User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 9

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for the barnstar. I appreciate receiving you sentiments.— cyberpower ChatOffline 11:02, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Cyberbot I
Hi Cyberpower678. It looks like Cyberbot I is running this task again. Could you take a look? 28bytes (talk) 23:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Toolserver has been undergoing on and off maintenance. I am assuming the glitch is coming from there.  As long as the bot isn't being disruptive at he moment, there is no real action needed at the moment.— cyberpower ChatOffline 10:55, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

RFA
Im not sure what you did wrong if anything at the RFA. It was a terrible one and some users should be ashamed of themselves, but i really don't think you should be. Chin up and please dont leave, there are plenty of other things to do around here. Also being an admin isnt all that and there are loads of rather important tasks that need and can be done without being an admin, and really given the culture at RFA im surprised anyone puts themselves through it. Blethering  Scot  23:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm considering putting myself through, though I doubt it will accomplish much. I'm able to handle the scrutiny though.— cyberpower ChatOffline 04:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Just make sure you  read this first. Even if it takes you 3 hours to  read with  all  its links and footnote to  follow, it  will  be well  worth it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:53, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Cyber, Have a good day. Ryan Vesey 04:13, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I've certainly had a tiresome day today. I just got out of work (EST).  Let's hope Saturday is better.— cyberpower ChatOffline 04:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Have a nice Sunday :) — ΛΧΣ  21™  06:49, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Bots
Hey, if you're taking a break, you should probably shut your bots down for the duration, especially if you really may not be coming back.

In a similar vein, please at very least fix the task with RfX report and remove the signature line; you have previously been asked to do this and if you still cannot then the bot probably will need to be blocked. -— Isarra ༆ 02:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There's no need to shut them down if I were absent. They shut themselves down after a certain amount of time without maintenance.  You can have look at the battery meter that tells you how much energy it has left. There is nothing broken about the RfX report.  Which also means there is no reason to block it.  The tasks can be individually shut down if need be, ONLY IF THERE IS REASON, though.  There isn't.  You can remove the timestamp by setting showtimestamp to false.   No I still do not have access to toolserver.  My computer is still down due to renovations.— cyberpower ChatOffline 11:01, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I think what most people mean is that they dont want the bot to make a bunch of useless edits. Theyre not complaining about the signature itself, but rather the fact that the bot which is supposed to be updating only when there's new edits to an RfA is instead editing every 15 minutes to do nothing other than change a timestamp.  But in case I'm mistaken, I went ahead and removed the signature.  ☮  Soap  ☮  22:03, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Its not the signature. It's the redundant edits.  I already know what I am going to change to fix it and keep the signature.— cyberpower ChatOnline 18:42, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

An RFA has commenced
User:AutomaticStrikeout has begun the RFA process and since you are the holder of the rfx template, I wanted to let you know. Thanks-- Go  Phightins  !  03:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The bot automatically takes care of it.— cyberpower ChatOffline 13:41, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you. It's these kind of messages and connection to editors that remind we why I like to be here.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 04:10, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Your signature
When your signature is set to "darkorange", it currently results in three lines of wikitext thanks to : — cyberpower [[User talk:C678|<sup style="color: This is annoying when viewing diffs or wikitext. Please change your signature wikitext to avoid this bug. Possibilities include using a CSS3 named color (like this), using " " <span style="color:rgb(255,140,0)">(like this) , using " " <span style="color:&#35;FF8C00">(like this) , or using " " <span style="color:\#FF8C00">(like this) . Thanks. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]]⚔ 16:57, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
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 * 2) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access
 * I applied the mod. Thank you.  I've been trying to fix that.— cyberpower <sup style="color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access 17:39, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

