User talk:DB/Archive

Hayden/Steamboat
No problem Dbinder; the website plays tricks on me also. Sox23 22:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

focus/hub thanks
Hey, just wanted to drop you a thank you note for modifying the airline template to separate out the secondary hub/focus city field.. —Cliffb 20:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Layout suggestion
Rather than using sections to break your talk page up into sections, could you consider using subpages. You could make each topic subpage a template that you would transclude into this page. That would let me use the + tab to add a new conversation. Will (Talk - contribs) 23:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No. DB (talk) 01:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

bmi
Re this edit - bmi (airline) is a stable article, and the MOS is a guideline, lets not stir up trouble where the article is fine as it is. Thanks/wangi 01:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you're probably right. I didn't really think it needed to be changed in the first place, but I figured the editor who came in to change it in the first place would come back and cause his/her own trouble DB (talk) 01:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've switched it back, stable's good :) /wangi 01:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's a guideline. The article is also impossible to read as-is. You can't tell where one sentence ends and the next one starts. There is a discussion about this on the article's Talk page; let's use it.--chris.lawson 02:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's really difficult. Those little dots called periods don't make it entirely clear if the sentence is actually ending. DB (talk) 03:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Central America?
Central America is not part of north america, though you are right in the flags, the caribbean & central america aren't part of the northamerican country polliticaly, there are many differences, Americans always think Central Americans are part of their continent, we are not north america, we now we aren't North Americans and object that to people who adds us as part of North America.

I'm central america, and everything I have read says we are 2 different continents. 201.218.69.252 21:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You are Central America? That's impressive. I'm not sure what you've read, but according to published texts that have any factual basis, Central America is part of North America. DB (talk) 04:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

787 Infobox (Continued)
I see that you chose to ignore my request and haven't brought this new addition up with wp:air at all. That really would be the most polite of your options, especially if anonymous users are going to claim that I'm "vandalizing" the article that I and several other users have been cooperating on for quite some time. We just had a survey as well as an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft that has arrived at not using infoboxes for aircraft information. If you worked with us, rather than parallel to us, we might be able to improve the article in a more effective manner. There really are a dozen or so reasons why tables in general are unwanted, particularly at the top of the page; they're in the survey linked from the talk page as well as on the talk page itself. Thank you in advance for cooperating with the project. -eric &#9992; 00:52, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Narita
It is just common sense that this is NOT a hub. They offer very little in the way of connections from NRT. Where is the Vietnam flight oritionating from. Use your head man, Narita is far far far from a hub for united.

Read this one. NRT may have been at one time, but it is not anymore. A hub is define loosely as more than 50 departures a day. NRT is not a hub Hubs

Codeshares
Hi. Hope you also sent to the similar "alert" to the other editor who also insistly revert the article. Fairness should be important even in the Cyberspace, right? And then I would be great if you also join the discussion about the topic. Thank you. KGF 23:10 08 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Fairness should be important for anyone according to the US education, shouldn't it? Hope you surely warn the exact same alert to the other editor, who broke the three-revert rule. By the way, would you revert the following sentence? Otherwise, it qualifies as a revert by you, Mr. Fairness. It should be 'valid' or you check it out by yourself.


 * JALWays (Bangkok, Denpasar, Guam, Honolulu, Saipan)

Thank you.KGF 00:35 08 May 2006 (UTC)

Halifax Stanfield International Airport
Hi - I noticed you reverted my page move this afternoon. FYI the airport was officially renamed to Halifax/Robert L. Stanfield International Airport at 2pm AST by Prime Minister Harper in a renaming ceremony at the main terminal. I did follow the naming convention for the Toronto Pearson International Airport page, so I'm curious as to why it was reverted? We're in the process of replacing links to the old HIA article. Plasma east 23:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The official name of the airport may have changed, but Wikipedia policy is to use common names in article titles. I doubt that people will start referring to the airport as "Halifax Stanfield International". The article itself should certainly have the new name, but the title should be by common use. However, if there is a consensus to move it to the new title, then that would be fine. Just put up a move request and see what others have to say. DB (talk) 05:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey DB if your going to accuse me of something have some proof. I'm not sure why because some user chose to register to post on the Halifax airport means that you feel the right to accuse another user. If you so strongly believe in the Halifax airport being called by its old name, fine. My life is not going change because of it and neither is yours, so relax. However I don't see how someone from the States can really know what a small airport in Canada is being called by locals. Here in Canada we don't accuse people of things without some proof.379hfx 22:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it's not that small, but that's beside the point. Where an editor is from is irrelevant. Being from Canada doesn't give you special privileges over the article; see WP:OWN. Finally suspicion is not the same as an accusation. Since I believe that you too may be a sockpuppet, then that would imply you're both being controlled by a third editor. DB (talk) 01:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Continental Airlines destinations
Why do you feel that "Continental flies to the most destinations of any US airline in Japan, Mexico, and the United Kingdom" "needs a citation"? Seems a bit silly considering that nearly every article about an US airline that flies to these countries has a destination list associated with it. Now I realize that these are not definitive lists but that hardly seems a justification for requiring a specific external citation. --BetaCentauri (talk) 01:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * There are many charter airlines whose destination lists are not on Wikipedia. Without a source, there's no confirmation that Continental really does serve the most in those countries. If it were changed to the most scheduled destinations, that should be alright. DB (talk) 01:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * In theory at least, you can charter for any route. The only real question is how much you're willing to pay.  So I'd assume nobody cares about charter vs. scheduled.  --BetaCentauri (talk) 07:24, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * But there are also charter carriers with regular sets of destinations. But as I mentioned, just change it to the most scheduled destinations and I don't think it would be disputed. DB (talk) 17:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I did. You know, I've never understood the concept of a "charter" airline offering "regular" destinations.  They fly wherever they get paid enough to and have someone willing to fly there, right?  --BetaCentauri (talk) 07:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Generally, but there are also "scheduled charters", such as North American Airlines and Monarch Airlines (the former necessitated a change in the Delta Air Lines article from saying that Delta is the only US carrier to fly to Africa to Delta is the only major US carrier). DB (talk) 15:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Second Opinion re LIM
Hi. I am just following the directions stated here. Did I misinterpret it? Cheers. /ɪlεktʃɹɪk bluː/ 19:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That is what the current guideline states, so no, you didn't misinterpret it. However, I think part of it should be changed. I just described the proposed change on the project talk page. DB (talk) 19:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Locations in Airline Club Section
Please see... WP:AIRLINES I have discussed as to the reason why I believe locations shall be included. I do remember a while back that a good amount of Wikipedians agreed to have them in instead of having a seperate page for the club, or the locations.--Golich17 02:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I need to locate it... that is if it still is existant. If I find it, i'll be sure to show you it.  If I am unable to locate it, I would hope we can reach some sort of new agreement.--Golich17 02:20, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that the clubs shouldn't have separate pages, but a list of locations seems pretty clearly to just be a directory. The link I added was directly to the locations page, so it's only one click to find that list. DB (talk) 02:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Tenerife airports
hi im new to this and i live on the island of tenerife and am attempting to improve the sites of where i live as lots of information is just wrong or is split between lots of sites,,,so please HELP me to improve things not just change back my hard work for only TECH reasons,also i cant find these wiggy lines on my spanish keyboard to sign these things.. ref TENERIFE NORTH AIRPORT as it is called by everyone,the people,the goverment,the owners,the airlines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by THORtenerife (talk • contribs).

