User talk:DASonnenfeld/Archive 6

Redirects
Hiya- just letting you know that I'm closing the other one you started on Renewable and Sustainable Energy Reviews since it's a redirect as well!Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for your guidance on this. Much appreciated! DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No biggie- it's actually a fairly common mistake. I wouldn't have known of the other page if I wasn't an AfD junkie.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Renewable and Sustainable Energy Reviews
Hi, No need to have this deleted. If you want to expand this into a full-sized article, (or even just a stub), you can just go ahead and do it... As for the other redirects, I would not waste much time on them. Redirects are cheap and unless they are disruptive (such as Barry Soetoro) do people pay much attention to them. Having "Organization & Environment (journal)" redirect to "Organization & Environment" does no harm and opening an XfD would probably not be successful anyway (given that it is a non-controversial redirect). --Randykitty (talk) 13:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Randykitty, Good suggestion, thank you! Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 13:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've written a quick stub, including a reference. Can still be fleshed out a bit, but have to get back to "real work" now :-) --Randykitty (talk) 14:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well done! Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 14:09, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

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Wikify has been deprecated
Hi DASonnenfeld! Just a friendly note that Wikify has been deprecated in favor of more specific templates. Therefore, I removed Wikify from International Institute for Sustainable Development. You may want to download the newest SVN snapshot of AWB, which uses Underlinked instead. Happy editing, and happy new year! GoingBatty (talk) 05:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks! Have updated my version of AWB, as you suggest. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:34, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of List of environmental laws by country for deletion
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Categories and lists
Hello DASonnenfeld. First I would like to comment that I am also interested in forestry, and practicing it is my main hobby, and since I am retired, I can say it is one of my main activities. Nevertheless the purpose of my talk is to comment on lists and categories. In doing so I take advantage of your fondness for lists. I have to confess you that I consider that it is rather a waste of resources to have two activities that to me seem to be quite equivalent, creating and maintaining lists and creating and maintaining categories. Since you sure know better than me the benefits for keeping both, I would appreciate your comments.--Auró (talk) 13:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Auró, Thanks for your note and question. The lists that I am most fond of are what I would describe as value-added lists: ones that go beyond simple listing and add meaningful content. A couple of examples of lists that go in this direction are the List of environmental periodicals and the List of agriculture ministries. Beyond that, I find lists also as helpful in providing a direction for future article development. The List of environmental laws by country is such a list to me. I've noticed your contributions to Wikipedia; for that I thank you! Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 14:02, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If I might butt in on the topic: Categories are organisational tools, made to group like articles together for navigation, sort of like subject headings in libraries. Lists are meant to be "value-added" resources in themselves as DA says; they should provide context, annotations, images, and data that a category grouping alone cannot.  The Interior  (Talk) 15:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you, it is clear now for me.--Auró (talk) 19:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * , DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied
On each talk page, although note that the images are on Commons, not on en Wiki. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 17:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Are you aware
that in the USA the artist of a piece of sculpture owns the copyright to photographs of his, or in this case, her work and that we on wikipedia are not really free to give it away? Mull it over. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 20:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Carptrash, No I was not aware of that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Can you point me to any sources on that? In this case, the artist, Anna Hyatt Huntington, has been deceased for 40 years, and the work in question is 10 years older than that. Including the image I added earlier today there are 13 sculptures included in the article on this artist. On the article's talk page, there are notices of a couple of images being deleted, but no substantive discussion of the issue you raise. Are you suggesting that they should all be removed for copyright reasons? Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 21:59, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Can we talk? I am not a big supporter of the US copyright system. I have never heard of an artist, or in this case, her heirs, complaining about a picture being used. However the law (my version of it) is that any work copyrighted after 1923 is still potentially covered. Any item created before something like 1978 (??) is copyrighted if the creator had it copyrighted and anything after 1978 is copyrighted period. Whether the artist did the paperwork or not. There is a lot of information about copyright on wikipedia, I'll see if I can find a link or two. In my case a British editor (in Britain they have Freedom of panorama, which means that if it is a public place it is NOT covered by copyright, but in the US, alas, no such thing). found me uploading sculpture and I've had maybe several hundred pictures removed over the years. Painful, to say the least. The Brits are very smug about all this and delight in ramming American laws down American throats. And who can blame them. Carptrash (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Check out the USA section here Freedom of panorama Carptrash (talk) 22:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hmm, interesting topic! That's what I like about Wikipedia, at multiple levels: I learn new things all the time. From a glance at your userpage it looks like you've been engaging on this issue for some time. I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 22:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I am not telling you what to do, just pointing out a few issues. Carptrash (talk) 22:55, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Got it, thank you. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 00:36, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello!
Thank you for the barnstar and the New Year's wishes. Hope you have a joy filled and prosperous 2013! Meclee (talk)

Copy and paste move
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 * Please see my reply at Talk:United Nations System. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 20:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Navlinks
Thanks for your interest in improving the RE article, but navboxes do not normally precede the lead image. Delphi234 (talk) 22:34, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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