The RfX Report
Howdy. I think my user page is looking a bit off. I think it may be related to the RfX report. I commented out the report and it appeared to remove the whitespace on the left. Do you know if the RfX report is causing that whitespace? If not, any idea what might be? If it is the RfX report, do you know of a fix to my user page I can make? I tried multiple browsers and they all showed the whitespace. Any help you'd be willing and able to give would be appreciated.--Rockfang (talk) 03:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the template no longer works right (I've commented it out on my user page).--Bbb23 (talk) 07:32, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks more right now. I am aware of the fact that for some reason, the script conflicting with the API.  I was too tired to try an fix it.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Trick or Treat 10:35, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good, thanks! BTW, it's a wonderful little gadget.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks from me as well. :) Rockfang (talk) 23:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm wondering if this gadget will run for a while or if it will become obsolete soon.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Trick or Treat 00:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

A mystery
I am not sure what's wrong; the Pumpkin Sky RFA is displaying as "pending closure" when it's not pending closure. Could you look into this when you have a minute? Thanks. -- Dianna (talk) 00:09, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Echoing Dianna, I also saw it for while. I went and manually fixed it (somewhat), but was unable to determine what caused it in the first place. - Penwhale &#124; dance in the air and follow his steps 03:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It was me, sort of. When the RFA started, the end time was not substituted, so I tried to fix it by manually copying the transclusion time into the RFA, only I forgot to add 7 days to it. By the time I realised, the bot had picked it up and reported the RFA as pending closure. When I tried to fix that by doing exactly the same as User:Penwhale, the bot ignored me. :S -- KTC (talk) 09:45, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

It was apparently this edit that fixed the issue. I'm not sure but I'm guessing the text format was off and was pasted from a source and format the bot doesn't support. That's best answer I can give.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Trick or Treat 12:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There was a Left-to-right mark (U+200E) after the year, which was removed in the edit that finally fixed it. Anomie⚔ 15:54, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Anomie.— cyber power <sub style="color:


 * 1) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access [[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-12.7ex;color:
 * 2) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Trick or Treat]] 16:27, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW, looks like your "Halloween" signature (and probably any other special sigs you might have) needs the same fix for the annoying linebreaks. Anomie⚔ 19:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yea oops. I forgot about those.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Trick or Treat 19:57, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Trouted
You have been trouted for: Just wanted to see what the button does! Also, thanks for the proposal on user rights. --Funandtrvl (talk) 16:23, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I love fish.— cyber power <sub style="color:


 * 1) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access [[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-12.7ex;color:
 * 2) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Trick or Treat]] 16:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Attention Wikipedia
Upcoming events are forcing me to reduce my availability to Wikipedia to virtually zero. These events may force me to stay off of Wikipedia for some time. I would appreciate any talk page stalker to answer my queries for me on my talk page if I receive any.
 * I have a week off I'll try to handle anything.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 00:56, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

