User talk:DJ Clayworth/Archive7

RE: Police Officer
I think your making a mistake with that article, because "bobbies on the beat" is a generic term, well known within the English community. Personally, I think you are making a mistake. But if you insist that they should be just "bobbies", I will leave it that way, I dont want to upset you, and I could not see anything on the talk page either. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 16:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I just added comments to the talk page - sometimes you have to wait a minute or two for these things to appear. I added a number of references to indacate what "bobby on the beat" means. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I replied, please see the talk page. Thanks, Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 16:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Reference_desk/Humanities
I provided a link at Reference_desk/Humanities. That link used to be on the James Dobson page on Wikiquote, but it's not there any more. Corvus cornix talk  18:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * A quick search of the the Focus on the Family website finds the quote you are probably looking for. Note that it's not a quote by Dobson: he is quoting someone else. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * But he endorses it.  Corvus cornix  talk  19:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That does seem to be the case. Feel free to add it to the reference desk. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: Police
Thanks for seeing my point of view on that article, =]. I hope the difficulties on Police Officer, will not come between us, and future editing. Thanks, Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 21:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. In the case of the Police article you were absolutely right, and I have no hesitation in supporting you. I'm glad to see that disagreement doesn't mean emnity. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

billingham arms
if i remove the rates and book online link, is it acceptable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freeshack (talk • contribs) 19:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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Ruben Naranjo article deletion
Hi there, I just wanted to clarify the entry I was writing on Ruben Naranjo. 1) I know that I mistakenly made the article public before completing it and should have made sure everything was right first and tested it in the sandbox, if needed. 2) Yes, I took a substantial amount of text from the Guadalupe Cultural Arts Center website, which I mentioned at the end of the article. However, I was only using it as a starting point, was in the middle of adding citations when it was deleted, and was also in the midst of completely rewriting it and adding other sections and content from different (cited) sources.

I intend on continuing my work on this entry, and will comply with all Wikipedia guidelines as to article creation and source acknowledgement before making it public. I just wanted you to know that I was sincere in creating the article and not some vandal.

Thanks

Bfcuellar (talk) 20:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)bfcuellar Bfcuellar(talk


 * If you create an article that complies with Wikipedia rules (especially copyright) then it will not be deleted. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

James ben Ali Haggin
Her work is under her copyright but she can not copyright prior art


 * Reply at User talk:RichardBond. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering about another problem which is sometimes sections of text for some reason appearing as one long continuous line RichardBond (talk) 17:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That happens when you start the lines with a space, as you did above. If you do that Wikipedia interprets it to mean you are going to control linebreaking yourself. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Battle of the Bulge FAR opened
Hey, you apparently have 35 edits in the Battle of the Bulge article, which has just been placed through a featured article review. Your input, if any, would be quite welcomed! Thank you. JonCatalán(Talk) 20:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Article on Natalia Ivachkevitch deleted?
Hello DJ CLayworth! The article I posted about singer songwriter Natalia Ivachkevitch was deleted by you. How do I make sure I write it properly and not make it : (G11: Blatant advertising)? I thought I included plenty of facts and web links to interviews and featured on her work?

thank YOU! Appreciate your help.

Xomiaciok (talk) 13:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Xomiaciok. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Charles Peattie
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Why you delete the information about Grigiry Grabovoi?
In the article "Resirrection" you delete the information about his Teaching how to Resurrect people and to stay Immortal. You call it "fringe". Thousands of people all over the World believe it and there are 3 legal Churches of Grabovoy in the USA. Maybe I don't believe in other religions, which speak about Resurrection, so should I delete all the info about Christianity for example? I may think all the Bible is "fringe". Do you know how many times this book has been edited and re-translated? What's the authenticity of Bible? Grigory Grabovoi has numerous witnesses, whose evidences have been notarized. --Born Immortal (talk) 15:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Dear Sir,

