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Hi, is Cydebot down? It doesn't seem to have edited anything for 24 hours. Timrollpickering (talk) 21:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

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This week's articles for improvement - 22 July 2013 to 28 July 2013
posted by Northamerica1000(talk) 11:29, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Substance dependence
Hello. FYI, your bot that renames a category to "Category:Substance dependence" does not check to ensure that this category does not already exist, causing a few pages to then have this category on the page twice. I have deleted the two instances I found using AWB. Cheers. —Prhartcom  (talk)  15:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

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A suggestion for improving Cydebot...
The bot could consider removing duplicate categories when it creates some, see. Cheers --Edcolins (talk) 13:02, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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Eleanor Roosevelt
Hello, I have a request to make. Can we change the White House portrait of Eleanor Roosevelt to this: File:Eleanor Roosevelt cph.3b16000.jpg. It is because most portraits I see of First Ladies, as well as the Presidents, usually depict their pictures taken when their husbands were in office as President. And where to put them? In the information border of the Article.

I had the same confusion with Herbert Hoover once, assuming he was an old old man as President. As soon as I opened the page, I was wrong. This was due to his white house portrait showing him at an old age while his other picture, the first one you see, clearly shows him younger and when he had hair and wore his high collar shirts.

Point is, pages of First Ladies of the United States should show biography pictures of them during the period they were serving and not after they served, unless if they served another occupation afterwards (ex. Hilary Clinton, after serving as First Lady, later became Secretary of State). But in the case of Eleanor Roosevelt, she was not an old lady who had white hair when she was First Lady. She had brown hair and looked very young and pretty when her husband was President.

So this is why I am requesting a change. I am not saying you delete the White House Portrait of Lady Roosevelt in favor of the highlighted file. I am saying maybe you should move it to another part of the page and put the younger Eleanor above instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marino13 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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Wah Yan College, Hong Kong
The bot was not removing a category from this article. I think the reason is that there was a blacklisted link in there. Once I removed that I was able to save my edit. I left the category to see if the bot can run after that change. If this is correct, I don't know how to avoid this case or have the bot work. It would be nice to have a warning about this. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:07, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

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We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 11:38, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Double adding of categories
See this edit for details. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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Are you free next Thursday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!
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We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 14:54, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Toni Calvo
hello, may i ask please whats the purpose of blanking the whole right bar of Toni Calvo ? bots recent edit [here] makes me wonder Argento1985  01:14, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Category processing stalled
Looks like speedies are not being processed. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:13, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Cydebot is still not processing CFDS, although it appears to be working all other functions normally? - The Bushranger One ping only 22:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Now it's completely down. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:56, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Still down. AvicBot is enabled, so when fixed that needs to be turned off. As  recall this bot does not do everything. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks to be working now. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:37, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The bot came back, created a new category and than the CFD task died again. Maybe a Toolserver issue? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, seems to be running except for categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:37, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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Cydebot stopped?
Cydebot hasn't carried out any category changes since 28 August 2013 (see contribs). Is it "down for repairs" or is this a bug? Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:58, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I think Cydebot has a problem with recategorising pages. The CFDW function of it dies since the above date every time after it created a new category. Armbrust The Homunculus 12:56, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 05:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Nutritional Value on the Cinnabon Page
Hi Cyde,

I am working on a class project with a group to edit the Cinnabon page. Would it be okay to add more information about Nutritional Value? Onlinecommedits (talk) 18:52, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

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Are you free on Sunday? Join us for a special Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!
Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for a special WikiSalon at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Library's Digital Commons Center. We will gather at 3 PM on Sunday, October 13, 2013 to discuss an important topic: what can Wikipedia and the DC area do to help each other? We hope to hear your thoughts and suggestions; if you have an idea you would like to pursue, please let us know and we will help!

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Just to let you know -- Missing Wikipedians
You have been mentioned at Missing Wikipedians. XOttawahitech (talk) 02:05, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. That's clearly wrong, huh? -- Cyde Weys 01:33, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Good to hear. XOttawahitech (talk) 02:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Error Messages
Good Evening, I have made a bot & tried to use it before getting approval, But Errors Messages appeared after I gave the orders, I will be very grateful to you if you help me to know how to resolve it.

The messages: Thank you alot. --عراقي1 (talk) 14:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
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Moving articles to higher categories may not be helpful
Hi, I noted that in the article on Peronopsis you're bot changed Category:Prehistoric animals of Australia to Category:Prehistoric animals of Oceania. In my thinking, that is not helpful. Peronopsis is only known from the country Australia, and not from anywhere else in Oceania. I'm actually of the opinion, the categorisation should develop into more specific categories, both in place and in time. All Australian occurrences of Peronopsis are from the Northern Territories, so I would have applauded a move to Category:Trilobites of the Northern Territories instead (but it does not exist yet). I would like to hear your view. Kind regards, Dwergenpaartje (talk) 13:40, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I doubt Cyde has any particular personal opinions on the matter as his bot was merely implementing a decision reached after an unopposed nomination for renaming the category in May 2013 ("Category:Prehistoric animals of Australia to Category:Prehistoric animals of Oceania – C2C: Category:Fauna by continent tree uses "Oceania", not "Australia". Category is part of tree Category:Fauna by continent > Category:Prehistoric animals by continent > cat in question.") Note how Peronopsis is in, ,  and , not in categories for every country (let alone part of a country) within those continents in which members of the genus have been found. BencherliteTalk 13:52, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Anti-vandal-bot
I wanted to tell you that maybe the bot could block users if they consistently vandal pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creeper919 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Sent Cyde a message regarding the deletion of Base58.
Hi Cyde,

Would you mind explaining the deletion of Base58 that you approved. The deletion log says "Non-notable ASCII encoding format, not a reference in sight, not a good candidate for an encyclopedia article." Whereas User talk:Cypheranarchy has a notice saying "Can find no reliable source for such a complex means of representing binary data. Suspect the article is a hoax". This second message is wrong because Base64 and Base32 exist. What I am really asking is why do you feel it is "Non-notable". Please see the German Base58 page for more information. (use Google Translate). If you don't object I'll recreate it with better content.

