User talk:D.S. Lioness

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 Welcome to Wikipedia, D.S. Lioness!



December 2023
Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that your recent edit to Konstantinos Karamanlis did not have an edit summary. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit, or to provide a description of what the edit changes. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances that your edit will be misunderstood. For some edits, an adequate summary may be quite brief.

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Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account you can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting, and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! Uness232 (talk) 19:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * o,k,! Thank you D.S. Lioness (talk) 19:27, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Disruptive Canvassing
It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 14:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * It was only a friendly  notice as described in the relevant instruction
 * "Editors who have participated in previous discussions on the same topic (or closely related topics)" D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:27, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Tatoi Royal Cemetery
I reverted your edit to Tatoi Royal Cemetery because the subject is not notable. You might develop content about Tatoi Royal Cemetery in your user sandbox or in draftspace. Wikipedia requires significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources. Chris Troutman ( talk )  19:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)


 * It is notable. I will add sources today, because yesterday i didn't have time. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Instead of that, why not develop the content in Tatoi_Palace? You could take your time and write about the cemetery by expanding that section and, when it's ready, follow WP:SPINOUT. Starting a new article from scratch seldom goes well.  Chris Troutman  ( talk )  17:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * If you believe that is not so notable to standalone, ok. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring at Anna Panagiotopoulou
Hello D.S. Lioness. You've been warned for edit warring due to a complaint at WP:AN3. Let me know if you have any questions. EdJohnston (talk) 14:43, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Afroditi Latinopoulou
Your edits at Afroditi Latinopoulou though appreciated, you need to format the references you use. Now you leave bare sources/references which could lead to deletion of said references. Regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * There are citations bots. Anyway, I'll do my best. D.S. Lioness (talk) 01:43, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You removed cited content, manipulated some sources, and reverted to a version of the page with numerous grammatical errors. Please refrain from doing this again, as it is considered vandalism.
 * Michalis1994 (talk) 21:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Αλήθεια; θα πρέπει να φέρεις diffs που αποδεικνύουν τους ισχυρισμούς σου. D.S. Lioness (talk) 00:56, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

June 2024
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Afroditi Latinopoulou, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. ''If you think others talk page comments are inappropriate, you can request them to edit and strike them (either in reply or on their talk page). In the case you think that another user has violated policies/guidelines with their talk page comments, you should involve administrators rather than editing their comments.'' -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 02:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * To ensure you don't think I'm being one sided on this, I also did advise the other user that they should consider striking their comments - and regardless if they do that or not, you should still feel free to bring that up to administrators. That said, keep in mind that if their assertion that you are engaging in behavior here that you've been blocked for on another project prior, then that too may be examined if you try to bring them to administrator attention for their comment. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 02:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have already done this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Insults_/_Bullying D.S. Lioness (talk) 02:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't Knew it. Thank you very much. D.S. Lioness (talk) 02:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Information icon4.svg There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:24, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Insanityclown1 (talk) 05:28, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

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Κόμμα Νίκη
Καλημέρα, κάποιος Mihalis1994 στο λήμμα του κομματος Νίκη αφαίρεσε αναιτιολόγητα τη λέξη Δεξία υποστηρίζοντας οτι η πηγή δεν το αναφέρει.Αν μπορείς κοίταξε το. 79.107.42.248 (talk) 07:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Δεν είναι εύκολο με αυτό το χρήστη να έρθεις σε συνεννόηση. Η αλήθεια όμως όμως είναι, ότι το κόμμα χαρακτηρίζεται ακροδεξιό από τη συντριπτική πλειοψηφία των πηγών, οπότε αν μια πηγή το χαρακτηρίζει δεξιό, δεν έχει καμμιά σημασία και σωστά την αφαίρεσε. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ναι από ότι κατάλαβα υποστηρίζει ένα συγκεκριμένο κόμμα..
 * Σχετικα με τη πηγή τωρα, εφόσον υπάρχει δεν θα έπρεπε να συμπεριληφθεί ;
 * Ποσο μάλλον όταν στο Βελόπουλο έχουν βάλει δεξιά, + ότι δεν ταυτιζεται Νίκη με Σπαρτιάτες και ΧΑ για να έχει αποκλειστικά Ακροδεξια.(προφανώς δεν λέω να αφαιρεθεί η Ακροδεξιά, λεω να γίνει αναφορά στη Δεξιά ) 79.107.42.248 (talk) 19:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * όχι, είναι αντίθετο προς την πολιτική της βπ να μπει μια μειοψηφούσα άποψη δες εδώ: Reliable sources and undue weight. Και να θυμάσαι πάντα: εδώ δεν είναι ελληνική βικιπαίδεια, που έχει καταντήσει τσαντήρι και ο καθένας κάνει ότι θέλει. Εδώ οι πολιτικές ακολουθούνται. D.S. Lioness (talk) 19:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

