User talk:Cyphoidbomb/Archive 20

A weird spam account
Just blocked one for edits like this where they spam their blogspot shrines for actors and actresses across multiple articles. Don't know who it is, but you or might, so alerting you. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The spammer is "Decent Nil"/SabKeGaane which creates spam mimic sites for celebs. Don't know hot to blacklist this, see history of many celebs realXXX.blogspot.in and so on, but now progressed to domain names also like shirleysetiamusic.com and so on.&mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  14:55, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Looking through my labeled reverts I don't know that I've encountered this yet, but I appreciate the heads-up! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:18, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Had to block two ips for continuing the spamming at Shirley Setia. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:04, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It's this guy. They're CU ✅ to from the archives. They don't seem too sophisticated when it comes to naming their accounts, so may be easier to spot now that the master has been identified.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  20:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Why clean up? Naagin(TV series)
Naagin season 2 should have the full plot of the season. Means if it is more than 500 word also, I have to write it. Because the plot of any tv series should be written as per the story. I have written the full plot. But, u are making a clean up, The plot should define about the story of the series. Then why are you spoiling AL the plot. Reply me soon. Pranay Star (talk) 08:07, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You should look at other television shows as examples of what to do. Supernatural (U.S. TV series) or Charmed, for instance. -- ‖ Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract  ‖ 08:30, 19 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I feel like I've already explained this to you above and on your talk page. Per WP:TVPLOT, the entire plot section should be limited to 500 words and should provide a general summary of the overall shape of the series, not get bogged down in episode-by-episode details. The ideal solution would be to create a list of episodes and provide 150-200 word summaries for each episode. However barring that, I don't think it's unreasonable to have season-by-season summaries, provided they're kept concise. So what's an appropriate length? I think the 900 word summary for S2 is far too long. Why don't you aim to trim it down to 500? Or, if you want another opinion, ask someone at WikiProject TV how to deal with this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:48, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * And despite the explanations and giant notice in the Plot section, you still find ways to expand, ballooning the plot section yet another 30 words to 970. The section needs to be shorter, not longer. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:48, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Naagin 3 cast
I did not understand what you are talking about, Cyphoidbomb. I have written the cast of season 3 of naagin. I have written the other cast of season 3 also. Then what you are talking. You are asking to write cast other than Mouni Roy. Not at all understanding question. Pranay Star (talk) 14:25, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Naagin 3 cast refer
What reference are asking. I think you are asking to add a reference page from a news that they are the cast if season 3 of naagin. I do not have but you can add them. Thank you Cyphoidbomb. Its me Pranay Star. Pranay Star (talk) 14:54, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm very concerned that your English skills may not be strong enough to edit here constructively. If you add content to any article, you need to prove the content you added is correct, by adding a reference. No reference = the content gets removed. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:57, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the Box office Value of bahubali 2 the conclusion
Thanks for reviewing my edit in the box office and you are correct because I didn't provide a source to confirm that fact. Also I would like to request you to refer the article in Wikipedia "Highest grossing Indian Films". There you will see another box office value for Bahubali 2 but also with a citation consisting a reliable source. So please verify the issue regarding this. Because if you are smart and fluent in wikipedia and its structure and policies,yoi must understand how a the box office of afilm like bahubali 2 is not being updated for a long time. Thanks for reminding about the policies of Wikipedia. I Hope you will review the matter I have disussed above.

Yasiru V. Yasiru V. (talk) 04:42, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, and thank you for being open-minded. It would seem to me that if there's a discrepancy between articles at Wikipedia, and if we're assuming that data existing at X article is more reliable than at Y article (a tricky assumption, because of how irresponsible Indian journals can be, and since all financial figures are based on proprietary estimates) then extracting the reference from article X would probably be the way to go. In this case, then the following would appear directly after the 1725 crore claim.
 * Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:32, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:32, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Help
Hi, it would be great if you kindly see this. Regards. --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Awesome. SMirC-happy.svg --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:46, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks &  - Suvray (talk) 06:41, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

27/6/17
Dear, I don't think that my this edit is meaningless because there are lots of television actresses but this type of compliment is given to only talented and hardworking tv actresses like a popular film maker Karan Johar complimented Dhami by saying she should be on Bollywood. Zafar24  Talk  03:57, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I get that you don't think it's meaningless, but you also need a reality check, since you're editing that article basically on your own, and on multiple occasions you've added content that is inappropriate for inclusion. What academic question is being answered with the inclusion of a statement that a filmmaker thinks she should be in Bollywood. What does that statement even mean? What is a reader supposed to glean from that statement? "Oh, I guess if a popular film maker thinks she should be in Bollywood, that means she's really important!" There's no context. It's just a random thought that doesn't impart any meaningful knowledge. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Okay dear, I understood. Thanks for explaining. Zafar24  Talk  01:32, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

A meesage for you
Hi Cyphoidbomb, I'm Luigi1090. I absolutely need your help. Users Amaury and MAYBE IJBall, are making personal attacks against me because of my impeccable job on the page List of The Loud House episodes. My latest edit on it is this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_The_Loud_House_episodes&oldid=787690057, and they give a lot of arias acting as if they were the absolute bosses of that article. Luigi1090 (talk) 12:04, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Cyphoid, I think you know both myself and well enough to know that we wouldn't make personal attacks. In fact, without evidence, Luigi's claim could be a personal attack in the same manner that calling a good faith editor a vandal is a personal attack. If you have a look at both my talk page and the article's talk page, you'll see the discussions that have taken place for this. The article was previously very messy, going against a lot of standard MOS guidelines, including not being listed in air date order. A lot of that messy formatting was introduced again yesterday. I also created an SPI a while ago based on some suspicions IJBall and I had here, and another admin mentioned there was sockpuppetry on this user's part on the Italian Wikipedia as well as other non-English Wikipedias. You can also see that this user doesn't know and understand English very well as both myself and IJBall noted under "Post-work discussion" on my talk page and has often misunderstood things we've said. Amaury ( talk &#124; contribs ) 13:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, without examples of personal attacks, it's difficult for me to look into this. I also don't quite understand how the page revision you linked above is indicative of any specific problem. I understand that things can get frustrating, and maybe you've worked hard on that article and are a bit frustrated to see it change, but this sounds like a typical situation where editors need to talk out their problems. My impressions of Amaury and IJBall are that both of them are generally friendly and communicative, so my belief is that with some patient discussion, you three can come to a reasonable solution. However, if you have specific examples of personal attacks, Please post them and I'll look at them. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:32, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for the answer. Here's an example of a very personal attack against me from him (Amaury): & . Finally here is my outburst about it titles. Luigi1090 (talk) 01:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * , I don't see any personal attack from Amaury here. They reverted your edit with the explanation "Not per sources; generally unnecessary." This doesn't mention you at all, it's merely objecting to your edit. A personal attack is when someone says something about you personally, ex: "You are a vandal", "You are a jerk", "You are stupid". Nobody said anything about you in the diff you provided. Editors are allowed to disagree with each other. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Just for reference, Ad Orientem has dropped them a note on their talk page regarding their editing. Like I mentioned on my talk page—I realize that area is kind of a mess to read through—their language barrier seems to be causing problems with communications. Due to their earlier disruptive edits following a clean-up, we've given them advice that they should post on the talk page to see if their edits are improvements rather than just making the edits, but they refuse to heed the advice given and are instead essentially trying to stonewall their changes. They may be trying to communicate rather than doing it silently, but that really makes no difference. They also seem to think that other editors who disagree with them are personally attacking them because they disagree with them. When there's more than one editor who views their edits as problematic, there's a problem. Amaury ( talk &#124; contribs ) 00:01, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Heavy addition of unsourced content
Sir
 * I want you to PLEASE look at the page "List of highest grossing Indian movies in overseas markets" as there has been heavy addition of unsourced and fake content.Even one of the edit says that Dangal earned $4214 million ($4.2 billion), which is much more than Avatar's worldwide gross!!!

