fewer than the recommended half (four) U.S. hooks; I think all of the current queue and prep sets come in at under that number. This may change, but for now we have to deal with what we have in the way of approved hooks, especially since it is a small percentage of the total nominations. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Pedicularis sylvatica
--valereee (talk) 12:02, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Bispira brunnea
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Yeinot Bitan
Cwmhiraeth, I was wondering whether you could take a look at the article and ALT3—you were the original reviewer—and see whether both are ready for a new tick. I had some issues (as I noted) that prevented me from promoting the nomination recently, and I believe they have been addressed, but I think if I went back to it then you, me, and Yoninah would all be unable to promote it, whereas if you make the determination, I'd still be able to do the promotion. Thank you very much, both for this, and for all of the work you've been doing building prep sets. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:57, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Mesocyclops longisetus
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Phyllodoce lineata
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 * Not a problem per se, just a request to rephrase the caption. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Pterophorus pentadactyla
--valereee (talk) 00:01, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Sinustrombus sinuatus
— Wug·a·po·des​ 03:06, 22 February 2020 (UTC) 00:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Newsteadia floccosa
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2020 (UTC)