User talk:DSimp2

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 * welcome section inserted, after multiple deletion notices (below) received

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Hello, DSimp2. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you have an external relationship with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Institute for Continuous Improvement in Public Services, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. KSFT talk 22:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Institute for Continuous Improvement in Public Services


A tag has been placed on Institute for Continuous Improvement in Public Services, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Proposed deletion of Institute for Continuous Improvement in Public Services


The article Institute for Continuous Improvement in Public Services has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Unsourced, and I can't find anything online to indicate it passes WP:ORG.

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Nomination of Institute for Continuous Improvement in Public Services for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Institute for Continuous Improvement in Public Services is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:30, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

focus of effort
The welcome text above is a canned message, but I am a real person, a volunteer editor, and I do welcome you to Wikipedia. It's hard to get started in Wikipedia nowadays. I am sorry your reception so far has mostly been in efforts by others to delete your contributed article on Institute for Continuous Improvement in Public Services. Those efforts seem unduly harsh to me, when the article is brand new and can be developed...concerns could have been indicated by adding various tags to the article, instead, and allowing for refinement/development. And certainly that is not very welcoming. For what it's worth, I will participate in the Articles for Deletion (AfD) discussion, which is the open, full discussion of the notability of a topic (in this case the ICiPs organization). You are welcome to participate there too, but what would help most is if you could provide coverage of ICiPs in external sources. Has there been local or national newspaper-, TV show-, magazine-coverage of any kind? The sources do not need to be online. Even notices about ICiPs in lean management newsletters or public sector mailing lists or other industry sources would help. You could provide info about these at the AfD or by editing into the article.

Also, pay attention but don't worry too much about the Conflict of Interest (COI) policy here. Described at wp:COI, it puts some restrictions in place, but it explicitly does allow a person associated with an organization to create and/or develop an article about the organization. The main COI terms can be complied with easily: if you have an association it should be disclosed (e.g. by your commenting here or at the article's Talk page), and if there is conflict in editing of the article then the COI editor should defer to non-associated editors. I do assume you are associated with the organization based on your chosen account name, and that is perfectly fine. There has been no conflict in editing and I would expect none. Some Wikipedia editors choose to disclose their real life names, many do not. If you do have "an association with the organization" you can just say that you do, in general terms without any more personal detail.

A good way to start in Wikipedia is to make small contributions in areas not important to you, to practice and see how it is done. (And note of course a person with COI on one article has no COI with respect to the 1 million or so other articles in Wikipedia.)

I will "watchlist" here so probably I will see any response by you here, but feel free to contact me by message at my Talk page if I don't reply here fairly promptly. cheers, -- do ncr  am  12:33, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Following up... hi again. I did participate at the Articles For Deletion (AfD) process, esp. trying to find independent sources covering ICiPs, without great success.  If you have off-line or on-line documents that cover ICiPs, now is the time to come forth with them!  Otherwise it is likely that the AfD will conclude "Delete".


 * My impression from afar is that ICiPs is a new organization focused on a worthy cause (supporting continuous improvement in delivery of public services). And that it was intended/expected to be U.K.-focused, but since the mission and goals and all were stated in very general non-exclusive terms, it has attracted wider attention than expected.  And that it is having some success:  organizing the 2014 conference, opening a degree program with Buckingham University, trying various ways to build culture of CI such as case-sharing and site visits and achieving promotion/awareness of CI.  And there is some recognition from outside sources such as the pending Lean Management journal award/recognition, but not much record yet of accomplishments documented to change practice in any one public service agency, and it is early to be claiming that this organisation is well-established.  So, my impression is that it is early for there to be a Wikipedia article about it...there's not much to say separate from information provided directly from ICiPs, which is forward-looking, aspirational.


 * I expect the organisation wishes to get exposure in Wikipedia possibly for itself but also more generally to educate and to promote about CI in the public sector (i.e. to carry out some of what ICiPs is wanting to do). And there is little about that in Wikipedia currently.  So, I wonder if you could help develop coverage, by cooperating in developing a more general article: Continuous improvement in the public sector (currently a redlink) or at a similar title.  In my opinion that is an obviously worthy article topic, with multiple reliable references about it being a separate topic.  For example:

this reference: a review article about research on continuous improvement in the public sector. I imagine that ICiPs is itself figuring out what is "known" already and what gaps there are vs. what is needed, so that ICiPs' own future research can address gaps. It would be reasonable for a general article to list organisations including ICiPs that are addressing the area, and perhaps describe what they are doing, by the way. Coverage within that articled would advance the likelihood that coverage about ICiPs could be split out into a separate article sometime in the future. I may start a draft article at Draft:Continuous improvement in the public sector and I invite you to contribute. sincerely, -- do ncr  am  22:30, 29 June 2015 (UTC)