Los Rodeos Airport
I joined the fray a little late. I was concentrating on cleanup, and missed the bigger picture. I wasn't aware that there were two forks. I agree that the articles require merging, as opposed to redirecting - Tiswas (t/c) 08:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

i spent over 1 hour adding new pics.add much more up to day information including the new terminal,and now its been reverted to a name NOT USED BY ANYONE incuding the airlines,the ownder,the people (inc me) who live here...AND ALL NEW INFO HAS BEEN LOST....CAN SOMONE OUT THERE please GIVE REF. TO THE NAME THAT PEOKLE KEEP WANTING TO USE,and can i have all my hard work back,,,

Singapore Changi Airport
I noticed that you put the state abbreviation next to Portland. Is this because there are many Portlands in the U.S.? My view is that having that one bracket stating the state there feels funny as the rest do not have one. It looks a bit weird. - ChangMay 05:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * While Portland, OR is much larger, there is a Portland, ME, and when referring to just "Portland", most people from the Northeastern US would assume it was referring to Maine. All the US airports with service to one of the Portlands have the disambiguation to refer to Maine or Oregon. DB (talk) 06:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I see. Thank you. - ChangMay 06:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Portland International Jetport Historical Service section?
I noticed you just removed the historical service section from PWM's article as per "a discussion." I was just wondering where this decision had been made? I know the section does not meet WP:Airports criteria for formatting, but I have found the information to be valid and a good addition to the article, so I have always let it stay. Could you please direct me towards the whatever discussion has gone on? Thanks. --KPWM_Spotter 19:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It wasn't really a WP:AIRPORTS formatting issue, since that's not really a valid reason to remove content. There was a discussion at SFO, SeaTac Airport, and the project talk. Although I suppose this situation is a little different, since it's just a basic timeline of airlines serving the airport. Those lists were extensive lists of every destination no longer served. This list is concise enough that it would cause less of a problem. If you add it back, I'll leave it. DB (talk) 19:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I'll add it back in now.   --KPWM_Spotter 23:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

removal of cite tags from Wikipedia:Airline destination lists: North America
I noticed you edited Wikipedia:Airline destination lists: North America with a comment of "removing cite tags since they do nothing except screw up the formatting". I am curious to find out exactly how they "screw up the formatting". Do you mean a visual problem on the page as displayed, or just that you didn't like how they like when editing the page source code? If it is only the latter, I would like to restore the cite tags since they allow links such as Wikipedia: Airline destination lists: North America. -- Zyxw 19:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * They cause the entire United States section to appear in italics. So, actually if a close tag is added to each one, that would probably work. I didn't really think of it before. DB (talk) 19:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Not sure how I missed that before, but after checking more closely I found it created italics in both Firefox and Opera, and IE6 was even worse with italics and blank lines between each airport. I have restored the cite tags, but this time they are closed with /> instead of > (same as using a closing tag but fewer characters). This change resolved the formatting issues when I checked the page in each of the previously mentioned browsers. -- Zyxw 00:20, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Continental Micronesia
Please read the latest on Talk:Continental Micronesia and re-evaluate your decision to revert my edit. HkCaGu 08:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Airline Hubs
Hey DB! I think all airlines have their hubs listed by size with the exception of American Airlines (which still has its hubs listed alphabetically). Could please change the hubs around and re-list them by size. Thanks! I'm not sure which user was doing that. But I have posted a discussion at WP:AIRLINES on this. Thanks! 74.183.173.237 (talk) 01:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It appears that based on the discussion, everyone else wanted it to be alphabetical. DB (talk) 06:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Airline destinations
I have nominated for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you.  MBisanz  talk 00:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

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