User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 11

Unattached account
What to do if there is an unattached account (not SUL) like #97475? --Tito Dutta (contact) 17:13, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking.— cyberpower ChatLimited Access 17:19, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, IRC is a better choice to communicate for future reference as it allows for unrestricted discussions. As for the request, if the unattached account(s), have made 0 edits on that local wikipedia, is greater than a year old, AND has no SUL, it can be created.  If it fails any of the three (some discretion allowed on the second one), it should be declined as taken and if the SUL exists, it should be declined as SUL Taken.  In this case it can be created, and I have done so for you.— cyberpower ChatLimited Access 17:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I went to IRC, got no reply (most probably everyone was busy in other windows! )! --Tito Dutta (contact) 17:34, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Protected Page Editor updates
Which page should I follow (if any) to find out if the Protected Page Editor proposal has been accepted? Debresser (talk) 11:35, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * WT:Protected Page Editor— cyberpower ChatLimited Access 13:20, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You will be receiving an email from me, soon, about this matter. I'll send it in the morning (my time). Regards. — ΛΧΣ  21  07:51, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Cyberbot I making file description pages of deleted files
Hi. Cyberbot I continues to make file description pages of deleted files. For example: File:Tunneling 2013-04-07 13-58.jpg. Can you fix this, please? --MZMcBride (talk) 12:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) That image shouldn't be on the bad image list and 2) yes I can, but not now.— cyberpower ChatOnline 12:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why you feel qualified to assess whether that image should be on the bad image list.
 * It looks like the issue with your bot was brought up in July 2012. Given that's been about nine months without a fix, I've gone ahead and disabled this task. Please do not re-enable this task until this issue is fixed. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm saying deleted images shouldn't be on the list.— cyberpower ChatOnline 22:08, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Deleted images are regularly removed from the list by User:ListManBot. However, because the description pages are being recreated by Cyberbot, the images aren't getting removed (since technically, they aren't deleted). It took a salt just to get the bot to stop recreating File:Defäkation.jpg so that ListManBot had time to remove it from the list. It would also be helpful if you could get a list of files which have been recreated by Cyberbot so that they can be deleted and removed from the list. - Kingpin13 (talk) 22:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * YIKES! I didn't know it was causing that many issues.  Anyway, I'm working on the fix right now, and I hope to have it ready in a few moments.— cyberpower ChatOnline 22:27, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I had a very enlightening discussion with Scottywong.— cyberpower ChatOnline 22:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Won't adding the &nocreate parameter fix this? Legoktm (talk) 22:29, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Because some files may be on a shared repository which means the actual page doesn't exist locally and the bot has to create it to tag it.— cyberpower ChatOnline 22:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm also getting rid of some inefficiencies now that I have a thorough understanding of X!'s code.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 22:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Admin Nominators

 * I couldn't. My nominations would probably cause an RfA to fail.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 23:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Official Charts sites
Just wanted to make sure you noticed this comment of mine. If you need help understanding how to navigate the OCC sites, let me know.&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:34, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I saw it on IRC. Thanks.  So far I have gotten to locating where the links are, but I had a similar concern in mind.  Thanks for offering to help.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 22:42, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Peachy
I've downloaded the alpha for an off-Wikipedia site I am developing. I'll let you know how I like it.--v/r - TP 16:45, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. A lot of work left to be done on it though.— cyberpower <sup style="color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access 17:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

You've got mail!
v/r - TP 21:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I'm very flattered thank you.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:35, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Cyberbot II
Not sure why, but Cyberbot II keeps tagging Suzanne Collins with a PC-changes template even though it's semi-protected.King Jakob  C2 23:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Because it's PC1 protected.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 23:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No it isn't. King Jakob  C2 23:46, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * yes it is.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 23:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * 17:55, 9 January 2013 Mr. Stradivarius configured pending changes settings for Suzanne Collins [Accept: require "autoconfirmed" permission] (Persistent vandalism) (hist)
 * It is PC1 protected, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Suzanne+Collins GB fan 23:51, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

