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Tech News: 2018-26
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg PAWS, our JupyterHub system, got an upgrade and a logo. Several bugs should be fixed.

Problems
 * When a link text was in italics or had other formatting you could sometimes not edit it in the visual editor. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Content translation users who translate between any two of Arabic, English, French, Japanese and Russian will be asked to be part of a research project. This is to create better tools for translating articles.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 June. It will be on all wikis from 28 June (calendar).

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Re "authors="
Hi. I was a little surprised to see your edit at IPCC[, where you collapsed several co-authors into an explicit "et al." Granted, the practice of citation there is pretty bad, but I think we should avoid making it worse. &diams; J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:45, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * This edit? I merely used the data that was there and added template details around it. If there were to have been fuller author data, I would certainly have retained it and used separate fields as usual. Thanks for finding the additional actual authors and listing them. DMacks (talk) 22:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

This Month in Education: June 2018
This Month in Education  Volume 4 | Issue 6 | June 2018

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Tech News: 2018-27
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Recent changes
 * The database for tags will be changed. This will happen on 2 July on French Wikipedia and 9 July on all other wikis. Please report if recent changes get slower or you can't save edits. This could especially affect editors who use the database on ToolForge.

Problems
 * Last week's MediaWiki update was rolled back. This was because of a database problem.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
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Teachers at Lady Eleanor Holles School
Hi, you have deleted all the former teachers because they don't satisfy WP:BIO, but my understanding is that is the criteria for whether someone merits their own article on wikipedia, not whether they deserve a brief mention in the text of another article. I'm concerned that you are setting the bar too high. I'm not particularly attached to the list, which I didn't add, but it is not unlike similar lists on other school pages, and I'd like to agree more appropriate criteria for whether a mention is merited or not. The original section heading did not include "Notable" - you added that.

For example, one of the former pupils removed by someone else, Pamela Schwerdt, does not have her own page in Wikipedia, but merited a full length obituary in the Telegraph. Should that be enough?

Rhanbury (talk) 15:21, 30 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Let's keep this at Talk:Lady Eleanor Holles School, where I responded. DMacks (talk) 20:07, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful interventions on this article, and I would very much appreciate your assistance again. Since Spintendo's edit removing all text except the last sentence of each paragraph in the history section, and a bunch of other stuff often without explanation (overall 2/3 of the entire article), including section headers, the article is now random and incoherent, and in a worse state than when I started my major rewrite. We have to bear in mind that ultimately Wikipedia is designed for readers who might find the articles interesting or useful, and I think the current version satisfies the letter of the policies whilst missing the spirit of the intention! As a conflicted editor (The headmistress is my wife, although I have no other connection with the school) I have been threatened with a topic ban if I replace any text that someone else has deleted, so I can't do anything to directly fix it. However YOU could, as a clearly neutral party. I am happy to do any preparatory work in any form and place that you would find convenient, up to and including a complete rebuild of the article in some form of sandbox, using whatever referencing style you think is most likely to stick, but someone else will need to do the actual edit on the article. Can you help? Happy for you to respond here, or my talk page, or the article talk page, as you think appropriate, but I didn't think this request was best placed on the article talk page. Rhanbury (talk) 06:06, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * , essentially what you are doing here is WP:CANVASSING, and that is out of policy. Asking Dmacks to return to the article is (sorta) within bounds, although you should invite all recent editors. However making a case for why he should in his talk page is clearly a policy violation. Please confine your arguments to the article's talk page. I don't object to Dmacks returning, just your methodology. John from Idegon (talk) 06:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What I am trying to do is find an editor (and a method) who will help me ADD high quality content to the article to improve it. I know you are not a fan of excessive verbosity, but it is not possible to create a perfect article merely by deleting existing text, and I can't believe you or anyone would consider the article in its current state to be high quality. Any guidance you can offer on how to do this (as opposed to how NOT to do it), especially as I am now effectively barred from adding anything that has ever been in the article previously, would be most gratefully received! For example, how would I invite all previous editors? A note on everyone's individual talk page?Rhanbury (talk) 07:54, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Incidentally I had already put an open request for help in the section entitled "Deletion of most of the history section" in the article talk page, but haven't yet received any response there. Rhanbury (talk) 07:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

DMacks
Hello, it's Von de Leorde. I made edits in the Wikipedia once again. Sir, if you think I made a mistake, then you can remove it. After that, I will not make anymore edits in that Wikipedia page. I know you are a very kind and caring person. If you want, you can remove the edits. No problem will occur. See you then, Sir. Bye 😊 Von de leorde (talk) 14:01, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-28
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Recent changes
 * WebM video files have smaller file size but still be of the same quality. Creating WebM files will take longer time.
 * The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. This was supposed to already have happened but was delayed. For most wikis this will happen on 9 July. For the rest it will happen on 16 July.
 * Octicons-tools.svg All wikis now use the Remex parsing library instead of Tidy. This could cause errors. You can help fix the errors.

