User talk:DAFMM/Test

Arborology and Dendrology
I noticed you are thinking of starting a page on Arborology. I see there is already a short page on Dendrology which is described as the study of trees and woody plants. I am no expert, but that seems to be the same thing and it was a word I had already heard but I haven't heard of Arborology (though I know of words with the same root such as arborist, arboretum etc). Perhaps you should think of expanding the Dendrology page (and putting a reference to Arborology). If, on the other hand, they are completely separate disciplines, it shows that there is a real need for something to differentiate them! Dabbler (talk) 15:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've noticed there is an article for Arboriculture. Is this the same thing as Arborology or are they different? Barret (talk) 21:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * They are slightly different but basically have the same meaning as with arborology.


 * With compliments.


 * DAFMM.

Image captions
Hello I see you are adding a full stop to every image caption you find. I thought you might like to know that, unless the caption is a complete sentence, this is unnecessary. From Wikipedia's Manual of Style: "Most captions are not complete sentences, but merely nominal groups (sentence fragments) that should not end with a period." Cheers. BarretBonden (talk) 16:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I was here to say the same thing. Adding periods to captions is not necessary. Also, even if it was necessary, massive minor edits such as this can be handled by a bot. Do not concern yourself with such trivial fixes, it is better to concentrate on improving the quality of articles instead of things such as this. But thanks anyway! -- ErgoSum • talk • trib  18:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * In reply to DAFMM – sorry but you are wrong. Did you even look at MOS:CAPTIONS? Please make an effort to follow Wikipedia's manual of style instead of disregarding it for your own personal preferences. Regards. BarretBonden (talk) 12:08, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

ANI
Hello DAFMM. You've been mentioned at WP:ANI. You may wish to add your own comment there. See also a discussion thread at Talk:Boeing_777 about the GA promotion issue. I think that some more steps may be needed before the article can be promoted to A class. EdJohnston (talk) 01:48, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ed, I was about to inform DAFMM about the ANI, as a matter of courtesy. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC).
 * Hello DAFMM. I've replied to your comment at User talk:EdJohnston. EdJohnston (talk) 19:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Mentorship
Further to the comments above DAFMM, some users have noticed that your edits can be a little unconventional at times. You could consider Mentorship, perhaps by going to Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area, or by approaching users you have interacted with in the past? If you have an interest in aviation, you could post specific questions at WP:AVIATION about how reviews and other processes work, rather than jumping in at the deep end. This would give you the ability to make the maximum use of your time and edits, and ease your interaction with other users. Benea (talk) 02:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As you wish, though I would urge you to take on board the concerns of other editors. If in doubt try to ask someone first. The updated link to the section on WP:ANI is here FYI. Benea (talk) 18:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Details on the types of reviews and assessments, and how they are conducted can be found on their pages, WP:PR for peer reviews, WP:GAN for Good Article reviews and WP:FAC for featured articles, for example. It is usually a good idea to consult the guidelines on specific wikiprojects as well to get a general sense of how they grade articles in their remit, and what criteria they use. WP:Aviation's for example is here. Benea (talk) 18:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Notable Royal Navy Officers of the Napoleonic Wars
A tag has been placed on Notable Royal Navy Officers of the Napoleonic Wars requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. RadioFan (talk) 17:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Reply:

RadioFan,

You posted the proposed deletion tag on the page Notable Royal Navy Officers of the Napoleonic Wars just a few minutes after I had created the page! If you carry on doing this you will have deleted so many pages before they can even start editing them. Just becuase people like you have a lot of time on your hands others of us do actually try and work! You can't go around complaining about other people who are innocently trying to improve and expand Wikipedia. Here are some other posts from other poor users who you have harassed:

I am working on the page "Mark Batterson" Can you let me finish? Infoguy2020 (talk) 18:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC) - Matt aka infoguy2020
 * discussion of the Mark Batterson has been moved to your talk page.--RadioFan (talk) 17:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

What is wrong with the Annie Mumolo article? -ραncακemisτακe (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no indication of how she is notable. Simply being an actress isn't sufficient.  Even appearing in some well known films isn't sufficient either.  Based on the roles listed here, she appears to be an extra in most of the films and TV shows she's appeared in.  See WP:ENTERTAINER for guidelines.--RadioFan (talk) 17:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, all of her voice over works listed under "Television" are main/recurring roles. -ραncακemisτακe (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * These dont seem very significant. Let's take it to AFD for other editors to weigh in.--RadioFan (talk) 17:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

You must have tagged this article within a few minutes of my posting an initial version, which seems a little harsh. I was hoping to return to this tomorrow but in the circumstances thought I had better add to it tonight. Please consider removing the tags. Exclaim (talk) 22:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The article lacks references demonstrating its notability and someone who "sporadically works" doesn't sound very notable either.--RadioFan (talk) 13:03, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

You are being unfair and a right nusaince.

With compliments.

DAFMM (talk), 5th July 2009.


 * The article is essentially empty. Just doing some house cleaning.  Also please do not remove deletion tags when adding the hangon tag.--RadioFan (talk) 17:55, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Reply:

Your user page isn't "very significant" either but administrators don't delete it.

With compliments.

DAFMM (talk), 5th July 2009.


 * I'm sorry if this upset you but my user page isn't at issue here. The intent isn't to harass but is part of new page patrolling. New pages which do not meet Wikipedia guidelines are tagged by volunteers like myself, then reviewed by administrators who make the final determination if an article should be deleted or handled otherwise. Your article is very short, essentially restating the title. There is no way to know if you plan to further expand it or simple create a single sentence and forget it. So it is tagged for deletion.--RadioFan (talk) 18:04, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Reply:

Maybe you should give users enough time to actually expand from the title in the future.

DAFMM (talk), 5th July 2009.

P. S. Bugger the article. It is to much hassle to try and start an article because of timewasters like you.

User:DAFMM/Notable Royal Navy Officers of the Napoleonic Wars
I have moved the article to your userspace for now where you can work on it as much as you like until it is ready for mainspace. Thanks. – B.hotep •talk• 18:38, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.

DAFMM (talk), 6th July 2009.

Tony Marchington
''Who is he? I would really like to know. Did he go to Oxford like Graham Richards?''
 * I really don't know. I was only adding Graham Richards as another famous Old Birkonian.

Also have you heard of the forgotten hero Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald?
 * I will look into him when I return from vacation.

JMcC (talk) 17:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok then. Cochrane is very interesting.

DAFMM (talk), 14th July 2009.

talk pages
Please do not create talk pages consisting solely of your username, even if you do blank them a few minutes later. DS 16:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Why not? 21st July 2009. P. S. Do you speak English? Well write as though you do.


 * First, insulting people who are trying to give you advice is not friendly, as anative speaker of English, I find DS's usage to be perfectly acceptable. Secondly when I see a non-redlink Talk page in an article I will often look at it to see what has been discussed. if I then find that someone has blanked it after just putting in their username, that is a waste of my time and is very discourteous to other users. Please refrain from that sort of rude behaviour. Thanks Dabbler (talk) 19:09, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No. I may have merely retaliated from being insulted. DAFMM.


 * It's the way of the world.


 * I start talk pages to open up the page for the article for other users (it's the first thing I do when I start a page) and also to pick up a few more edits. I put 'DAFMM' as it will not let me start the page (not that I know of) without something. Sometimes I just put a random word. 25th July