IRC
Do you frequent #wikipedia-en on irc? I could use some real time help with getting setup on labs. little green rosetta $central scrutinizer (talk)$ 15:46, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You're asking the wrong person. :-) I need help myself getting setup on labs.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 17:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Cyberbot II
I have blocked Cyberbot II for duplicating PC protection templates (check last edits). Post something on my talk when the problem is resolved and you want me to lift the block. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 10:19, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Bots
Thank you, although it would appear only chartstats.com is down - chartarchive.org is currently running. By the way, are you aware that your current signature links to user:c678 instead of user:cyberpower678?-- Laun  chba  ller  02:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, as Kww points out, both sites are unacceptable as it is a copyvio. They will both need to be redirected to OCC.  To answer your question, yes I am aware.  It's to save on my sig length.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:53, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, so what are we going to do about the songs that the archive doesn't cover (for no week does it display the full #100; Get Over It (MC Kinky song) made #95, for example)?-- Laun  chba  ller  02:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know. The request was to initially relink chart archive to chart stat which is redirecting back to chart archive.  Since this site is a copyvio, it needs to be redirected to OCC which has the rights to the information.  I've been working on this bot script for quite some time trying to figure how to handle each type of URL.  I'll think of something before I deploy the script.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Is there anywhere on OCC that I can redirect chartarchive.org/c/ links to?— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 16:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. I found it.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 16:36, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Gently Trouted
You have been ever so gently trouted for: a silly revert on another users talk page.

Regarding...
 * "Latest revision as of 21:34, 4 May 2013 (edit) (undo) Cyberpower678"  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Salvidrim&oldid=553567660&diff=prev

I assume it had to do with— "...allows [cyberpower678] to revert numerous edits with just a single click of a button..." —an automation error/collateral damage.

Please restore.

Thanks,

--Kevjonesin (talk) 02:10, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I will admit I am rather... surprised by this! Trouts seem to be in order. :) · Salvidrim!  ·  &#9993;  02:21, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * oops. :p— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Bot will die in 15 days, please contact operator
So I am. ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 00:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yea. Sorry.  Forgot to remove that.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 00:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * All clear.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 00:51, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Bot scripts
I have noticed its edits on my watchlist.-- Laun  chba  ller  08:09, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Your bot does something wrong
As it seems, your bot User:Cyberbot II is doing some things wrong.

