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Scotch-Irish is offensive because of the double meaning of scotch. Scotch (like the liqueur) Irish refers to all Irish being drunk, not being of Scottish descent. Scot-Irish or Scottish-Irish is preferable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.60.56.105 (talk) 08:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

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Cydebot confused about seasons
Cydebot has made several edits like this moving pages to the wrong season. --Pascal666 18:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This was an error made at WP:CFDW, and luckily, only eight pages were mis-categorized (at least, the ones dealing with the 1980–81 time period). I'll be reverting those eight Cydebot edits and have the right categories put in place. — ξ xplicit  19:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

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Margaret Jull Costa entry
Cyde,

I'm writing a biographical entry on Margaret Jull Costa for the Oxford History of Literary Translation in English, and I'm wondering if you have any leads on her date and place of birth and information about her early life. Any information you can provide would help our project of highlighting the contributions of twentieth-century translators.

All best,

JCGTU (talk) 14:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Hungarian American Jews
I don't know what you did to this page, but it's broken - it only goes up to E. (Also, what's the point in removing the hyphen?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.129.101 (talk) 10:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

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Your bot deleted a category
Shouldn't have done it. It had a similar title to a previously deleted category, but not exactly the same, and in addition had a different scope  Pur ple  back pack 89    01:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Cyde: issue dealt with here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Cydebot
Hi Cyde. I felt it necessary to block Cydebot just now. Please see Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working. The long and short of it is that it deleted a category it apparently should not have, though of course I'm sure that's human error—that it was instructed to—but the category was never discussed at the relevant CfD. So I restored upon request at WP:UND, and the user who made the request was restoring the categories to all the pages the bot removed it from after I undeleted, but then the bot deleted again and undid the restoration of the category to the associated articles. In the absence of a block this vicious circle would continue.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just noticed: the preceding section is from the user who requested undeletion.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I'm probably not going to revert or undo it tonight, but you do need to do something about the bot, and figure out why it's doing that to prevent further problems in the future.  Pur ple  back pack 89    02:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It has nothing to do with the bot. Staying far away from CfD, I just did not know where the right place was, but it had to be from human instruction. What happened here is that a human being placed the category in Cydebot's cross hairs at this page. It is no longer listed there, and I have procedurally nominated the category for deletion, here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Cyde: issue dealt with here now. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Glad to hear that everything was taken care of before I even saw any of these messages. You guys made my job really hard :-P  Cyde Weys  15:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

File-Class articles
I have no idea what to do next with this nomination that I closed. Apparently Template:Cat class requires the specification of a "topic" such as Image or File, and put its categories into the appropriate category. Everyone wanted this merged, but I don't know how to do it. Thoughts?--Mike Selinker (talk) 01:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You're going to need a template wizard for this. I think it should be as simple as: If the incoming value for the parameter class is Image, treat it as "File" when generating the category name to categorize the page under. However, I don't know all the intricacies of the template programming language, hence the need for a wizard. -- Cyde Weys 04:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Woah, hang on a second. I've just asked User:Od Mishehu to hold up on this as well. The nomination was actually about moving 712 categories, not just recategorising them. This is quite a big operation and not like your usual CfD stuff. I can help with the technical template stuff, and it will be Template:Class mask which will need a change not Template:Cat class. But a lot of work will be needed prior to this and a bot is probably going to be necessary. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. You've got it under control from here?--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Umm, I wasn't really volunteering myself for this job, although I can pitch in and help. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Cyde: would your bot be up for the job of creating ~600 categories of the form Category:File-Class XXX articles with the content contained on the respective Category:Image-Class XXX articles (except replacing image with file of course)? I asked about this as he does a lot of bot work with WikiProject assessment categories, but he suggested that your bot might be more suited. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This is currently happening via CFD/W. Other editors have updated the pages already I think. On a cyde note, wouldn't be be worthwhile to link the new categories in the deletion log entry, for convenience? – xeno talk  18:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Removing Category:British politicians of South Asian descent from Jonathan Sayeed
Your bot allocated Jonathan Sayeed to Category:British politicians of South Asian descent. There is no evidence that he is South Asian descent. As far as I am aware, he is British. I have been told that his ancestors came to Britain from the Lebanon; but I do not have a reliable source for this.