Thanks. --Bardi1100 (talk) 04:33, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Base58, in the formulation as used in the German Wikipedia article you cited, is nothing more than an extremely minor technical implementation detail of Bitcoin. It does not need nor merit its own article. It can be explained in a few sentences in the Bitcoin article if you *really* think it's that important. -- Cyde Weys 02:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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Repeated categories
Hi, I thought CydeBot used to check for existing categories when merging, but now it adds repeat categories e.g. here.

Also, does it build the edit summary from the CfD tag on the category page of the category that it is removing? IMHO it would be better to use the link to the CfD page given in the listing on the Working page. This is because CfDs are sometimes relisted without updating all the tagged pages.

In the case cited above, the tag was added on 5 August but the CfD discussion was on the 27 August page. This was an error on the part of the person who added the category into an existing nomination, but I was hoping to get a correct link in the edit summary – it would have worked if Cydebot would link to the date that was listed at WP:CFDW. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:05, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Andreea Marin Bănică
Hello, i writing you, because i can't understand what you delete my article about the Romanian presenter, Andreea Marin, this was my work for a day, to collect informations etc., please revert the version I edit with the reliable sources.

Thanks --2A02:2F0E:D0AF:FFFF:0:0:BC18:8C24 (talk) 07:10, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

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A Cydebot issue
It doesn't appear to be processing Categories_for_discussion/Working/Retain. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

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British naval personnel of the Napoleonic Wars
Hello,

The above is a useful description to cover both personnel of the Royal Navy, and personnel of the Royal Marines. It is factually incorrect to state that he was in the Royal Navy, as this is contradicted by many sources. Please revert this. Thanks Keith H99 (talk) 20:00, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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CFD text left behind
Here is one of several recent category moves where Cydebot created a new category page, and included four comment lines from the CFD template. Can it be fixed to recognise and exclude these? It may have been confused because the CFM template was used when the target did not exist, i.e. CFR should have been used (rename rather than merge).

In case any of this helps with diagnosis: – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:02, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The discussion was at Nov 20.
 * Ignore Category:People of Taino descent and Category:American people of Taino descent because the target names for those were malformed, so I did those manually.
 * The other 8 had the CFD comment lines copied into the new pages; I have not yet removed them from the new Cydebot-created page Category:Taíno language.
 * I undeleted and redirected the old category pages for the 8 that had been processed by Cydebot.

Thanks for the heads up. Let me look into it. Very useful links too; makes it easy to investigate. -- Cyde Weys 14:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Here's what I've found. First of all, reference the following code from catlib.py in PyWikipediaBot, which I wrote waaaay back (probably over 5 years ago now):

Note that it's specifically searching for <tt>&lt;!--BEGIN CFD TEMPLATE--&gt;</tt> and <tt>&lt;!--END CFD TEMPLATE--&gt;</tt> as a wrapper around all of the substed template markup to remove. Note how that's always "CFD". If you inspect Cfm, you'll see that it uses those same tokens. What I can't understand is where the <tt>&lt;!--BEGIN CFM TEMPLATE--&gt;</tt> text came from in Solar-Wind's CFM nomination. I can't find any relevant templates that include that tag with "CFM" in it. They should all be "CFD". I'll go ask him if he changed that manually, or if he's using some template that I'm not aware of, in which case the markers in it should be the same as on Cfm. -- Cyde Weys 15:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ah, it was just a manual edit to build a multiple nomination. Thanks for looking into it. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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Category duplication
Hi. In this edit, your bot changed Category:Elite Guard to Category:Autobots although the article already contains Category:Autobots creating a duplicated category entry. Please adjust your code so that the bot does not add duplicated categories. Thanks. --Meno25 (talk) 15:37, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Don't bite the newbies
Hi, I notice that you had deleted this redirect, years ago. There are still 55 pages that link to it. Also, we now have R to project to identify Wikipedia-specific redirects, so that mirror sites can easily omit them. Do you feel that it should remain deleted? &mdash; rybec   19:48, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I briefly looked through a list of several thousand articles using that template, and I don't think there's any precedent for having random phrases that aren't actually articles polluting article space. If you search Wikipedia for "Don't bite the newbies", the correct project-space article is the first result. What do you think having an article redirect by that name will accomplish? How often do you think newbies are actually searching for that phrase anyway? -- Cyde Weys 02:48, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for answering promptly. I saw you hadn't edited since 1 December so that was a pleasant surprise.

There are a lot of redirects from the Wikipedia:, Help: and MOS: name-spaces that are tagged with R to project, aren't there? However, I was able to find Crime Task Force, Account creator, 沙盒, Intdablink, Wikidoption, Wikimentor, Citation template, What Wikipedia is not and Admin coaching among them. I wouldn't use such a pejorative description as "random phrases that aren't actually articles polluting article space" but they do seem rather similar to Don't bite the newbies, don't they? I noticed a link to the deleted page while reading someone's post on a talk page. I knew what the poster meant, but clearly the poster anticipated that some readers would not, and therefore made the link. As I mentioned, there were 55 pages where such a link has been used. If this were restored, then the links on those pages would work as intended. &mdash; rybec   09:50, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

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Please check the page "List of MP's elected in the UK 1905"  are the references OK? cheers Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.74.196 (talk) 08:21, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

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