1.) He replaces the links from chartarchive.org with these from officialcharts.com, but due to his work, many links are broken now with chart positions over 75 not being available on the website of the OCC. Examples: DJ Manian, Black Sabbath discography, Everybody Hurts, Who Wants to Be Alone (all not possbile to fix). The bot should mark them as dead instead of replacing them because the given information is not accessible on the OCC site.
 * I didn't know that that information wasn't available. The OCC has been very aggressive about that site.  It is also mentioned by someone else that under no circumstance should we be linking to sites that breach another companies claim on information like that.  That said they had to be moved.  I'm not expert at which songs made top 75 and which one's fell out so I can't fix it myself.  The best way to fix it would be to simply undo and correct the edit by Cyberbot II if it did indeed change a link that was below the top 75.  I tried my best to make sure Cyberbot did it's job correctly by verifying a lot of edits, but I couldn't check all of them, so I will need help to check the ones that do need fixing.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 11:45, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The OCC website provides information until chart position 75 as an accessible archive, and until position 100 if you archive the current chart site at webcitation.org or such a site. The chartarchive site listed also these positions from 76 to 100. So I will have to check all the bot edits... Will cost me a huge amount of time, but what do I not do for Wikipedia? ;) --Ali1610 (talk) 11:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Well don't kill yourself over it. I'll be glad to help with some cleanup.  The script was only meant to be run once.  :-)— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 12:01, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If you want to help, you sure can. There are six different kinds of links that have to be fixed:
 * 1.) The link is a normal reference in the text and the chart position is #75 or less: it is not necessary to change anything
 * 2.) The link is a normal reference in the text and the chart position is higher than #75, the chart entry was January 1994 or later: make a list, I will search possible new references later
 * 3.) The link is a normal reference in the text and the chart position is higher than #75, the chart entry was earlier than January 1994: a has to be inserted instead of the link, there is no other source available
 * 4.) The link is part of a charttable (for example Who's Crying Now) and the chart position is #75 or less: Use the following chart template instead of the whole chart entry: (example: here)
 * 5.) The link is part of a charttable and the chart position is higher than #75, the chart entry was January 1994 or later: see 2.)
 * 6.) The link is part of a charttable and the chart position is higher than #75, the chart entry was earlier than January 1994: see 3.)
 * I hope that did not confuse you... --Ali1610 (talk) 13:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, that did. I'm quite clueless right now.— cyberpower <sup style="color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access 13:18, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Just tell me what exactly you did not understand.. or is it the differences between the six cases? Maybe you want to make only one of these ones? --Ali1610 (talk) 13:41, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The link being part of a chart table.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 13:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, so please go on Who's Crying Now and then to the Chart section. As you can see there is a table. in the left column there is the chart where the song has charted and on the right there is the highest chart position of the song. Look at the edit page of this site to see that there are charts inserted without any template and one by using the template Template:Singlechart. Ths template for a chart position 75 or less can be created with the following code, which then replaces the insertion without a link for this country:
 * The fields with brackets around have to be replaced with the things inside these brackets, so instead of (peak position) you insert at this field the highest chart position the track gained (this should have stood there before, of course), and you also have to replace the artist name. If there are more than one artists who were part of the song, only the main artist has to be inserted. Any questions? --Ali1610 (talk) 14:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The fields with brackets around have to be replaced with the things inside these brackets, so instead of (peak position) you insert at this field the highest chart position the track gained (this should have stood there before, of course), and you also have to replace the artist name. If there are more than one artists who were part of the song, only the main artist has to be inserted. Any questions? --Ali1610 (talk) 14:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

2.) Why the bot is replacing these links in general? The site owner removed all information that was criticized by the OCC (as said by the owner), and the information that is available there at the moment is still useful because it contains chart positions that are difficult to find anywhere else! I see no reason to replace these links as the copyright violation seems to be resolved. --Ali1610 (talk) 10:31, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * They are still a copyright violation. The whole site is.  It's still using information from OCC's database.  And my above response clarifies that statement.  It was also made in a bot request by the owner I believe.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 11:44, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I cannot judge that... But you are right, maybe better to remove these links as if the OCC would convict Wikipedia for not doing it. --Ali1610 (talk) 11:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Additional adminstats field
Hi there,