Thanks
 * SalmanKhan243 (talk) 15:52, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Dangal crosses 2000 correspondence worldwide, update it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/06/26/indias-dangal-takes-down-%E2%82%B92000-crore-305m-a-major-milestone-in-world-cinema/#4bd90c286723 Saisiddharth4u (talk) 16:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No. I'm more motivated when people say "please" and "thank you". Anyway, you already opened an edit request, so someone else who cares can update it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)


 * It is showing that the page has been protected, that is the reason I told you to update it. If I have access there is no need for me to tell anyone. I won't say please or thank you. Saisiddharth4u (talk) 17:57, 27 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree with Cyphoidbomb. A request that demanding would assure I'd do anything but what you ask.  Giving him an order to update makes it even less likely you'll get the update you want.  How rude.  -- -- Dr. Margi   ✉  18:39, 27 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Then we have an understanding! You will not say please or thank you, and I will not help you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:41, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Tamannaah
unattributed copy paste, you've already interacted and warned the editor, your area of expertise, so bringing to you. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  14:03, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Axomiya deka
Hello Cyphoidbomb, I was looking at Axomiya deka's contribution and found he recreated 's work Rajdweep twice under different title Rajdweep (writer) and Rajdweep (playwright and lyricist). Jaminianurag created this article multiple times and after he gave up user was registered and created Rajdweep then just after it got deleted Axomiya deka logged in and recreated it under different title Rajdweep (writer) and then Rajdweep (playwright and lyricist). They all belongs to the same location as per their userpage and editing in the same area. I can't see the history of deleted versions, so it's impossible to tell if it's identical and any behaviour similarities? Thank you – GSS (talk |c|em ) 19:54, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

List of highest grossing Indian films
Hello, shouldn't the list of films by highest inflation adjusted gross on the page, List of highest-grossing Indian films be deleted as the source is not reliable? It can be added again if it is proved that the source and its suggestion is genuine, no? SoniaKovind (talk) 15:31, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

User:86.2.45.233
After warning the IP about an incident on a sports league table, the IP removed your comment on his own talk page about WP:CRYSTAL. I had to revert his removal and warn him about it. I'm not sure if I should take the case to WP:ANI. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 16:49, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Raajakumara
According to ibtimes Raajakumara collected ₹70 crore, and as per Asianet newsable journalism says ₹75 crore. I didn't know that which collection is reliable here, because both are reputed journalism. Thank u — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tevar shaa (talk • contribs) 05:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon 3
Dear Cyphoidbomb, I would like to ask you about as tv series article Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon. The show's 3rd season is telecasted from today at 8 pm Indian time. As the show is at season 3 now, should I write the season 3 plot and cast in the first season of it or create a new article. If I should create a new article, how many days it takes to publish it by Wikipedia.

Ipkknd's 2nd season is of different cast and it has been written as a new article. Then shiuld this 3rd season to be also written as a new article or merge it up with the original version. Except for Barun Sobti, all the cast is different and the story is also different. It means we should create a new article. Ler me know reply soon. Pranay Star (talk) 12:55, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think a new article is necessary. The overview of the various seasons can be included at the main article until such time as a unique article is warranted. Typically we create new articles after we build episode lists. We're a long way from that. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:54, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Regrets...
Sorry for the repeated pings.Oops! Winged Blades Godric 17:35, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * No probs. You know, I don't think it would be a bad idea for you to discuss the Gerua matter with that other user if you could spare some time. But it's always easy for me to spend other people's time. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:07, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

SPI
I put up one more sock. Might change your mind I think. Home Lander (talk) 20:23, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Just noticed the Cupcake account at the Negima article, so I've reversed my CU opinion. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:26, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Figured you would. ;) Home Lander (talk) 20:27, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Editor spamming List of South African slang words is back
Hi Cyphoidbomb. Editor you blocked for "unsourced and interpretive content" is back and doing the same as before. Editor has been adding countless segments of text to List of South African slang words, completely interpretive/ WP:OR. Regards, Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 21:57, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Blocked 1 week. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:38, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will keep an eye on the page, as I suspect that he has a second account. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 13:40, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Help
Hello, Kalyana Parisu (TV series) and Priyamanaval (TV series) Series was deleted, Now I want to write this article again. Will there be any problem? i have good reference for this article? --Thilakshan (talk) 15:34, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi there, Kalyana Parisu (TV series) was deleted because it contained numerous copyright violations. You could recreate that, provided it contains no copied text. Wikipedia takes this seriously. All prose must be written from scratch in your own words. And as with every article, you need to establish that the series is notable. Priyamanaval (TV series) is more of a problem because the article has been protected by an administrator. What you could do is create it in draft space Draft:Priyamanaval (TV series), and once it's up to speed, you could ask an administrator to move it for you. Again, you'd have to demonstrate that the show is notable. Also, per WP:PAID, if you are a paid editor, you have to disclose who your client is, who is paying you, as well as any other relevant relationship. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:18, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Raajakumara
Hello, I'm Tevar shaa. I have provided the reliable sources to Raajakumara film, thanks for the informing. —Preceding undated comment added 16:30, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Old pal Robberey1705
Cyphoid, would you take a look at the recent edits for our old pal User:Robberey1705, who persists in describing small, ordinary edits such as this one at Ray Donovan as vandalism; here's another from Shooter. The generally aggressive tone of his edit summaries are of concern as well, leaving aside the nerve he has to criticize others' English and capitalization given his own abysmal use of both.

