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A small bug in Cydebot? (2 namespaces in category title)
Hi Cyde

It seems that the bot had some difficulty parsing the name of a page which appears to contain two namespaces.

Category:User:Terraflorin was discussed at CFD 2013 December 17#Category:User:Terraflorin, and closed as delete. The closing editor (User:Od Mishehu) promptly listed the category at WP:CFD/W.

This all looks straightforward so far, and the bot correctly removed the 4 pages from the category. However, it then performed two deletions: user and.

The user page User:Terraflorin should not have been deleted, and when the user spotted it I was asked to help (see User talk:Terraflorin ). I restored the userpage.

I see that a warning about this has been in place in WP:CFD/W's editnotice since June 2010. I should have spotted before, but maybe it's an indication of how little editnotices are read that I never spotted it, and that this issue arose when the editnotice's creator forgot about it.

I know it's a rare issue, but is there any chance that this could be fixed?

Ideally the bot would not get confused by cases like this, but otherwise would it be possible to just set it to ignore them?

Thanks again for all the great work which cydebot does :) -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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Cydebot working or not?
Cydebot's contributions show that it is running, but it has done nothing on categories since it stopped halfway through a merge at 22:18, 23 January 2014‎. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:42, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Special:Contributions/ArmbrustBot seems to have taken over the work now. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:03, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm trying to look into it. Once I get it up and running again I'm going to start running Cydebot from a second location for backup purposes. The present server is simply too unreliable.

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Coming up in February!
Hello there!

Our February WikiSalon is coming up on Sunday, February 23. Join us at our gathering of Wikipedia enthusiasts at the Kogod Courtyard of the National Portrait Gallery with an optional dinner after. As usual, all are welcome. Care to join us?

Also, if you are available, there is an American Art Edit-a-thon being held at the Smithsonian American Art Museum with Professor Andrew Lih's COMM-535 class at American University on Tuesday, February 11 from 2 to 5 PM. Please RSVP on the linked page if you are interested.

If you have any ideas or preferences for meetups, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/DC.

Thank you, and hope to see you at our upcoming events! Harej (talk) 18:41, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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Cydebot
Cydebot is repeatedly replacing Symbol with Non-free symbol. The edit summary is "Robot - Renaming non-free template "Symbol" per Non-free content/templates." --buffbills7701 21:47, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. That template used to be something different (it was previously a non-free content template). It's no longer that, so the bot behavior no longer makes sense, so I removed it from the processing list. -- Cyde Weys 03:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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DC Meetups in March
 Happy March!

Though we have a massive snowstorm coming up, spring is just around the corner! Personally, I am looking forward to warmer weather.

Wikimedia DC is looking forward to a spring full of cool and exciting activities. In March, we have coming up:


 * Evening WikiSalon on Wednesday, March 12 from 7 PM – 9 PM. Meet up with Wikipedians for coffee at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle! If you cannot make it in the evening, join us at our...
 * March Meetup on Sunday, March 23 from 3 PM – 6 PM. Our monthly weekend meetup, same place as last month. Meet really cool and interesting people!
 * Women in the Arts 2014 meetup and edit-a-thon on Sunday, March 30 from 10 AM – 5 PM. Our second annual Women in the Arts edit-a-thon, held at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free lunch will be served!

We hope to see you at our upcoming events! If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.

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Category removals
Hello Cydebot,

I've noticed you often removed categories that are being nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. However, it would be better to wait until the categories have been officially deleted, merged, or renamed. That is all.

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Possible bot error
Look at Categories for discussion/Working empty and delete for Feb 18. Category:Recipients of the Médaille Militaire seems stuck. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:42, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:PopupImage
Template:PopupImage has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 10:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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Your bot is replacing my template with a licensing template
DVD is being replaced by a licensing template improperly. Please revert the changes of the last day. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 05:04, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

same question as re the Sorbs category but with a twist
Hi again; because Category:Squamish was recently recreated, again mistakenly with too many complications to get into here, including the speedying of the Skwxwu7mesh sidebar template to "Squamish" (which has since been changed by yours truly, as the PRIMARYTOPIC of that name is the town and a series of CfDs and an attempt to redo the RM with more input; the first one was closed in 7 days, the second recently in 8, with incorrect opinions being given more weight than the reality of the situation and standing conventions about indigenous titles on BC indigenous groups. The history of the one that was created by CFDS on Dec 6 2011 is gone, and that of its predecessor Category:Sḵwx̱wú7mesh.  Your bot page says that the bot can be programmed for any such task, but because those histories are deleted I can't find out who that was; and I'd really like to know, for one thing as though the Skwxwu7mesh title had been stable for six years, the first hasty RM was quickly followed by a bot-programmed CFDS within 7 days to a very questionable, disputable topic (the latest CfD was shut down because people, including the closer, invoke TLDR as a reason to not learn about the issues...which I won't go on about, but I'd really like to know who programmed that to happen; I have my suspicions, let's put it that way. Other "FOO people" titles that were around at the time were NOT CFDS'd to similarly awkward category names, and I managed to get 6 of those RMd back to where they had been for so long before they were speedied to archaic/geographically confusing names; this one's different in that there was an RM; but I and other people who have lived in the Squamish area, including one who's Skwxwu7mesh himself and was the principal architect of that article, were not around Wikipedia at the time (the insinuation in the RM was, in fact, that because we weren't around who cares what we think...). I have a bit of detective work going on about this, and feel that the use of CFDS so soon after any move request should be considered in light of how long the article had been at its previous title......and why was it only this one? So who programmed it? Do you have archives that can tell me? And what their rationale was, other than "category must match main article title" as if that were a policy and ironclad (it's not, as you probably know).Skookum1 (talk) 14:16, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It's in the page history of WP:CFDS; here's a link to the version just before it was passed to the bot: 23:52, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