Would it be possible please for you to extend the adminstats system to include users unblocked, as well as blocked and reblocked? Many thanks! —  Scott  •  talk  08:54, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It already has blocked and reblocked but I'll see if I can add unblocked to it.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 10:24, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * My fault this has been stirred up. I've been wondering about it for a while, and posted at AN. Scott beat me to letting you know. Peridon (talk) 14:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I have deployed the update.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:03, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! —  Scott  •  talk  14:56, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Cyberbot II: yes, the article was protected
Here, your bot removed the Pending Changes template with an edit summary stating "article is not protected". Yes, it was; in fact it had just been semiprotected; it's not really any help that the bot removes the PC template without putting in the semi padlock icon. On the contrary, it gave me an edit conflict as I was trying (quite speedily, really) to exchange the PC template for the semi template, which was the full action that needed doing. Of course that wasn't a big problem, but I can think of smoother ways of doing it. If the bot can't perform both actions at once (removing one template, adding another), it would perhaps make sense to program it to give the protecting admin five minutes or so to fix the templates themselves? Bishonen &#124; talk 23:13, 9 May 2013 (UTC).
 * Cyberbot II is only designed to look at PC protection and nothing else. It removes it the moment it's no longer protected, and adds it the moment it's protected, and it cannot detect if the protection is changed, just whether it's PC protected or not.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 03:14, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, in that case it would surely make sense to have the bot wait five minutes to give the un-PCing admin a chance to fix the templates themselves and avoid edit conflicts. Don't you think so? The combination of removing PC with installing semiprotection is surely more common than the mere removal of PC on its own. Bishonen &#124; talk 04:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC).
 * Strange. I never got pinged when you responded.  Anyway, I think a person doesn't need 5 minutes to change a template.  Considering it runs every minute I could add a 45 second sleep timer.  That should be sufficient time to fix the template, as you now have 45-105 seconds to make the change.  Although, why not just use Twinkle to simply tag it and let Cyberbot II remove the PC tag?— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Cyberpower, you're a template kid, and a code kid altogether, you know. Some admins need to look up what template to use, preview to see that it produces the right kind of little padlock, and think the whole deal through some before hesitantly hitting Save. As for Twinkle and simply tag it, don't even go there. I know that your kind of people and mine don't understand each other well, but I assure you that mine exist. I may actually have been a little optimistic in suggesting five minutes, because currently at least, my browser performs all these operations rather slowly. ;-) Bishonen &#124; talk 10:05, 13 May 2013 (UTC).
 * Cyberpower, I do think that Cyberbot II performs a useful function and perfectly fits the case where PC is changed to "no protection". I think though that a bot would be useful that also dealt with the case where PC is changed to semi-prot, as this is far from an unusual event. Since Wikipedia is a collaborative project, it is important that we remain very sensitive to other editors' skills and knowledge and appreciate that many editors - especially some of our clueful admins - bring huge value to the encyclopedia without having more than a rudimentary grasp of technical issues. The onus therefore always falls on those such as yourself to adapt the technology to cope with the whole spectrum of skill-sets that exists among our community. It really isn't helpful to tell a very long-term editor and admin that you think a person doesn't need 5 minutes to change a template. The best of our programmers will be asking those editors how long it takes them to change a template, not promoting their own guesswork above actual research. I'm sorry if that comes across as unduly critical; I don't mean to be harsh, but one common criticism of the technical community is that it is remote from the rest of the project, and I'm very sensitive when that impression seems to be reinforced. The long term technical solution is obviously to have a bot that deals with both PC->NP and PC->SP, but I'm sure the community is grateful for Cyberbot II; any steps you can take to improve it would clearly be appreciated. --RexxS (talk) 14:18, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll put a wait timer in there. But now, I just received a flood of warnings coming Cyberbot that I'm trying to deal with.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 14:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I am sick of the way cyberpower gets treated here. Rexx, did you notice the way Bish. came at cyber? He was right to react in that way. I do not find his comment harsh. 98.178.201.212 (talk) 18:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I think you accidentally got logged out.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 18:13, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * @98.178.201.212: I'm sorry to hear you're sick, anonymous coward. I do hope you can understand that both Bishonen and I actually share with Cyberpower a desire to make our encyclopedia the best it can be. Bish had a couple of problems and reported them: (1) misleading edit summary "article is not protected"; (2) her edit conflict with the bot. Bish isn't the most tech-savvy admin, but is still very savvy otherwise, so it's a legitimate concern, but not a big deal. I do dabble in technical matters at times and wanted to suggest some best practice to Cyberpower per my previous edit summary. I'm really pleased that he's receptive to the feedback. That's all there is to see here; time to move along? --RexxS (talk) 22:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Echoed. But right now, I'm trying to make my bot stable again.  I'm getting floods of error messages and now my bot has stalled.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 22:58, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