User:Cyberpower678/RfX Report / User:TParis/RfX Report
User:Cyberpower678/RfX Report / User:TParis/RfX Report seems to be down. '''<span title="Shoot!" style="font-family: Mono; Cursor: crosshair;">-- Cheers, Riley   Huntley ''' 04:58, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh fuck. Whenever I try to improve it, I end up breaking it.  Nonetheless, there seems to be an issue with framework, so I will have to take a look t that.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 11:37, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The script is fine. There is an issue with the framework.  I'll have to look into it tonight.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 19:03, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for all your hard work [and for the work to come]! It is greatly appreciated. <span title="Shoot!" style="font-family: Mono; Cursor: crosshair;">-- Cheers, Riley   Huntley  19:18, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * All issues should be resolved now.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 02:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Bot mangling a redirect
Please see what Cyberbot I has done to User:Cyberpower678/RfX Report — it's converted it into a redirect to itself. Since it's bot updated, I'm not going to do anything (I expect I'd end up in an edit war with the bot), but it should be fixed somehow. Nyttend (talk) 22:24, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I applied a quick patch, so the bot is stuck at this point. It won't edit war you.  There is an underlying framework issue that X! Never got around to fixing.  I have to fix it myself tonight.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 22:28, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks. What template are you talking about?— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 02:34, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The RfX one; reading the above two threads regarding the issue has reinforced that I have no business doing anything but reverting vandalism, participating in discussions, and content building. No template work for me. Go   Phightins  !  02:37, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually a programmed bot automatically updates the template. Wikipedia code is too simple to be used to read active RfAs.  If you would like to look at sophistication though, you can mozy on over to here, here, here, and here and look at the source of what I'm most proud of.  These four pages work together to develop the signature I sign with.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 02:43, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * All right, now you're just showing off. It took me an hour to come up with my signature. :) Go   Phightins  !  02:45, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Mine gradually grew over the year I've been here. I'm not showing off, I'm inviting you to look.  :P  Anyways, I think I saw you oppose my proposal at VPT.  There are regular template editors out there and just about over 1000 fully protected templates (rough count).  I do some template work myself occasionally but sometimes get halted by protections.  I gave up with edit requests because mine almost never got answered.  This was the grounds for my proposal, not to divide users.  But, it's your opinion.  It looks like it has a chance of passing though.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 02:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Come to think of it, templates hadn't even crossed my mind; when I heard "pages" all that popped into my mind was articles, I may change my !vote. Go   Phightins  !  03:00, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I changed my !vote to neutral. I'm going to give that some more thought. Go   Phightins  !  03:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You are free to vote as you choose, don't let my comment be a huge influence on your decision. Personally, I like there being one less oppose now because it just increases its already somewhat high chances of passing.

No really. I thought that I had to vote how you told me to. :) In all seriousness, it never crossed my mind that templates are protected too, and I think that for this purpose, your proposal makes sense. I'm just trying to decide if my support of it to edit templates outweighs my opposing of it for articles. I don't know. Go   Phightins  !  03:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Like I pointed out somewhere in the proposal, someone opposed on the basis of no policy, and I stated that a policy on its use and how it's received can be founded if this comes to pass.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:17, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, a policy would need to be erected. I would probably support it for a short trial period (two months maybe), but I want to sleep on it. Speaking of which, it's time to sleep. Anyway, no problem on the barnstar. We need more technically inclined people such as yourself. Good night. Go   Phightins  !  03:19, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Good night for you, I'm pulling an all nighter.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:26, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Rationale
Thanks for clarifying. Any time we strike comments we should explain the striking for presumably obvious reasons. Thanks again. - jc37 02:24, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I'm editing using an iPhone right now so I tried to be as short as possible to save time.  Guess I should've mentioned dup in the first summary though.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 02:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Whatever happened with edit-user right closure?
Your edit summary refers to the Pakistan discussion? Churn and change (talk) 04:58, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't understand.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 04:59, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Your RFC on Village Pump (proposals) was closed by Apteva and Dennis Brown. Dennis is an uninvolved admin; Apteva is a non-admin. Nevertheless, you have reverted that closure and replaced it with a statement that WTT would be reclosing it soon, and the edit summary refers to the Pakistan discussion. Churn and change (talk) 05:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, what do you know, I did. I didn't even notice that somehow.  8 hours ago I made an edit that would announce the official closer to be Worm That Turned, this was before the close was made by them, in the same edit, I decided to close Pakistan.  I didn't realize I failed to push the save button until now, when the browser glitched and botched a bunch of edits.  I didn't bother checking above the last thread of Pakistan as I assumed that they were closed and to be unaltered.  I copy and pasted the new version below Pakistan to fix my edits.  I would prefer to stand by Worm That Turned closing this as it was settled that he would close well before Apteva and Dennis Brown closed.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 05:10, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I think you need to let Dennis and Apteva know this then. People spend a lot of time reading through a whole lot of stuff in a debate they didn't take part (obviously because they weren't interested) before closing a discussion. You probably need to get them to agree, because I don't think there is a convention the RFC submitter gets to choose the closer. Churn and change (talk) 05:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Trust me, I am an editor in good standing. But it is inevitable for multiple editors/admins to be working on the same thing - and whoever clicks save first is the one to make the edit, or perform the close. I would suggest asking WTT if they want to do anything of if they just want to leave Dennis's close. I had been working on the close for a while almost a week ago and never did anything because there was a hanging question at the end. Apteva (talk) 05:30, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The submitter? The submitter should definitely not be closing RfC's even if they are stale. They most they can do is retract them by deleting the RfC tag. Apteva (talk) 05:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest we leave all three closes in there, and if they differ, ask for a vote on agreeing with the closures. Churn and change (talk) 05:36, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

