User talk:CynRN

Thanks!
.. for the compliment! I agree with the "dense" description, too. Feel free to "thin" anything that comes to mind. -- Dēmatt (chat)  19:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Dr. McDougall
Thanks for the info, Cyndy. I will look into it this weekend. I do think that proper nutrition is under-emphasized in lifestyle and wellness (aka health) and, as someone who exercises regularly I realize and appreciate how important it is in both health and diseased states! Cheers. EBDCM (talk) 20:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Veterinary chiropractic
Hi Cyn. Please come to our budding article and bring your much appreciated rational skeptical POV so the article adequately covers all facets (haha) of the topic. Right now I'm engaged in non-productive exchanges with the usual crew whereas you have demonstrated a superb ability to get the orthodox med POV in there with some good give and take (I wish it was more like this on the main page). Anyways, good to see you back! Cheers, CorticoSpinal (talk) 17:36, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks CorticSpinal! You have been very busy. The Veterinary chiropractic is a pet interest of mine, too (groan). It is unfortunate that more studies haven't been done on animals and manipulation, since you don't have the huge expense and red tape of human studies. All I see are testimonials, which, of course, can't be trusted. As for the chiropractic article, it is such a commitment to keep up with all the comments, etc. I get sucked in and then wonder why my garden is in such bad shape. Too much time required to really edit productively. Thanks for your encouragement, though! I'll pop in when I can.

Veterinary Chiropractic - Safety
Hi Cyn, I have drafted a rewrite for that section without the controversial source. Comments? Talk:Veterinary_chiropractic DigitalC (talk) 05:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank-you for your hard work in helping get Vet Chiro NPOV and being a constructive, collaborative editor. Though we may share differing POV, I know that your concerns and skepticism is not dogmatic and rigid and thus we can find middle ground.  We need more "mainstream" editors like you.  Someone give this girl (woman) a barnstar! CorticoSpinal (talk) 06:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Why thank you, Cortico! I have enjoyed this process and arguing/collaborating with you and the other brilliant and passionate folks who care about science and health. Wikipedia is a strange and fascinating alternate reality with complex rules and relationships I don't fully understand. It is difficult not to get sucked into it to the detriment of real life. I justify it as a brain workout to fend off future dementia.-- —CynRN  ( Talk )  06:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The politics of Wikipedia completely suck and blow at the same time, but having to research claims has made me a better clinician, believe it or not. You tend to keep even more abreast of the literature and learn new and exciting things from other health professionals.  I agree re: dementia; some Sudoku could help and don't forget the neuro-protective effects of Omega 3 FAs.  The more I read about that, the more it does.  I came across this today; as a neuro-nurse it might would be cool to see this being used as a component in a rehab programme.  If you ever want to do a case study and try this out I'd love to get involved in research with you.  I'm already contributing to a few studies currently, hopefully they get published.  The lead author on one of them has written the vaccination papers we cite.  He's also a co-worker too, so I'm fortunate to get the inside scoop on some good details. I'm preparing my application for my PhD this fall; so do let me know if you want hook up on a project.  My interests are primarily in neuromotor control mechanisms, manual therapies and neurophysiological effects and physical rehabilitation/performance optimization.  Out of curiosity, CynRN, as a neuro-nurse do you do much clinical assessments and management?  CorticoSpinal (talk) 21:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it it's very exciting that you're involved in research and getting your degree! Nurses do lots of research, but I don't have the commitment to go down that road at this time in my life. I want to work as little as possible and concentrate on fun and creativity. If that makes me sound frivolous, too bad! I do try to follow the latest research on health and nutrition... try to keep up with neuro topics, esp. as relates to spinal surgery and neurodegenerative diseases. I'm in the trenches. As a floor nurse, I do plenty of clinical assessment. It's always interesting and challenging. Every day is a new set of problems to work out. I'd love to hear more about your studies.-- —CynRN  ( Talk )  21:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Glad I could give you a chuckle ;-) I thought about writing it as...  BOOOORRRIIINGGGG!!!  but I thought that might upset the cart :-D -- Dēmatt  (chat)  04:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Of Interest?
Cyndy, I was just browsing through and found this article on Omega 3 FAs. It's fully referenced as well. Cheers. CorticoSpinal (talk) 00:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Sorry I'm late in replying. I love info on diet/supplements. Omega 3s have some interesting effects.
 * Have you been following the new meta-reviews on anti-oxidants and mortality? I suspect that supplementing with anti-oxidants (not getting them in food) may interfere with the body's natural oxidant defence mechanisms. This meta-analysis shows increased mortality with some antioxidants.[].-- —CynRN  ( Talk )  16:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

On Holistic...
I asked another editor who is real good at helping and explaining how to on things if he would give you a hand so we both can learn how to move the paragraph up above the index. Happy editing! -- Crohnie Gal Talk  13:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, that's me.
 * The problem started here, when you tried to add a lead; leads always go at the top of the article (meaning no ==Section headings== at the tops of the paragraphs) and are meant to summarize the content below them. By using the section heading you made it part of the body text instead of the lead.
 * Also note - MOS:CAPS, which talks about article name capitalization (don't do it is the bullet point), and I think it also mentions section headings. For both pages and sections, capital letters are only used for the first letter of the first word, and proper names.  Cat Deeley is OK, Cats Dealing is not (should be Cats dealing and I'd love to see the article that section appears in, unless it's about a picture called Cats Dealing, in which case both should be capitalized).
 * You may also be interested in this essay I wrote for newcomers, as well as the following tools:


 * Citation templates
 * Google scholar autocitation, a google-style search engine and reference generator. Useful when the article doesn't have a pubmed number (old, social sciences or humanities) but the citation template isn't as neat and it does not fill in ISBN or pubmed numbers
 * ISBN searchable database, used in conjunction with Diberry to find, and generate citation templates
 * pubmed/isbn Diberry's template generator, incredibly useful, uses the [www.pubmed.org pubmed] number or isbn to automatically generate a citation template for you; the most useful if you have a pubmed or ISBN
 * Diberri is by far the most useful.
 * Also be aware of coatracking and content forking - both are used pejoratively but that's not how I'm using them here. Basically, try to avoid explaining a topic twice - if accupuncture has its own article, in the HVN article you don't need to explain accupuncture again because we already have an article for that.  I'm going on a quick read-through of the page and I've not checked very deeply in the history so I don't know if you actually wrote the sections or if they were already there.  If you're going to do a comprehensive re-write of the article, they're two policies you may want to keep in mind.  You may also find the main link interesting and the manual of style is always useful.
 * Crohnie's a good editor to know and work with, I encourage you to talk to her a lot (particularly given her excellent wikiquette); if you've other questions, please feel free to ask me also. Answering questions inflates my sense of self-importance.  And for the absolute peak of useful people on wikipedia, User:SandyGeorgia can't be beat.  WLU (talk) 14:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks WLU! I am here in Honduras on a tropical island and it's amazing that the internet works. I really appreciate your input on the article that I'm kind of using to practice. It had those sections already, but I see your point that they needn't be covered in the article since Wikipedia covers them nicely already. I will not be back for a week or so, but when I return, I'll use your advice to rework the article. Very kind of you to lend a hand!--67.142.130.42 (talk) 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)--67.142.130.42 (talk) 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikibreak template
Hi Cyn, I put the wiki template above and on your user page using your message so it is easily seen. Someone helped me and put the template up for me and so I thought I too would help you put it up. I hope this is ok. I did it because I don't always go to the user's page and didn't see you were away  :). I hope you don't mind, which I don't think you will!  If you need help to remove it when you return let me know and I will explain, though I think this is something you will understand how to remove.  I hope you are having a wonderful and healthy time. -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  11:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Crohnie, I love the template. It looks like the beach here! Thanks!--67.142.130.42 (talk) 14:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm baaack! But, alas, I can't get excited about getting involved in editing. The vacation took me out of the obsessive need to monitor, correct, clarify...and well, *Care* about what is going on the pages I watch. It's a healthy change, but I'm sure some unsourced edit will suck me back in at some point.-- —CynRN  ( Talk )  08:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope it's ok but corrected the spelling of my name that I just noticed. I hope this is ok with you, which I know it is [[image:SHysterical.gif|18px]].-- Crohnie Gal  Talk  10:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Welcome
I just wanted to make sure that you felt welcome at the Raw foodism page. Edit conflicts can be a pain to deal with, but that doesn't make the perspective of the second editor less valuable! WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Why thank you! I am new there, so don't want to step on toes. I have a question: I've noticed that there is also a Raw veganism page, with inevitable duplication in Raw foodism. It seems that if there is a Raw foodism wiki, it must justify itself by including the raw dairy stuff, as well as the veggie studies. -- —CynRN  ( Talk )  00:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, that's an excellent idea. I've formally proposed the merge (technically an unnecessary step, but it's nice to give the editors at the other article a chance to have their say) and started a discussion at Talk:Raw foodism.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I also agree with WhatamIdoing comments to you. As a newbie, you are very clear headed, have really good suggestion and do everything very calmly and politely.  As you know I like the way you handle yourself here.  Keep up the good work!  (This is comment #3 today on you talk page so you can find them, none of any serious importance though! [[image:SFriendly.gif|18px]] On another note, I will hopefully remember at the end of the day to put up my Wiki-break, we are going to go away this weekend to be with the family so keep me in your thoughts that the trip for me is totally uninventful!  Thanks Cyn, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  10:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Cyn RN Talk

Wrangham quote
Hi CynRN, I noticed that you added content from Wrangham's paper to the "Raw foodism" article. It's important to always quote material taken verbatim from a source (see Non-free content). I went along and added quotation marks to the sentences. Cheers! --Phenylalanine (talk) 10:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks! Late night editing is not always the best idea! -- —CynRN  ( Talk )  07:28, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Raw foodism issues
" " Cyn:- I'll include the eskimo/Nenet references in the raw meat eating section, plus some general info re temperature-limit etc, and foods eaten on such dietsLoki0115 (talk) 11:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC).

Opinion needed
Hi CynRN, I haven't been around the "Raw foodism" page in the past few days as I'm working on a proposal to clarify the Original research policy, which could have some implications for the "rawism" article. So far the responses have been negative. I posted a new proposal today, and was I wandering if you could take a look at it and provide your opinion. Thanks. --Phenylalanine (talk) 16:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Phenyl! I was wondering where you were! Anyway, I think you make some good points, but the bottom line for me is that it should be on a case by case basis. Every editor can look at the refs supplied and try to determine if the ref actually supports what is being said in the article. In the question of the raw milk issue, this article talks about people who want to drink raw milk for it's purported health benefits, just like the raw foodists in our article..."live" enzymes and so forth. Weston Price is mentioned. The article goes over the pros and the cons. I think this information could find a place in the raw foodism article, but an article purely on bacteria in dairy and not mentioning 'raw milk enthusiasts' might not.-- —CynRN  ( Talk )  22:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a reasonable approach. Thanks. --Phenylalanine (talk) 02:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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