User talk:DTVGuy

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Hello, DTVGuy, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for Advanced Digital Broadcast. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Muhandes (talk) 13:36, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
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Advanced Digital Broadcast
I It's very well that you want to update the article. But please, does this version look even remotely right to you? Does it look like other Wikipedia articles? You can't expect to barge in, destroy an article, and have other editors correct the damage after you. Do things in small steps. Learn from reading guidelines (WP:LEAD, WP:V and many more). Use the preview button. Just as a quick tip - prose is preferred to bullet lists. Don't use lists unless you absolutely have to or the thing is a numeric list (e.g. tracks in an album). I'd be happy to help. --Muhandes (talk) 13:40, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I repeat my request. Please stop destroying the article and start cooperating on improving it. --Muhandes (talk) 09:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

There have been major changes at the company - hence the volume of changes required to ensure the Wiki is accurate and up-to-date. I've tried doing it as a single update, and piecemeal. There is no attempt to destroy the article - merely to reflect the changes to the focus, products and services and present it in the clearest possible way. I'd welcome any suggestions on how to do this.


 * I'm willing to help. I'll keep an eye on the article, I suggest you make smaller changes, and note my (and any other editors') comments. Here are some notes for the edits you've made:


 * Use the preview button with any edit you make. There is no way you could miss the wrongness of this edit. Try to read it and you'll see what I mean.
 * If you link within wikipedia, use wikilinks, not external links. connected home, not | connected home
 * Verifiability is the most important thing in an encyclopedia. You can't say something like "the company has sold more than 30 million consumer premise devices worldwide, has deployed over 6 million open-standard ... and has made over 200 patent applications. " without a reliable source.
 * "the company has sold ...", use proper English. The letter "t" should be capitalized.
 * ™ should never be added
 * Don't link to disambiguation pages - check every link you add. IP, terrestrial, head end, gateway should be avoided. Link to the proper pages instead.
 * Not everything belongs in the lead paragraph, see WP:LEAD. Most of what you added belongs in the "Products" section.

Best regards --Muhandes (talk) 11:44, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I've looked over the changes to the entry again, sought additional references, looked at ways to make the entry read better - and will start to work on it again later today/tomorrow. If you look at the old and new versions, not much of the detail has changed, but some sentences have been re-worded to accommodate new information and the structure has been changed a little [again to make it easier to read]. Could I ask, rather than simply taking down the updates, that you flag where you think there needs to be more evidence - so I can address it? All of the details can be evidenced, and I'm happy to address concerns within 24-48 hours - if not, then I'm happy to remove until sufficient evidence can be found to support the claim.

Equally, with stylistic changes, I'm happy to discuss/address any concerns you have to ensure it adheres to 'house style'.

The objective of updating the Wiki is to make it accurate. In it's current/old state, it isn't. Thanks in advance, DTVGuy

I've made some changes addressing your concerns, wherever possible... I've also trimmed the customer list - I've had to retype the list and reenter the references.
 * I moved the customer list to its own section and trimmed the sources a bit. Sources in the products section still need much trimming, and much of it belongs in the customers section. --Muhandes (talk) 08:44, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't want to make too many changes at once... will look at the product sources in the next few days.

August 2011
Welcome back. I'm sorry, but again, I assume good faith, but such edits just cannot be accepted. Let me start from the beginning and just list the multitude of problems:
 * changing 30 models to 40 models - unsourced.
 * changing 700 employees - unsourced.
 * again changing 30 to 40. The source you provided does not mention that number.
 * replace a well formed sentence "service provider customers include Eurocom..." with source for each customers with the malformed "Service provider customers Telecom Italia, Magyar Telekom, Telecom Austria". The first two lacking sources.
 * at the end you added a source for the claim "ADB supplies set-top boxes under its i-CAN brand, or distributor's brands". First, the source you provided was malformed (it had an asterisk at the beginning). Further, the source does not verify this fact.

I'm sorry, but this cannot be accepted. If you don't know how to edit Wikipedia, and are unwilling to learn, ask for help. I know I personally am willing to assist. State what you want to achieve, and what your reliable sources are, and we can do the edit. --Muhandes (talk) 08:54, 18 August 2011 (UTC)