Problems
 * When you rolled back an edit it could get both the  and   tags. This has been fixed.
 * Rollbacks from autopatrolled users were not marked as patrolled. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * When you edit a link in the visual editor there will be two separate buttons to change which page the link goes to (target) or its text (label).
 * On the mobile version you can find a link to an editor's contributions from their user page. Now this will work even if they haven't created a user page.
 * When you edit a discussion on the mobile version you sometimes get your signature automatically added. This will now not happen if you have already added a signature manually. This is to avoid double signatures.
 * Structured discussions toolbars will have more style options.
 * Octicons-tools.svg When you look at Wikimedia code in Gerrit there will be a new interface. It is on by default for new users. This is also true for developers. This is to make it easier to understand what is happening.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 July. It will be on all wikis from 12 July (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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Future changes
 * Today all administrators can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. There will be a new user group for editing CSS and JavaScript. Administrators will no longer automatically be able to do this. This is because it is a security risk when all administrator accounts can edit JavaScript even if they never plan to or do not know how it works. You can read more.
 * Page previews will be on by default for new accounts.

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Keep (send to commons)
Hi DMacks. When you !vote "Keep (send to commons)", could you please also perform the transfer? IME low-resolution images regularly get DR'd on Commons, so it'd be good to have someone who's already vouched for these images to keep an eye on them. Best,  F ASTILY   08:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello Professor DMacks
I want to be friends with you, but you need to stop making personal insults against me. Thanks. Brian Everlasting (talk) 00:27, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I comment solely on your edits. DMacks (talk) 13:13, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

To DMacks
OMG...Is it so? Am i really adding unsourced edits. I didn't knew about it. Okay if you want to stop adding unsourced edits, i will do it. I am sorry, i will not do this again. Sreeveen (talk) 04:49, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-29
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Recent changes
 * You can now use global preferences on Wikimedia wikis. You can set them on the global preferences page.
 * You can now see a new log of pages being created at Special:Log/create. It includes pages which are later deleted. It is now available on all Wikimedia wikis except Commons and Wikidata.
 * You can see how many pageviews a wiki had from specific countries. The |map|2-Year~2016060100~2018071100|~total Wikistats2 maps have now been updated.

Changes later this week
 * Your watchlist will show changes from the last seven days instead of three. If you have already set a length preference it will not change.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 18. It will be on all wikis from July 19 (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * Some articles have messages to readers about problems with the article. For example that it does not cite sources or might not be neutral. Readers do not see these messages on the mobile version. The developers now want to show them. You can read more and leave feedback.
 * You can use  to create search boxes for specific pages. For example to search the archives of a community discussion page. Instead of   you will see a text that explains which pages are being searched. You can read more and leave feedback.

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ABC Commercial
Thanks for catching the image and putting it back; no intention of removing that.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 07:06, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Swiss cheese model of cleanup from disruptive other editors:) DMacks (talk) 07:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018
Sir, regarding the reversion of edits in the article Meena Kumari, I just want to say that a reliable reference is added to each of them. Some of them were present even before a fellow editor removed them. I also mentioned this genuine concern in Meena Kumari's talk page before the above discussed edit was again removed, this time by you. I personally don't see any reason for this reversion. Vrishchik (talk) 05:58, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the talkpage note. You added it in the middle of a sentence that had a different cite, which does not support it. I re-added it and included the correct cite for it where it is written. DMacks (talk) 13:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-30
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * When you log in to your account you can choose to keep being logged in. This checkbox now works better than before on the mobile version for users without JavaScript.
 * Wikis that use Citoid can automatically generate citations for Swedish news sites. This only works in the visual editor. This now works for Swedish public service radio. More will come. Others could use this to add news sites in other languages in the future.
 * Editors can do max 90 edits per minute. This is new since last month. This does not affect bots or administrators.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Meetings
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Tech News: 2018-31
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The design on Special:Log has changed. It will change again soon. Developers are working on fixing problems.