In the World there are just a few religious or esoteric groups, which believe in the possibility of Resurrection in Physical Bodies. I think it's a must to give the information on the "Resurrection" page about all of them. Also note, that among these few, even fewer have a proof or have a Knowledge how everyone can Resurrect any other person. Grabovoi is a scientist, not only a psychic, so he documents all the cases. Also, in his Doctor's Dissertation, basing on mathematics and quantum physics, he has proved the possibility of restoration of any object. His Disertation is called: "Applied structures of the creative field of information". It was a discovery. I've given links to his books, and it's possible to find all the witnesses and notaries. Have you ever heard about something like that? And you think it doesn't deserve a listing? --Born Immortal (talk) 18:14, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Born Immortal. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

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Resurrection
I semi-protected Resurrection and blocked two IPs. Will make further warnings. Bearian (talk) 18:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * OK. I was hoping to get away without having to protect the page. But that's probably simplest in the long run. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I also semi-protected Immortality for the same reason. At least 3 of the vandals have been blocked by other admins. Bearian (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm watching them too. I think instant and permanent blocks are entirely appropriate for anyone who looks like the same vandal. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:10, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * They are very persistent. Crabat seems to be another one. -- Logical Premise Ergo? 21:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Are we having a stressful day?
While I certainly agree in some ways, this is too pointy to go without comment. -- Logical Premise Ergo? 18:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. Left over from page move vandalism. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Resurrection
Am I not innocent until proven guilty? Should not the data in the article remain until a decision is THEN reached in the sand box to remove it? I don't know anything about the sandbox, just the discussion or talk pages attached to the articles. I am not knowledgeable with a lot of stuff that goes in the Wiki or computer world. I do not know the useage of an Ipod Kazuba (talk) 02:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Kazuba DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

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NYT is About.com
Informative links that I added to 'Tyrannosaurus' and 'Creationism' were reportedly deleted because they were cited as coming from 'The New York Times', and lead to the About.com website. About.com is owned by the New York Times. Content published at About.com is part of New York Times online publications. Please revise this policy that removes About.com from the NYT online content.
 * Reply at User talk:75.179.137.166 DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

why block me editing my talk page?
you never did say why i could not remove the message of my block. it is my page i was still being blocked and i wanted to remove the warning. so why is that? then you blocked me for editing my own talk page. why? little bit of abuse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ford1206 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Talk pages should be a record of what was said by you and to you. This especially includes warnings about bad behaviour. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

this still should not stop me editing my page. this is my page, just like you changed my last edit back after i deleted it this should also not have had me bloacked from my own edit page. i will delete the last edit you did on page again and if it is changed b ack i will report it as vandalism. thank you  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ford1206 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The point being that if your talk page is supposed to be a record of what is said to you, deleting things from it is going against that. Amd if you won't stop removing warnings then you will be stopped. Also some of your edits were personal attacks, and they will be removed wherever they are found. Feel free to report me for vandalism if you like, but it won't make any difference. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

so there is nothing stating that the warning cant be removed then you are making you own rules. the talk page is mine, i can have anything on there as long as it is not attacking anyone it is alright. thank you.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ford1206 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Page move
I notice you are online. would you mind doing a page move for me Ben Barker (speedway rider) to Ben Barker. You help would be much appreciated. Waterden (talk) 14:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you Waterden (talk) 15:05, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Branding my edits as an "irrelevent joke"
Hi. Please do not undo my edits labelled with words such as obvious, irrelevent and joke. I am happy to discuss the content with you on the Talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWebbie (talk • contribs) 18:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at Talk:Winston Churchill. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:57, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Immortality
I do not know enough about this topic, but why did you erase that entire sentence? Bearian (talk) 17:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It's patently not true, as well as unreferenced. Christianity, for example, does not espouse 'dualism' and tends to class as heretics those who do. However it does espouse immortality, and refers to "resurrection bodies". DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

