User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 41

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/
Hi Cyberpower678, CERN changed their news archives a while ago, all old links to this page should be outdated, but all the news are available under new URLs (ht tp://press.cern/press-releases/... with unpredictable "..."). I don't know of an automatic system to do so, but replacing the URLs is better than linking to a web archive. Does the bot produce some list of broken urls by domain? --mfb (talk) 15:45, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I can run an SQL query for you against it's DB.—cyberpower  Chat :Online 15:46, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * That would be interesting. I fixed various links already, but they are in so many different formats that it is hard to do it systematically. --mfb (talk) 16:11, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is a list of IABot's URLs it encountered. It's a bit of a read but here you go.


 * For some reason, the collapsed text rendered on the bottom of the page.—cyberpower  Chat :Online 17:12, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * —cyberpower  Chat :Online 17:41, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I reduced the 1 MB list to the interesting entries. About 40% of the links have the new format. 34 to go, and a source code search finds 31 articles. Including pages with more than one link that should be everything. --mfb (talk) 22:30, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

webarchive template
Regards.. in this edit in the second to last change. It modified a pre-existing deleting its contents. I'm currently in the process of converting over to webarchive BFRA is approved. Do you think this will be a problem with IABot? -- Green  C  17:25, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably. IABot does not support that template yet.—cyberpower Chat :Limited Access 18:05, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Shoot. Could you make an emergency patch to ignore the template? If not I will have to stop the conversion process, and keep fixing by hand errors that show up the tracking category. There's a little over 3000 articles using it, and editors are adding it now also. -- Green  C  18:54, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It can be temporarily added to the ignore_tags config section. You'll need an admin to do it. The config page is linked from the bot's page.—cyberpower  Chat :Offline 02:51, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Supercount
Hey Cyberpower678 what's with supercount? for now > 90.000 sec no answer and results? When will it run again normally, so that I can see statistics about my edits? Majo statt Senf (talk) 02:46, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Works for me.—cyberpower  Chat :Offline 02:51, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * it seems to run again. lagging time is decreasing, now only 78000 secs Majo statt Senf (talk) 03:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Request for rename
Hey there, i just got the message that cyberbot has no objections for my user rename request. So, can I assume that the request has been accepted?

Souravpelu (talk) 17:52, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No, that's just the bot doing some basic clerking for your request, like checking to see if it's technically possible (i.e. we can't rename you to a username that's already taken by someone else). Rename requests are always accepted by a human, and are never automatically processed. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 19:05, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

InternatArchiveBot changed ref name
. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:10, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Please file a phab ticket and add the project InternetArchiveBot.—cyberpower  Chat :Online 15:31, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Handling of archived links when the original is not dead
Thank you for the updates here which are helpful. However, all the references seem to have become tagged "deadurl=yes" when, so far as I can see, none of them were dead and none had been tagged as dead. When I create an article I "pre-archive" any link that I fear may become dead and I record both the url and the archive-url. I have sometimes found that some editors (wrongly) remove the referenced material along with the link whenever they find a dead link. Perhaps the bot's action is explained by your comment above "The URL was considered dead by default since the archive URL is already there" but that is not always the right assumption. I have no idea how commonly people pre-archive but it doesn't seem unreasonable to me and is likely desirable, no? Thincat (talk) 19:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

I wonder whether you are taking Template:Cite web/doc to be saying an omitted dead-url parameter indicates the link is dead? That has not been my (over-strict?) reading which has been that the parameter is optional. Thincat (talk) 19:23, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The deadurl parameter defaults to yes if omitted.—cyberpower Chat :Limited Access 19:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * OK then. If the citation being examined makes no reference at all to deadurl (not merely omitting its value), I think it would be better if the bot did not add in "deadurl=yes", especially when the link is alive. Thincat (talk) 10:08, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * That would require consensus, and would some code changes to implement. It's following the technical documentation.  Adding an archive to the cite template, and omitting has the template implying that it's dead.  Consequently, so will the bot, and it needs to handle that template correctly.  When deadurl is added and set to no, the bot sees it as not tagged as dead.—cyberpower  Chat :Online 15:36, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Camel-hair brush
Why did this need rescuing? It was perfectly fine as it was, and more than that, the bot changed it to an archive which was not the one used as a source by the author of the article. I have reverted it for now. SpinningSpark 15:26, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Per required policy, the bot converted the URL to long format. I would consider reinstating the bot edit as it clearly isn't breaking anything.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Online 15:32, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * What policy is that? <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 15:34, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I forgot to link it. Here you go.  :-)—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Online 15:37, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

