User talk:DBaba/Archive 4

Ta.
thank you for showing my comment on the Toben page some respect and for changing the link. I am unused to that kind of attitude here on wikipedia. Good work. (Off2riorob (talk) 19:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC))


 * Hey, glad to help!. Seemed a good idea to tighten up the refs, given that page attracts some dubious characters, heh. DBaba (talk) 19:43, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Look, this is getting nowhere.
The article is clearly biased towards China. It attempts to pin anything antagonistic on the Japanese- not just the crimes, or "atrocities", a word I note is used often -but the denial of the incident, the "historical revisionism", the skepticism... the word "Japanese" comes before every negative term.

On another note: if you have decided to use citations as basis for your argument, there should be more for a 96-kb article. just a little  insignificant  17:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * "Biased towards China"? While I'm very sensitive to the need to avoid using this massacre to blacken the word "Japanese", I don't believe your advancement of revisionist history is a morally intelligent means to that end.  And the Nanking Massacre is not "my argument", it is consensus history.  Its reality is not the claim of "Chinese nationalists", it is the conclusion of the mainstream of historiography on the subject.  Don't start with my on citations, when I saw and reverted a change you made that falsified the contents of at least one citation already. If you want citations, add a citation request, instead of falsifying the text. You have not exercised the discretion necessary when working on this article, and though I've not time to deal with it now, I will get around to it eventually if someone else does not. DBaba (talk) 18:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It was not my intention to "falsify the citation". I intended to rewrite the text in a more neutral manner. If I accidentally changed the bare meaning of the info, then that was an accident and it is my fault.

I am not "advancing revisionist history". If may not your POV in the article, it may be the consensus' POV, but it is still POV. As I see, it is not our responsibility to report the (quote) "horrors of Nanking" (unquote). It is our responsibility to report on the war crimes allegedly committed by the Japanese Army, and the denials and accusations made by both sides. just a little  insignificant  19:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, let's try this another way.
The article has issues with POV. I have attempted to rephrase the article with non-neutral language, which you have interpreted as POV-pushing. So, in what way should we introduce NPOV to the article? I look forward to your reply and assistance. just a little  insignificant  12:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem! I'm sorry we had the earlier troubles, and I'm looking forward to working with you too! just a little  insignificant  19:42, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Duh!
(went wrong the first time... I'll do it again)..... ;-) (that's better) Amandajm (talk) 03:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm dextlysitc, OK? Amandajm (talk) 04:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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