You should probably see this
A discussion involving your actions here. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 16:06, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Is wikipedia hacked
Quote taken from the talk Barack Obama, "Ah. I didn't realize you were alleging that this was a conspiracy, in which all the evidence has been changed so as to disagree with your version of things. That explains a lot. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)"
 * It's naive to believe a website such as wikipedia is not hacked. The latest trend in hacking is to be stealth. Not conspiracy, but caution and common sense for those who have been involved in server security such as myself.--PaulLowrance (talk) 16:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ...and removing a single sentence from a Wikipedia article without you noticing would be exactly the sort of thing these people would devote their skills and time to. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:50, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Obeying Wikipedia Rules
Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLANKING#Removal_of_comments.2C_warnings


 * Thanks for your comments. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

PENN Reels
Hi,

You deleted 2 of my articles today. I realize now (after reading through some of the rules and I was in violation of almost all of them) I am the web developer for that company as well as several other fishing companies, just so you know where I am coming from. I want to put information about these companies on this site because a.) there is none (except for Shakespeare Fishing tackle and that information is out of date) b.) The parent company Jarden has a page (out of date as well) and c.) I have access to a boatload of information about fishing that people would like to be able to see in this forum. So, you can either help me get used to posting on this site, or we can go through this again.

Let me remind you, Jarden is a multi-billion dollar company with more personnel and assets than you can shake a stick at. You will not hinder my project of getting CORRECT information about Jarden and its subsidiaries on Wikipedia for long. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbhumphrey (talk • contribs) 19:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Rbhumphrey. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Adams Way Page
Hey DJ CLayworth.

Can you tell me what I need to do to add notability to the Adams Way Page you deleted. I need that page up and running for research on area projects. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjanssen (talk • contribs) 16:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Bjanssen. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Man Law (book)
I saw you deleted this book under A7. I thought books were never eligible for speedy?  Gtstricky Talk or C 19:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Ignore all rules. The book is produced by a self-publishing organization. There is no possibility that it will be considered notable. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:04, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Tumble and tea cafe
Hi - I saw you just deleted this article, which I must have tagged in a previous incarnation as it's on my watchlist. Just a thought - as this is the fourth time it's been speedied, unless it's getting better each time, perhaps you should think about salting it? Cheers, Iain99Balderdash and piffle 19:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Xcentre.net
Hi, i am new here, just testing how to add an article and caused deletion. I just wanna listed my site in website directories founded. Not sure about the code used here. Any easier guide? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkwebsite (talk • contribs) 20:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Wkwebsite. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Mikagld
excuse me DJ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? why do you think you can just go delete my page on mick cochran???? i worked hard on that, FYI! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikagld (talk • contribs)
 * Reply at User talk:Mikagld. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Blah Blah Blah (Band)
They are a band with a record label and have been on the radio. I think they are significant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Headcr0b (talk • contribs) 20:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply at user talk:Headcr0b. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:09, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Anti-submarine boom net (Sydney Harbour WWII)
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 * I'm not sure what that notice is about. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Canada's name again
More drive-by editing in the Etymology section, and a big mess in the history section. My ability to be objective on this is compromised with this particular editor, but I've documented it so others can judge. Can't decide how serious this really is. --soulscanner (talk) 09:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Commented at Talk:Canada. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

terraskin
My article on terraskin was removed due to violations in advertising. I am looking to try and rewrite this article so that it fits the guidelines. Could you please refer to me the parts of the article that need reworking. I am only looking to post facts about this product and am in no way interested in promoting any business. I see many products in your database such as gortex, kleenex, tyvek, teflon, etc. Many of these seem more advertising based than what I was trying to post. So obviously I am very confused as to what is acceptable and what is not. Any help in leading me toward the proper direction would be a great help. Thank you ahead of time for your understanding. Bobbyksehgal (talk) 19:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * A few things:


 * 1) Try to write about the generic product, not the Terraskin proprietary product.
 * 2) Remove the FAQ section
 * 3) Don't use TM all over the place
 * 4) Make sure you read Neutral point of view and Spam.

DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

As I am trying to inform readers what the possible uses are and what this product could mean to the future of sustainable packaging as well as reducing global pollution and greenhouse gases, I feel I am on a slippery slope btwn advertising and informing. Taking out the FAQ and TM signs will be easy. I also realized I probably put too much comparison to regular paper, which can also be fixed. But could you expand a little more on #1 for me. I realize I am asking a lot of questions, and for that I apologize. Your help is most appreciated. Cheers! Bobbyksehgal (talk) 21:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * What I meant was, if there are other non-wood paper products out there, try writing an article that is applicable to all of them, not just to the specific product "Terraskin". Assuming there are other such products, they probably have a lot in common. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Kleenex, Teflon, Gore-Tex, and Tyvek are all products that have similar entities on the market, yet they do not refer to them at all in their wikipedia entries. I built my entry by studying these products whose entries were added, yet did not advertise. Paper made from stone is not exactly an everyday product. I found only two other types online. I figured speaking of these products would make readers see differences in the products by direct comparison. Which is blatant advertising. So I am more confused now. I think I will just try again and hope for the best. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbyksehgal (talk • contribs) 22:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * What I mean is that the entry on Kleenex is very short, talks largely about the company and trademark related items and links to facial tissue and bathroom tissue, the generic products. Those linked article contain most of the information about the products. If the Terraskin product is truly unique, then there isn't a generic product to write about. However it's also a matter of tone. The Kleenex article doesn't put Kleenex in a particularly good light, or explain why it is better then competing products. DJ Clayworth (talk) 22:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

1 RR and civility violations G2bambino
Please see entry on administrator board. I appreciated your response and commentary here and I put off the report because of it, noting your opinion. However, the reverts continued. G2 has definately violated several civility and 1 RR restrictions. -soulscanner (talk) 01:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleting
Hi, i noticed you deleted a page and gave your reasons due to copyright issues. I hope that does not preclude that the issue does not exist ? And if so, how the subject can be explored ? I was hoping to give a slim down version of the deleted page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.59.43 (talk) 18:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * There is no problem with creating an article on that subject that is not copied from elsewhere on the web. Please make sure you have read Neutral point of view and Reliable sources. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Thnaks, I will re-edit, the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.59.43 (talk) 18:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * He had tried getting permission from User Talk: Master of Puppets to create this article and instead he has received Warning with Heading Hi Again. Please see his own extremist history (which has recently being discussed at) at User Talk: Master of Puppets. This user was blocked several times earlier as well, Please see [his Biography his Biography. He has come up with this account after getting numerous warnings to his other two IPs, i.e. [[User Talk: 90.196.3.37|90.196.3.37]] and 90.196.3.246.--Singh6 (talk) 03:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Please re-consider your decision. Sikh Extremism means calling all Sikhs 'extremists'.--Singh6 (talk) 03:01, 9

November 2008 (UTC)

Hi DJ Clayworth, while I might agree the problem is more to do with style rather than content, like all faiths we have examples RSS or Islamophobia, Al Qaeda etc..which are on Wikipedia, Sikh Extremism DOES exist otherwise their wouldn't be so many sources and articles devoted to the matter (or the same number of death threats to match) I hope that is proof in itself that warrants the subject matter.

Obviously the same extremists will oppose this, but that would be cowing into mob rule as was the case of Behzti.

Also many of the references are from mainstream websites, like the BBC or CBC which are not POV sites, but are criticised by Sikh Extremists fro being just that, neither was the journalist Kim Bolan, who received death threats, for exposing Sikh fundamentalism.

A lot of Sikh extremists are free to post on here including Singh6

I would add that no admin has refused to have this article, I asked Jeff G and MOP

Hi, this article is not POV as suggested by User:Singh6, its simply dealing with the issues surrounding religious fundamentalism no one is suggesting all Sikhs are extremist, but some may well be- its s fact of life. I WIll be taking this to the discussion page) I will stress again, that bullying admins into removing subjects surrounding religious fundamentalism is not in the interest of free speech or Wikipedia.

