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Deleting Thelema userbox
93, I was wondering why you deleted the Template:User thelema template? 93 93/93 JessicaSideways (talk) 04:26, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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May I
Now, may I finally use in the articles that were categorized reportedly haunted locations  back into the category that were erased by Berean Hunter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.81.235 (talk) 03:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This user was attempting to apply a category across a large number of articles claiming they were haunted without offering any citations to that affect. I removed initially as uncited but the IP repeated assertions that "Most of the information is unsourced and yes it is haunted". ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  03:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey
I want to bring back the people of African descent categories. Why get rid of them and keep the people of European descent categories? I'm starting with Category:Brazilian people of Black African descent, but I want to remove the word black from the title. How can I do that? B-Machine (talk) 16:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

An observation
It's interesting that CydeBot didn't catch this when moving the category that is the target of the redirect. I'm sure the folks at CfD would appreciate it if the bot were to do it in future, but at the same time, it's minimal effort to fix it once it's discovered. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  23:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

So to be clear, what you're looking for is for the bot to check all incoming links to a category it's about to delete following a category rename, and adjust the redirects? -- Cyde Weys 15:41, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Dalek video games
Template:Dalek video games has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Digifiend (talk) 20:55, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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Happy Adminship Anniversary
Wishing Cyde a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 00:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

"What links here" for categories
ClydeBot does not update links that go to a category that it moves. See Special:WhatLinksHere/Category:Skeptic_multimedia. I have to update a link on Category:Pseudoscience literature. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 22:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Admins are supposed to check and change the incoming links when a category gets renamed, but I believe it rarely is done. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:48, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The bot could be told to refuse to shift categories if the are linked to articles or update the links itself. "I didn't move that category because it was linked to articles." declared ClydeBot defiantly, his mechanical arms folded squarely across his cyber-chest." -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 00:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I do agree that having the bot automatically update all incoming links is not a good idea. At the same time, it'll be an interesting task to check the incoming links and figure out which ones to refuse to do work for. There's always going to be incoming links from Wikipedia project space (from CFD), so that should be ignored. Also, links from talk pages and such should be ignored? So is it just incoming links from namespace 0 and Category: to worry about? And where would the bot communicate these issues? -- Cyde Weys 19:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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Aborting & resetting the bot?
Is there any way that controls can be set to abort Cydebot's current category run and force it to pick up the list afresh? Recently some very time consuming categories with lots of large articles have been slowing proceedings down, but once the problem is discovered it's difficult to do anything about it.

Also is Cydebot definitely reading Categories for discussion/Working/Large? There were a few categories intercepted in time and parked there but the bot didn't seem to spot them until they were moved one by one to the main page. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

The bot is not currently reading /Large. I'm not sure if it ever was reading it, or at least not automatically? My memory is hazy, but maybe I used /Large for some manually triggered once-off runs? I suppose the real question is, what exactly is the problem here? Are some CFD changes so urgent that they can't wait their turn in line behind other runs that may be a lot larger? Are you thinking Cydebot needs two separate CFD pipelines, one for the normal stuff, and one for <tt>/Large</tt>, and both can run concurrently? -- Cyde Weys 20:36, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I (and, it seems, other administrators) was under the impression that there already was a separate pipeline for the large ones, meaning that regular category requests would not have to wait behind the super large ones, in turn allowing follow-up nominations to be made fairly quickly. Certainly that's the impression both the regular and large working pages give. The problem in this regard has been some categories have taken hours to process - there was a set of anime categories that took in the realm of 22 hours last week and another set of manga that took 12 - and if the problem isn't spotted before Cydebot picks up the request (in this case because it was article rather than category size) there doesn't seem to be a way to remove the category from the current workload. This in turn creates a large pile-up - see for instant the discussion on my talkpage about this. Timrollpickering (talk) 23:31, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Just as a refresher, WP:CFDWL was created as a result of the settlement categories CFD back in 2010. After this discussion with Cyde, I was also under the impression that CFDWL would always be read by Cydebot to not interfere with it's regular work dealing with the less-populated categories. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  21:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I think at some point it was my intention to have a separate pipeline for large ones, but for whatever reason, that never happened. Or maybe it was happening at one point, but it's no longer? Regardless, that's simple enough to do, so I've done it. I've got another instance of the bot running that's pointed at <tt>/Large</tt> now. The more difficult issue to deal with is having a way for other people to abort the running instance, like if someone accidentally put a day-long run into the normal working page and Cydebot already starts processing it. Obviously, the simplest way to accomplish this is to simply block Cydebot. That raises an exception in the bot which causes the process to exit. Just don't forget to unblock afterwards!

Beyond that, it's possible to have a better process. I'm using lockrun to ensure that multiple copies of the bot don't get fired off at once, and lockrun uses a filesystem lock for its locking. I can easily get the PID of the process that has the lock file locked by running <tt>lsof</tt>, then it's just a simple matter of sending SIGKILL to that process. The real issue is, what kind of mechanism do we want to have to allow people to trigger this sequence of events in the first place? How will authorization be handled? The simplest would just be to have a "KILL" page on-wiki that Cydebot regularly polls, and sends out the sigkill when that page is updated. We'd make that page protected for obvious reasons. But the lag time on this might be kind of long depending on what the polling interval is (and checking that page for updates every minute for a functionality that probably won't be used more than once a month is pretty inefficient).