details on the change of Category:Sorbs to Category:Sorbian people - was this by CfD or CFDS in the wake of an RM?
I was about to create Category:Sorbs to match the main article Sorbs as Category:Sorbian people should be for individuals only. Was this an RM that caused a CFDS or was there an actual CfD that mandated this?Skookum1 (talk) 09:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The main way to trace CFDs it to use "what links here" from the old or new category page. This one was included in Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_March_10 – – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:57, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

An exciting month of wiki events!
 Hello there,

I am pleased to say that April will be a very exciting month for Wikipedia in Washington, DC. We have a lot of different events coming up, so you will have a lot to choose from.

First, a reminder that our second annual Women in the Arts Edit-a-Thon will take place on Sunday, March 30 at the National Museum of Women in the Arts.

Coming up in April, we have our first-ever Open Government WikiHack with the Sunlight Foundation on April 5–6! We are working together to use open government data to improve the Wikimedia projects, and we would love your help. All are welcome, regardless of coding or editing experience. We will also be having a happy hour the day before, with refreshments courtesy of the Sunlight Foundation.

On Friday, April 11 we are having our first edit-a-thon ever with the Library of Congress. The Africa Collection Edit-a-Thon will focus on the Library's African and Middle East Reading Room. It'll be early in the morning, but it's especially worth it if you're interested in improving Wikipedia's coverage of African topics.

The following day, we are having our second annual Wiki Loves Capitol Hill training. We will discuss policy issues relevant to Wikimedia and plan for our day of outreach to Congressional staffers that will take place during the following week.

There are other meetups in the works, so be sure to check our meetup page with the latest. I hope to see you at some of these events!

All the best, James Hare

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CFD template lines left in
Hi Cyde, Cydebot left in 5 out of 6 CFD template lines from here when it created this page.

It has done the same here, which I have not yet remedied. Can I leave it to you to check other recent pages created?

This was the Working page from which it took its instructions. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:43, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It's still doing it. 22:28, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Still doing it, e.g.. Category:Populated places in the San Pedro Department, Paraguay – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * And still... Category:Ukrainian spree killers – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:35, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

I figured it out and tracked it back to this edit. The bot had not been set up to handle the addition of those spaces in the HTML comment. I modified the regex it's using so that it'll handle it either way. I do wonder why someone even bothered to make that edit in the first place; minor vandalism, knowing it might throw off a bot? -- Cyde Weys 19:34, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
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Cydebot's edits are being questioned
FYI: Cydebot's edits are being questioned as being invalid. The editor who is questioning your bots changes attempted to contact you here on your talk page but you declined to respond to a problem that was indicated and let it be archived (which is a failure of WP:BOTCOMM. If you do not respond to the thread at WP:BOTREQ I will petition to have the bot blocked until you can fix the problem. Hasteur (talk) 13:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Please send me an email next time. It's the best way to reach me. -- Cyde Weys 19:52, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

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Two edit-a-thons coming up!
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Hello there!

I'm pleased to tell you about two upcoming edit-a-thons:


 * This Tuesday, April 29, from 2:30 to 5:30 PM, we have the Freer and Sackler edit-a-thon. (Sorry for the short notice!)
 * On Saturday, May 10 we have the Wikipedia APA edit-a-thon, in partnership with the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center, from 10 AM to 5 PM.

We have more stuff coming up in May and June, so make sure to keep a watch on the DC meetup page. As always, if you have any recommendations or requests, please leave a note on the talk page.

Best,

James Hare

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Meet up with us
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Happy May!

There are a few meetups in DC this month, including an edit-a-thon later this month. Check it out:
 * On Thursday, May 15 come to our evening WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle. If you're available Thursday evening, feel free to join us!
 * Or if you prefer a Saturday night dinner gathering, we also have our May Meetup at Capitol City Brewing Company. (Beer! Non-beer things too!)
 * You are also invited to the Federal Register edit-a-thon at the National Archives later this month.