ACC
Hi Cyberpower678, just to let you know, you've had a request reserved on the tool for more than a day. I was just wondering if that was intentional? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:29, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I have? I'll take care of it.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 11:57, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Yet another additional adminstats field
Hello, could you also add page imports to the admin stats? This feature has been around for a while, and I'm almost definitely the person who uses it the most, but I didn't see the point of adding it until Hut 8.5's active admin stats came out, as it gave an inaccurate value for the number of admin actions I've done. Also, is it worth updating this page about bugs/feature requests for the tool? It says to go on JIRA; I tried that yesterday but It didn't work. Thanks! Graham 87 07:21, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Well the reason JIRA didn't work yesterday is because the Toolserver was down... :/ Legoktm (talk) 07:33, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Just so you're aware, those stats don't use any data from cyberpower's bot. Adding imports as a field in the adminstats template won't change the counts. <b style="color:#FF0000;">Hut 8.5</b> 08:25, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * First, I don't use JIRA for feature requests because of the condition both JIRA and TS are in, second that page doesn't belong to me and thirdly, I can try to add it. I'll look into it tonight.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 12:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Everything is setup. Adminstats sure has grown in size.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 14:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Graham 87 14:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, but it's not in the big table at the bottom showing all the admins and their actions. Graham 87 14:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That's not my table. You'll need to talk to User:Hut 8.5 about that.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 15:03, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * As I said above, that table does not use any data from the admin stats templates maintained by cyberpower, and adding imports to the templates will not make any difference to the table. The table gets its data from User:JamesR/AdminStats, if you want imports to be included then you will have to talk to User:JamesR (though he seems to be absent at the moment). The table is updated manually, so your count won't go up as soon as the source data is changed anyway. <b style="color:#FF0000;">Hut 8.5</b> 15:56, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed your message above. I've pinged James. Graham 87 16:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Feel free to use adminstats on your user or talk page.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 18:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but it's not really my style. You should have gotten a mention notification from me about this thread; if not, here's the relevant talk page. Graham 87 03:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That's the beauty of it. You can change the style.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I just meant that I'm not in to showing things like that off on my user page. Most of my edits and admin actions are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. Graham 87 05:39, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

admin stats
You are probably watching AN but in case not, I see that the field for pages imported for me says. My guess is that it isn't populated if there are none, but I presume it should say zero. Hmmm, it disappeared while writing this.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  14:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That's normal. It's a new field I just added and I had Cyberbot fill it.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 14:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

PC tagging of redirects
Hey there! Please see this edit where the bot added the white padlock. Because it was a redirect, as soon as there's something on the page before the redirect, the site immediately treats the hash symbol as the start of the list. For this one, I've added the {nobots} tag, but longer term can the bot just skip redirects that have Pending changes, because the lock really isn't needed. Alternatively, can it add the padlock to the bottom of a redirect rather than the top. Thanks ! (PS, I love the bot's work!) Ged  UK  11:23, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you like the bot. I'm a little confused at what's wrong though.  The redirect still works as it should.  Can you lease clarify?— cyberpower <sup style="color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access 13:08, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If the template is at the top of the page, then it breaks the redirect - the #REDIRECT text has to be the very first thing on the page. What you see in this revision isn't actually a redirect, but a numbered list containing a wikilink. — <span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 14:52, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that. If you look at the last two edits to the page, my two edits, I did the same thing. I put {nobots} first, and it broke the redirect. When I moved it after the redirect, the redirect worked again. But really there's no point having a padlock on a redirect page because nobody ever really stays on the page but goes to the target. Ged  UK  21:07, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll have to have it detect redirects now. Why is a redirect even PCd in the first place.  No change is usually made to maintain a redirect.  Why not semi?— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 21:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Delay before tagging protected pages
Hi Cyberpower. :) Hope you're doing ok. I have a request for you - could you implement a delay before Cyberbot II tags pages with pp-pc1? The speed at which the bot tags the pages is very impressive, but it is confusing some of our human contributors. Human errors, when combined with the fast reaction time of the bot, are leading to unnecessary edits on a few pages.