I've warned him several times, but he goes on doing it; he does it again with a second edit by the same editor on the Ray Donovan page, also calling the editor, who has fewer than 10 edits, an idiot. He's out of control and sees no reason to change his behavior. I warned him about the vandalism; he's also got a civility warning from another editor for referring to the editor as an idiot. I can't help but think it's time for a block. Thanks, buddy! -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  01:44, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Information about Prem Khan
Sir I create Prem Khan's Wikipedia from another language version from Wikipedia please have a look https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30335976#sitelinks-wikipedia Singlebarrelking (talk) 06:48, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:12 Monkeys
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:12 Monkeys. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:43, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Nelatti
Hi Cyphoidbomb. I would not want to burden you with this again, so I had a look at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, but looks very 'all over the place' (am I looking in the wrong place?), compared to this neat format I am accustomed to seeing. Anyway, Nelatti has just returned from the block and is back at his favourite passtime. He has also uploaded a new photo in — and claiming that it is his own work —, despite numerous previous photos having been deleted. Thanks for your time. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 21:51, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes, WP:ANI would be the correct place to report Nelatti, with the caveat that you have to notify him of your report per the instructions at the top of the page. That said, I'll take a look and act accordingly. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:02, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

About Bigg Boss Telugu
I need some suggestions from you. Some of the problems occurred by Anonymous user 117.195.165.199 I fixed them but I want to ask you that what should I do to prevent these type of edits? Joshq1234 (talk) 08:13, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * If it's just a one-time event, we would treat it as vandalism, warn the user, and move on. If the user is hopping IPs, then we might consider another approach, like short-term page protection. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:52, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank You Joshq1234 (talk) 16:56, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

A user
Can you check out this user: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brentford1889 the edits are just, some are correct while others are wrong. im sure this is him aswell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ardnashee2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazyseiko (talk • contribs) 11:44, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * - I agree and have asked a CheckUser to look into it. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:01, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Vikram Vedha (tamil film) plot summary
Hi Cyphoidbomb, I wrote a plot summary for the Tamil film Vikram Vedha (as I've done for many other films before), but it keeps getting truncated down to 4-5 lines by nameless (IP address only) folks. It looks like they want to "mask out" the plot, presumably to get more people to see the film - not in the Wikipedia tradition. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.

cheers Frisco danconia (talk) 14:44, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've added the article to my watchlist. FYI, film plot summaries should be between 400-700 words. The one at Vikram Vedha is a bit beefy at 940 words. The relevant guideline is WP:FILMPLOT. It's not entirely arbitrary, as overly-detailed plot summaries could be considered derivative works, which presents copyright concerns. As for the IPs, if the problem persists and I don't happen to see it on my own, please let me know and I'll protect the page or something of that nature. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:50, 25 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Cyphoidbomb, thanks for your timely action! About the 940 words, I revised my write up as best I could but this neo-noir film has a complex plot with many intersecting elements; I will try to revise again, I also hope the Wiki process will invite additional edits which will further tighten the writeup. Thanks again! Frisco danconia (talk) 23:18, 25 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Cyphoidbomb, they are back and the film plot is back to exactly one line. My last update (14:35 7/25/2017) was wiped out and there are a number of nonsense one-liners since. Offending IPs are 1.126.x.x and 210.187.x.x - warned several times - and a couple others. Thanks... FDA Frisco danconia (talk) 03:38, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * - Restored here, and IP warned although they seem to be hopping. If it continues, the next step will be page protection. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:46, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * - Ok now the whole plot is gone! They are hopping IPs or working together somehow! FDA Frisco danconia (talk) 02:57, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * - The plot section is gone again (7/28, removed by a user who has been warned before). I am puzzled why someone would persist in doing this? This now appears to be vandalism. FDA Frisco danconia (talk) 03:13, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * This is somewhat common for recently-released films, although the frequency of removal seems odd. Usually we only have one or two per new film. Depends on the film, I guess. This seems more like someone involved with the film trying to censor spoilers. Guessing aside, the most recent user has been warned and content has been restored. If they persist, I'll elevate accordingly. Next steps might be blocking the user or upping the article protection one notch. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:54, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Your recent reverts at N. T. Rama Rao Jr.‎
Just FYI – this seems to be persistent disruptive editing. I have opened a case at SPI here. Thank you for reverting, I hadn't got around to it yet. :) Have a nice day! –FlyingAce✈hello 16:02, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the note. If you think it's ducky, I don't mind indeffing both. That may interfere with the CU request, though. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:05, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, I won't be able to handle this at present... If it's still a dangling issue I can look at it in several hours. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:24, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Need some Help
Hi! I need some help with the page Vijay Sethupathi. A user keeps adding the 'Devar' to the Father's name, but provides no references. Also his place of birth place has been edited but references suggest that he was born else where. If I revert the edits, it's just going to end up in an edit-war. Sorry for the trouble. Thanks! Adwaith s (talk) 07:12, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for being conscientious about our edit-warring policy. The issue seems to have quieted down, so I don't know that there's anything to be done administratively. But if it flares up again, please let me know. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:28, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure will. Thanks! Adwaith s (talk) 18:08, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