First off, Apteva, your close had a huge flaw, editinterface. That bit is not a question of the discussion and should not be factored into the discussion close. Second, this was a rather large and contentious discussion and should be closed by an admin. Dennis Brown is basically leaning on your close anyways. I have no idea what makes people here think that editinterface still part of the proposal when I made a clear statement that it was removed from the proposed toolset. You also didn't mention what consensus for editprotected either. I had a reason for choosing someone to close this specific RfC. That someone after confirmed that they would close shortly after I made the initial close as consensus pending. I had just never gotten around to making the statement.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 05:44, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It was not a factor in the closing remarks. I was aware that editinterface had been removed from consideration, and did not think that needed to be mentioned. Saying it had the least support was effectively the same result. It is unlikely that in a subsequent proposal it will be included, for that very reason. But no one can predict the future, we all just have to wait and see. I was impressed though with the closeness of the support/lack of support - as mentioned it was a majority, but we do not tend to decide things by majority vote. Had the support been even a few percentage points greater, I would not have made any closing comments, even though the outcome would probably not have changed. Apteva (talk) 20:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * As a side note, I am currently very, very, groggy and I may have a different frame of mind when I get some sleep. I think I might be basing my judgements off of my fatigue right now.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 05:47, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I have restored the close made by Apteva and Dennis Brown. There is nothing I have seen anywhere that the initiator decides who closes a discussion. If WTT disagrees then a discussion can occur between the three of them. You should not be removing others comments from the page. GB fan 05:56, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I added some space for WTT to add a summary if the admin so chooses. If we don't hear from WTT by tomorrow, I think I will take it out, since there isn't any convention of waiting for a specific person to be doing the honors; right now leaving it there as a courtesy. Churn and change (talk) 06:08, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yikes. I did say to cyberpower that I would try to close the discussion, but I did warn him that I had other things on and it might be a while before I got round to it. Please don't hold out for me! I've gone and submitted an ArbCom candidacy nomination which is currently taking up all my time. Dennis is an excellent admin, appears uninvolved, and glancing at Apteva's comments they look like they're well considered. I doubt I'll find a different consensus. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Worm TT( talk ) 12:13, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Closure
What one admin is not good enough? Apteva (talk) 05:24, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I had this admin planned before you even considered closing.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 05:45, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Closers are not planned like that.  Snowolf How can I help? 06:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Unless you have had subsequent discussion, this "If I'm not too busy, I'll see what I can do." from WTT a week ago does not look like a hard and fast commitment to act as closer for the RFC . An admin and editor in good standing who have expended effort in good faith should be enough, surely? I didn't comment and expected it to pass so if good reason has been given to not pass it at this time, we really should respect the current closers. Leaky  Caldron  12:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Chalk this up to one of your occasional "blunders" ... unless the admin themself puts an "closing in-progress" tag on something, any other admin can do the hard-work of closing. Discounting that hard work in any way, shape or manner is really inappropriate.  Closing an RFC or VPP is not light work in most cases.  (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:22, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * After having gotten a good nights rest, I do say that my judgement and behavior last night was wholly incorrect. This is not going to be an isolated incident and there is more stress coming my way.  If judgement is impaired in this manner, I should not be editing.  I therefore will be going on a Wikipedia shortly.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 13:27, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Which Wikipedia, though? :) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:21, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It's supposed to say Wikibreak.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 18:34, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