Looking through the bot's last 50 contribs, I can spot six articles where the bot has made unnecessary edits. Five of them were due to the pp-pc1 template was removed by vandalism or by simple error. In these cases Cyberbot II then re-tagged the pages, but in their broken/vandalised state. This adds an extra edit when all that is needed is to simply revert, and also has the added downside of getting in the way of humans who want to revert the edits. In two of the five cases I linked to above, editors reverted Cyberbot II thinking they were actually reverting a vandal edit. I think the prize has to go to the Gregor Mendel article edits, where the bot started edit-warring with the reverter, and somehow the page ended up with two pp-pc1 templates. :) The sixth article was this one where I realised that I altered the protection settings of a page and realised that I had left pending changes on by mistake. This led to the bot having to revert itself.

All of Cyberbot II's edits to these articles could have been avoided with a slight delay between the edit requiring action and the bot edit. Of the articles listed above, the one with the slowest human reaction time (the time between the vandalism/mistake edit and the revert) was the Library article, which took five minutes. So the time to wait definitely needs to be more than five minutes. I suggest 20 minutes, as most reverts of obvious vandalism will have been done by then, and I don't think many people will mind waiting 20 minutes before the pages are tagged. Sooo... would this be hard to implement? It would be a very useful feature for admins and for recent change patrollers. — <span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 14:04, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I think 20 minutes is excessive. I can have the bot wait 5 minutes before editing.  It was mentioned in the threads above as well too.  I'm rewriting the script at the moment.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 14:13, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If it's only five minutes then it might have still caused the same mistake at the Library article. And looking back a little further I see that the reaction time was 8 minutes at Federal Reserve System. Would you be able to stomach a 10-minute wait? This would have caught all of the unnecessary edits made in the last week (apart from this one which we shouldn't worry about), so it's probably a good ballpark figure. — <span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 14:46, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * ok.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 14:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Adminstats
Sorry to trouble you, but I cannot seem to get to work at User:Mkdw/sandbox4. Other admins had rumoured disruption happening on the tool server, but I wanted to ask if I had merely done it wrong or if you knew for certain. Thanks so much, Mkdw talk 17:37, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Let me go check the logs.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 18:02, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Server S1 failed on toolserver. Adminstats has a fail safe in such events.  I'll send it through another run.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 18:12, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks so much for your help. Mkdw talk 18:27, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Your RfX report
Your bot seems to have blanked your RfX report. Is that supposed to happen? AutomaticStrikeout ?  02:11, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ummm.... Not really.  That's never happened before.  Looking into now.  I would assume it should fix itself momentarily.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:15, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, although it has been like that for several hours now. AutomaticStrikeout ?  02:21, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The code broke. Debugging now.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I guess it is good that it happened when no RfX were active. AutomaticStrikeout ?  02:29, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I am such an idiot. During the migration to labs, I forgot to change the file path of files it depended on when there are no RfXs to deal with.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:30, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll take your word for it. I have no clue about that stuff. You may think you are an idiot, but it would be a lot worse if Wikipedia depended on me for the RfX report. AutomaticStrikeout ?  02:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL. Should be fixed now.  If it works as it should, the bot should restore the template in about 7 minutes from now.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:39, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