My edits
Hi Cyphoidbomb, I would like to use this space to apologize to you and whomever I've managed to p**s-off about my edits on The List of South African Slang Words, etc. I've had some time to reflect on this and I'm sorry if they seemed disruptive to you, I never intended for that to happen. As you can see, i'm not very good at this "editing thing", as most of my edits are rash and overdone. I don't know how to get the reliable resources you want, because you don't accept Google or Wikipedia as a reliable resource, which is kinda an oxymoron. I'm just trying to do my part here as a contributor with the best of intentions. Although the article's name does specify slang "words" and not "phrases", I would like to point out that I've seen phrases included in there that i did not contribute to, and that the article is about "slang", which basically means that not all legitimate slang-terms have been officiated in a dictionary or thesaurus because new ones appear on a yearly basis (i.e. no real reliable source besides the people who use them). So I would like to ask you, if you feel that my edits are irrational or disruptive, then let us please work together constructively to improve on them, rephrase and/or restructuring them without necessarily removing them completely. Teach me how to use the correct sources, or when necessary help me out there. User:Nelatti (talk)
 * I appreciate your note. That probably wasn't easy to do. If I can help to better explain community policy to you, I'd be happy to do so. Wikipedia is touchy about "original research". Original research takes a few different forms, but some examples might be, "I know Celine Dion personally, and she told me that she was born on ___ date and that her first paid gig was at the ___ theatre." Or "I'm a brain surgeon and I assure you that the cutting edge treatment for depression is removal of the ___." Or in this case, "I'm South African and I hang with a lot of people who throw around a lot of slang." We need content to be verifiable, which means that things we personally experience or witness or understand to be true is not sufficient for inclusion unless it can be supported with sources. Other forms of original research would be the inclusion of our opinions or analyses into articles, like here. In this example, you explain that many people still import a specific vehicle (which is your personal understanding), you've asserted that X vehicle is still very popular, there's some weasel-wording to the effect of "many agreed", etc. So while you may absolutely be correct about a lot of this, the bottom line is that we need all submitted content to be attributed to reliable sources, so that people can verify them. Examples of reliable sources are major newspapers, magazines, books, and anything where there is a presumption of responsible editorial oversight. Same thing with the slang. You might be absolutely correct about the etymology of tawwe, but without references, the content can't be verified. And if you happen to be an Afrikaans slang prodigy, maybe you should be writing a book! Another caveat, is that slang comes and goes so quickly. We need to be sure we're only including time-tested, noteworthy additions. Noteworthiness is bolstered by references. Kids sit around fabricating slang terms for Urban Dictionary (which is an entertainment site, not an academic resource). We have to be better than Urban Dictionary, so our threshold for inclusion needs to be higher. (Again, references are key to this.) I think the above is quite a bit to parse, so I'll be quiet for the time being. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:14, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank You for responding, I'll take all that into consideration, but I still don't know how to add the references to the edits. On the "Original Research", that's where the oxymoron comes in; If Celine Dion told you she was born here __, and did this __ for a living, and you've got video evidence to back it up, then it can't really be considered fabrication of own research, because there's evidence directly from the true source of the topic (going back to my edits about the Kim Possible series), that's my point of view anyways. I don't use Urban Dictionary, cuz they've got no quality content. I also make it a point not to remove other users' edits that I personally don't agree with, I'll try to rephrase it if it's been done improperly, but that's where I draw the line. User:Nelatti (talk)
 * The simplest way (assuming the reference is online) is to use HTML ref markup with a link in between. Like:
 * A more robust way, is to use the Citation tool that's built into the edit window. See this image. There are also templates like Cite AV media, which allow you to manually cite stuff like YouTube videos.
 * To address your Celine Dion question, if we have a (non-copyright violation) video of her on YouTube or somewhere talking about where she was born, that's fine, we would use the Cite AV media template, probably. What I was saying, is that if some random yob like me adds or changes content proclaiming "I know Celine and she told me ___", that's not sufficient for our purposes because it can't be verified. a random reader can't go to the library and check out my brain. Also, people can lie, people can be mistaken, people can be lied to, etc. In the case of the brain surgeon, who knows if they're legitimately a brain surgeon? They could be an impostor, a quack, whatever. This is also why we don't typically accept assertions from unverified Twitter accounts. Too easy to pull off hoaxes. To give you another example, there are tons of kids TV articles where children have added all sorts of garbage. They mistakenly interpret puns based on their limited knowledge of popular culture, they draw conclusions like "Rudy stands next to Susie in the cafeteria, suggesting he probably has a crush on her" when there are tons of other explanations like, a storyboard artist randomly put Rudy next to Susie. I could give you thousands of examples if I had enough time. But in the interim, if you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:56, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll try to use that more often. It was nice to actually have a civil conversation for once. Nelatti — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15:28, August 10, 2017‎ (talk • contribs)
 * Likewise, and I assure you, it's nothing personal. Oh, one last thing, when you sign posts, please use four tildes. This will append your name and timestamp like this --> Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:06, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Likewise, and I assure you, it's nothing personal. Oh, one last thing, when you sign posts, please use four tildes. This will append your name and timestamp like this --> Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:06, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Re-Blind reverts
Thank you very much. I got it. It was a quick revert that is why I was a little careless. I have reported him for sockpuppetry. Can you have a look on Waheed Murad and revert the sock's edit? As several sources justify the claim.Umair Aj (talk) 15:11, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Best to wait for any sort of sockpuppetry investigation to complete. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:14, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok but by then this user should not be allowed to damage the articles. What do you say? Should I revert it or add a source more clearly?Umair Aj (talk) 15:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You should discuss any content dispute with the other editor. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:40, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Possible sock
Hi, think is a sock of blocked sockpuppet  as they have just reprodded four of the articles prodded by 68.151.25.115, Anne-Marie Helder, Iain Jennings, Bryan Josh and Catch the Spirit - The Complete Anthology, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 18:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Might you please be able to look at this? was indeffed after a CU check. I could indef the sock (who also geolocates to Edmonton, Canada, thus, it looks ducky) but I thought maybe you could do it in a more official CU capacity. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:47, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Addendum. I misspoke about "indeffing" an IP editor. Just meant block them long-term. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:47, 15 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Could I please trouble you to take a look at this in a CU capacity? I think Bbb23 might not be active at present. Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:19, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup, it's confirmed block evasion (though I can't name the master for typical privacy reasons).-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 15:58, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Understood. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:32, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Mistake?
I didn't get this edit, there are 3 in 7th position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.51.22.135 (talk) 20:22, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I misspoke. 7th. Point is that the last number shouldn't have been 8 if there were three in the 7th position. The three take up the 7th, 8th, and 9th positions. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * But those 3 are tied, right ? So how can they take up all 3 spaces instead of one to show that the 7th is held by 3 movies, followed by 8th then 9th then 10th ? 2.51.22.135 (talk) 20:30, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * This was the result of a discussion on the talk page. The scope of those tables are to indicate the top 10 films. If there are three that are tied for 50 crore, that's still 3 films, so without being preferential, they could each be either 7th, 8th, or 9th. How do we figure out which is which? We don't. We lump all three into the 7th spot, then move on to the film that takes the #10 spot. If we do it any other way, Wikipedia winds up in the position of having to decide which of the three grossers should be ranked higher than the others. That's not our job. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:38, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Clarifying Md.
You asked for clarification of the name Md. Kalam in this edit to Boss 2: Back to Rule. In the context of most of South Asia, and perhaps all countries with large populations of Muslims, Md. is understood as an abbreviation of Muhammad, a common prefix for names. It is not expanded because a person usually sticks to one particular form, much as a William might be best known as Will, Bill, Billy, Wm., etc. If you feel some explanation is needed in the article, you're welcome to add it, but there must be thousands of articles that use it the same way, so adding a note to every occurrence may not be practical. For now I've removed the clarify tag. --Worldbruce (talk) 07:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Appreciated . Indeed, ignorance got the better of me here. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:02, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Naagin(TV series)
I apologize for my mistake, Cyphoidbomb! I chopped the show name 2 to look for an alternative of the title which could be chosen by the director before its premiere. I mean its original title is just "Naagin". I don't know how the subtitle "Mohabbat aur Inteqaam ki dastaan" was added as it is mentioned no where. Another thing is that Kumkum Bhagya and Naagin 1 & 2 have a tough TRP race every week since Naagin's premiere. So, I have mentioned it to signify Naagin's viewership. Next thing is Colors TV made it as two seasons which were split and aired with a four months gap. So, Naagin 1 & 2 episodes are separated into two playlists(in Youtube and Voot) which contain 62 & 75 (totally 137) episodes respectively. I think you understand the the reason for my edit in such things. Pranay Star (talk) 15:43, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

"Panned"
Hi there, re: this edit, "panned" is not appropriate encyclopedic tone. We write from a neutral point of view and don't use hyperbole or superlative language. There are other issues too that I will have to fix, including the incorrect linking to Cinema of India (the primary topic should be India) as well as the Indic script that somehow you changed to question marks. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:03, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi there ! I corrected the mistakes you mentionned, except the "Indic script" thing. I'm honestly not sure what you are referring to. --Hyliad (d), 21:07, August 27 2017 21:07 (CEST)
 * If you look at this edit, you'll see what I had to fix. The question marks were introduced in your edit. If you have any odd browser extensions, you might look into that. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:22, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, my computer had to restart while I was modifying the article so I saved the whole thing in a file, but it probably was unable to save Indian alphabet. Thanks for pointing that out. --Hyliad (d), 21:30, August 27 2017 21:07 (CEST)