blacklist log
Cyberpower, can you investigate what the bot was trying to do when hitting the blacklist (see here, I'll mail you a list)? I wonder whether some of these are tricky blacklist evasions, but I can't really tell easily. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:47, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It seems to be trying to post URLs it modified on the main page to the talk page, to describe it's actions. Nothing can be done here.  Oh how I wish there existed a flag call override-spamblacklist.  I could really use it in my line of bot work.
 * Nah, there is stuff on the blacklist that should never be a life-link, you don't want the bot to link to malware sites or similar.
 * It is also hitting on mainspace pages, one of the first is a justjared. I would suggest that if it posts to the talkpage and fails due to blacklist, that it then maims the link, and if it fails on a mainspace page that it then maims the link in a post on the talkpage (wrap it in nowikis).  At least we know what to repair on the page (I am at the moment minimizing blacklist logs by getting rid of anything that should not be there, which includes clearing after bot fails).  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 16:54, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This an archive bot, and has 0 support for blacklists and notifications. They it's been built also doesn't allow for that kind of function.  Sorry.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Online 17:00, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Then we will also indef stay with the problems .. and the bot will likely keep trying and trying until someone figures out why there is a problem. Bit annoying.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 17:09, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Pokemon Sun and Moon Source
What are you talking about? I clearly said that the listing is Sunday at 12:00PM and 12:30PM.Theexploringgamer (talk) 23:35, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * If you press the left arrow for times and go to 12:00, you should see the Pokemon: The Series: Sun and Moon info Theexploringgamer (talk) 23:37, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) Theexploringgamer (talk) 12:18, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

xtools "count" down
xtools "count" down. Tks. Lingzhi &diams; (talk) 19:07, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Wikimedia Labs is undergoing scheduled maintenance that began 15:00, 14 November 2016 (UTC) and will last for up to 48 hours. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 19:21, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Tks! Lingzhi &diams; (talk) 19:30, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Edit broke citation
I am not sure what happened here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:52, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * "cite web" has too many spaces.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-11ex;color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Offline 23:57, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Strange. Multiple spaces are collapsed to a single space in wikitext parsing, I believe. Are you able to adjust your code to account for this edge case? – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:33, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It'll take a bit, but yes. Can you file a phabricator ticket and add the project InternetArchiveBot?—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-11ex;color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Offline 00:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * . Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:59, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. This will help me to keep track of these so I won't forget.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-13.5ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:Comic Sans MS"><span style="color:\#FF8C00">Chat :Limited Access 05:11, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Just wrote a quick FAQ: User:Green_Cardamom/phab if that is useful. It wasn't obvious to me at first how to use Phab. -- Green  C  01:00, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I created a Herald transcript that automatically assigns, subscribes, and emails me when the user adds the project InternetArchiveBot. So all you need to do is add InternetArchiveBot.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-11ex;color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Offline 01:02, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you modify the FAQ how you want it? -- Green  C  02:23, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Those instructions will be up on the new interface soon. BTW, you should have a look again.  It's got a function user account summary page now. :-)