There is a reply waiting for you at...
Bot requests/Archive 86

The Transhumanist 10:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Signature on simplewiki
Your [//simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Simple_talk&diff=prev&oldid=4423843#Sandbox_cleaning signature] there doesn't say who you are. It just says "Hello!". This is because en: has to be changed to :en:, or it displays in the interwiki box on the left. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 17:21, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 17:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Creating and updating Template:Adminstats at Wikimedia Commons
Hi cyberpower, would it be possible for you creating and regularly updating this template at Commons? (Of course with the commons sysop stats.) If you don't like bureaucracy, I can create the bot request for you at Bots/Requests. Thanks in advance. -- Rillke (talk) 13:54, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Can I simply edit User:cyberbot I/Adminstats? -- Rillke (talk) 13:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Simply adding a runpage will not work. I have to extend the script for commons.  I will get to it soon and notify you when it's ready.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 21:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. -- Rillke (talk) 01:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Heads up...
I've left a reply for you at Bot requests/Archive 86 The Transhumanist 08:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to watch
Would you mind writing (or posting) drafts of the (redlink delinker) script on a subpage so I (and any others who wish to) can watch as you develop it? The Transhumanist 08:18, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 *  Theopolisme ( talk )  20:10, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ?? I don't usually post rough drafts of scripts as I consider that a time waster.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 21:53, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Just interested in the endeavor, is all. But if it's too much trouble, don't worry about it.  By the way, what method of checking the redlinks will you be using? The Transhumanist 18:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The best way I see is to load each page and check if it exists. I will then cache it to conserve resources.  I'm still working on the code structure.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 19:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Adminstats
Hi, you might not have noticed, but the template up above seems to say you're not an account-creator anymore and is giving an error message?-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 18:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh I noticed. :/— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 19:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

RfC
Cyber - Great and all that you've taken the lead on the migration, but if we're going to call this the "XLabs team" then as a team we need to discuss these things. Perhaps we need to set up a mailing list with the three of us, but please, in the future, give it a couple of days of discussion in-team before starting RFCs or making major changes.--v/r - TP 14:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry. There was a lot of discussion on IRC pressuring me to remove the optin feature and a lot of pressure to keep it.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 14:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Q about X!'s tools on Labs
Hi Cyberpower. First I must thank you for all your excellent technical work supporting the project. It's very generous of you to help in this area. Thanks also for all your help closing discussions. I often read your helpful notes at WP:BN and I certainly appreciate your efforts. I expect many others do as well. As you've been helping with X!'s tools and the move over the WP:LABS I thought I'd stop by to see if I could get an update. I see you've been getting a lot of the tools set up at tools.wmflabs.org/xtools. I use the CIDR/rangecontribs tool a bit and I was wondering if you had an idea when that might be working over at LABS. HelloAnnyong has one set up at ~helloannyong/range/. so it's not really an issue. I guess I was just sort of curious. Thanks again for all your help. I appreciate your efforts. 64.40.54.184 (talk) 02:02, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the praise. I'm not sure yet.  There underlying bugs lingering from the tools initially moved over which I have corrected today for the most part.  I can set that up next if you'd like.  For the record, what is the original link to that tool?  Also, be sure to check out .  It's our official channel for X!'s tools.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It used to be at ~soxred93, then Tparis took it over and had it at ~tparis/rangecontribs/. That was 404 until just a few minutes ago. Now it's back and working just fine. 64.40.54.184 (talk) 02:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Once the migration is complete, they'll all soon just redirect to the new location.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I know DaB and Nosy have had their hands full keeping the toolserver running. Maybe they fixed something. Hmmm. Not sure. But yeah, I saw you were one of the first to migrate to Labs and I thank you for all the work you've put in. I think things will be much more stable over there. Thanks again. 64.40.54.184 (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL. Funny you mention stability over there.  Labs had a total meltdown this morning. :p  Everything just froze.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:11, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops. I bet Marc (Coren) was having fun with that. But I guess it's better to find these issues now rather than later. Oh well. Best. 64.40.54.184 (talk) 03:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Tool is ready.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 12:35, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much. It works great. I really appreciate all the technical work you've been doing supporting the community. Thanks. 64.40.54.71 (talk) 02:07, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. I have also revived article info again.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That's great news. Thank you so much. You'll never guess for this tool to return.  I knew you were focusing on college at the time, so I wasn't going to interfere with your studies. I've asked for it to be re-added to MediaWiki:Histlegend. Thanks very much for getting it running again. Best. 64.40.54.202 (talk) 03:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Cyberbot II
There seems to have been a goof in bot operations on Keith Lemon. Just wanted to make you aware. —    Bill W.     (Talk)  (Contrib)  — 18:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see the goof. The bot tagged a protected page.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 18:38, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I misunderstood the purpose of the bot. I was thinking that it was handling the vandalism incident at that time.  Sory for the confusion. —     Bill W.     (Talk)  (Contrib)  — 19:13, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Closing the RfC
Welcome aboard. You offered to close the RfC, but said that you expect some resistance, and I know there's been resistance from a few people in the past. I don't know what that's about, and I'd be happy to work with you. I notice that you list Reaper Eternal and Worm That Turned as mentors, and I'm pretty sure whatever resistance you're getting would melt away if you could get those two guys to look over whatever you come up with as a proposal; would that be acceptable to you? - Dank (push to talk) 14:54, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I should probably update my notice.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 23:22, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Your signature is causing problems with notifications
Hi, I tried to tell you about this before, but I was obviously a bit too abstruse about it: the fact that your signature does not directly link to either your user or user talk page is causing the mention notifications feature to not fire up when it encounters one of your messages. The latest message about this (not initially by me) is at Wikipedia talk:Notifications. Graham 87 10:48, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I could be wrong, but I don't think the problem is with the links. My take is that it has to do with badly-formed HTML – more specifically: missing  and  end tags.  I just noticed the problem while using the "Dot's syntax highlighter" gadget, in that it messes up the coloration of all wiki code on a page that appears below your signature.