Problems
 * Deployment of 1.32.0-wmf.13 has been partially delayed. All deployments have been resumed and successfully done after bug fixes.
 * Deployment of 1.32.0-wmf.14 has been partially delayed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * After a community discussion, a new group for users will be created. "Interface administrators" will be the only users allowed to edit interface pages like MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:Common.js. This is done to avoid technical issues and improve security. That change will be effective by the end of August 2018.

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This Month in Education: July 2018
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Tech News: 2018-32
<section begin="technews-2018-W32"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * Special:NewPages now has the OOUI look.

Problems
 * The MediaWiki version that was released two weeks ago was late to some Wikimedia wikis. This was because of bugs. It was on all wikis 30 July.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 August. It will be on all wikis from 9 August.

Meetings
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Stop Clickbait redirect
I have created redirects for StopClickbait and Stop Clickbait, which point to Clickbait; with two articles about them in third party reliable sources, there might not be enough for a standalone article, but there is enough for a short paragraph in the Clickbait article. Samboy (talk) 13:23, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable. Can't remember how I'm involved in this though. DMacks (talk) 14:54, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Michael Everson
What about the biographical information do you find doubtful? Be specific. -- Evertype·✆ 15:04, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Possibly every uncited claim about education and personal life, but I have not looked at every specific detail. That's not my job. Claims of education, family status, etc. are commonly used for CV-type articles and other PR purposes, attempting to use Wikipedia to portray a certain image other than what WP:SECONDARY supports (WP:NPOV concern). Even if not an overall PR concern, surely basic facts can be verified somewhere, right? As WP:BLP reminds us, "Biographies of living persons ("BLPs") must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy." and "No original research (NOR) We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources." In that context, it is included in the context of "contentious" material.


 * As the over-arching WP:V policy states "all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources." (full stop; ideas of doubt or npov are only mentioned as possible subcases). And inline citing (or at least after a sentence with a bunch of details) is probably the best (and maybe only) way to demonstrate that the policy is met. That is, it's an overall Citation needed situation, not Dubious on every one of the details. DMacks (talk) 15:14, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No. List them. Do you doubt that I was born in Norristown? What "proof" would satisfy you? What else is it that you doubt? Do you doubt that I was interested in Tolkien? That I first went to Ireland because Marija asked me to read a paper there? Because that is why I went. There's a link to the paper. There isn't a link to the conversation Marija and I had. This article, or that particular text certainly, has been there a long time. I'm not posting my diplomas. Or my birth certificate. Or my Irish naturalization certificate. What citations satisfy you? This stuff is nothing that anyone could get without actually asking me. By the way I moved from Portlaoise to Dundee in February 2018, and there's no proof of that. But it's true, and there wasn't any proof that I lived in Portlaoise either.
 * The Wikipedia does not require a citation for every sentence in every article. The things in the lede there are true. Do you doubt me? -- Evertype·✆ 15:50, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Educational claims are a common potential type of NPOV fluff in biographical articles. Surely, for example, there is a bio sketch of you on your company website or in some other biographical source that has your educational background? It's well established that you know multiple languages and have studied them extensively. And it's cited all over the second paragraph about later advances in your studies. Conversely, Are the exact details of your favorite childhood book that important? But if they were highlighted in, for example, the Dick Gordon interview, that could resolve the WP:V and UNDUE problems. DMacks (talk) 16:05, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * My favourite childhood book was Where the Wild Things Are. My career began because of Tolkien, and indeed I have published The Hobbit in five different translations. Yes, it is, in fact, relevant. It's also interesting. I'ts also available on io9, if you want to add that citation. The information you say is unsourced came from a page on "my company's" website (I am my company and the text there was of course written by me) and is already cited in note 4. You're complaining about something that was vetted in like 2006. There's a lot on this page that's well out of date, like the books I've published, and there's no mention of the fame (or infamy) that I have due to my involvement in emoji. There's been a number of interviews and articles out there about that. There's a good few things this article could use to improve it. I don't really see the issue with UNDUE though. (Do you care to edit the article? I can give you links and things. I realize you're acting in good faith.) -- Evertype·✆ 16:20, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm taking a few days semi-unplugged, will put this on my TODO right after... DMacks (talk) 13:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-33
<section begin="technews-2018-W33"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg CSS in templates can now be stored in a separate page on all wikis. This is called TemplateStyles. This is to make it easier to edit how templates look.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
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Future changes
 * The developers are planning more ways to block users. This could be blocking someone from just a page or a namespace. You can read more. You can leave feedback on the talk page.