That was a mistake, not an "inappropriate action"
So nothing much to worry about. But by all means, enjoy the break. Churn and change (talk) 20:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

WP:VPT
Misclick? GiantSnowman 14:00, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep. Looks like it.  Must've happened when I was switching tabs on my browser.  I'm not editing until I'm my life is on break.— cyberpower <sup style="color:black;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:black;font-family:arnprior">Absent 14:50, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

WT:Administrators
The heading is redundant in my opinion as it relates to the RfC section above. They are proposals within the RfCs and the CENT entry should be corrected to reflect that.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 19:35, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Technically all the subheaders under Mbisanz' initial proposal should be sub headed under that sub heading, since that is where the RFC template is.
 * But regardless, I don't think anyone's confused. Is there a reason you think it should be removed besides personal preference? - jc37 19:40, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, it makes the discussion more uniform and doesn't make it feel discontinuous. It momentarily confused me and it might momentarily, or longer, confuse them.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 19:42, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmk. Give me a moment, and let me see if I can make them all uniform then (and possibly see about a span id or two). - jc37 19:44, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. And added a span id too, to help potential navigation (hopefully when eventually archived, the bot will take it along : ) - jc37 20:48, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 21:18, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

User:Cyberpower678/RfX Report
Thanks for maintaining this report. I've been thinking though. Your bot is making hundreds of needless edits. Why doesn't it check whether anything has changed, and only update the table when it needs to? For example, this is what User:AnomieBOT does with User:AnomieBOT/PERTable, and it works very efficiently. Just a suggestion. Regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:32, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It stops updating when there are no active RfXs.— cyberpower <sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online 15:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That's not quite the same as what I was suggesting, is it? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:17, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * What you are suggesting is an update I had planned to make soon.— cyberpower <sup style="color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access 17:18, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that would be a very useful update, and I'm sure Anomie wouldn't mind sharing the code for his bot if that would help. And to avoid having to update the "Time left" field, I think you could calculate it from the end time using a parser function. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:32, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * My python skill level is very minimal. This bot is written in PHP.  I hadn't thought of the time left feature.  That would require a major change in the framework, I believe.— cyberpower <sup style="color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access 13:43, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Information
I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My 76 Strat  (talk) 11:02, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Franamax
Perhaps you would consider using this image that Franamax uploaded instead of the generic cemetery one; as well, he died on November 25, and we were just informed on November 30. (My source is his obituary; however, as he did not disclose his full name onwiki, I will not link to it.) Risker (talk) 01:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Perhaps you could email me the link, but you don't have to.  I won't disclose anything on it onto the Wiki.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 04:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Also done, check your mail. Risker (talk) 05:01, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Template:Pp-pc1
I'm not sure we need a template for this. Currently, the positioning of it interferes with the down arrow next to the "Accepted (latest)" box on the top right. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 11:58, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks fine on my end. Perhaps your browser?  We technically don't need templates for any protection, but its there for people who want to edit it to know that there is a protection of some sort slapped on the article.  I'm just being consistent.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 12:01, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It's covering it up for me too. (FF16) It probably should have been tested on all browsers before being implemented. Legoktm (talk) 12:08, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * What browsers do you use? I just tested them on three of them and they all work fine.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 12:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Firefox 17 (just upgraded) on the Monobook skin at 1440x900 (screenshot). Legoktm (talk) 13:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Just checked the Vector skin and it looks fine. I'm guessing that's what you use? I think that might be the culprit here. Legoktm (talk) 13:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * in case it helps - example of PC on monobook <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Worm TT( talk ) 13:30, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Worm.— cyber power <sub style="color:


 * 1) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access [[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-14.1ex;color:
 * 2) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas]] 13:35, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. I use vector.  I'll see if I can fix this, without making it look "weird".— cyber power <sub style="color:


 * 1) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access [[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-14.1ex;color:
 * 2) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas]] 13:35, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

✅ They should be sitting right next to each other now.— cyber power <sub style="color:
 * 1) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access [[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-14.1ex;color:
 * 2) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas]] 13:47, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks worse on my example link. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Worm TT( talk ) 13:56, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I was using your example link to fix it. They're sitting right next to each other here.— cyber power <sub style="color:


 * 1) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Limited Access [[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-14.1ex;color:
 * 2) FF8C00;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas]] 13:57, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, on my machine, both the monobook and the vector are now failing. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Worm TT( talk ) 14:00, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Your going to need to give me a screenshot of both. I don't have anything to go off of.  I'm seeing File:PC Padlock Screenshot in Monobook.jpg.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 14:03, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not in a position to do that right at the moment, but I can tell you that mine is closer to lego's in that it has the text "Accepted (latest)", which yours is missing. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Worm TT( talk ) 14:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Now I'm confused. File:Pending Changes Padlock with Monobook with logged in reviewer right.jpg.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 14:16, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, we've got on <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Worm TT( talk ) 14:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that's the better way to go. I'm afraid if I shift it to the right, I'll ram the padlock into other icons.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 14:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I do remember that the old Template:Pp-pending had no icon since it could not reliably be positioned without overlapping with something else (bugzilla:23796 is still unresolved) – that is until it was deleted since it was found that there was no need for additional categorization or icon, see WP:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 July 27. Not sure if those arguments are still valid of course. Amalthea  17:26, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I find it extremely helpful. The icon has been fixed to not overlap with that box, that I don't see anyways.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 17:58, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Dying bot
See the bot notice at User:Cyberpower678/RfX Report if you've not already. Nyttend (talk) 01:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I came to mention the same thing. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 01:47, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Possibly stupid question - Why will the bot die? I don't understand. Go   Phightins  !  03:27, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I was about to ask the same thing. WikiPuppies  bark dig 03:33, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are going to keep this notice up, please change the format so it doesn't affect the page it is on. <span title="Shoot!" style="font-family: Mono; Cursor: crosshair;">-- Cheers, Riley   Huntley  03:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I took the liberty of [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cyberpower678/energy/bots/year&diff=prev&oldid=526280328 modifying] it so the message wouldn't show up everywhere breaking a bunch of userpages/transclusions. Isn't there a better way the bot can notify you it is out of "energy"? Like an email perhaps? Legoktm (talk) 03:35, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I get so many e-mails that I tend to miss a few here and there, like the renewal notice that was sent out.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 04:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Please allow me to clarify. The bot notice is for the benefit of the community and me. It is to either allow the community to give me a kick in the butt should I fail to notice that my tool server account will expire soon or to give the community sufficient warning should I have retired, to be able to take over the tasks before it does die. My bot runs on tool server which automatically expires after six months and must be renewed before it does. If it does expire, I have to have a sysadmin restore manually which takes time. When tool server expires, the bot will get killed in the process. To prevent that from happening, I made this notice should I fail to remember to renew my account on time.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 04:03, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Update: I've renewed my toolserver. Bot should run peacefully for another 6 months without warning. That notice won't appear again until May 6, 2013. And no I'm going to bed. I'm so exhausted right now. I'll fix the formatting sometime tomorrow.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 04:13, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how having a bunch of users coming to your talk page for breaking their userpages/WP:RFA is any different than checking your email to make sure your account doesn't expire? There's surely a better way to do this. Legoktm (talk) 04:18, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Because I proactively check Wikipedia and that big orange bar always gets my attention.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 04:20, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * So set up a subcommand to tell the bot to leave you a message when it's due to expire? <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Worm TT( talk ) 09:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Mail call
YGM. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Worm TT( talk ) 10:07, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