 * Cyber, if you make the following simple fixes to your sig (add the code that's highlighted in red), I suspect both problem(s) will go away:
 * —<font color="DarkRed">Groll <font color="#0080A0">&tau;ech  ( talk ) 11:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not the formatting. The MediaWiki engine automatically adds the closing tags of link formatting within wikilinks.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 23:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not the formatting. The MediaWiki engine automatically adds the closing tags of link formatting within wikilinks.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 23:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

X!'s edit counter
Hi, do you know where the comments page for http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pcount/index.php is? I have found some discrepancies between it and http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php so I'd like to know where to discuss them, please. -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:06, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * — cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 12:15, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't open that link. It pops up a window asking me to choose an application. Something about "mibbit", which I've never heard of. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:50, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That's because it's an IRC link. If you don't have a client, use the connect link.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 12:54, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a "connect" link. It's probably easiest if I describe the problems to you; you can then pass them on to whoever is maintaining the code. Here are the links that I was using for X!'s Edit Counter on Toolserver:   and when Toolserver is in a good mood, these work fine. Here are the equivalents on WMFLabs:   . The problems are: (i) the first two WMFLabs ones don't count deleted edits, so the "Total edits (including deleted)" item is too low - this is a known problem, but I wondered if there was any progress on it; (ii) The third WMFLabs one, for Meta, throws a number of errors, which I think come from mysql. Thanks. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you have script that disables the IRC template. It should have a link that should open an IRC client and link that links to freenode directly.  Anyways, currently, legal is not yet allowing labs to allow us to access the archive table which has the deleted edits.  Therefore, it will turn up zero for the time being.  Labs is not yet setup with the S7 cluster.  This has the metawiki, and centralauth stuff on it.  Last I heard, Coren was struggling with Central Auth replication.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 13:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see what you mean. I hadn't seen that <sup style="color:green;">connect because being green and superscripted, I'd assumed it was part of your unusual signature. Anyway, it takes me to a login screen. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * What's unusual about my signature?— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 14:01, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Funny, I read the line immediately above and jumped to the conclusion that it was related to the problem in the previous section. I believe RedRose64 is saying that he didn't catch the superscripted <sup style="color:green;">connect when it was adjacent to your signature, which is the same color and also employs superscripts.  The eye naturally skips right past it; a neurobiologically "efficient" response to the given stimuli.   —<font color="DarkRed">Groll <font color="#0080A0">&tau;ech  ( talk ) 11:54, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Is there a reason why it doesn't show the number of deleted edits now? Armbrust The Homunculus 16:13, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read this section first before asking. :/— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 16:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)