User talk:DCA Palms

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Your edits to Washington, D.C.
Hi. Thank you for the good faith improvements made to Washington, D.C.. However, the changes have been mostly reverted for the following reasons: If you have any sources with information that you believe is absolutely necessary for understanding D.C.'s climate, please make it known. Best, epicAdam (talk) 00:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) All new information must have sources that correspond with WP:CITE.
 * 2) Per WP:SUMMARY, the main article on Washington, D.C. provides only a summary of information and does not go into very many specifics, unless it is considered to be a "major" aspect of the city. Since hurricanes and noreasters are rare, they are only mentioned in passing. In our efforts to maintain Washington D.C.'s Featured Article status, the editors typically revert edits that would expand the information beyond what is required by WP:SUMMARY. Along these lines, storms that have hit D.C. are not mentioned because A) there is already a subpage on the subject (List of Maryland and Washington, D.C. hurricanes (1980–present)) and B) since we can't mention every storm, we mention none of them. It is also the reason "noreasters" aren't defined in detail, because there is already an article devoted to them, which users can read to find more information.
 * 3) The article is on Washington, D.C. itself, not the surrounding area. Therefore, any information about what happens in the suburbs or the nearby coastal areas is not included in this article.


 * I too am a native Washingtonian (born and raised); however, information still needs sources before it's put on the page. And while I, nor any other user, "own" the article, FA editors often have an interest in making sure the articles continue to maintain FA standards, which includes removing unsourced information. It is for that reason that I have removed the data until a source can be found. The only map I can find from the USDA shows D.C. in a 6b/7a zone; the Arbor Day foundation shows DC in zone 7, but is not any more specific. If there's another source where you got your data, please provide it. Remember, though, that sources used in FA articles must be held to a higher standard. Unfortunately, websites like "BackyardGardener.com" don't make the cut. Further, it would be helpful to provide a simple explanation with the data because stating that that DC is in zone 8a means absolutely nothing to 99.9% of users. Best, epicAdam (talk) 06:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not opposed to making changes entirely, as you can see that changes have been made to the article. My main concern is making sure any new information is sourced correctly. That's all. Until now, you had not provided a source for your data which is why it was consistently removed from the section. I will go ahead and readd the information, referencing the 2003 map you provided. Best, epicAdam (talk) 15:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Virginia
The Virginia article use to have this table, but then it was determine that these had to have both fahrenheit and celcius for Wikipedia, which made the table huge and was eventually moved to the subarticle Climate of Virginia, where I think it works better. So I hope you don't mind if I remove the table.--Patrick «» 23:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Generally, I'm using Minnesota as my template, since its a featured article.--Patrick «» 14:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Washington, D.C. is also a city, and follows different conventions. You're really proposing four tables, one for each of these somewhat randomly chosen cities. "ustravelweather.com" is not an official source for choosing these things. The Climate of Virginia article was branched off of the main article in 2004, and at various times text from the climate section in Virginia has been moved there when it gets bulky and over detailed, which is exactly what I consider this table to be. The section should be little more than a summary, and temperature is covered in summary style with "Seasonally, Virginia experiences extremes, from average lows of 26 °F (−3.3 °C) in January to average highs of 86 °F (30 °C) in July" which is source to UVA's climatology department. Does that make sense? Also, about the coal power, I'd prefer to build up more about energy than to remove the only bit we have.--Patrick «» 00:21, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I added my full thoughts on the table to the Virginia talk page and would be interested in having you involved.--Patrick «» 22:00, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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