User talk:Cyndiann

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, some of your edits have not conformed to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy, and have been reverted. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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Vandalism of Clothes free organizations
Your editing of Clothes free organizations to exlude ClothesFree International is not justified for any reason. Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Dandelion1 03:34, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I noticed nobody is interested in finding out who deleted my own listing from this.

And your use of "clothes free" anything is totally bogus, totally unjustified and only serves one commercial website that has been caught being dishonest about the number of members and the amount of money it brings in.

If it is really true that you can be blocked for vandalsim why are you still here?

cyndiann
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Social nudity vs naturism article names
Hello there,

I am the one who moved naturism and nudism to Clothes free movement and we have been discussing another title change to Social nudity. The reason for the proposal is to adhere to Wikipedia's policy of writing articles that are in a neutral point of view. If you are interested in making arguments on this topic, please discuss them on the article's talk page at: Talk:Naturism and do note that there is a debate already underway. Please note that the article is now written in a NPOV tone (not biased using naturism or nudism unless the context of the discussion warrants). Thank you. Dandelion1 02:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Dear Cyndiann, Please look over the arguments and you'll see, I hope, that nudists cannot be under the label of naturists or vice versa. I think that social nudity is the title to which no one can reasonably object. So I voted that way. I'm new here so I don't exactly know how to find all the discussion pages. I'm a veteran nude activist. Korky Day 09:22, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

No I don't see that they can't have such a label. I certainly don't see how it could be replaced with anything as rediculous as "clothes free". There is basicly no difference between a nudist and a naturist and any argument that says there is is only caught up in semantics and not seeing the big picture. Social nudity doesn't work because many nudists aren't into being social and shouldn't have to be. Corky said you own a website called bodyfreedom.org which I found to be hosted by clothesfree. Coincidence or not? cyndiann
 * See reponse below. User:Dandelion (talk|contribs) 00:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

article names
Those organizations call themselves naturist or nudist organizations, not clothes free organizations. Why do you want to relabel them in such a way? I don't see it as being neutral at all, especially considering your own website is hosted by Clothesfree.com according to the owner of Clothesfree. I would bet that should those organizations be told what you labeled them that they would want to have their original terms used (naturist or nudist). I will be contacting those organizations and letting them know what you are doing. I'm sure they will want to contact you Dandelion. Cyndiann
 * Not all the organizations are naturist or nudist organizations, as an example, Body Freedom Collaborative and The Freedom To Be Yourself and The X-Plicit Players. Please feel free to have organizations comment on this page. The goal is to have all non-sexualized nudity articles in one area using a NPOV term. BFC not only works with ClothesFree.com, but also the Naturist Society and even some local naturist and nudist groups. The collaborative efforts are well documented. BFC has many hard working nudists and naturists working with us, we encourage cross-group collaborative efforts but don't ask people to become nudists or naturists. People can choose that freely for themselves. Please take your paranoid theories and speculations somewhere other than Wikipedia. BTW, Please learn how to sign your name properly. User:Dandelion (talk|contribs) 00:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Naming dispute
I agree with your movement of the pages away from the Clothes free corporation. KimvdLinde 05:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)