NB I have informed other admins —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satanoid (talk • contribs) 12:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi there, regarding this dispute, hopefully the issues can be sorted out on the article's talk page. Your input would be much appreciated -- Flewis (talk) 13:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * See below. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Question on Islam portal
On the Islam side panel on left, it has the following links, do you not also consider that as equally wrong ?

Criticism · Islamophobia

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satanoid (talk • contribs) 07:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * My purpose for removing the link to Sikh extremism was not that I disagreed with the existence of such an article in principle, but that the article at that time was such a badly written and biased one that attention should not have been drawn to it. I believe that this is not longer the case and I will restore the link. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Sikh extremism
I have cleaned up the article, but I'm afraid that this version won't long last as Canadian gaddars would vandalize it: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sikh_extremism&oldid=250677918

Please keep a watch. Thank you. 59.164.100.127 (talk) 17:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You, User talk:59.164.100.127, an editor, who is publically calling opposition as "Canadian Gaddars" - means - "Canadian Traitors", is definitely an extremist person and your edits are definitely under watch. --Singh6 (talk) 19:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Everyone. Let's be clear that it is perfectly OK for an article on Sikh extremism to exist on Wikipedia, just as there is for other forms of extremism. I said this above and you will hardly find an admin to disagree with this. However the article must be neutral, factual and referenced. Let's not label individual editors, as 'extremist' or otherwise. An individual edit should be judged on whether it is neutral and factual. We don't discriminate against editors for their views, only for the quality of their edits.
 * Finally let's take everything we want to say about this article to the talk page. The discussion here is closed. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:06, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Threats
Which threats are you talking about? Can you please pinpoint the exact details? "AfD challenge" is not a threat. It's not against any policy. I am not threatening to kill anybody. Others want to delete an article to which I've contributed, and I'm fighting bravely against them. Best, Dave. 59.164.105.254 (talk) 17:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:59.164.105.254. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Sikh extremism
An article that you have been involved in editing, Sikh extremism, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Sikh extremism. Thank you. Singh6 (talk) 08:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Sir, I have restructured the article with correct modifications in the section names so that theose could be related with the information below them. Do you still think that we need create ths new article Sikh extremism? Most of the information has been reshuffled only.--Singh6 (talk) 03:17, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Since you voted in favour of keeping this article, it is only fair that you read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sikh_extremism#Wikipedia_being_used_as_a_propaganda_platform, which is an indepth analysis of the article. Thanks--Sikh-history (talk) 08:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

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Comments on article you were involved in AFD debate
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Sikh Extremism
Can you kindly advise on what to do about the vandalism on the above article ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sikh_extremism&action=edit&undoafter=257050994&undo=257051652

Names of journalists such as Terry Milewski have been altered and the article on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahraz_Darshan_Das_Jee has recently been deleted (incidentally he was assassinated in 1987 by Sikh extremists) I have been informed by other editors such as Enzuru about the eerie goings on by the pro-extremist sikhs and talk pages.

It needs to be reverted to an earlier as the POV tagging is becoming another side issue.

User roadahead claims the article is false despite the numerous research and news refereces including Globalsecurity which has also been erased from the article. Thank you Satanoid (talk) 14:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Satanoid, before you accuse others of vandalism, please note your own history of Vandalism:

I am not the primary author of this article and I luckily came across it while following an extremist editor i.e. author of this article, i.e. User Talk: satanoid. I had a chance to read Sikh extremism and the original article Khalistan movement and 'found it a distorted form of existing wikipedia article Khalistan movement only. This bad faith article has been created by User Talk: satanoid to satisfy his own extremism and spread hate WP:POV against Sikhism only. It is necessary to go through his history to understand his actual motive behind creating such hateful article which does not make any sence.
 * His initial Biography
 * Here is the list of all the IP addresses (registered to Easynet Ltd, BSkyB Broadband) which he has used so far:
 * Here he has mistakenly proved his link with one of above mentioned IP Addresses.
 * He was blocked several times because of his same hatefull acts but wikipedia could not find a permanent solution so far.
 * He is simply using his manipulation skills to spread baseless hate against a religion, which he hates, through this article. Remember, He can delete contents from an editor's talk page and 'can put the blame on the victim immediately afterwards. He, through Sikh extremism, is manipulating information from Khalistan movement in a similar way to spread hate WP:POV against Sikhism on Wikipedia. Khalistan movement was a political movement similar to Indian independence movement. Both of these came into existence because of major independence issues felt by certain citizens of their respective countries. --Irek Biernat (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Here he has mistakenly proved his link with one of above mentioned IP Addresses.
 * He was blocked several times because of his same hatefull acts but wikipedia could not find a permanent solution so far.
 * He is simply using his manipulation skills to spread baseless hate against a religion, which he hates, through this article. Remember, He can delete contents from an editor's talk page and 'can put the blame on the victim immediately afterwards. He, through Sikh extremism, is manipulating information from Khalistan movement in a similar way to spread hate WP:POV against Sikhism on Wikipedia. Khalistan movement was a political movement similar to Indian independence movement. Both of these came into existence because of major independence issues felt by certain citizens of their respective countries. --Irek Biernat (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Here he has mistakenly proved his link with one of above mentioned IP Addresses.
 * He was blocked several times because of his same hatefull acts but wikipedia could not find a permanent solution so far.
 * He is simply using his manipulation skills to spread baseless hate against a religion, which he hates, through this article. Remember, He can delete contents from an editor's talk page and 'can put the blame on the victim immediately afterwards. He, through Sikh extremism, is manipulating information from Khalistan movement in a similar way to spread hate WP:POV against Sikhism on Wikipedia. Khalistan movement was a political movement similar to Indian independence movement. Both of these came into existence because of major independence issues felt by certain citizens of their respective countries. --Irek Biernat (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Here he has mistakenly proved his link with one of above mentioned IP Addresses.
 * He was blocked several times because of his same hatefull acts but wikipedia could not find a permanent solution so far.
 * He is simply using his manipulation skills to spread baseless hate against a religion, which he hates, through this article. Remember, He can delete contents from an editor's talk page and 'can put the blame on the victim immediately afterwards. He, through Sikh extremism, is manipulating information from Khalistan movement in a similar way to spread hate WP:POV against Sikhism on Wikipedia. Khalistan movement was a political movement similar to Indian independence movement. Both of these came into existence because of major independence issues felt by certain citizens of their respective countries. --Irek Biernat (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * He is simply using his manipulation skills to spread baseless hate against a religion, which he hates, through this article. Remember, He can delete contents from an editor's talk page and 'can put the blame on the victim immediately afterwards. He, through Sikh extremism, is manipulating information from Khalistan movement in a similar way to spread hate WP:POV against Sikhism on Wikipedia. Khalistan movement was a political movement similar to Indian independence movement. Both of these came into existence because of major independence issues felt by certain citizens of their respective countries. --Irek Biernat (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Also note the current warnings you have recieved from other editors regarding your uncivil remarks.--Sikh-history (talk) 16:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Please do not use my talk page to argue with each other. I will have a look at this article again. Please remember however that adding a fact that you happen to believe is false is not vandalism. Nor is deleting a fact that you happen to think is true. If you have complaints about another user that you think an administrator can help with please go to Requests for administrator attention. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Love Systems
Hi DJ Clayworth,

I was working on a "company page" and I wanted to make sure several Wikipedia admins would approve the page. Whenever you have time, could you give me some pointers on how to improve the page? The page has to go through a DRV before it can get back up. Any feedback is much appreciated!

The page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Coaster7/Love_Systems

Thanks in advance. Coaster7 (talk) 01:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)