Cyberbot II's mistake
Hi, I was going over my watchlist when I noticed this edit by Cyberbot II, removing the protection icon 30 days after the article was put on pending changes. However, the PC protection on this article is set to expire in April. I thought I'd let you know in case this bug crops up again. <b style="color:#da0000;">Daß</b> &thinsp; <b style="color:#0044c3;">Wölf</b> 22:54, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The task is currently disabled.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Online 15:33, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi in case you hadn't seen this yet, it looks like Cyberbot removed the template again, except this time it took the rest of the page with it.—Laoris (talk) 17:23, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Season20EnglishSunMoonLogoPokemon.jpg
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https://tools.wmflabs.org/supercount/index.php?user=Majo+statt+Senf&project=de.wikipedia
Hello Cyberpower, can you give the edit counter a kick again? It is lagging now for > 20.000 sec. And after our last communication it suddenly worked again. tnx Majo statt Senf (talk) 06:53, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This seems like a DB problem, for which I have no control over.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-13.5ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:Comic Sans MS"><span style="color:\#FF8C00">Chat :Limited Access 21:27, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Odd bot/cite error
At Algerian Six there is a script error which seems to be due to a malformed URL, introduced by InternetArchiveBot in this diff, though it and GreenC Bot have both been involved. I can’t work out how to fix it, and have no idea why it has gone wrong. -- JohnBlackburne words<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">deeds 20:45, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see any errors. What are you referring to?—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-13.5ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:Comic Sans MS"><span style="color:\#FF8C00">Chat :Limited Access 21:25, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The url protocol has a https/http .. the web merge script was aware of those and fixed many during the conversion but in this case it also made an error also. -- Green  C  21:49, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh I see what's going on. That was an old, now fixed, bug from version 1.1.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-13.5ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:Comic Sans MS"><span style="color:\#FF8C00">Chat :Limited Access 21:51, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Charlie Woods
Hello the bot recently changed two links at Woods' page although I think they are both supposed to point to the same page and the one in the external links is working, ref 2 now gives a 'page 404 - not found error'. I've tried to fix it but failed (without saving). Can you help please? Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 15:11, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * They're identical and they both work for me. The bot merely added a Wayback tag to the reference.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Online 15:17, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


 * They seem identical to me too, but despite a bit of tinkering with my laptop (clearing cache etc.) ref 2 still does not work for me. Perhaps it's one of those mysterious cache / purge anomalies I seem to encounter occasionally. (Usually fix themselves after a short while). Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 15:33, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You're probably trying to click the original link. Try clicking the word "archived" in the reference. ;-)—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Online 15:54, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Yep! That must have been it... oh dear. Thanks, Eagleash (talk) 16:29, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Progress of InternetArchiveBot
Following the discussion at User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 41 and further investigation, I have become reconciled to the way the bot is working. For some articles of particular interest to me the bot is improving the urls of archive-urls, but it is also flagging as "deadurl=yes" urls that are not dead and never have been dead. It will be easier for me to correct the mistakes after the bot has finished with these articles (and I don't want to impede the bot because the archive-urls are genuinely being improved). Can you tell me (or can I find out in some way), when the bot has finished its work on pre-existing articles? When it has checked all articles that existed, say, on 1 November 2016 (or whatever)? Thincat (talk) 12:34, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The bot is running alphabetically through all of Wikipedia. You can gauge relative progress by observing what letter it's working on.  If I misunderstood you, let me know.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Online 15:14, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. That indeed answers my question and you have not misunderstood me. Thincat (talk) 16:36, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot false negative
In this edit InternetArchiveBot incorrectly marked http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/iauc/03200/03241.html as a dead link. As a perusal of User:InternetArchiveBot suggests that a UI for updating the bot's database is not yet available, I ask that you as the bot operator remove www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu from your database of dead hosts. Thanks. —RP88 (talk) 21:38, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

In addition to the request above, please remove http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/ as dead domain from your DB (example). I have reverted countless IABot edits and already addressed the problem on this very talk page in the past several months... in vain. Please stop these unhelpful edits. R fassbind – talk  22:18, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The update to v1.2.7.1 has made it so the addition of false positives be greatly reduced. However the lingering false positives left behind need to be removed, so please do report them when you see them.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-11ex;color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS"> Chat :Offline 22:31, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of this. —RP88 (talk) 00:11, 21 November 2016 (UTC)