An offer
I modified the honour you created for Franamax and made it as a transcludable template. If you do not object to the changes, you can post it over the one you first created. The code is. Thank you my friend. My 76 Strat  (talk) 20:42, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You are, unintentionally outing franamax's name. His name was never revealed on Wiki.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 23:39, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I've been rather diligent to ensure that I wouldn't do such a thing. I can link numerous discussions including a current Arbcom thread. I waited until after family authorized the posting of his obituary, and WP:RIP published his name. That doesn't make this a better presentation, just a valid consideration. I only hope to see our best given to one of our best. My 76  Strat  (talk) 23:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW, your honor is corrupting your own page because it won't transclude in it's current state. You must replace the pipes, |, with | to correct this condition, or use standard html. Cheers My 76  Strat  (talk) 00:08, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I got permission from his sister to give a link to the information and the use of his real name. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 01:47, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Very well. I can accept that.  I just have a strict personal privacy policy because I value everyone's or privacy, even the dead.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 02:52, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a fine quality, and an approach I share and agree with. That is why I did join, and start several discussions on exactly that matter. It was clearly a choice the surviving family had sole jurisdiction to make, and I was aware that contact had been made, and the affirmative response. I didn't want to replace what you had started out of respect to you, and I won't. Yours is as fine an example as any. I would only suggest using the Canadian spelling for honor, since the honoree is Canadian, and to ensure it has been formatted for safe-substitution and that transclusions don't corrupt the page it is posted to. On my browser your RfA box is bunching into the honor template, making a mess of your page. The example I modified has been tested in several situations to ensure it does not corrupt, and passed all tests. It is transcludable or substitutable and has a documentation page, is categorized, and fully protected against vandalism. So it is available for use, and entirely optional. Best regards, My 76  Strat  (talk) 05:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW if you do replace the original honor with this modified version, I hope you don't remove your statement about making the honor. You did make it, or create it, I just modified it a bit. Cheers, My 76  Strat  (talk) 06:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will use it.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 13:40, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Pp-pc1
Template:Pp-pc1 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Bovlb (talk) 18:40, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

retired banner
Did Malleus indicate to you off-wiki he wanted retired banners on his pages? NE Ent 01:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Somehow I didn't see this message.  He gave me permission to put it up.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 12:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Specifically where? Thanks. Leaky  Caldron  13:57, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * email.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 14:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:red; background-color:fff; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">

— ΛΧΣ  21  is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message. — ΛΧΣ  21  05:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Template:Cratstats
could you have your bot add a category to this template to keep it out of Database reports/Uncategorized templates? Frietjes (talk) 18:33, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi
Don't revert someone on their own talk page.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 18:54, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Whoops must've been a misclick. Sorry.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 19:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Why do you have my user talk on your watchlist anyway?— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 22:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Any edit I make to a page is automatically watch listed. I'm usually too lazy to remove them. ;)— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 04:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
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Mediran ( t  •  c ) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Mediran ( t  •  c ) 10:53, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Stalled Bot?
Cyberbot I has not updated User:Cyberpower678/Tally for over 5 hours (it will probably do it now I've told you...) I noticed the volte numbers were not agreeing with the totals at Requests for adminship/KTC  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:45, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Something on wiki seems to have stalled it. I don't have access to my bot right now but I will try to see what's going on.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 00:53, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This is also exactly why I have a time stamp on the RfX reporter as well. Someone nuked the neutral vote section on one of the RfAs which will cause the bot to hang up if it does not see all three sections.  I have fixed it now.— cyber power <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline <sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 01:08, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Update request
Could you update CRAT to reflect or at least reference RFC you closed on WT:ADMIN? Thanks.  MBisanz  talk 21:02, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * How so?  A link to it in my close?— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 21:16, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * At the least, I would think point three of CRAT should reflect the 24 hour minimum waiting period and a new point should be added to mention that crats should look for the three year inactivity period.  MBisanz  talk 02:50, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll allow you to make the necessary connections to any of my closes regarding the policy changes.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha, thanks, I'll flag down someone else as I'm proposing major changes to that section and don't want to be seen as trying to wedge my personal view in ahead of the RFC.  MBisanz  talk 03:25, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