Naagin (TV series)
Dear Cyphoidbomb, I would like to inform you that separating the seasons into two articles is best. Naagin 1 & 2 are merged but Naagin 3's story is different and the title card is also distinct. So, I think Naagin season 3 article to be distinct and not to be merged with the original article. I also appreciate you for making reliable edits in Naagin article. Pranay Star (talk) 07:13, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't get why they should be distinct. Most television series with different seasons are included under the umbrella of the main series article. Only when we have enough content to warrant individual articles do we create individual articles. Title card changes don't seem relevant to me. I will open a discussion at WikiProject Television though, to get community input. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb, I mean Naagin 1, 2 & 3 have different directors and creative team. So, I would like to mention the respective directors names in the respective article. Naagin 2 is the continuation of season 1 so they are merged into one article. But Naagin season 3 is distinct from the season 1 & 2. So it has to be a new article. I have already created the article Naagin (Colors). It is the article Naagin 3. As you are the administrator, I request you to redirect the link 'Naagin 3' to 'Naagin (Colors)' article instead of 'Naagin (TV series). Thank you for replying. Pranay Star (talk) 15:23, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I think Naagin 3 should be merged into the main article and I have flagged it accordingly. We don't create individual season articles unless there is a reason to do so, and that reason has not been fulfilled. I have also opened the discussion at WT:TV. You are invited to participate at both discussions. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:26, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I started a discussion in Naagin (Colors) article. So discuss there. Pranay Star (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The place to discuss is where the "Discuss" button in the merge template leads, i.e. Talk:Naagin (TV series), where I'd already started a discussion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:47, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

TV articles
Why is it that no editors from Pakistan, India, The Phillipines or Indonesia seem to be able to create articles without making massive numbers of mistakes? Every day it's a battle clearing out and then I find myself dragged into fixing everything else in the articles. *sigh* -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 16:29, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Articles about subjects in developing nations can be frustrating to manage. I think part of the issue is that commonfolk from these regions have access to the internet via mobile phones, when many of them may not have access to decent education. (I know of some problem regions in America that have this problem as well...) It's hard to get uneducated people to care about things like plagiarism if they've never been taught that it's wrong. Same with all those other issues we deal with. Sourcing, neutral language, complete sentences, basic typography... Anyway, I feel ya. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:17, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

User behaviour
Administrator, could you take any action against this IP 45.249.238.180. Attacking this page by adding obscene words (in Malayalam typed in English), offensive language, and mass content removal. 112.133.248.8 (talk) 12:21, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. We typically warn users who are being disruptive before taking administrative action against them. In this case, while they were being deliberately disruptive over seven edits, if they continue, then we can look into things further. Thanks and regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:11, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Could you patrol the page Lal Jose (director) for a week. There is an IP (actually a dynamic IP) adding claims such as "panned by critics and audiences alike" citing a single review from filmibeat.com. Within an hour after reverting, he came back to repeat the same, which I defended. He is likely to return again. Administrators like you can do a great deal making these IPs understand what Wikipedia is for and not for. IPs will not value the word from another random IP like me. --103.15.255.131 (talk) 08:02, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It's already on my list, but I have close to 13,000 items on my watchlist. If I miss something, feel free to drop a line. It doesn't look like it's a huge problem thus far and I also see that page protection was applied. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:06, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Talkback
Winged Blades of Godric On leave 06:32, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Naagin (Colors)
@Cyphoidbomb, I don't want you to merge the articles Naagin (TV series) and Naagin (Colors). I also want to to change the article name Naagin (Colors) to Naagin 3 or Naagin Season 3. But Naagin 3 link redirects to Naagin (TV series) page. So, as an administrator you can remove the redirect.

The story of Naagin 3 isn't the reign of the lead's child like Naagin 2. It is entirely different. Like Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon? and its third season are separated, Naagin should also be distinct from its third season. The crew and cast except Mouni Roy are different. I don't bother about title cards being different.

Kindly requesting you not to merge the articles. Pranay Star (talk) 17:35, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * As I explained a few sections above the last time you raised this issue, the place to have this discussion is at Talk:Naagin (TV series). I probably wouldn't bring up Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon 3 as an example, since that's another problematic article that should be merged. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:43, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Nirmala Sitharaman
Hi, can you keep an eye on the article? keeps pushing their POV by adding categories that are irrelevant to the article. I've made myself clear in the article's talk page, thanks. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 19:44, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh
The press and editing frequency on the article has died down and it's no longer plastered all over the press. Is it time to remove the current event tag? Octoberwoodland (talk) 21:03, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you're probs correct. I removed the template. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:51, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have my user preferences set to always require an edit summary from now on.  Thanks for showing me how to do that. Octoberwoodland (talk) 02:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for using the edit summaries! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:48, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

I have responded to your wish to ban me
I have responded to your wish to ban me on the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents Qewr4231 (talk) 02:20, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

There is also a new discussion that concerns you on that page. Qewr4231 (talk) 02:27, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's be very clear here that I'm not proposing a site-wide ban from editing, only a ban from editing or discussing matters relating to Kip McKean and the various related churches. This is a powderkeg for you. Avoid it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:52, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to Admin confidence survey
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Your draft article, Draft:Ideal Institute of Technology


Hello, Cyphoidbomb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ideal Institute of Technology".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 10:32, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Cast
Thanks for the friendly explanation. Point noted. :)--Princessruby (talk) 17:52, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Comment from Cheshta Abrol
Hi there! Thank you for the friendly explanation. I'm new here, therefore don't know many of the wikipedia's norms. Today nowards I'll keep the explained points in my mind; to not to be too detailed about any episode. But I do usually use capitals for proper nouns. Thanks :) :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheshta Abrol (talk • contribs) 02:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

naagin
I don't know how to add source link but I know naagin series will  not yet ready for telecast on coming three months ( previous series actor said in an interview. Sri Harsha Malempati (talk) 05:40, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The easiest way to add a reference is to paste a URL between two ref tags like: . References used must be mainstream sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy. No blogs, please. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:08, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

September 2017
You are misinterpreting my edits and contributions since 'Critical Reception' is a collection of views of various professional critics that are published by means of any national newspapers,websites or other sources on a film's subject matter.I am NOT enforcing my views. I'm new here .I found you somewhat responsible from other causal editors. Keep the good work going.Thank you. Aruvn (talk) 15:04, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You should probably re-read my comments on your talk page. In this edit, you described the critical response as mixed. Are you a critical response aggregator like Rotten Tomatoes? Who are you to decide what the overall critical response to a film was? That's my point. We, as editors, don't get to draw conclusions about things. It's not our place, because we are prone to bias. If I hate a certain film, I'm more likely to look for reviews that support my point of view. This is called confirmation bias. Do I then summarise the entirety of critical response based on the reviews I've selected? No. Because it's not my place to do so in a neutral encyclopedia, and it's not my place to enforce my bias, whether it's conscious or deliberate. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:16, 18 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your extreme politeness.Kindly try to understand, the views of the critic that I have included in 'Critical Reception' are overall verdict of that critic on the film. These views are not biased.Talking about the 'mixed' reviews, I had done that after going through 66 reviews on this film. Which is enough to prove my claim. Moreover it is removed now.Again thanks for your 'kindness'.Aruvn (talk) 15:29, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * - "I had done that after going through 66 reviews on this film. Which is enough to prove my claim." I'm still concerned that you don't understand the point. It's not our place to draw conclusions about subjective matters no matter how much "proof" we have. We only care what reliable published sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy have to say about anything, and per our Manual of Style for film articles, "The overall critical response to a film should be supported by attributions to reliable sources." This means that we need to quote a reliable source that says "response to the film was mixed", not come up with the summary ourselves. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:35, 18 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry. Now, I got the point. From next time I will take care of it.I'm new here and doesn't know much about the norms. Hope you understand.Thank you.Aruvn (talk) 15:43, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Process of fixing Portal:Current events archive pages
Hi! Would you take a look at my process for fixing the archives that I've been using. Does it seem like this is an appropriate method of working with these pages or would you recommend some other method? Thanks! &#32;— RossO (talk) 04:20, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

OK
No offence but how can I chill out when other editors ruin the info I have posted on which I have worked hard for so long. Mahir M (talk) 05:49, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry
Well TBH I am sorry for my comments and I hope you forgive me.