I have accordingly deleted this category from Mr Sayeed's biography.--Toddy1 (talk) 19:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Cydebot's deletion reasons when moving categories
I see that recently, Cydebot has been deelting categories with no links to the move target. This makes it slightly harder to find the current place the category was moved to. It would be nice if you fix it so that the deletion reasons include a link to the target, not just the name. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:23, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm really busy right now; just to make this easier on me, could you link to some specific log entries or somesuch showing the incomplete edit summaries? That will make debugging easier because I have less information to track down. Thanks. -- Cyde Weys 18:27, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * See . The target categories are not [[linked]]. – xeno talk 18:30, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this changed "recently", because as far as I'm aware, this is the way Cydebot has always worked. If that's not true, please tell me, but I don't think I've ever changed this. That being said, there's no reason we can't have an improvement going forward. I take it the latter of the following is preferable to the former? The only issue is that the syntax required to form the latter makes it longer, thus more likely to overflow the length of the edit summary field.


 * Robot - Moving category Singaporean legal academics to Singaporean legal scholars per CFD at Categories for discussion/Log/2010 July 21.
 * Robot - Moving Category:Singaporean legal academics to Category:Singaporean legal scholars per CFD at Categories for discussion/Log/2010 July 21.

-- Cyde Weys 19:14, 29 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think the old category needs to be linked, just the new one. And yes, this wasn't a regression, it's new functionality (I suggested it above as well). It could be further shortened by eliminating the link to WP:CFD and instead  per CFD  – xeno talk 19:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

In terms of display length, yes, this is definitely shorter:


 * Robot - Moving Category:Singaporean legal academics to Category:Singaporean legal scholars per CFD.

In terms of source length, it's longer. I don't actually know the exact limitations of the edit summary field (I know it did get longer than it used to be at some point). Maybe I'll just make the change and revert it if edit summaries start overflowing with regularity. It's not a difficult change to make by any means. And linking the old category could still be useful in some circumstances. -- Cyde Weys 19:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

The limit is 200 source characters. -- Cyde Weys 19:40, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a gadget that adds 50 characters, that might help. – xeno talk 19:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Can bots use gadgets? -- Cyde Weys 19:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Good question =] My thoughts were that you could find out how the gadget  does what it does and replicate the functionality within the bot. – xeno talk 19:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)


 * For your information, at some point your bot was linking to the target - see, for example, here. I think a perfect log entry would have been:
 * Robot: Moved to per Categories for discussion/Log/2010 January 18
 * (When I manually move cateogires, I use a summary similar to that, see ; while I don't have the word "Robot" at the beginning, I also link to the section, which is longer, and almost never had to deal with anoverflow of the summary length.) עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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Wine cocktails consensus
It appears your bot may have goofed with regard to category moving regarding wine cocktails. The consensus was to move Category:Cocktails with wine, sparkling wine, or port to Category:Cocktails with wine, but the bot moved it to Category:Wine cocktails instead, erroneously. Please fix.  Pur ple  back pack 89    04:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem was from how it was listed at WP:CFDW, not Cydebot. I'll contact the closing admin,, shortly. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  06:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Reprogrammed, this was my goof. The bot should make the correct move within the next hour or two. Courcelles (talk) 06:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Man-Faye (4th nomination)
You are invited to join the discussion at Articles for deletion/Man-Faye (4th nomination). --Gwern (contribs) 11:13 4 August 2010 (GMT) 11:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC) (Using )

Christ, I really don't wanna. -- Cyde Weys 13:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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Category: Volcanoes of the Luzon Stait
Hi,

This category used to be called Volcanoes in Luzon Strait. On April 11, 2010, it was changed, or the contents were moved by Cydebot to the new category Volcanoes of the Luzon Stait. Something got lost in the move - yes, the letter 'r'. The category should have been titled Volcanoes of the Luzon Strait. Could you please correct the error?

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 * In all likelihood this was a human typo error, not a problem with Cydebot. I've nominated the category for speedy renaming, so it will be fixed soon. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:12, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

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clydebot Category:Hart to Category:Places in Hart (district)
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 * Looks like it's populated by a template. I've made the change. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

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 * User:VeblenBot/PERtable? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That works, I suppose. Thanks! HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