It's going to take a fair amount of glue code any way you look at it to make a mechanism to cancel the CFD job, and I'm thinking that just blocking the bot for a few seconds might be the least resistance path. Thoughts? -- Cyde Weys 21:48, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, if someone wants to test out WP:CFDWL by putting a (non-large) category rename/removal or two, that's fine. -- Cyde Weys 00:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Cydebot down
Just to forestall the inevitable notice, yes, Cydebot is down right now. The server didn't take too well to an attempted OS upgrade. I'll go there in person later tonight to fix it. -- Cyde Weys 19:04, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Whoop, good news, it came back up on its own after another ten minutes. I guess it was sitting at some slow upgrade screen on the reboot for awhile or something. -- Cyde Weys 19:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Old fooians
As your bot renamed Old Norvicensians -> People educated at Norwich School (independent school), could I ask that you also rename Old Greshamians so that there is some commonality retained between categories? Thanks. :) DiverScout (talk) 09:57, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedia categories named after companies of Canada
I went to the CFD link for Category:Wikipedia categories named after companies of Canada but didn't see any discussion on the March 3rd page. Me-123567-Me (talk) 06:05, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Cydebot issue?
I noticed that Cydebot no longer seems to be deleting emptied categories at WP:CFD/Working when the target category is a bluelink, i.e. for mergers - thought you might want to look into this. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:12, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

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Cydebot down?
It doesn't seem to have edited for 18 hours - I don't know if that's deliberate or not. Timrollpickering (talk) 21:15, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Yup, I'm aware, it should be coming back online in a few hours. Damn Pepco ... Cyde Weys 21:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

en dashes
Hi,

You've moved a bunch of categories from hyphens to en dashes, such as Category:Mon–Khmer languages, using Cydebot. The problem is that WP:HotCat now fails to recognize the hyphenated forms, which is how most people will try to enter them. (It's not a problem for me, since I have a keyboard shortcut, but it will be a problem for most editors.)

Could you either move them back, or adjust HotCat to associate hyphens with dashes? I'll drop a request at HotCat too.

Thanks, — kwami (talk) 04:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

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Wiki Userbox Generator
Hi, I noticed that the link to your generator is incorrect. I found this to work though http://www.cydeweys.com/teamgamer/cgi-bin/wikiubx.pl BigJoeRockHead (talk) 04:38, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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Redundant category code
See diff. I believe that the category code should have been removed rather than replaced since Category:Khmer temples in Thailand already was present. If I recall correctly, Cydebot used to do this, so perhaps this is a recent or one-time issue. Best, -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

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Another Cydebot stall?
For about two hours as of now. Related to persistent database server lag perhaps? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:31, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And it's stalled again. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:04, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Not just a stall, the server was off for a day or two because the flooring in the room it was being housed in was being ripped up and reinstalled. -- Cyde Weys 16:17, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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your bot deleted my user page
hi there. your bot deleted my user page (User:Dainomite) when it was supposed to delete the Category:User:Dainomite Category only. Can you please restore my user page? thanks for your time.
 * ✅, that was rather odd. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  23:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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Cydebot down again...
...since around ~15:00 on the 29th. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:56, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Yup. I'm well aware. Power still isn't back on in my area on account of the June 2012 North American derecho. When power is restored the server will be coming back up. -- Cyde Weys 14:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hey
Just a quick note to say it was good to hang out and talk with you at Wikimania. I had a blast. -- David  Shankbone  01:04, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

It was nice meeting you too, especially after all of these years! -- Cyde Weys 18:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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Cydebot down
since 12:45 on the 20th. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:56, 21 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. There was a bad lightning storm last night that knocked out power.  It's back up now.  -- Cyde Weys  16:19, 21 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Ouch. Those are never fun. Glad things are alright! - The Bushranger One ping only 18:35, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hi
Hi Cyde. I noticed Cydebot reverting at User:Floquenbeam, and was going to put a wp:dttr uw-3rr on it's talk page - but I don't recall interacting with you before; so I wasn't sure you'd appreciate the humor. Is there a way you could tell the bot to leave that "Cat" there? Thanks. — Ched : ?  22:32, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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Backstage at the Smithsonian Libraries
Backstage at the Smithsonian Libraries is part of Wikipedia Loves Libraries 2012, the second annual continent-wide campaign to bring Wikipedia and libraries together with on-site events. Running this fall through October and November, libraries (and archives) will open their doors to help build a lasting relationship with their local Wikipedian community.

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Stop your bot making disruptive moves!
Please stop your bot from making moves such as this that had no discussion or even warning that it was going to happen. Bidgee (talk) 09:26, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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Deletion
Why did you delete the Israeli war crimes page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.144.86.140 (talk) 18:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Lesula
Hello! Your submission of Lesula at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:54, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Lesula
Hello! Your submission of Lesula at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:54, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh well, I guess it doesn't meet the qualifications then. -- Cyde Weys 19:12, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

What's happened to Cydebot
Hi Cyde

I see that the bot is busy making its lists, but that it has done no edits to article space since 22:40, 10 October 2012. Its last edit to a category was on 22:39, 10 October 2012.

Can it be fixed? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:26, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Cydebot is back at work.
 * Thanks again for maintaining such an important bot :) -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:12, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, it's not looking quite as good as I thought. The bot is processing speedy category moves, but not the other WP:CFD/W entries. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:47, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

There was an error on one of the CFDW entries: I commented it out for now. Unfortunately I don't have time to debug and solve the error at this moment, but I'll get back to it soon and figure it out. The rest of the moves are proceeding as normal. -- Cyde Weys 18:57, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre 1914–1918 (France) to Category:Recipients of the Croix de Guerre 1914–1918 (France)
 * Thanks! -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:20, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hundreds
You bot has just done (Robot - Speedily moving category Hundreds (county subdivision) to Category:Hundreds (country subdivision) per CFDS.) why?--Kitchen Knife (talk) 13:34, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
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