You have opened my mind and one last request I have for you is:

What is your nationality of where are you from?

I'd be looking forward to your reply and set things straight.

Once again I'm truly regretful towards my wrongdoings and tell Sakhan14j I'm sorry too and let us forget all these crap and move w/ out arguments.

My Bad 🙁 Mahir, 🇧🇩 Mahir M (talk) 15:53, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

About 'Improperly sourced summary of critical response'
Hi. I think you are contributing your edits by 'over-analyzing' the subjects which also breaches the neutral tone expected in an encyclopedia. You yourself, are 'cherry-picking' the lines which are against the word 'lauded'. As far as my 'new' reference is concerned you should read the 'concluding line' or 'titles' which straight- forward tells the overall results. So, in this case the particular sources have overall 'lauded' the performance etc in their respective overall verdicts and what you are highlighting is your 'cherry-picked' lines from their criticisms. Also, I have given due credit to the overall criticism that was only against the screenplay of this film.I have also added 'mostly' which itself explain's that there is little critisim also present .I hope you understood. If not, you can message me your queries on Aruvn (talk) 17:00, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why my talk page has become the place to have this discussion, when I opened a discussion at Talk:Simran (film) that I also pinged you to. I'm going to copy your comment above and paste it there so that anyone interested in the article can contribute if they wish. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:29, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Problem occurred by me at Bigg Boss Telugu 1.png
At first I uploaded a new version of that file at Bigg Boss Telugu 1.png. After uploading new version I see new and old versions look as same may be that occurred due to my faulty internet today. And I uploaded again and it repeated as same as previous one. Then I uploaded a new file with different tittle it is located at Bigg Boss Telugu Season 1.png now I added delection tag to Bigg Boss Telugu 1.png.

This is problem occurred by me can you fix it? I apologize for that  Joshq.JQ   15:50, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm not sure if I understand what you need help with. Can you be a little more specific? Do you want me to delete File:Bigg Boss Telugu 1.png? or File:Bigg Boss Telugu 1.png? Or neither? Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:57, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@ The problem is File:Bigg Boss Telugu Season 1.png is identified as duplicate of File:Bigg Boss Telugu 1.png. So can you delete File:Bigg Boss Telugu 1.png  Joshq.JQ   16:04, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity, wouldn't it make more sense to delete File:Bigg Boss Telugu Season 1.png, because it is the newer one? Seems like we'd want to preserve the upload history of the image. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:26, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@ please visit both files and you decide to delete one.  Joshq.JQ   16:32, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I deleted File:Bigg Boss Telugu Season 1.png. Bigg Boss Telugu (season 1) might be missing an image now. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:42, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for this help Cyphoidbomb.  Joshq.JQ   16:53, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Remove Pissedconsumer.com from "media-wiki blacklist"
Hello Cyphoidbomb,

You added Pissedconsumer.com website to the media-wiki blacklist in August 2016 for the following reason: "As of this note there are about 20 links across the project. The site redirects to "Four Seasons Sunrooms Complaints and Reviews" at four-seasons-sunrooms.pissedconsumer.com/ which is obviously not a useful source of any kind. Both sites should be blacklisted, and I'll gladly do the honors."

I do not agree with you decision. This website is one of the leading platforms in consumer advocacy industry where users can share their opinion on products, services from different companies. This website was subjected to black SEO attack ordered by "Four Seasons Sunrooms" company. Please, find here more information - pissedconsumer.com/blog/2017/09/negative-seo-on-pissedconsumer-and-its-effects/

Kindly ask you to remove site from "media-wiki blacklist". Please contact me again if I can help in any way. Kind regards, ElinaSivak (talk) 10:50, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * What value does this site have at a global encyclopedia? How does it meet either our guidelines on reliable sources or our guidelines on external links? What scenario do you envision where it would be appropriate to include links to pissedconsumer.com? Based on what you've written above, describing the site as one "where users can share their opinion on products, services from different companies", I'm having trouble envisioning constructive utility of the site at Wikipedia, since as a general attitude, Wikipedia doesn't care what random people on the internet think about any given subject. Do you have any thoughts on this? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:13, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Precisely this. Blacklist removal requests from established editors who can demonstrate the site has encyclopedic utility are given the most consideration. MER-C 11:45, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Dear Cyphoidbomb,

Sorry for the delay in responding. I took the liberty of contacting the company and doing a bit of further research before responding to you. Besides doing my own research, I was assisted to put together this response by Michael Podolsky, CEO of Opinion Corp(holding company of PissedConsumer), for full disclosure.

Thank you very much for responding and spending your time reviewing our situation. Pissed Consumer has been an online platform since 2006 and this exchange will hopefully help clarify who we are, what we do, and why we're relevant to Wikipedia and its users. Wikipedia pages exist for other sites in our industry, and we do not feel they necessarily have more notoriety than us. Yet Pissed Consumer has not been able to get a Wikipedia page for years. I am asking you for an objective review and reconsideration to remove us from your blacklist.

As I am affiliated with Pissed Consumer, I do not intend to write the Wikipedia page myself to avoid a conflict of interest, though I'm happy to provide information if necessary. What I would like, however, is reconsideration of our site and company being blacklisted, so a page can be created.

As I'm aware you consider a company's notoriety in these matters, and as I see you're concerned about what value a consumer review site might have to encyclopedia users, I hope you'll find the below background helpful.

In addition to publishing consumer reviews, Pissed Consumer has been a trusted source of information for media outlets large and small, and even government agencies, for years. We're involved in more than consumer reviews. We're in consumer advocacy, and we've actively worked to protect consumers from unscrupulous reputation management schemes.

Pissed Consumer has been the winning side of prominent industry court cases protecting online publishers of user-generated content. Scams we've uncovered were reportedly a factor influencing changes in policy with Google (information below), as well as an investigation by the Texas State Attorney General. And PissedConsumer has also been active in industry events, presenting at and sponsoring several conferences. As one example, I've been invited to speak at Ungagged in both Las Vegas and London (https://www.ungagged.com/speaker/michael-podolsky/).

I hope you'll consider this broader industry relevance in your review and understand Pissed Consumer is about much more than just the consumer reviews we publish.