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DMacks
Sir, I don't understand what you have written writing in my talk page. Plz define it Von de leorde (talk) 10:55, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Read. The. Blue. Links. DMacks (talk) 10:57, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

What is your problem
I cite a legitimate resource and study to improve the content and lesson the bias of the IAFF page and you keep removing it. What is your problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redbarron1957 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Adding WP:SYNTH and additional counter-point non-neutral content does not lessen bias, it makes the whole article even worse. WP:NPOV does not demand that we retain poor content or balance it 50/50 with other insinuations, but that--as you say--we actually solve the original problem. You can see that I have removed altogether some content that seemed promotional, and slapped a huge warning at the top that the article overall is generally problematic. There is probably copyright violation too. DMacks (talk) 04:06, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate your latest additions and agree that they more accurately portray the page. As we've found out, just because it is from the institutions website doesn't mean it is true or non-promotional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redbarron1957 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Ambox warning pn.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on International Association of Fire Fighters. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; Do not edit war even if you believe you are right. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redbarron1957 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-34
<section begin="technews-2018-W34"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 August. It will be on all wikis from 23 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 22 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The 2018 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Legacy JavaScript global variables have been deprecated for seven years. They will soon be removed from all wikis. Gadgets and scripts that use them will stop working. You can test your community's gadgets on "group0" wikis. For example Test Wikipedia or mediawiki.org. The legacy JavaScript global variables are already disabled there. You can read the migration guide to fix old scripts.

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Santhosh Mathevan
I thought Santosh Mathevan was an RS since he works for The News Today. But did you revert his edits because they border on COI? That I agree is one rule he violated. -- <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  15:20, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I was going solely with the COI refspam (most of the links were to his own website also). I did not look any further than that. DMacks (talk) 15:25, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hi! I see that you are an admin. I want to report a vandal IP who has recently vandalised the page iron oxide cycle and other page(s) from where I have not chased him.--5.2.200.163 (talk) 13:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Update: I see he has been blocked.--5.2.200.163 (talk) 13:42, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, was off-line for a few hours. Thanks for tracking it and glad that it is solved. DMacks (talk) 13:52, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks!
Thanks re: this. Didn't know that! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:30, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome (and thanks generally for cleaning up so many film articles!) It's fairly new. I think there's a bot or AWB gradually removing them (and especially fixed number of columns). DMacks (talk) 20:25, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Boranes
I think that I screwed something up yesterday, cut and pasted when I should have "moved" something. Moving to a pre-owned title requires admin help, which is a nuisance. I just forgot the rules, and the mess that ensues when things are pasted around. If there is some repair work needed, let me know. --Smokefoot (talk) 22:07, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * All fixed. I am one of several chemists-who-are-admins on en and/or commons so if you ever need help just ping. DMacks (talk) 03:10, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-35
<section begin="technews-2018-W35"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now see moved paragraphs in diffs in the mobile view. It also works on all languages in the desktop view.
 * Bureaucrats on all Wikimedia wikis can now remove the interface admin user right.

Problems
 * Some diffs show lines in the wrong order. The developers are working on fixing it.

Changes later this week
 * The message you see when you thank a user will change. This is to make it easier to understand.
 * AWB will stop adding  in the edit summary.  Instead it will add a tag that says.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says . An example is   which is now.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 August. It will be on all wikis from 30 August (calendar).

Meetings Future changes
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 August at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.

