User talk:Cymru.lass/Archive 2

Backlog Elimination Drive Has Begun
Hello, I just wanted to take a moment and announce that the July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive has started, and will run for a month. Thanks for signing up. There's a special prize for most edits on the first day, in case you've got high ambitions. Enjoy! ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 04:15, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive Wrap-up
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Those edits
OH yes, I did immediately ask at the Infobox character talk page and a friend whether my reversion was justified. At the moment we're trying to track templates using multiple unlabelled fields and keep them to a bare minimum of quick essentials for understanding the character. I was debating whether "family" counted, or significant others, in the same way Buffy's powers might. My feeling is that it might matter for Dawn, but does it deserve infobox-level weight on Buffy's page? Riley? Joyce? That Joyce is Buffy's mother -- her entire function on the show -- should be something attended to in the lead, and which comes over in every section of prose in the article. I am not sure. I don't mean to be draconian. Apologies if this comes over a little stream-of-consciousness: I'm currently whisky-in-hand.~ZytheTalk to me! 19:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we're on the same page. Bear with the following example. For me, I read the Laurie Strode article and I think to myself that the only key information re: family is who her brother is, killer Michael Myers. On evaluation, many of the Halloween movies lynch on the fact that the main character is Laurie's daughter, so perhaps she should have mention. And in the Halloween H20 retcon, her son is played by a notable actor and is important if only as a retcon of the previous daughter character. Instead, I go there, and every so often I find an editor has added the sister, Unnamed Father, Unnamed mother (original), Mother's name (remakes), etc. etc. and it's all unnecessary. Or on Donna Noble, under species, there was listed this long and confusing narrative explaining she started human and became a "Human/Time Lord Metacrisis", whatever that means, so it was easiest just to remove the field altogether. If it's not clear-cut, it's a matter for the prose of the article, I feel. So my take is, and I think this is the consensus on Template talk:Infobox character, is that scarce, important facts go in the infobox (especially the kind that would requite awkward wording to squeeze into a summary style plot) and for everything else, the maxim should be less is more. What are your thoughts? Maybe as Wikipedians we should go towards writing a WP:essay on the matter.~ZytheTalk to me! 19:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Big Buffy fan, don't worry. Well, the husband isn't important -- he's less than a ghost in the series. We can infer from her having daughters and there being no mention of immaculate conception that there is a father. Buffy and Dawn are her daughters, and that is her tether within the universe of the show to notability, so I think for a character like Joyce who has no powers, credo or greater role maybe it's okay. After all, her role is MOTHER and A NICE LADY in the series; that her role is defined as such should be found, made part of the article's Lead section, and discussed further in a Development section. I also think it might be crucial information for Dawn that she's Buffy's sister, but then again, that invites us to add Hank, Joyce, her wishy-washy Key status, all that jazz, into the infobox: instead, "was introduced in the season five premiere as Buffy's never heretofore seen sister" might cover that nicely in the Lead. The surname, a big part of the infobox, and a picture of the actress (Yes! Pictures have a deductive purpose, woo!) should clue us in that she's a relation of Buffy's; it's not too much to ask the reader's eye to wander to the prose.~ZytheTalk to me! 19:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Tell you what. I'll give heads up tomorrow a that talk page, maybe those experienced editors will want to give their own heads up on the matter. Someone draft it. Someone rewrite it. Someone rewrite it. Then put it up. Because it's gonna take ages anyway there's no urgency, just yet.~ZytheTalk to me! 20:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Long time no see
Just dropping by to say howdy; how are you? Salvio Let's talk 'bout it! 22:40, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

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Gaza Holocaust listed at Redirects for discussion
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Your editor review
Have you considered transcluding the review either onto WP:ER or the archives? I think that's part of the reason why you haven't been reviewed in over a month now. :| TelCo NaSp  Ve :|  04:19, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, whoopsie! Forgot to do that! Thank you --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 14:30, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem.  :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  21:34, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks from the GOCE
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Siliguri Institute Of Technology
Hi cymru.lass; I see you tagged Siliguri Institute Of Technology for speedy per A7. However, that's a school and schools are not eligible under A7. I tried to see if it gets zapped per G11, as it seems blatantly promotional... Just to let you know. Cheers. Salvio Let's talk 'bout it! 11:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Whoops, I did not know that! Thanks for letting me know --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 16:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem: that's one of the common errors we all made. A7 is not for schools or softwares...
 * That said, you're doing a jolly god job at tagging new pages for speedy and that was your only error, as far as I could see! Salvio  Let's talk 'bout it! 16:24, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, that's good. I keep feeling like I'm making some major screw-up whenever I tag something... Then again, it's probably just me! --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 17:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Clarence Bass
Hello Cymru.lass, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Clarence Bass, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Netalarm talk 19:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * All right, thanks for letting me know! --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 19:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Just a note, you can try WP:PROD or WP:AFD to delete that article if you believe it meets the criteria. I've done a quick review of it, and it appears that most of the references are weak primary sources or promotional/spammy in nature. Netalarm talk 05:00, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I won't right now because it has an underconstruction banner on it, but if, in a few days, it still hasn't improved its sources, etc. I will use prod or AfD. --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 15:33, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

from David A. Gross, movie review intelligence
Hi Cymru, thanks for your note on my talk page. I appreciate the heads up about all the great things on Wikipdia, including all the ways to help. As you can probably imagine, at the moment I'm a little disappointed that my request to have a link on the page for Movie Review Intelligence was denied, due to conflict of interest. I'm not sure I understand the rationale, since there's no way to abuse such a link -- it's simply there for readers' edification, should they want to use it -- but I respect it. Anyway, Wikipedia seems like a great place and it's wonderful that many great people such as yourself are enthusiastic about helping. Thanks again for your note. Dagrossla (talk) 20:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikify Drive
Since you signed up for the September 2010 GOCE event, I wanted to invite you to participate in a similar event: the September 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive. In case you didn't know, "Wikification" is the process of formatting articles using Wiki markup (as opposed to plain text or HTML) and adding internal links to material. Barnstars will be awarded to participating editors. Thanks!

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Talkback

 * Once again, cymru (can I call you cymru?). Salvio  Let's talk 'bout it! 19:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)