This is somewhat funny and embarrassing, but I just realized what you were asking from me. I can do that for you. I will update it tomorrow.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 03:37, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha, it's ok. Thanks for double checking; Moe may beat you to the change, so no worries.  MBisanz  talk 03:43, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * And punch. ✅ :) Regards, — Moe   Epsilon  03:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * And tweaked. Good night.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 04:00, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you.  MBisanz  talk 04:05, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Retirement bar you instigated, and reinstated, on Malleus's User Talk
"He has given me permission to put it up." Yeah, right. (Do you have any more lies to tell us?) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 10:09, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow, it seems Christmas really brings out the WP:AGF in some people! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 11:04, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Huh? (Please make your message plain.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 11:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Calling someone a liar is hardly an assumption of good faith. I would presume that if Malleus doesn't want something on his talk page, he is both able and willing to remove it, probably with a suitably strongly-worded message for anyone pulling such a shenanigan. Seraphimblade Talk to me 11:27, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Bullshit. Saying "He has given me permission" is explicit and as clear as it is misleading, false, and dishonest. (Hello!) Unless you want to contend that words mean nothing. (And if that's the case, then anything goes and nothing is wrong to say, so then, by your own standard of meaninglessness, get the fuck off my back!) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 11:30, 25 December 2012 (UTC) p.s. If you notice, I asked Demiurge1000, not you, so maybe you should WP:BUTTOUT?
 * I'm really not quite sure what you're asking me, nor indeed what you think you're doing here at all, so I'm unlikely to be of much assistance to you. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 11:52, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh isn't that rich! (Hey, who invited you here in the first place? I opened this thread, and not to your attention.) I think it's quite clear to anybody, I was asking you to clarify what exactly you meant, by your ambiguous comment. Because (need I spell this out?) it wasn't clear what you meant. (Duh.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 12:18, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Before this thread spirals ridiculously out of control - as an outside observer, "Do you have any more lies to tell us" in the original post was the most anti-WP:AGF statement I could have seen on Christmas morning, and well beyond the type of phrasing I have come to expect from you, Ihardlythinkso. I believe that was what Demiurge would have been referring to. I think it was a subtle suggestion to maybe rethink the way you were interacting with someone? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:25, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * @Bwilkins, "He has given me permission" stands for itself. If you like to read something in it that isn't there, that is your perogative, but I don't do that, I just read what's written. There were perhaps 1000 ways that Cyberpower678 could have justified adding Malleus's retirement banner, without justfying it the way he did, without stating that Mallues "gave [him] permission", which wasn't true at all, no way, completely false. I've made my point, and please don't try and put shit on me. (I think I've received enough of that in this thread already.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 12:41, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Calling someone a liar in the first line doesn't seem like the best of ways to put your message across, or to ask a question. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:54, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * There was an email exchange . Leaky  Caldron  12:45, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Per that diff, the single word "email" does not equal an "exchange". More interesting, I think, is the summary Malleus Fatuorum gave for the edit in which he removed the "retirement bar": "stop fucking about with my talk page. I'll decide, not whoever added the black bar." What might one make of that? Nortonius (talk) 14:44, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * What might one make of that? One might imagine Malleus receives, and perhaps sends, a lot of emails at a time like this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:00, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That does look to be what this was all about, I appreciate you speaking up C678. Nortonius (talk) 14:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * When I saw this post, and Malleus' edit summary, I knew there was going to be drama so I waited for it to die down before saying something so everyone can see it.— cyberpower <sup style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Chat<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline 14:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * User:Ihardlythinkso is considered to be no longer welcome on my talkpage and is hereby banned from posting here. Have a merry christmas.— cyber power <sub style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online <sup style="margin-left:-6.1ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas 12:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)