Major Media Press Coverage:


 * Bloomberg.com - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-16/centurylink-is-accused-of-running-wells-fargo-like-scheme
 * New York Post - http://nypost.com/2017/04/25/did-oreos-change-their-recipe-without-telling-us/
 * Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/31/lawsuit-against-lawyers-who-allegedly-filed-improper-lawsuits-aimed-at-getting-internet-criticism-deindexed-by-google/?utm_term=.da826c0768b6
 * CBS News - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/complaints-pile-up-over-shady-holiday-sites/
 * CNN Money - http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/13/pf/dealing_with_customer_service.moneymag/
 * Forbes - https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2017/09/14/the-man-who-duped-google-into-suppressing-bad-corporate-reviews/2/#481c213923c6

Coverage in other media includes:


 * Courthouse News - https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-accuse-sapphire-exec-extreme-google-scrubbing/
 * Cincinnati.com - http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2016/11/03/battle-rages-online-reviews-v-reputations/93163892/
 * TechDirt - https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?company=pissedconsumer
 * ArsTechnica - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/lawyers-file-fake-lawsuits-to-de-index-online-negative-reviews-suit-says/

These are just a handful of media outlets that have referenced Pissed Consumer as a story or source over the years. Here is more information about key industry issues and some of the bigger stories we've been involved in to give you more context on Pissed Consumer's relevance to Wikipedia users doing research: 1. Pissed Consumer discovered a major scam that was picked up by the Texas AG and a number of media outlets. Legal cases have already been brought as a result of this discovery (more info at the link below), regarding falsification of US California court orders.
 * www.pissedconsumer.com/blog/2016/03/dark-side-of-online-reputation-management-orm/

We were the ones who uncovered the scheme and worked with journalists, such as Eugene Volokh(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Volokh), and other relevant parties (http://Citizen.org) to expose it.

These important legal cases affect the rights and responsibilities of online publishers of user-generated content, and they’ve continued since we exposed the scam last year. These stories referencing us were both published within just the last couple of weeks:
 * https://www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/801
 * https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2017/09/14/the-man-who-duped-google-into-suppressing-bad-corporate-reviews/#d60ac9e4ba44 (We’re cited on page 2 of this article.)

2. As a result of Pissed Consumer discoveries and close communications with Google (based on information from these posts)…
 * www.pissedconsumer.com/blog/2016/03/dark-side-of-online-reputation-management-orm/
 * www.pissedconsumer.com/blog/2016/04/dirty-games-with-dmca-notices-for-pittsburgh-cbs-and-pissedconsumer/

Google changed its policies when it comes to processing complaints about defamatory content, and requiring court orders. You can find more info below:
 * https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170102/10525036384/google-apparently-no-longer-humoring-court-orders-to-delist-defamatory-content.shtml

3. PissedConsumer was embattled with Roca Labs in the Florida courts in a prominent case over an issue the FTC was also involved in. This case involved Roca Labs using questionable gag clauses and legal threats to try to silence consumers from sharing negative feedback about them publicly on third party websites by actually suing those third party websites. You can find more information about that here:
 * https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151021/16242632592/roca-labs-loses-lawsuit-against-pissed-consumer-badly.shtml

Pissed Consumer is a website used by millions of people around the world as a source for information before making important buying decisions. We help consumers share their experiences and conduct research while helping companies resolve customers' problems to protect and improve their reputations. But we're also a consumer advocacy platform that has, several times over the years, fought to expose scams and abusive DMCA behavior by some companies to protect both consumers and companies publishing consumer content.

We do more than display reviews online. Our software allows us to analyze and highlight hot issues being reported by consumers, sometimes with industry or timely importance. That's made us a trusted source over the years for everything from major media outlets to smaller industry publications. In addition to that and our continued efforts to expose scams and other industry concerns we come across, we also make recommendations to consumers on how to address their issues with companies to seek actual resolutions and even prevent customer service problems before they occur.

I hope this helps you see why Pissed Consumer is more than just a collection of reviews, and why we've become a source of information for consumers and companies related to customer service, online reputation management, and even online publishing issues. I hope Wikipedia users will be able to learn more about Pissed Consumer and these important cases and issues we've been involved with on this site soon, along with other consumer review services already featured (including Ripoff Report, Consumer Reports, Epinions, Yelp, and GripeO).

Thank you again for your time and consideration in removing Pissed Consumer from blacklist. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to try to answer them for you. ElinaSivak (talk) 14:27, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Vacating a nameplace to make way for another
Hi Cyphoidbomb. Could you have a look at my request here? Or must I lsit this for a bot to do? Regards, Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 12:42, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * - ✅ Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:00, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Great stuff! Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 13:05, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Permission for add image on Meri Durga
Hello user:Cyphoidbomb,

I want to add a photo on Meri Durga artical. So please give me Permission for add image on Meri Durga.

Thanks, user:Siddiqsazzad001
 * Hi There's already an image in the infobox. What image are you trying to add to the article, and where do you intend to add it? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Question from Li wei ran
Hi sir, how do appeal for unblock ticket request system in Tamil wikipedia? User talk:Li wei ran 09.12, 02 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about the Tamil Wikipedia, but isn't there a link in the block notice? Looks like it to me. Wikipedia takes copyright violations seriously, so you're going to need to convince reviewing administrators that you understand our copyright policies before going through UTRS. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Question
Hello Cyphoidbomb, Did you have a chance to take a look at the update to the message 'Remove Pissedconsumer.com from "media-wiki blacklist"'? I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some feedback on it. Kind Regards, ElinaSivak (talk) 15:46, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. I've been swamped. the best place for you to present your argument would be at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist. Please read the giant orange-ish block before proceeding. While I believe it possible that pissedconsumer.com did not do the spamming themselves, you're probably going to need to explain to the world-weary admins how removing the domain from the blacklist is going to benefit Wikipedia. As I believe I've said, it's unlikely that the site could ever meet our reliable sourcing guidelines, or that it meets our guidelines on external links. So why would a link ever be added to an article here? That's what you'll need to sell. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:54, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Infobox - Deepika Padukone (Bollywood actress)
I’ve tried to add an Infobox for Miss Padukone, as many others have tried previously but some other randon user reverted the changes back. I had added all the necessary details along with references where possible but still, couldn’t let that Infobox where it should have been. Can you see to it which issues are not been addressed to and why can’t she have an Infobox like all others? Thank You! Harper04 (talk) 12:15, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * To understand why you're being reverted, you'd need to read the lengthy discussion about it in the article's talk page archives. If you don't have time for that, the short answer is that a local consensus was established to omit it, and according to Wikipedia's Arbitration Committee, there is no rule preventing or prohibiting the inclusion of infoboxes. So it sort of becomes a local consensus matter. Some users argued against the aesthetics, some users felt it was pointless to have a basic infobox if the same content could be easily found in the lead, some editors are just generally averse to infoboxes, etc. The only alternative for change would be to open a Request for Comment, to solicit input from other community members. This is usually done over a 30-day period. Do I think it's worth the effort? Probably not. Re: your comment on the talk page, "even Deepika deserves an Infobox, as minor as it seems!" Infoboxes aren't badges of honor, they're mechanisms for delivering content. If the other editors who put together that Featured Article felt that the content could be delivered in the lead instead, I'd probably yield on the argument, even if I personally disagreed and felt there was a good deal of dick-waving going on. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:40, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello. I went through all the discussions (as genuinely lengthy as they were) and saw that one of the users said that if nore details such as Alma Matter, place of residence etc were found; then an Infobox would be suitable. So, If these are found along with proper references, an Infobox would then deemed worthy? Harper04 (talk) 21:51, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * This is something you're going to have to discuss with other interested members of that article. You've already opened the discussion, why not clarify what you'd like to see added, and consider "ping"ing members who have previously voiced an opinion about it. You can ping users by adding to your comment, like:
 * Do you have an opinion on the above?
 * The ping system is a little bit delicate, so you need to be sure that you proofread your comments before you sign your post and save. If you try to go back and fix something after you've pinged someone, it may interfere with them receiving a proper notification. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:17, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Super Why page
Hello, Cyphoidbomb, can you please do some improvements and edits on the Super Why page? I have done many improvements on it and see if it was helpful. You can do it also. SamSpielberg1 (talk) 20:55, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Can you please confirm this photo ?
Hi Cyphoidbomb,

File:Yeh-Hai-Mohabbatein.jpg

I think this file is copyright by Star Plus. The poster belongs to Star Plus and the poster must be non-free use. But the uploader said that the poster belongs to Pranay Star and source is by him. This photo must be speedy deletion. Can you do something? Because I am only a Autoconfirmed user.