On the subject of the Voice of Reason party
Καλημέρα. I have seen a specific user called Michalis revert any major or minor edits that have been attempted on the Voice of Reason article for the past weeks. While I am no fan of that party, I do believe the sources used to characterize it are biased at best, malicious at worst. Since I am not a registered user, could you please do a check on the sources used on the Voice of Reason article and verify their quality? Alot of them seem really unfit to be source material. Thank you and have a nice day. 2A02:587:546A:B500:D548:55A1:154E:9A4F (talk) 10:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Καταθέστε την άποψή σας στη σελίδα συζήτησης του λήμματος - προκειμένου να δημοσιοποιηθεί η διαφωνία σας, που δεν είναι μόνο δική σας αλλά και πολλών άλλων. Δεν μπορώ να εμπλέκομαι μόνο εγώ σε διορθοπόλεμο με το χρήστη. D.S. Lioness (talk) 16:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

July 2024
 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at Niki (Greek political party). Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You breached 3RR (1, 2, 3, 4), and you were previously warned about edit warring on 16 May 2024. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_(Greek_political_party)&diff=prev&oldid=1232437318 see the edit summary, i just add text
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_(Greek_political_party)&diff=prev&oldid=1232450035 see edit summary
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_(Greek_political_party)&diff=prev&oldid=1232491781 see edit summary
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_(Greek_political_party)&diff=prev&oldid=1232609958 see edit summary /deleted documented text with misleading explanation
 * Also, see here and here
 * I am sorry but you have not been able to fulfil your duties. D.S. Lioness (talk) 03:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Your last two links are to the entire history of M1994's talk page and an SPI in which the responding admin has said you haven't provided enough evidence. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * the first link is about the habit of Michalis1994 to blank his talk page. If you pay attention you will see a lot of tags about behavioral problems not only by me.
 * Regarding the second link I gave all the information requested.  just wait for the results to come out . not for any other reason but because you think his a  new user. D.S. Lioness (talk) 03:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok. Users are allowed to blank warnings on their talk pages; the assumption is that they are aware of them. I'll keep an eye on the SPI. You'll really be helping the responding admin if you change those revision links to diffs. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Firefangledfeathers No one can get away with user Michalis1994. It will constantly undo any edits to keep its own. In case you call him on the Talk page, you will only get irony.
 * Someone has to check this and hopefully stop it.. L.S. WikiCleaner (talk) 15:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * In English, referring to other people as "it" is considered offensive. I see plenty of non-ironic talk page comments from them. I am surprised to see they called your edits "vandalism", so I asked at their user talk page. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Your comments at Talk:Niki (Greek political party) have included too much personal commentary. If you have a conduct accusation to make about another editor—e.g. that they "deliberately and constantly slander" others—follow the steps of WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE, which involve discussion somewhere other than the article talk page. I don't want to imply that you're the only one making this mistake, but addressing it now would be very helpful. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I just answer to personal attacks of Michalis who keep accusing for being a sockpuppet. I dont want to continue this battle. So i will remove my comments. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I have already an ANI open. I think it is not acceptable to open a second ANI D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You're correct. Thank you for removing some comments. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Introduction to contentious topics