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Boranes
Please be more constructive. Some kind of redirect is needed as the article title is generic. There need to links to the individual compounds which may not be mentioned in the article body. Petergans (talk) 17:05, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * What you were doing is well outside the guideline and intent of hatnotes, but instead hits multiple ideas of Hatnote. Write some actual content like "Examples include..." (maybe in the section on different structural classes or nomenclature?) or a list of them in the SeeAlso. Or observe that they are all in the "Binary compounds of hydrogen" navbox at the bottom of the article. DMacks (talk) 05:18, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to say that this is not a constructive response to a real issue. The article is about a class of compounds, not the individual members of the class. Boranes are a special case because the stoichiometry of members of the class does not follow one rule as do hydrocarbons. That is why there should be a link to the article on each individual member of the class for which an individual page exists, not just a mention in the body of the text. It is further complicated by the fact that if a user searches for "borane" he will be directed to the article borane. Is the general issue something that should be handled by using a disambiguation page? Petergans (talk) 10:01, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi! Dmacks! It's Roj S..
I looked at your account a lot and liked to be an administrator. ST means Secret Thought. It is just the name it is more useful if you join it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roj2006 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 31 August 2018(UTC)
 * see Becoming an administrator. Sorry, I have no interest in being in your club regardless. DMacks (talk) 17:13, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

This Month in Education: August 2018
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To DMacks!
I know you are an admin but, could you please unblock my friends account: User:Roj Serbest. HE CAN'T EVEN EDIT HIS TALK PAGE! Will you unblock it? Humanroj (talk) 10:52, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:VANDALISM is not welcome. I 100% support the block. Tell your friend to go find some other website as a playground. We have serious work to do here. DMacks (talk) 15:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-36
<section begin="technews-2018-W36"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There is a new user right for users who can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. Before this all admins could edit CSS and JavaScript. This was a security risk. This group is called interface administrators. Administrators can delete user CSS and JavaScript pages.
 * There will be an A/B test on the Wikipedia mobile website. It starts this week. It tests how we show templates that show information about an article. The test will last two weeks.
 * You can now use different CSS rules for different skins when you edit templates. This is because of TemplateStyles.
 * in ORES is now called.
 * When you get a new message on your talk page you get a yellow message in the toolbar. The preference to show or not show this has been removed.

Problems
 * UploadWizard had problems with campaigns. Users could not upload files. This has now been fixed.
 * You can get a notification when a link is made to a page you created. This has not worked since June. It was fixed last week.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 September. It will be on all wikis from 6 September (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department will work on advanced mobile editing. You can read more about this and other things they plan to work on over the next year. You can also see the presentation.
 * The RelatedSites extension will be removed from Wikivoyage.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Unused projects on the Wikimedia Cloud virtual private server will be removed. This will happen in October. Projects can be marked if they are being used.

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Culture of Baltimore
I took a look at sourcing some of the culture of Baltimore stuff and decided it was too late in the evening, but boy does it need some work. Thanks for the tweaks. I stopped for some pit beef on Saturday (a Lions Club stand by the road) and realized that it had no article. You're right about the headers - clearly I need to wrap it up for the evening.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * No worries:) DMacks (talk) 04:28, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

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I want to create own ID and edit
Hi!

I want to create my own ID edit wikipedia, contribute in it. Add few photos as well. Kindly respond me here only what will make you allow me to make new ID from this IP only. I assure it would be used by myself. You blocked my previous ID twice due to few of my social media team. Now, we stop sharing our internet to them. my id was @YogeshGosaviFilmmaker now i dont have id. (103.51.153.82 (talk) 16:21, 8 September 2018 (UTC))


 * Sockpuppet, block evasion. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 16:25, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * We won't be needing your services. It is very clear that you are only here to promote your own corporate projects and abuse other of our account and use policies as well. DMacks (talk) 20:41, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Pyrimidine dimers
I probably had a drawing in that article that you found wanting. You also might check Spore photoproduct lyase. If you can point to a good source, I will go back and redo these graphics.--Smokefoot (talk) 13:54, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-37
<section begin="technews-2018-W37"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * When you added or edited a template with the visual editor the input boxes were very big. This has been fixed. The input boxes will now be smaller until you click on them. Then they will change size to fit the text.

Problems
 * Some diffs showed lines in the wrong order. This was fixed last week.
 * Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed.
 * did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed.
 * is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with  would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected.
 * When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this.

Changes later this week
 * Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
 * Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 Septmber at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The developers work on making the wikis work better on mobile phones. There is a list of common problems when making content easier to read in the mobile view. You can add things to the page and ask others to help.

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Request for deletion
I just need to request you that please delete two pages - User talk:Ram The Editor and User talk:Misser Boss as the reason of criteria G6. We don't need those pages any more. Thank you. 171.79.30.97 (talk) 17:47, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * as out of policy and repeatedly declined previously. I don't even care whose sock you are. DMacks (talk) 17:59, 17 September 2018 (UTC)