Thanks,Siddiqsazzad001 (talk) 16:36, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I have tagged the image as a copyright violation —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:11, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Plot Updated
Hello Cyphoidbomb

I updated Ishqbaaaz plot. Because the prevoius plot too old. I updated present story but it extend over 500 words. I can't delete previous story because that is also important. My plot get 337 words extra. Because plot story can't be possible in 500 words. Hope you understood my problem.

Thank you, Siddiqsazzad001 (talk) 13:59, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course it can be done in 500 words. The issue is that nobody wants to cut anything. We're not trying to replace the experience of watching the TV series, only to describe briefly the general shape of the show. Some of the character detail could be moved to the character list, like that Jhanvi is an alcoholic or that Omkara is a billionaire drug addict, or that Rudra is a playboy, etc. The ideal way to deal with plot is to create a list of episodes within that article, and write individual summaries for episodes, like what we have at List of Garfield and Friends episodes (I'm not proposing a unique article for this, by the way.) Only problem is: nobody ever wants to do this for Indian television shows, and instead we get giant walls of incoherent prose, like this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:50, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Complain about this user
Hi Cyphoidbomb,

I want to complain about user:Patelhime. This user just adding : { {div col} } { { div col end } } on Ishqbaaaz cast section. I think it is not valid on this section. Now I fixed but if he again do in this secion what should we do about this?

Thank you, Siddiqsazzad001 (talk) 16:17, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Editing part
Yes, we are on the same page. --Princessruby (talk) 13:56, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Really appreciate your kind explaination. Thanks.--Princessruby (talk) 20:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

That's cool. I think it looks much better now. --Princessruby (talk) 20:24, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Paid Editor?
I didn't realise by creating articles, I would be considered a paid editor. For your information, I'm not a paid editor. I only create pages about the celebs and shows I like. This is the first time that I've created a Wikipedia page for an upcoming TV show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princessruby (talk • contribs) 23:38, October 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * The issue was raised because your editing behavior at Rishta Likhenge Hum Naya‎ and Pehredaar Piya Ki shares similarities with the many paid editors that have caused problems in articles. Suppression of negative information, ex: burying negative film reviews or masking controversy, is a classic move. Reprinting press releases and otherwise adhering to official narrative is another. If you're not a paid editor, great. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:49, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * - You know I just deleted the message and replied the message you left on my talk page, if you could check it out. Oh okay, well I didn't realize that, cause I created the page for fun, just like I do for celebs. I've been an editor for a very long time now, because Im sort of a Wikipedia addict. I don't know I guess, when I see that a celeb does not have a wiki page yet, i rush and create one for him or her, the same with the upcoming TV show, I noticed it doesn't have a page yet, so I created one. I don't usually create tv show pages, so I decided to give it a shot. Lol, no I'm not. If u still feel like I'm a paid editor, then you can go ahead and delete the page cause I really don't care about the promotional part as I'm not working for anyone. --Princessruby (talk) 23:58, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll take you at your word, and the fact that you are being more communicative is helpful. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:07, 9 October 2017 (UTC)


 * } - Thanks buddy. You seem like a nice person, not all editors/admins are nice. I still have a lot to learn about Wikipedia from you. --Princessruby (talk) 00:13, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Are you aware of Assamese Brahmin Surnames and Gotras (Lineage) at all?
Article doesn't need to mention about Zubeen Garg as a Brahmin, his Gotra and his actual surname Borthakur is sufficient to indicate that he his a Brahmin. Please read Assam's history to understand differences in surnames and the communities they represent before reverting. Quibitos (talk)

I respect your administrative rights but clearly you are not from the region or the community to know people from the Brahmin community of Assam. I have only added the categories to those people who are Brahmins. You will find other biography articles from Assam having similar surnames but I have not added the category as it is known to the Assamese population that they are not Brahmins. It is really sad that you have no knowledge of the region, let alone the knowledge of the community, but you're questioning a native person who knows the subject well? If you really want to validate and want to genuinely audit it, please assign it to an Assamese Wikipedia Administrator to review and confirm. Quibitos (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC) Bhattacharya, Goswami etc., are not Brahmin surnames? Could you explain the rationale behind your reverts? Quibitos (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:35, 9 October 2017 (UTC) Please read this, and this and many others that you would find when you would try and understand more about people of Assam and the communities. Quibitos (talk) 02:53, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

User I'm concerned with - Ason271
So, I think we've got a doppleganger or it's a clever sock of. It's Ason271. They've been hitting a fair number of articles that edits, and their style is very similar to GOOD morning (and all of their IP socks). What do you think? Ravensfire ( talk ) 04:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Ason sounds familiar. I'm going offline for several hours, so I'll have to look into it later. If I somehow forget, I'd appreciate if you'd please remind me. Thanks and regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:54, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Did some digging this morning and I'm very confident. SPI is so backlogged and since this is both socking and impersonation, thought to circumvent the process.  First issue is the name - Ason27 has been around for a while and is a decent editor.  They had a pretty big conflict with GOOD morning that ended up with GM being blocked for repeated edit-warring and multiple unfounded accusations.  Here's the user interaction analysis.  Rcent IP socks of GOOD morning have been using the same phrasing as 271 in their edit summaries.  (Socks are in the 117.249.* - 117.249.* range and are very visible in the articles 271 has edited).  Same habits of re-ordering casts by arbitrary guidelines.  And note this revert you made of their edits to Ravensfire ( talk ) 15:26, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi - Just want to be sure I understand what you're saying. You believe Ason271 is an impostor account? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:29, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It's a sock of GOOD morning that's acting as an imposter of Ason27. Take the username that you've had a conflict with and add 1 to the name?  Just a wee bit obvious. Ravensfire ( talk ) 15:30, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Mole has been whacked. Thanks for the tip! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:49, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank ya kindly! Ravensfire ( talk ) 15:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * And thanks as always for your usual brand of conscientious open-eye editing. We need more good eggs like you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:00, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks alot for your concern! I had the same doubt but does not want to dig up the issue. Again thanks alot!! And to you too. Ason27 (talk) 15:17, 11 October 2017 (UTC)