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Portal category renames
Is Cydebot capable of handling renames of categories in portalspace? Please see this list for some categories that should be renamed, if Cydebot can do that. Failing that, do you know what can?--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:08, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll investigate this later tonight. -- Cyde Weys 14:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is some more discussion on this point. Feel free to weigh in.--Mike Selinker (talk) 19:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I haven't had time to get around to it yet. Schedule's been crazy. Hopefully soon. -- Cyde Weys 20:00, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk page & iw
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Category:Superleague Greece players
Regarding this change you made, the result seems to have been the loss of the page history, see. Is this history still about somehwere? Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 18:43, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, because of limitations in MediaWiki, category pages themselves cannot be moved. So the solution that retains as much functionality as possible is to copy the contents of the old page, delete it, and then paste those contents onto the new page. Yes, that loses the edit history. Yes, this has been pointed out before. No, there isn't a better solution. Fortunately it's only Category pages we're talking about, which tend to be rather mechanical in nature (e.g. "This is a category for footballers that have played in the Super League Greece competition, including its forerunner the Alpha Ethniki."), and thus copyright considerations don't come into play. If we were dealing with articles, then yeah, it'd be a bigger problem. -- Cyde Weys 21:55, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

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Robot problem
Hello, can you stop your bot from renaming the "Naval engagements of the ..... involving the United States" categories to "Naval battles of the ..... involving the United States"? Those categories were named for very specific reasons, particularly because all engagements fought by a county's navy are not considered battles. The categories should be renamed to their origional titles. A good example would be the ((Category:Naval battles of the Mexican-American War)) which was renamed. There was no ship to ship combat during the war so the only naval actions were bombardments of the coast and that is why "engagements" was used instead of "battles". I don't know if you can do anything about this but on the discussion pages for the categories, it says a bot contolled by you was responsible. Thanks --$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 23:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Please remove this category, I only added it in case you wanted to see it.

Category:Naval battles of the Mexican–American War


 * See the notice at User talk:Cydebot. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

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Cydebot
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Category page change
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Suggestion/question
I'm a brand-new admin. I'm mentioning this in advance, so if I'm missing something please assume ignorance, and correct me.

I'm trying to help out with the deletion of CSD and Prods. I'm frankly stunned at how many there are each day, but it is what it is, and they all have to be addressed. I deleted one today, and it was brought to my attention that I did the deletion a few hours early. I was told that your bot creates a list at midnight UTC of all prods expiring in the next day. This means that one must review the time stamp of each and every one, in addition to all the other things one needs to worry about. It doesn't make sense that we should have to do something manually that can better be done by a computer. I'm aware that there is another list sorted by time, but there shouldn't be a need to go that extra step.

I'm not going to make the obvious suggestion, that you run the bot continuously or hourly, and only include those eligible. I'm assuming there is some good reason to run it once a day. My suggestion is simple, just adjust the timing by one day. It means that some on the list may have been tagged for eight days rather than seven, by the time they are addressed, but given that many have been sitting around for years, one extra day is hardly going to make a difference (The other option is to change the rules so that they can be deleted after six days, but I understand the objection to that option.)

Is there any good reason for not making the adjustment? Then no one would have to check time stamps, and could concentrate on content.-- SPhilbrick  T  20:21, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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Cydebot leaving invalid edit summary
Hi, see by Cydebot: the edit summary contains a redlink. There are several others like this: most Cydebot edits between 12:17 and 12:19 today are similarly affected. -- Red rose64 (talk) 14:40, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That appears to be my fault. I thought Cydebot dealt with WP:SFD links, but these edit summaries show that that is not the case. It didn't effect many pages because the category is populated by the template Compu-stub, so this error shouldn't happen again. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  14:45, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

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 * Date: January 22, 2011 (tentatively 9:30 AM - 5 PM)
 * Location: National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), downtown building, Pennsylvania Avenue & 7th St NW.
 * Description: There will be a behind-the-scenes tour of the National Archives and you will learn more about what NARA does. We will also have a mini-film screening featuring FedFlix videos along with a special message from Jimmy Wales. In the afternoon, there will be lightning talks by Wikimedians (signup to speak), wiki-trivia, and cupcakes to celebrate!
 * Details & RSVP:  Details about the event are on our Washington, DC tenwiki page.

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Category deleted from four year-old discussion
Please undelete Category:3,000 hit club was deleted per Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_24, which was a pretty weak consensus from several years ago. If you think this should be deleted, I recommend that you restore it and post to WP:CFD. Please post any response to this on my talk. If you don't write back in a few days or decide against undeletion, I'll to to Deletion review. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:17, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * This category was added for deletion by here. Cydebot, being the good boy he is, just obeys the directions given at WP:CFDW. If you think the category should be restore, you should contact Good Olfactory. —  ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  00:56, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:05, 8 January 2011 (UTC)