The above message is meant to be neutral, and it says "does not imply that there are any issues with your editing". To be clear, there have been issues with your edits in this topic area. You reported an editor for edit warring who had not breached 3RR, while you yourself had violated the rule, having previously been warned about edit warring. This may have been an error (a serious one), or it may have been battleground conduct. I hope it was the former, and I urge you to use reverts less and discussion more. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * There is a daily constant edit warring in all the extreme right-wing Greek political parties. It is better to add this template to the discussion pages rather than mine, let alone that you cannot understand the quality of my contribution, and my daily "struggle" for reliable sources and npov content. D.S. Lioness (talk) 03:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You're right that it might help to add notices to affected talk pages. We usually use Template:Contentious topics/talk notice, which any user (not just admins) can add to pages that are obviously covered by the contentious topic. I'll add it to Talk:Niki (Greek political party) now. I want you to know that I am not judging the quality of your contributions or the legitimacy of your struggle. I assume you're doing good work. I hope you'll continue to do so while being more careful about edit warring. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * One last question. when I invite someone to a discussion on the article's talk page and they don't participate, what should I do? D.S. Lioness (talk) 03:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It's hard to give an answer that will work in all such cases, but generally I'd suggest waiting some time (maybe 2 days or so) and then repeating the edit if they don't respond. I'd wait less time if it's an important issue and more time (like a week) if it's not a big deal. This doesn't need to be your last question, but I will be stepping away from my computer soonish. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I mean when the user is active but do not respond to my invitation. D.S. Lioness (talk) 03:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * That's what I figured you meant. That's where I would wait a while before re-doing the edit. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The text added in that fourth diff was content being disputed in an ongoing RfC, and your edit summary shows you were aware of the RfC (and you've commented in it). It partially reverted many edits, including this one, by (for example) changing the first sentence to say "far right" instead of "in the conservative space". Use of "far right" in the lead is one of the questions being considered in the RfC. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

July 2024
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain pages (Afroditi Latinopoulou) for abuse of editing privileges. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Per Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What is abuse of editing privileges? Where in "Wikipedia:Disruptive editing" refers to my case? D.S. Lioness (talk) 00:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * DSL, instead of asking this sort of question, I encourage you to take some time as a break and then re-read the ANI discussion, which includes quite a bit of specific critical feedback. You obviously disagreed with much of it, but you're only avenue to getting unblocked/unbanned is appealing to the community. You'll want to be able to say that you heard the community's feedback and have changed accordingly. Comments you make now might make that future appeal harder. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I am totally unfamiliar how English wp works. the Greek Wikipedia works in a completely different way so I am constantly surprised. I take the Greek Wikipedia for granted and react according to those policies. I have no bad intentions, I just have to adapt to a completely different way of operating, D.S. Lioness (talk) 01:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This community is unlike any other. A lot of the rules and norms are common sense, and some are bizarre and surprising. I think most people are able to mold themselves to roughly fit in here. I hope you are too. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:48, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I will try...Thank you D.S. Lioness (talk) 01:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * by the way https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Afroditi_Latinopoulou&diff=1233979914&oldid=1233935847 change his mind. D.S. Lioness (talk) 01:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Just Step Sideways. Your notice here mentions the p-block, and your close at ANI says there is consensus for a TBAN, with this p-block serving as enforcement. Is DSL subject to a TBAN, and if so, what is its scope? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Good questions,thank you for asking. As near as I can tell the proposal, which was not particularly specific, it is from the subject of Afroditi Latinopoulou, as usual it should be taken to be broadly construed as applying to any content, on any page, related to him. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 04:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. "her", FYI. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * My bad, I only read the ANI thread. Now that I have taken a moment to parse out her name it is very obviously female. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 04:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)