Come one, come all!

Best,

James Hare

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Categories becoming movable
Please see Administrators' noticeboard/Archive262 to see if the changes being made are relevant to your bot's operations at CfD. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:07, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Yes, I will have some changes to make to the bot once this goes live to use Special:Move instead of copy-paste. Ultimately the result will be cleaner, so that's a good thing! -- Cyde Weys 19:53, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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A cheeseburger for you!
Mmmmm, tasty. -- Cyde Weys 12:35, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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Washington, DC meetups in June
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Greetings!

Wikimedia DC has yet another busy month in June. Whether you're a newcomer to Wikipedia or have years of experience, we're happy to see you come. Here's what's coming up:


 * On Wednesday, June 11 from 7 to 9 PM come to the WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space. Hang out with Wikipedia enthusiasts!
 * Saturday, June 14 is the Frederick County History Edit-a-Thon from 11 AM to 4 PM. Help improve local history on Wikipedia.
 * The following Saturday, June 21, is the June Meetup. Dinner and drinks with Wikipedians!
 * Come on Tuesday, June 24 for the Wikipedia in Your Library edit-a-thon at GWU on local and LGBT history.
 * Last but not least, on Sunday, June 29 we have the Phillips Collection Edit-a-Thon in honor of the Made in America exhibit.

Wikipedia is better with friends, so why not come out to an event?

Best,

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The article coolie.
Please remove Coolie and Indentured Laborer from the Slavery Category

First of all the Category must be changed from Slavery to Indentured Worker. If a category was not created for Indentured Worker then in should be. Coolie should not be lumped in the category of slavery because it is false. Second the etymology for coolie is hired laborer or wages. And kuli in Turkish means hireling. Many people of Indian and Chinese background took exception to this article because they knew that a lot of the subject matter in this article is false and misleading. Indians have land today because of the work that they did; slavery and coolie cannot be compared. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/coolie

Coolies were given wages, land, and houses for their labor. Generally speaking people today are not even given this. This resulted in a lot of jealousy and anger from African slaves towards coolies and perhaps rightfully so. Indian coolies were paid about $45 dollars a day plus food and clothing. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/136194/coolie http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/indian-indentured-labour.htm http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/11/25/247166284/a-history-of-indentured-labor-gives-coolie-its-stinghttp: http://www.sahistory.org.za/politics-and-society/anti-indian-legislation-1800s-1959

80% of the immigrants who came to the Chesapeake Bay colonies were white, European indentured laborers. Indentured laborers were: White Europeans, Chinese, Indians, and other Asian ethnic groups and these people were not slaves. "Coolie" needs to be listed under a category called Indentured Worker or it should not be in a category at all. Coolie should simply not be listed under the category of Slavery because that is very false and is misleading to the public. How do I remove "coolie" from the category Slavery or get a new category created entitled Indentured Laborer? https://sites.google.com/site/rydenonushistory/home/directory-study-guides/southern-english-colonies Also the etymology of coolie is "hired laborer" or an "unskilled Asian Laborer" There are several other etymology used in the present article that is not relevant and they must be removed. Can you please remove this. Thank you for your help. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=coolie http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/coolie To me it is obvious that this article was written to degrade peoples whose ancestry goes back to Asia. Coolies and Europeans were both indentured laborers. They were majority unskilled workers and a minority of skilled workers that were paid.

Coolies were paid and given land in exchange for work. How could this possibly be classed as slavery? Most WHITE Europeans that came to the United States when this country first started were indentured servants. 80-90% of all white Europeans that came to the Chesapeake Region of the United States were Indentured Servants. 80%-90%... that's a large number right... Over 60% of all white colonial immigrants were indentured servants... are you saying that all these white people were slaves? Check out the source from encyclopedia... http://www.answers.com/topic/indentured-servant Coolie / Indentured Servitude should not be classed as slavery and that is a fact. This must be edited. I would like to be contacted by an editor who can remove "Coolie" and "Indentured Servitude" from the Slavery Category — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richey90211 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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The Great American Wiknic and other events in July
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I am pleased to announce our fourth annual picnic, the Great American Wiknic, will take place at Meridian Hill Park in Washington, D.C. on Sunday, July 13 from 1 to 5 PM (rain date: July 20). We will be hanging out by the statue of Dante Alighieri, a statue that was donated to the park in 1921 as a tribute to Italian Americans. Read more about the statue on Wikipedia. If you would like to sign up for the picnic, you can do so here. When signing up, say what you’re going to bring!

July will also feature the second annual Great American Wiknic in Frederick, Maryland. This year’s Frederick picnic will take place on Sunday, July 6 at Baker Park. Sign up here for the Frederick picnic.

What else is going on in July? We have the American Chemical Society Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, July 12, dedicated to notable chemists, and our monthly WikiSalon on Wednesday, July 16.

We hope to see you at our upcoming events!

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